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I will offend you
||November 27, 2007|2088 reads
 

To add a comment to "I will offend you"
Randy Fry
November 27, 2007
I'm sure people are repaying me with blessing when I deserve evil or insult.  I strive to do the same!
Mike n Laura
November 27, 2007
Thanks Lara. Are you really offended? .....I know you're kidding! And don't even compare me to Jesus. The folks that were offended by him were actually offended by God. Whoa! But when people are offended by me, I think they actually have a right to be. That is why I need your GRACE!!

Randy, you need grace too? I find that hard to believe. You seem perfectly likable to me! Who could be offended at the MyChurch hymn guy?
Sue
November 27, 2007
Mike,  This post goes hand in hand with a post I have brewing in my draft box.  You'll see.....
Mike n Laura
November 27, 2007
Sue, you seem offended by that....
Sue
November 27, 2007
Not one bit!  I am saying that the Lord must be trying to say something here.  Or were you just kidding?  Were you offended?  lol
Mike n Laura
November 27, 2007
HAHAA see that Sue, I just did it to you! lol Yes, I was kidding. DARN my dry humor strikes again!
zachary snow
November 27, 2007
I';m definitely offended by all o fthisd! So much that I can neither type nor spell :-)
Sue
November 27, 2007
That sounds like Norm's humor :)  I was thinking you should know me better than that by now.  If you offend me I say, "You offended me dude!"   
Sue
November 27, 2007

Zach, There is a new spell chekcer dude, chekc it out!

Mike n Laura
November 27, 2007
Norm is a funny guy. But sometimes you have to know him to know he's pulling your leg. Like me!

Zach, by golly it sure is good to see you! I am rather offended that we haven't enjoyed more of your company around here! Ahhh, but that's ok. Life goes through cycles, you'll be back when this one's done. Hey, what's with that bad typing anyway?
Sue
November 27, 2007
It took me about 3 months to "get" Norm. 
Mike n Laura
November 27, 2007
hehe, he and I had a run in when we first "met", it was over his name. lol
Sue
November 27, 2007
I know.  It is hard to tell he is kidding until you know him.  I thought he was serious for the longest time.
dave buckingham
November 27, 2007
I don't know whether to be offended or to laugh, I think I'll give myself a break and laugh.  Good post and BTW I'm originally from Cleveland so your not gonna see me rooting for the Ravens any time soon.
rosie burns
November 28, 2007
MIKE I'VE KNOWN YOU HOW LONG AND YOU ARE JUST NOW GETTING AROUND TO AN APOLOGY FOR OFFENDING ME...WELL IT'S ABOUT TIME.....LOL.....
ALWAYS LOVE YOUR BLOGS........
Forgiven
November 28, 2007
I am laughing!!! And that is a good thing. Great Blog...and oh so true.

Thanks so much!

Cathy
Patrick Hazard
November 28, 2007
I personally think Sue is bordering on blog copyright infringement and frankly that offends me
Patrick Hazard
November 28, 2007
who is frankly?
Ian Grant Spong
November 28, 2007
I know someone who was told by some legalist jerk one time that he must have a problem because he was always apologizing. Actually, the other guy never apologized. I highly respect people who do apologize. We all screw up all the time. None of us gets it perfect.
Pastor Elam
November 28, 2007

 The first mention of the fruits of the spirit is love. It would be nice if we all agreed with each other but we just won't. If I can't love people then how can I say I love God. Love allows us to disagree but still commands us to love.

119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.


Normally Norm
November 28, 2007

This little birdy (whom I hope isn't offended by me calling him little (or a birdy)) told me there were comments about me here.  Frankly is related to Surely, btw.

I hate political correctness.  Not that I'm interested in personally offending someone, but because all too often these things completely impede conversation.  As someone who doesn't naturally strike up conversations with strangers, this plays a big part (along with "am I butting in where I shouldn't?" and "Do I really care to talk about the weather, again?").  It's one of those oddball things in a nation where moral relativism is becoming the flavor of the day.  We can do whatever we want (supposedly) without offending as long as we don't say whatever we want.

In the end it's all a ploy to distract us from what is important.  It's a wedge to divide us.  So if I offend anyone, I'll apologize now (and probably later), but at some point honest communication needs to happen.

I'm feeling like I'm rambling.  And I've been in hiding on here.  Actually it's more that I've been really busy elsewhere.

Cheers...

