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...kind of...well, different...I suppose if they are that much against having babies, I suppose it is best that they be sterilized...
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Meet the women who won't have babies - because they're not eco friendlyBy NATASHA COURTENAY-SMITH and MORAG TURNER - More by this author » Last updated at 22:05pm on 21st November 2007 Had Toni Vernelli gone ahead with her pregnancy ten years ago, she would know at first hand what it is like to cradle her own baby, to have a pair of innocent eyes gazing up at her with unconditional love, to feel a little hand slipping into hers - and a voice calling her Mummy. But the very thought makes her shudder with horror. Because when Toni terminated her pregnancy, she did so in the firm belief she was helping to save the planet.
Desperate measures: Toni Vernelli was steralised at age 27 to reduce her carbon footprint Incredibly, so determined was she that the terrible "mistake" of pregnancy should never happen again, that she begged the doctor who performed the abortion to sterilise her at the same time.
He refused, but Toni - who works for an environmental charity - "relentlessly hunted down a doctor who would perform the irreversible surgery. Finally, eight years ago, Toni got her way. At the age of 27 this young woman at the height of her reproductive years was sterilised to "protect the planet". Incredibly, instead of mourning the loss of a family that never was, her boyfriend (now husband) presented her with a congratulations card. While some might think it strange to celebrate the reversal of nature and denial of motherhood, Toni relishes her decision with an almost religious zeal. "Having children is selfish. It's all about maintaining your genetic line at the expense of the planet," says Toni, 35. "Every person who is born uses more food, more water, more land, more fossil fuels, more trees and produces more rubbish, more pollution, more greenhouse gases, and adds to the problem of over-population." While most parents view their children as the ultimate miracle of nature, Toni seems to see them as a sinister threat to the future. It's an extreme stance which one might imagine is born from an unhappy childhood or an upbringing among parents who share similar, strong beliefs. But nothing in Toni's safe, middle- class upbringing gave any clues as to the views which would shape her adult life. The eldest of three daughters, she enjoyed a loving, close-knit family life. |
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| ......oh my goodness.....what is this world coming to? |
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| Yipes! No one who gets an abortion doesn't have to deal with that choice eventually, and the emotional part too....trust me. I had one when I was 20 (nine years ago), and I never really slowed down long enough, or allowed my mind to grasp the reality of what I had done (taken a life). Besides, you convince yourself it is just a piece of tissue, and doctors aren't allowed to tell you differently or show you a pic of what the baby looks like. So I never dealt with, realized and was healed of what I had done (and mourned) til I was pregnant with Josiah, some two years ago! But it will catch up to her. I know it. And she is soooooooo messed up and deceived. She needs a Road to Damascus experience. |
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November 23, 2007 at 11:12pm |
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| We need to pray for this young woman. |
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Mensajera, my thoughts exactly.
Lara, what a story you have! What a testimony you can share. Thanks for sharing here. |
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| Amen Denise...and others like her. The full article talks of many who have done the same... |
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"Every person who is born uses more food, more water, more land, more fossil fuels, more trees and produces more rubbish, more pollution, more greenhouse gases, and adds to the problem of over-population."
....and among all those persons born, some will find cures for diseases, discover carbon-less fuels, find ways to feed and clothe the poor, and all will manifest the glory of God simply by existing in His image.
If all the Christians have more children and raise them in the fear and admonition of the Lord, in two generations we can win the culture war by default. Voice?!?!!? Let's get working on it! |
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I am sorry, I think I am on the wrong floor |
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| I agree with Denise and am praying for Toni as I type. Christ can touch any heart. My hard Heart used to produce enough greenhouse gasses for 3 or 4 sinners. |
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the problem of over population? I wonder if there was any complaint about her opportunity to a part of that? I wonder how much the abortion rate would decline if the mother had to also terminate her life with the baby.
I agree this woman needs prayer but so did Hitler. But we need to be sure we watch and pray...and make sure we watch. As far left as this seems, craziness has a ay of trickling in when good people keep silent |
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I think it is important to see the words they use. Twice in teh article it states that it is "immoral" to have children. Here is one of them:
"I didn't like having a termination, but it would have been immoral to give birth to a child that I felt strongly would only be a burden to the world. "
...as opposed to it being immoral to take the life of someone who may have had the cure to AIDS or been the scientist who would have solved the environmental problems.
What I find ironic, similar to what Patrick noted, is that this logic, taken to an extreme implies we should all commit suicide and the planet would be better off. Talk about strange logic...
Also, note that Toni and her husband allow themselves a long haul jet trip a year, because "that isn't too much of a carbon footprint". I wonder who sets the standard? Why is, say, having a dog better than having a child?
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| Carbon footprint. If we are all precious in God's sight that convinces me. |
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Hmm, isn't a carbon footprint all that's left after Godzilla walks by?
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| Carbon footprint...strange terminology, isn't it? My question still is, who says how big of a footprint is acceptable? Wouldn't the same logic lead one to conclude that killing off the sick and elderly would be a good thing? If we eliminate their carbon footprint, that leaves more for us. If so, who is to say "us" is better? I can't find consistent logic here that makes sense, and I honestly have tried. |
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November 27, 2007 at 8:25am |
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| Mark it on your calanders folks. I'm speechless on this one ! |
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