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This blog is just my personal opinion so please don't be offended. I am only writing this to ask for advise from all my great sisters and brothers in Christ.
Last year when my husband and I had to send one of our daughter away to live else where so we could come back together as husband and wife before we could be parents we sought God out with a vengence. See I feel again to drugs and alchohol while my soldier, my hero, my husband, aka the nerd or Tuvoc.. sorry that is for my trekies went to Iraq to fight for our country. That was a bad time for me if you remember reading my testimony as of September we had to go through another spiritual awakening from our amazing daddy Father in Heaven... and it almost destroyed our marriage let alone our family and my life due to fear, satan, and sin. But then God restored us to brand new.
Well that October I landed a job which was much needed after going twenty thousand in credit card debt. WHO knew you could get that much credit on line and Ebay is another addiction I have. Oh and during a DUI I managed to wreck my new car so that added to the debt. I had to file for bankrupcy alone, not with my husband but my own and go back to the corporate world...
Well I needed to get a job to help pay for my DUI and for the bankrupcy and other huge debt for my 3 month binge. So I landed a good job after being out of work for about a year and a half and still having scars on my wrists.. over 200 I was into cutting too. Oh we also didn't have renters in my husbands house in Oklahoma City and Christmas was coming up, we had another child come to live with us, and we had to pay extra child support for the one child to live in Atlanta with a step aunt and be home school cause she hated to attend school and almost flunked her freshman year and mom refused to let her stay at her house... how can a mother do that to a child... i don't know. Financially, we weren't broke.. we were shattered and had 3 teens still at the house.
Anyway the job was an hour and a half drive one way, which was awesome cause I just bought the bible on CD... and was dying to hear the entire bible.
Finally to fasting.. The month of December we brought our child daughter back to live with us and I was trying to forgive and not throw her sins of the past year back in her face and be so judgemental so I went on a spiritual fast for the month of December.
I only drank water or Diet Dew, or sometimes an occasional diet energy drink and I was able to REALLY hear the bible and GOD in my prayers and silence. I HAD never been silent to listen in all my life.
Anyway It was the best spiritual catepolt I had ever experienced.. It lasted for a total of 21 days and I was so blessed, and so was my family as you know how the saying goes mullet preacher... if MOMMA AINT HAPPY NO-ONE IS I know you know what I mean Mullet by your Thanksgiving message and the look or my husband in the fetal position. I am woman hear me roar.
I stumbled on this website on fasting and I hope you understand why I am writing this..
My ultimate question for you is, when fasting does it just come to you out of the grace of God? or is it a spiritual discipline you just have to develope? See I have been trying to fast for 8 months now and to no avail I have failed and ended up eating McDonalds and a bag of jellybeans or mike n ikes for lunch. SHAMEFUL...
I look forward to your comments.
Bless you and good night |
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Ragland |
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November 30, 2007 at 7:01pm |
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Hi Becky, I went through the website you have linked here on fasting. Fasting is ofcourse for spiritual discipline and also for seeking God's help in coming out of our sins and problems. When we do this prayerfully, we get freedom from bondage. Ragland |
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| Thanks Ragland... got any verses you want to share. Maybe I should go read the bible. |
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First of all, another thing in common; I use to cut too. Yehaw. Gee, the last time I fasted, it was such a shock to my system, I ended up puking my guts out and missing a day of work. You probably know this, but to do a long (or even not that long) fast, it goes better by cutting out the meat, and then other stuff gradually; totally shunning beef. Fasting is really a discipline too. I always found it difficult; so does my husband, and he tries to fast quite regularly, where I don't. I am stubborn; when I decide to do it for so many days, that's it. But I have only fasted maybe (spiritual fasting that is) 4 times since I have been saved? Average of once a year; pretty pathetic. It is difficult, but it is denying our hungry MacDonald's (love the combo #7 supersize, no tomato, apple juice and 4 packets of McChicken sauce on the side to make the fattening fries even more fatty) flesh. It is a sacrifice. I have heard of God giving ppl the grace, but it has not happened to me yet; even when God called me into fasting. Drink juice if you have to; you stay hungry, but you don't die or pass out. lol |
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HI Becky! I must be honest, I've never fasted, unless you count the fact that I rarely eat breakfast or lunch as fasting, then I do it almost every day. I know far more about the grace of God than I know about fasting. Since I am uninitiated in the world of fasting I will refrain from commenting on it. In other words, I've just wasted a lot of space on your precious blog with my irrelevant comment! Sorry, have I offended you yet? :-) |
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God sacrificed his only Son for me.... so I could live.