NOOOooorm

(still works better with monospace type) 

mstovall2003
November 28, 2007

I'm offended and you know what? That's a good thing.  It gives me a chance to see if I am really doing as my Father asked me to do or is the flesh reallllly trying it's darndest to win.  Constant battle but it keeps me in the word..

Good blog Mike

Mike n Laura
November 28, 2007
Marcella, you could never offend anyone! (well actually, that goes against what I blogged, so I'll just say I forgive you in advance! haha)

Norm, great to hear from ya! A little birdy...? Interesting, sounds like you have a Dr Doolittle thing going on there. :-)  BTW, great point about honest communication! Hard to resolve things with the fear hanging over that someone's holding back... (it's not me, I promise!)

Awesome verse you cited, Pastor Elam! Man, how relevant!

Grant, that tells me I've earned your respect! lol  And if you aren't sure yet, then let me just say I'm sorry (again). Really, pride doesn't hinder me here in the least!

Rosie, sorry it took so long! (sorry about that too, lol)

Cathy, when you don't know whether to laugh or cry, choose laughter! In light of eternity, the problems of this world will be worth laughing at as we look in the rearview mirror!

Patrick, copyrights on what? And be careful, you might offend Sue!

Pastor Tim, good call! One of my favorite parables is the one about the unmerciful servant, b/c it teaches such a powerful lesson on forgiveness. We need to be continually prepared to forgive, don't we? This is only possible with a very close walk with God.

Dave, I have forgiven my sister in law's new husband for not being a Ravens fan, b/c he has a good excuse - her ex- loves everything Ravens, and he is not a nice fellow at all.... So I forgive you! :-)  (And I'm glad you chose to laugh!)
Cheryl
November 28, 2007
My dry humor get me in trouble sometimes too Mike... but that little offended word can sure cause a lot of problems, mostly from miscommunication.... thanks for the reminder on how we all can offend at times (sometimes you don't even know it) and that makes Forgiveness on our part even more important.
Mike n Laura
November 28, 2007

Mary, that darn flesh is so easily offended!! But funny thing is, it's the flesh that's most offensive too! Gotta love the irony...


Mike n Laura
November 28, 2007
Ahh, hello Cheryl! Another one with dry humor! Well then, you ought to understand some of the inexplicable comments I post. If it doesn't make sense, and you feel as though you should be offended, just laugh! Or at least smile.... (and then forgive me)
Mike n Laura
November 28, 2007
RANDOM BIBLE POST: From 1 Corinthians 13:5,

Love is not easily angered (NIV) or provoked (KJV).

Amen?
Becky Sutherland
November 28, 2007

Amen.

Being such a toddler in my Christian walk, I sometimes can be easily angered (offended) and do not always demonstrate tru love the way we are taught in God's word.


So yeah, I will probably offend my friends too. Please don't take it personal, I am still growing and learning how to Love like Jesus. But then again here are some versus that I have to fall back on when I think about being offended or offensive.

12:18 There is that speaketh like the piercings of a sword: but the tongue of the wise [is] health.


I have actually had to weed out some of my friends because they are too easily offended at anything, even if it is said out of love by myself and others trying to help them get out of a bad spot in their anger. Everything is a fight with them, then I have to remember this verse.

23:9 Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.

But I often find that when I find it offensive it is probably true or a sore spot that I need to work on anyway and it was probably God that put in your mind to say it to me. You were just being the humble and obiedient servant by saying something that may be semi-offensive to me. I learned a valuable lesson in AA that has always stuck with me in life, church life, and even here on mychurch, it is "take what you need and leave the rest".


Overall these are what I truly need to remember in addition to 1 Corinthians 13:5 and the teachings of Jesus.

15:1 A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.

8:6 Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips [shall be] right things.


Thanks so much Mike, You really hit on something I needed to do a short and quick self check and bible search on. Sorry I wrote so much in a comment on YOUR blog.

Richard
November 28, 2007
Good post Mike! I thought this was gonna be about bad breath or body odor but you did reall good with this one. I aint offended one bit... yet. lol
john cummins
November 28, 2007

This is a great blog! 

You say,

"Actually, shouldn’t we always be prepared for people to offend us?

Actually, IF I am offended, I am not loving. 1Cor. 13 says that love is not easily offended. As you mentinoned we do offend others but that is often because they are somehow expecting to be offended. IOW, they have very thin, unloving, skins. Love demands that we develop not easily offended natures. Yes, this is supernatural but the way of love is the better way.

