16"(The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John; since that time the gospel of the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is forcing his way into it.

 17"But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one stroke of a letter of the Law to fail.

 18"Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries one who is divorced from a husband commits adultery. "

Hear the Words of the Lord-----please seek His face............and do not follow man, because man will not be standing by your side on judgment day.   We will all stand before the Lord and answer for those things done in the flesh...........

 33'Should you not also have had mercy on your fellow slave, in the same way that I had mercy on you?'

 34"And his lord, moved with anger, handed him over to the torturers until he should repay all that was owed him.

 35"My heavenly Father will also do the same to you, if each of you does not forgive his brother from your heart."

I disagree.  From what I read this was her first marriage, not her second.  But it was her husband's 3rd.  And Jesus hates divorce.  This reads as a case of being crushed by the law not being redeemed.  Legalism is dangerous and destructive.  All have fallen short, all have sinned all need to repent.  One can make oneself "do" the acts of the law but if one is not changed from the inside you are no different then a Pharisee.  Redemption is being transformed into something new and different, her marriage could have been redeemed.  You said so yourself a marriage can be redeemed, it wasn't just a relationship it was a marriage. 
I find the hardest part of Christianity is not in the doing but in the transformation.  I can make myself act in accordance to the law but I can not make myself live the truth in my spirit.  

 8Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. 9But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

 10To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.

 12To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

 15But if the unbeliever leaves, let him do so. A believing man or woman is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. 16How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?

1 Corinthians 7:8-16

Yes I do believe Lk pertains to the New Covenant Church, but Job said that there is no divorce under the New Covenant.  Which is untrue.

The point I was making is that it is for freedom that we have been set free.  There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus.  In faith you can ask anything in His name.  You ask for redemption, then it will come.  Can all things be made new?  Yes they can. 

I am sorry but you will not convince me that Jesus told this woman to commit another sin in order to correct the first one.  Basically she acted upon the law and not love. 

I will have to bow out of this conversation.  The Lord has told me that this is only bringing about a fruit of division and dissention.  Please forgive me for my arrogance and not keeping the peace between brothers.  This is not an issue the Lord has brought into my life and it is only arrogance that keeps me argueing the point. 

On Nov. 16, 2004 the Holy Spirit convicted me of being in adultery. Since then I have diligently searched the Scriptures to make sure this is so. When various pastors tried to comfort me, encourage me and pray for me I found no peace until I repented of the adulterous relationship. I believe that the Holy Spirit is trying to open not only my eyes, but the eyes of many remarried adulterers – however, the preachers and pastors just explain away the scriptures. And the convicted souls accept this, finally quenching the conviction of the Spirit. They will then feel a false peace – a “peace” which is not peace, merely the absence of conviction.

So what must we do? We must be like the Bereans in Acts, searching the scriptures ourselves to see whether the pastor or preacher says is so. Our souls must not rest on the opinions of men, but on “what saith the Lord thy God.” “Let God be true, but every man a liar.”

Many denominations have reinterpreted what the Bible says about divorce and remarriage, and now we are reaping the evil fruits of these misinterpretations. The divorce rate among Christians is higher than in the rest of the nation! Everyone is doing what is right in his or her own eyes. Preachers will tell you whatever you want to hear. Most of it is a blend of psychology, popular Bible quotes and American culture and good feelings. That’s basically how our theology on marriage has been reworked in the last 30 to 40 years.

What’s going on? Whatever happened to the authority of scripture? There was once a time in this country where our thoughts on divorce marriage and remarriage was almost unanimous. Even unbelievers knew what the Bible had to say. But today only one out of every 4 or 5 “born again” adults believes that divorce is sin (according to George Barna Research.) This tells us that our pastors are not teaching the truth, they are only feeding the people religious feel-good philosophy to build up the congregations and get the money flowing in.

I have not only searched the scriptures on divorce and remarriage, I have also read church denominational papers and beliefs on this issue, from the Assemblies of God to the Baptists. I have found that most have changed, dramatically, their stance on remarriage from where the church of yesteryear once stood. This has been done to please men rather than God. These church leaders think that just because they have redefined their doctrines to allow for a sinful behavior, God somehow approves! But God had not changed.

These church leaders like to take the passages of Scripture which are somewhat more vague and harder to understand, and use them to explain away the plain teaching of Scripture. This helps them justify our own selfish behaviors. Charles Finney, the great revivalist of the last century, once said that “selfishness is the whole of moral depravity,” and isn’t selfishness the whole of the current acceptance of divorce and remarriage? Why else change everything, other than to allow for the selfish desires and needs of men? This is exactly the opposite of the high calling of every Christian: “If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.”


Another thing often seen in churches today, is pastors who do preach the truth, but don’t preach the whole truth. They like to skirt around the hard issues found in the Bible. But that doesn’t make those hard issues go away. They are still right there, waiting for the day when pastors again will fear God as much as they fear the opinions of their congregations. On that day we will see a revival like never before. When preachers get that kind of fear of God, we will have a revival that would make John Wesley, Jonathan Edwards, Dwight Moody, Charles Finney and Billy Sunday look on with awe. When I go back and read of Wesley, Edwards, and Finney’s revivals in the past centuries, I see nothing in the church of today that even remotely resembles this. This is not because there are no sinners outside the church needing salvation – it is because of the professing “born again” sinners within the church. It’s because of pastors who do not have the boldness to preach on hard issues, the boldness that can lead to true repentance, as it did in years past.