Whats a few Mike n Ikes...
No really I can do a radical one it is just really difficult. I try to do at least three a year but... then again
my girls want to do a 3 day juice fast and I don't have a problem with that... my husband is hypoglycemic and nope... doesn't work... if he could just fast Diet pepsi or beer.. He could do it... but nope. He does better to try and fast carbs on the atkins diet |
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Lara hey... yeah cutting took away the pain in my heart of falling to sin again. and my previous comment was directed back at you.
Mike you will never offend me... even if you are trying to repremend me like Pastor Ami had to do when I had my mental breakdown and wanted to become 7 of 9. new friends this is an inside joke |
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| HEY Mike you could have given me a stinking star for wasting space on my blog... LOL |
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oops :-)
There. Actually tried to give you 3, but it seems I've lost the touch. (An inside joke of my own, ha!) (Sue would know...) |
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| Becky I found your blog interesting on fasting and like Mike it is something I have never felt called to do... I have friends that fast and for awhile I thought it strange that I didn't feel called to do so. Sorry, I've taken up this space and really can't even contribute to your questions. Thanks for the post I will read the responses with personal interest. |
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| Opps, sorry again Becky here's your star |
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November 30, 2007 at 7:33pm |
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| While I was a child I have seen my mother fast every Friday night. She will be in Prayer, sing songs and fast during dinner. She has told me she does this when she want answers to her prayers from God. I have fasted during several occasions and I have experienced what my mother told me. The more I want to fast, the more the enemy works to keep me away from fasting. I get charged spiritually when I fast and pray. Once I fasted during the lent - skip from all meats, stay away from eating on all fridays till good friday and pray while fasting. The experience is a great spiritual blessing. The problem is that its very difficult. I think God is giving me a message that I should fast. |
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November 30, 2007 at 7:34pm |
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| AWESOME BLOG! |
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Mike you know the golden star rule... star and you will be starred..
Cheryl you obviously know what Mike doesn't oops hope I didn't offend him.
CYN thanks
Ragland thanks that is beautiful.. hey you got a verse yet? I know of it but I can't quote...
here they are
the pharasis they would throw dirt on and dress in rags so they would be like the people
or when you fast you tell no one as to not think too highly of yourself
Somebody help a sister out
Brother Ben where are you when I need you... sister Chrishyhana.. aka Heather.
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November 30, 2007 at 8:02pm |
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Becky, I can only think of what Jesus told us (His disciples) : Mat 6:16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may be seen of men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have received their reward. |
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| Ragland thanks you are blessed with knowledge. |
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November 30, 2007 at 9:15pm |
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This was an interesting blog. I have fasted a few times and generally for short periods of time. I have found that they are difficult to do at least for the first few days but I also know that I have to work on my discipline in order to maintain the fast. It helps to stay in the WORD as much as possible and stay in prayer. One of my spiritual mentors told me that when you fast the thing you are fasting on should be the time you are in prayer, for instance..if I cut out breakfast for my fast then during my breakfast time I should use that time in prayer. This made a lot of sense to me. It doesnt always make it easier heehee!
Thanks for the comment on my blog I am so glad you enjoyed it. Love and Blessings, ~1wing |
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November 30, 2007 at 9:57pm |
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Hey, Becky! I didn't go to the link you posted on fasting, (no time at the moment), so, sorry if anything I write is repetetive of what's already on that. I fast probably every month or so. Sometimes for a day, sometimes for weeks. Those are complete fasts: no food of any kind, just water or plain green tea. There are other times I fast for extended lengths of times, and for those I fast from specific things and foods. Right now I am on a no-sugar fast and have been since the spring. (I have a friend who is in need of physical healing and I am fasting from sugar until she gets it. It has been prophesied repeatedly that she will be physically healed in this lifetime, and I'm pressing in to God for it to happen! I realize it may be years before I ever have another Hershey's Hug!) I have fasted from meals, (no food from noon one day until the next day at breakfast), for weeks on end when I was lifting something up in prayer for a long period of time. I've fasted from reading, (other than the Bible), and fasted from time spent on the internet. (I don't watch movies or any TV, so I can't fast from those, but they would be a good one for someone who does spend time watching.) I'm telling you about all of these cuz I believe the different "fasts" can all be effective. I never had any desire to fast in my earlier walk, although I did it a few times anyway as a corporate thing, ie. our whole congregation fasting for a day or two. I hated it! It is a discipline, one that I have cultivated since becoming an intercessor. Sometimes I am called to fast with my fellow Prayer Shield partners (group of us that pray for our church and our leadership, primarily, although we have been expanding our prayers to cover our city and city leaders, etc. as of late). Our Prayer Shield leader will let us know of an important prayer request and indicate that this would be a good one to fast for, if we feel so led. Other times, I can feel a fast coming on. It's like the Holy Spirit starts nudging me, whispering to me, letting me know that it's time to bring out the "big guns". When I get to feeling that way, I ask (pray) about when I'm to start it and what I should fast from. I usually already know why I'm fasting. That's usually the first thing communicated. I often don't know how long I will have to fast, so I just ask God about that at the end of every day of the fast. "God, do you want me to fast tomorrow, too?" A verse I've always found interesting; don't know offhand where it's at: Paraphrased: After the forty days (of fasting) then Jesus became hungry. The way it's worded, it sounds like He didn't become hungry until the fast was at an end. This has often been the case for me, regardless of the length of the fast. Weird, huh? I'll shut up now! |
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Becky, thank you for the reminder to practice this spiritual discipline. Below is a website that I have used in the past for anyone that is interested in learning more about fasting.