Certain groups, like Bill Gothard's, spend much of their time on avoiding offending people. They waste years trying to figure out what might offend people. I've seen these groups get into homeschooling roller skating events, for example, and strip any good music right out of the play list (so people are not offended and fall into sin). The music that results is actually worse than the worst Laurence Welk music as a result. It ends up that not even Christian music is played at these events.

The result of constantly trying not to offend is that our lives can become totally dull. There is a stripping down of all culture (possibly) as a result. How much better would it be to look for the best most enriching music for whatever the event and let the chips fall where they may rather than worry constantly about imagined offenses given to those that are simply unloving due to their easily offended thin skins????

Maturity is to love and that demands NOT being easily offended. 

DeboraJ
November 28, 2007

Good word Mike.  I needed that reminder.  :)

Mike n Laura
November 28, 2007
Hi Francine! We do not hear from you enough around here, was it something I said? :-)   Thank you for the amen!  (and I have indeed noticed that I'm not consuming anywhere near the amount of Tums I used to...)

Becky, no prob on the length, that's not bad at all. Great comment! Great scriptures! And I'm sure that as you grow in maturity and depth in your relationship with God, you'll gradually see less and less to be offended about! (And more and more to pray about...) Don't worry about offending me, you can't b/c I won't let you!

Rich, thanks! And uh, in this case, I'm glad to fall short of your initial expectations! hehe  And dude, you've been far too scarce around here too!

recon, thank you. Excellent points about offense. In fact I'm still digesting your comment, and may come back later with a thought.
Mike n Laura
November 28, 2007
Thanks Debora!!
Glenn
November 28, 2007
Mike, once again your offensiveness is perfect.  Thanks

Becky wrote "But I often find that when I find it offensive it is probably true or a sore spot that I need to work on anyway and it was probably God that put in your mind to say it to me. "  I agree here Becky, we sometimes get offended because God is putting his finger on a sore spot that He wants to heal.  Thanks for pointing that out to us.
peace
MulletPreacher
November 28, 2007

Don't start nothin, won't be nothin. That's how i used to live. But then I realized that if I take matters in my own hands and try to get folks back for makin me mad then I have stolen from God. Cause God says vengence belongs to Him.

However, you haint never offended me Mike. And if you do I will just tell you and we'll work it out man to man. Cause I know you always got good intentions. Love ya man. God bless.

Mike n Laura
November 28, 2007
Glenn, did you just thank me for being offensive? I'm not sure how I feel about that... lol

Shannon, all I can say is, thank you for the forgiveness in advance!!

Great comment, BillyRay! Honestly, I never thought of it that way. "Vengeance is mine" means it's God's place to parse judgment for wrongs (not ours), but it also means (as you said) that judgment (vengeance) belongs to him! Thanks for dropping in!
Brad Peglow
November 28, 2007
Jesus said some pretty offensive things at times. But to those who had ears to hear it was not offensive at all. Before we pick up stones or stone people with our words, let's ask ourselves, is there some truth from this that I need to accept today?
Steve Kistler
November 28, 2007
I'm happy to pre-forgive you now.  But I might find it a bit harder when the time comes.  Forgiveness is easy to talk about and hard to practice. 
Lourdes Morales
November 28, 2007
You haven't offended me yet.  So thank you for the warning. lol lol lol

Mike, as long as we live with people we are going to be offended by them and we will offend as well.  We are trying to be like Christ, but we are not in heaven yet.  So let's give ourself a huge break ;-)  As long as we repent and confess, I think we'll be ok.

SO, I am sending you a preemtive forgiveness.  I hope you do the same for me.  PLEASE!!!!!!   ;-)
Jess Stuart
November 28, 2007

Is it just me, or is Norm's cat offensive ... to nature ... and the rest of creation ...

That furry blob just kinda gives me the jibblies.....

 

Just kidding of course =D 

Deb Rockwell
November 28, 2007
Mike another great blog...I am offended easily.  I have always been too sensitive, and take things much too seriously, and get hurt easily, even when a person doesn't intend to hurt.  I have had to learn through the years, to not take everything so personally...it is not all about me!  lol  And I am sure that I have offended others, although I have not meant to.  Once it is pointed out to me, I go out of my way to make things right.  Great subject!
Becky Sutherland
November 28, 2007
Yes Mike this is a great blog, mind if I send my over sensitive teenage girls here to read? HA. OOOPS I should probably ask for forgiveness already for that one.
Patrick Hazard
November 28, 2007
I find the fact that so much happens during the day offensive.  I leave and there are a handful of comments, I return and there are dozens. 