There are many churches today where the Bible is loved, preached and believed, but we almost always find that the pastors focus on only the positive side of Christianity. They will never preach on hell, they will never preach on specific sins, they will always talk about what Jesus can do for you, how he can help you to be better, how he can help you overcome this and overcome that – as if all these other things, the negative and serious things that are hard to hear are not in the Bible, when in point of fact they are.

We are so deceived. And we want to be deceived, because it is easier to be deceived than to know the truth. And there is no place where we want to be deceived more than in the realm of sexuality. People tell themselves lies until they believe those lies. That is why a pastor of a church of approximately 10,000 in southern California divorced his wife after five years. And one week after the divorce was final, he lined up seven prominent pastors across the front of his congregation to bless his remarriage! When Jack Heyford called him to task for this, he said, “God didn’t call me to marriage. He called me to ministry.” And this sort of thing is going on all over the country.

The core of the problem is that we don’t preach repentance anymore. We just don’t believe in it anymore, because to have repentance you have to hear the hard truth of the Word – the truth that gives God the Holy Spirit something to work with to bring conviction to our hearts. True repentance is what it’s going to take to turn this thing around. Instead of pointing our fingers at others – mostly at homosexuals – we must confess and repent of our own rebellion!

There is some good news. There are some who are standing up to the rot and sin of the church and the deafening silence of the pulpit. Like attorney/pastor Charles Crrismier and his national radio broadcast, Viewpoint, who will speak openly and truthfully about this issue. Like pastors Steven Key, Stephen Wilcox and Joseph Webb who will not stand by and let Satan walk all over God’s precious institution of marriage. And regular ole church folk like me and many others I have corresponded with, who are standing up and no longer willing to be silent. If the pulpit wants to remain silent, let it. God is waking up people in the pews instead. God’s truth will not return to him void. The “rocks” are starting to cry out.

I wish the Lord hadn’t led me to an issue that was so controversial. But we, mankind, have made it controversial so that we may do our own will and not that of the Father. I cannot step away from this issue in fear. As I read about the Roman Empire in its last stages decay, the one thing that was so typical of those last days of decay was the prevalence of divorce, remarriage and homosexuality. The church will address homosexuality with great fervor, but will not touch divorce and remarriage. We seem to be reliving the last days of the Roman Empire .
If we don’t repent of divorce and remarriage, in 20 to 40 years we the church will be facing the same problem with homosexual couples in the church. Pastors who are fearful of preaching a repentance message to the remarried adulterers in their pews, will become just as fearful of preaching repentance to the homosexual couples who will be sitting in those same pews. Just as the church has become accustomed to remarital adultery in the last fifty years, it will become accustomed to homosexuality.

I was one of the many remarried adulteresses sitting in the pew on Sunday mornings. If I had waited for the pulpits to preach repentance and truth on this issue, I would still be in my adultery. But praise the Lord – one Saturday night the Holy Spirit and his Word convicted me. I fell and wept before the Lord and by his grace repented. And praise God, now I see many others around America waking up and repenting also!

"Look at the legalized adultery we call divorce. Men marry one wife after another and are still admitted into good society; and women do likewise. There are thousands of supposedly respectable men in American living with other men's wives, and thousands of supposedly respectable women living with other women's husbands." - R. A. Torrey From R.A. Torrey's book How to Pray, pages 94-95

R.A. Torrey (1856-1928) was a very well-known Christian writer, evangelist, pastor, graduate of Yale University, and was also the superintendent of Moody Bible Institute for 19 years.

Amen, R.A. Torrey Hit the nail on the head! My, how times have changed. See below.

New York Times
December 7, 1904, Wednesday
TRINITY BARS THE DIVORCED.; No Remarriage in the Church or Any of the Chapels.

The clergy of Trinity Church announced yesterday that under no circumstances will divorced persons be married by any of the clergy of that Episcopal parish, nor will such marriages be permitted either in the church at Wall Street and Broadway or in any one of the parish's eight chapels. The announcement was as follows:
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Never mind, Tropical Guy.  It is clear to me that you will not answer the simple questions I've asked you.  I don't mean to be difficult, but the type of response you gave me is exactly why we are seeing the divorce/remarriage mess in the confessing church today..........Many pastors do exactly what you have done----avoid answering/addressing those hard situations..........Personally, I believe the Lord DOES want answers given to the wife/husband who is remaining faithful to their spouses/vows  as well as to those who have forsaken their marriages/families.

Yes, you are right brother Job.  The plague of adultery in the church, as well as homosexuality, is not found only in certain denominations, it is quite widespread now.   I personally do not know of any one entire denomination that teaches the permanency of marriage.   What we find are a smattering of individual churches within denominations that uphold the sanctity of lifelong marriage and the prohibition of practicing homosexuals in the ministry/membership........so we cannot make broadsweeping comments about any particular denomination, nor the people involved in the denominations.  At the Marriages for Life conference I attended in 2006, I was very excited to see that those who believe in the permanency of marriage come from all different denominational backgrounds.   We all had the same concerns/sadness, etc----that what was once considered to be sin was now being passionately embraced within our churches.  Many sit there silently in their churches, not "approving" of what they see, but they do not know what to do.  I was there at one time................yet I know that remaining silent will NOT change anything.  In due time, it will encourage MORE to enter into sinful relationships because most view silence as approval on some level.