http://www.freedomyou.com/
Blessings,
Pastor Tim |
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| Fasting is often a corporate thing for us. There's gonna be a day of prayer and fasting for ancient paths here in the Indiana, (the home of the strange stories as voice would say), My own experience is thus far I haven't been called to walk with Christ alone. Fasting as one of those things where caution is helpful. We don't wanna use fasting to hurt ourselves. We also don't want to legalistically try and fast to "earn" something from God. |
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| Well I try to keep the Franciscan Christmas fast (from Nov. 1st- Dec. 24th) as well as the Lenten one. Some years are easier than others. I think fasting is important as it reminds us of our dependence on God. |
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The following are a couple comments regarding fasting.
In Scripture we see several purposes for fasting. It's part of the discipline of self-control; it's a way of sharing that we depend on God alone and draw all our strength and resources from him; it's a way of focusing totally on him when seeking his guidance and help, and of showing that you really are in earnest in your quest; it's also, at times, an expression of sorrow and deep repentance, something that a person or community will do in order to acknowledge failure before God and seek his mercy. We tend to think of fasting as going without food. But we can fast from anything. If we love music and decide to miss a concert in order to spend time with God, that is fasting. It is helpful to think of the parallel of human friendship. When friends need to be together, they will cancel all other activities in order to make that possible. There's nothing magical about fasting. It's just one way of telling God that your priority at that moment is to be alone with him, sorting out whatever is necessary, and you have cancelled the meal, party, concert, or whatever else you had planned to do in order to fulfill that priority.
James Packer, Your Father Loves You, Harold Shaw Publishers, 1986, p. 14
In general we must hold that whenever any religious controversy arises, which either a council or ecclesiastical tribunal behooves to decide; whenever a minister is to be chosen; whenever, in short any matter of difficulty and great importance is under consideration: on the other hand, when manifestations of the divine anger appear, as pestilence, war, and famine, the sacred and salutary custom of all ages has been for pastors to exhort the people to public fasting and extraordinary prayer.
Calvin, Institutes, IV, 12, 14. |
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December 01, 2007 at 8:24am |
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GREAT BLOG BECKY
I cannot answer for anyone else but when I first got saved though of going without food was noot such a great thing, but now I never even think about it I never eat breafast see you don't have to fast all day or every meal, for me I must eat I love to eat not only that I am on meds I must eat, so in the morning I don't eat until noon & in that time I give my time in prayer and taking care God's business.