That surely offends me.  If you find him, beat him.

Frankly, that still offends me no matter what you say
Mike n Laura
November 28, 2007
Yes Patrick, I too find Frankly very offensive!

Deb, I too go way out of my way to be considerate. But invariably, I still manage to mess up. Fortunately I don't find it too hard to apologize.
Gene Boecker
November 28, 2007
Well, Mike, I'm offended that I wasn't offended.  I see the title and was sooooo looking forward to see what words of wit and wisdom Mike will use to edge a critical thinking conversation that challenges the minds of even the. . . .  what was I saying????  Oh yeh,, great blog!
lol

Peace!
Mike n Laura
November 28, 2007
Gene, you crazy offbeat man, you're too much! Really, you're the only person on MyChurch that I really don't think I could ever offend. Yeah, I think that may be true!

Interesting, Arlene. Some offenses cause more than mere indignation, there's real hurt involved. But does expecting that I'll probably say something ignorant to you at some point lessen the degree to which I hurt you when that eventuality comes about? Cuz' I can be really hurtful, even though I don't mean it. And Satan can come along and tell you that I did mean it (lying, of course). Geez, I feel bad, and I haven't even done anything yet.

Becky, forgiven!

Ah Lourdes, I see you understand well the need for grace, BIG TIME! I'll bet it's really hard to offend you. Preemptive forgiveness granted, and thank you for yours!
Gene Boecker
November 28, 2007
Careful, Mike. I used your name in vain on Jess's blog. . . .
Mike n Laura
November 28, 2007
GENE, HOW COULD YOU???  (I'll go see now.....)
dave buckingham
November 28, 2007
OK I was reading Norm's BLOG hit a link and here I am,  Now I gotta go see what Genes talkin about on Jesse Blog.  I feel like I'm playin shutes antd ladders.
Tory Evans
November 29, 2007
You've never offended me, just so you know! 
shane bowyer
November 29, 2007
I heard someone say, "I get offended in public restrooms but I still go."  Good point I think.  So why do we often consider others less valuable than a public restroom by avoiding them when they offend us?  Thanks for the offensive blog.
Mike n Laura
November 29, 2007
Great to know, Tory! Thanks for comforting me.

lol, you're welcome Shane!

Cathy - big mean "hairy - eye - ball"  lady? I'm almost afraid to ask.
Gene Boecker
November 29, 2007
I think Cathy means taht she's an optometrist for people with werewolf syndrome.  ;)
Forgiven
November 29, 2007
shane, that was a great thought.
C.
Heather Davis
November 29, 2007

It's ok!!  If you offend me for any bad reason, take ease in knowing that you've probably offended God even more.

 

...Wait.  That's not something to take ease about, is it? :P 

Minister Of Poetry
November 29, 2007
How can I not forive when it will be me that needs forgiveness ongoing!!! God bless you. Stu.
Patrick Hazard
November 29, 2007
:P is extrememly offensive Chris...I am now at 321 of my 70 times 7
Joey     R
November 29, 2007

I remember.... once you thought you called me a brother.  I couldn't sleep for weeks.   
I posted it on my profile that I was sister, not a brother but the damage was done...  Now look at me

Joey     R
November 29, 2007
I LOVE YA'LL.  I couldn't just let that go.   HA!!!!!
Gene Boecker
November 29, 2007
Still, Joey. . .  we love the hat - brother OR sister.  lol
Mike n Laura
November 30, 2007
Oh Joey...... I'm so sorry.... I tried to apologize before......can you ever forgive me?

Love ya SISTER! Such lovely brown hair and all! lol
1wing
November 30, 2007
I am laughing so hard I am crying. We all fall short of the glory of GOD my new friend. I am human and I make many mistakes so being offended is probably something we will share at some point. Love and Blessings ~1wing
Gene Boecker
December 01, 2007
Funny, short and sweet, Mike. 
Just like you like it.
Mike n Laura
December 01, 2007
Yes Gene, Jess has taught this old dog a new trick. :-)

1wing... Laughter is good medicine. I'm glad that you see the humor beneath the message!
Gene Boecker
December 01, 2007
Woof!
(I hope that wasn't offensive)
lol
Michelle Orr
December 01, 2007

I love the idea of pre-forgiveness! That is great marital advice as well. We should start each day asking our spouse forgiveness for anything we have done or will do that day! (This is from an old joke, can't remember where it came from, sorry..lol)

Mike n Laura
December 02, 2007
Michelle, that is an excellent application of pre-forgiveness!
Job Anbalagan
December 03, 2007
Pastor Mike,

You have said, "Actually, shouldn’t we always be prepared for people to offend us? We are living in a sea of sin and selfishness after all! Even our believer friends are mired in the flesh wars, and we should expect them to get caught up in the old nature from time to time. We may be good, but we all slip".