FASTING Fasting means eating little or no food, either from necessity or by choice. In medicine, fasting means flushing unhealthy substances out of the body by restricting food. Spiritual fasting, on the other hand, means more than just reducing the amount of food one eats. It also means cutting down on the activities one does and replacing these with prayer and meditation on spiritual concerns. The New Testament word that is translated “fasting” literally means one who has not eaten, one who is empty. Three types of fast are generally recognized: 1. normal, in which there is no food for a period of time, though there may be liquids; 2. partial, in which the diet is limited, though some food is allowed; and 3. absolute, in which no foods or liquids are taken into the body in any way. In the Old Testament the fast was thought of as a way of renouncing oneself and as a way of reducing God’s anger, moving him to forgiveness. In times of emergency, the people fasted to persuade God to spare them from calamity (Judges 20:26; 1 Samuel 7:6; 1 Kings 21:9; 2 Chronicles 20:3; Jeremiah 36:6, 9). Individual people fasted in the hope that God would save them from trouble (2 Samuel 12:16-20; 1 Kings 21:27; Psalms 35:13; 69:10). Prayer was a part of fasting (Ezra 8:21; Nehemiah 1:4; Jeremiah 14:12). Regular fasts usually lasted one day, morning to evening, with food permitted at night (Judges 20:26; 1 Samuel 14:24; 2 Samuel 1:12), although there are reports of longer fasts, such as Mordecai’s call for a three-day fast (night and day specified-Esther 4:16) and the seven-day fast at Saul’s death (1 Samuel 31:13; 2 Samuel 3:35). Special fasts included Moses’ forty days on Mount Sinai (Exodus 34:28) and Daniel’s three-week fast prior to receiving visions (Daniel 9:3; 10:3, 12). Fasting was often abused during Old Testament times. It was often done insincerely and as a way of showing off; rather than fasting for God, people fasted so that they would seem pious and spiritual. The prophets cry out against this kind of fasting, as in Jeremiah, in which the Lord says “Though they fast, I will not hear their cry” (Jeremiah 14:12, RSV; see Isaiah 58:1-10). During the time between the Old and New Testaments, a great tradition grew up around the practice of fasting. People confirmed vows by fasting; remorse and penitence were accompanied by fasting; and prayer was supported by fasting. Special fast days were observed, some voluntarily imposed. In the opinion of many rabbis, fasting was the primary way to demonstrate one’s piety. Those who fasted often wore mournful expressions on their faces, and the mood of fasting was one of gloom. Jesus thought of fasting differently. He fasted as part of his temptation in the wilderness (Matthew 4:2; Luke 4:2), and taught about fasting in the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 6:16-18). These two scenes from the Gospels tell us about his mature attitude toward fasting. Jesus’ temptation took place in the midst of a struggle. Immediately after his baptism, he was cast out into the wilderness by the Spirit to face the temptation of Satan. He fasted and prayed during this time because he was depending totally upon God. Jesus’ words about fasting in the Sermon on the Mount illustrate a totally different approach to fasting than the one taken by many teachers who lived at the same time. Jesus condemns the type of fasting that seeks to impress people. He gives it a new meaning: Fasting is service to God. This new meaning is part of Jesus’ message of hope and salvation. The Bridegroom (Jesus) is here. It is a time of joy, not of sorrow. The coming of the Messiah has broken the power of the evil age. This means that fasting is inconsistent with the joy and happiness of the new age that Christ has brought, but because the kingdom of God is not fully realized-has not completely arrived here on earth-there is still a place for a certain kind of fasting. It should be a part of prayer, and we should fast in the same way that we pray: with quietness before God, not trying to show off, grateful and thankful, grounded in faith, hoping to grow spiritually. |
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I have fasted for 3 days before. And I have also fasted for one meal a day for a week like say as soon as I eat breakfst I dont eat till supper that night. But no matter how long or wich way I fast I always spend that time with the Lord. I have 4 children so obviously I cant stay in my room all day. The Bible says to pray without ceasing. This is talking about having a mind of prayer. That is what so wonderful about being a child of God. He is everywhere I go. I can pray to Him (talk to Him) all day long and still go about my daily routines. I do stop during lunch or supper which ever I am fasting and go to my room and pray and read my Bible. Alot of times I pray scripture to Him. It is also normal for our bodies to go crazy when we are not feeding it. Ps. 109:24 David is praying and fasting and he tells the Lord "My knees are weak through fasting; and my flesh faileth of fatness." The Lord also when he fasted was hungry.That is why the devil tempted him with bread. Luke 4:1-4 Talks about in vs 1 (He was led by the spirit to fast) vs 2 (he afterward hungered) vs3 (devil tempts Him with bread) vs4 (Jesus quotes scripture from Deut. 8:3 man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. So whenever you feel tempted to eat, read your Bible. Or quote scripture by heart. Hope this helped. |
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Good post. Great comments. there are a lot of things to consecrate with, like entertainment, newspapers, secular anything, but especially food. My favorite is nothing by mouth except a breath mint! I guess you can add quite a few things to that list such as: Reading at least the New Testament all the way through if not the whole bible. Leading at least one soul to Christ, if not at least giving out tracts. Learn the name of that 'poor' person you see a lot, or at least help them with a meal. etc. Let's taste and see that the Lord is good and diligently seek Him. |
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I have fasted several times. Very rarely have I chosen a fast that wold be no food at all. Sometimes we will fast meat, pop, sweets, TV, etc. The point is, you are giving up something you really enjoy in the natural, & exchange it for a very special time of prayer in the supernatural. It is a gift exchange....sorta. LOL! I know it cause our faith to be extended, & it is impossible to please him without faith. HOLD UP THOUGH! I got this word around Yom Kippor time whe we were trying to fast all day, & by 6 pm I was spent. I had to eat. 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and declare unto my people their transgression, and to the house of Jacob their sins. 58:2 Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways: as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God, they ask of me righteous judgments; they delight to draw near unto God. 58:3 Wherefore have we fasted, `say they', and thou seest not? `wherefore' have we afflicted our soul, and thou takest no knowledge? Behold, in the day of your fast ye find `your own' pleasure, and exact all your labors. 58:4 Behold, ye fast for strife and contention, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye fast not this day so as to make your voice to be heard on high. 58:5 Is such the fast that I have chosen? the day for a man to afflict his soul? Is it to bow down his head as a rush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to Jehovah? 58:6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the bands of the yoke, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? 58:7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh? 58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thy healing shall spring forth speedily; and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of Jehovah shall by thy rearward. 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and Jehovah will answer; thou shalt cry, and he will say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking wickedly; 58:10 and if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul: then shall thy light rise in darkness, and thine obscurity be as the noonday; 58:11 and Jehovah will guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in dry places, and make strong thy bones; and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not. 58:12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places; thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in. 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, `and' the holy of Jehovah honorable; and shalt honor it, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking `thine own' words: 58:14 then shalt thou delight thyself in Jehovah; and I will make thee to ride upon the high places of the earth; and I will feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of Jehovah hath spoken it.
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December 02, 2007 at 9:44am |
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Hi Becky! I got one more verse for you regarding fasting. 35:13 But as for me, when they were sick, my clothing was sackcloth: I afflicted my soul with fasting; And my prayer returned into mine own bosom. King David had fasted to afflict his soul and when he did that he says his prayer returned. Hope this helps you. Fast and pray. God bless you. |
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Alissa - (Hey that is my daughters name) Ha. Yes fasting, whatever the fast can be very good to help you in your discipline of following and listening to the Lord. I remember last year I used to get so frrustrated in my fast. See I would commute 1 1/2 hours to work and listen to the bible. When my mind would wonder on other things than the words I would have to start the cd over... frustrating but it teaches you discipline. Another thing fasting taught me was to sit still and listen. Course this ADHD adult can only listen for 5 minutes but hey it is getting better.
I will take any sites you have to help me in this area.
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| Holy Cow I am behind on Comments - Sorry folks behind on reading them too. I will get there trust me. Love Becky |
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December 23, 2007 at 8:45am |
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I do not know a lot about fasting, but I know that many people call not eating, FASTING. The spiritual meaning of fasting is doing without food for spiritual purposes. I think of that story of the child who had some sort of seizures, and the people said that prayer just wasn't working. Jesus said that for this particular thing, you must PRAY AND FAST. So, there are particular things to pray and fast for, and the two go hand in hand. When you are spiritually sincere about praying and fasting, then you will do it, and McDonald's won't even tempt you because of your sincerity. I think you are a beautiful soul, Becky, and you desire what is pure and right. Don't beat yourself up about it. It will come to you when the time is right. |
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January 04, 2008 at 1:17pm |
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Thank you for this blog, Becky. I shared the fasting information with my husband. We've been praying for the right job for him, but I believe in fasting as well, if it is done for spiritual means. Joey |
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January 05, 2008 at 6:40am |
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| HI Becky....was truly touched by your testimony. I'm in NE Oklahoma & having a rude awakening of the credit card debt....am checking out the links you have to fasting. Thank you for sharing! Cheryl |
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March 21, 2008 at 7:35pm |
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A Hunger for God; Desiring God Through Fasting and Prayer, John Piper, Crossway Books.
I had been thinking a lot about fasting because I kept seeing it in scripture. Then I found out about a fasting class at a local church (not mine) and signed up. This book did a wonderful job of coaching me through my first successful fasting experience. There were 8 or 9 other people who took the class with me. It was a wonderful experience.
Some of it is just making room for God. Some of it is learning to say to "no" to the things that become very appealing in our lives. Some of it is learning to identify with those in need. Some of it is placing into practice those things in live that really are the most important.
We all have good comments to all of that, but we have to experience it all first hand to start to understand the real value. It is in experiencing that value added that fasting becomes successful.
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