I entirely agree with you.  I should be prepared to be offended especially by the truth. In fact I love those who offend me.
Mike n Laura
December 03, 2007
Job, it is clear that you stand for Christ, and I love you for that!!! And I promise that any forgiveness you ever merit from me has already been granted, my friend!

btw, I'm sorry but I'm not a pastor  :-)
Birdie Courtright
December 08, 2007

You made me laugh! I love this, it's so true!

Mike n Laura
December 08, 2007
Thanks Birdie. And Paul, just give me more time...

I'm afraid it's happened again. True to my promise, I'm pretty sure I've offended a sister in the Lord, by gently pointing out what to me (and probably most Christians in her life) are sinful choices she is making. Could I just ignore these things, smile and by being silent, approve of behavior that is contrary to clear words of scripture? How would God judge me then? But then, it isn't necessarily my place to convict of sin, either. I've begged her forgiveness, and pray she accepts.

I think you people underestimate me! (Forgive me now, trust me it's easier for all of us....)
Gene Boecker
December 08, 2007
And THAT is the irony, isn't it Mike.  We do trust you.  We trust you to be honest and forthright in Grace and mercy, with the conviction of the Holy Spirit enlightened by God's Word.

Maybe "offend" isn't the right word as much as "irritate" or "disturb" would be.  But I dare say that Jesus did the same thing to the Pharisees.  You're in good company, man.
Joey     R
December 11, 2007

Offend.... you don't offend me, really.  You make me laugh.  So here is that early gift that you need.  (again).

Mike n Laura
December 11, 2007
Joey....now THAT is offensive!
Gene Boecker
December 11, 2007
Two-da-loo, Mike!
Mike n Laura
December 11, 2007
honestly Gene!
Gene Boecker
December 11, 2007
Now, Mike.  you thought I was kidding with that expression.
Nope!

Click here to get the straight poop!
Forgiven
December 11, 2007
This has to be the blog with the best longevity! It is a lighthearted approach to the fact that we must forgive seventy times seven... Our Amazing Saviour knew the cost to save us from ourselves...and He died because He loved us so! AMAZING LOVE such as this...WOW!! We can love this way...through Him! There are so many hurting people in the world with painful pasts and presents. I know of church group that had a crusade to get people that were backslidden to come back to The Lord. What an idea! It was aimed specifically for the wanderer.

This is a great blog!

Cathy
Gene Boecker
December 11, 2007
Oh, excuse me Cathy & Mike.  I hope I didn't offend with that last comment.
Mike n Laura
December 11, 2007
Straight "poop"? Gene, what language! Kids read this stuff! Thanks to you my blog just went from a "G" rating to "PG".
 
Cathy, you might be right about the longevity. If this keeps up there will be 70x7 comments! .....I really appreciate your comment, such beautiful sentiments!! :-)
Forgiven
December 12, 2007
Gene,
doodee aka doody is much more suitable! ((laugh!!))

Cathy
Mike n Laura
December 12, 2007
Thanks for the alternatives, Cathy! Believe me, the LAST thing I wanted to do with this blog was offend people with poopy language!! 
Becky Sutherland
March 25, 2008

Lord help me... I offend people daily... that is all I can say about that.

Valarie
June 22, 2008
Oh Mike...you know, usually it is my husband that offends folks...not me....but of late, I guess the tables are turning. I'm not saying that I don't do anything wrong...because I do...and I have....but I still try to love and speak truth in love. Man...does that get me into trouble! Thanks for pointing me to your blog. Good one!
Mike n Laura
June 22, 2008
Thanks for the comment, Val. I will respond on your blog, where I posted the link!
Brother Todd
June 22, 2008
That is why we are to let our moderation be known to all men.  We are to forebear with one another.  No body is perfect.  The Lord showed this to me one day when I was offended by someone.  How can you offend a dead man?  If I am dead to the flesh/self, I can't be offended.
Mike n Laura
June 22, 2008
Amen Todd. "Bear with one another." It ain't supposed to be easy all the time!