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Laura received a book this Christmas (Eat, Pray, Love by Elizabeth Gilbert, NY Times #1 bestseller) as a gift from someone very dear, who grew up going to church (Episcopal, I believe) and, like us, refers to herself as a "Christian". So Laura was anticipating a peek inside this person’s heart of faith, as well as an enjoyable read. But as soon as she started reading it, her heart sank as she read the following bits:
"let me first explain why I use the word God, when I could just as easily use the words Jehovah, Allah, Shiva, Brahma, Vishnu, or Zeus. Alternatively, I could call God “That,” which is how the ancient Sanskrit scriptures say it…But we each do need a functional name for this indescribability, and ‘God’ is the name that feels the most warm to me, so that’s what I use."
And... “Culturally, though not theologically, I’m a Christian. I was born a Protestant… And while I do love that great teacher of peace who was called Jesus…I can’t swallow that one fixed rule of Christianity insisting that Christ is the only path to God."
Turns out the author of the book is a lady who discovered “God” through New Age mysticism, complete with Ashrams, Yogis, her own Guru, etc. By giving this book as a gift, our dear "Christian" loved one appears to enthusiastically support its contents. Laura and I now fear she may not actually know Jesus (the Person supposedly at the center of her childhood faith) after all. We're wondering how to respond when the subject of this book comes up next time we talk to this person. (We DON’T want to be pushy, as we’ve been accused of that before.) But then, perhaps the giving of this book is actually the very avenue through which the true God intends to make himself known personally???
Maybe after reading this you can say a little prayer that God would give us the words when the time comes to share our hope?
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Mike,
We EACH have to accept Jesus as our Savior. We EACH have to come to know, love and believe that HE is the only way to heaven.
We can reiterate to others what we have been taught, what we have come to realize as truth, yet we cannot force it down their throats. They have to be open and ready to hear and accept our FATHERS gift of Salvation. That does not mean that we stop sharing the Word, it does not mean that we change who we are or how we act around certain people. We NEVER, EVER give up our identity as His Child. We continue on the path that is laid out before us.
Father will lead you to the place, time and give you the words and/or actions to either approach this person or lead this person to you. Be yourself, continue to praise him and give thanks that he has opened your eyes to this person heart and wait for him to give you direction as to what to do. There is a reason why this particular revelation came about !!! Wait, Pray and continue to give thanks for discernment and wisdom.
MUCH LOVE |
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Mike,
I understand how you feel when it comes to those who say that they are Christians, but thier beliefs and/or actions may not lineup with the Word of God. I believe that it is our responsibility to pray for these wayward people as we would any sinner and when led by the Holy Spirit....chase after them and go fishing for thier souls. However, I also believe that there is a time where one must take thier prayers and leave it in the presence of God and allow God to move in that situation.
I look at some people that I know and how they may be into a certain television show that is totally against God (themes of homosexuality, making fun of Jesus, etc). This gets to me as they claim to be seeking after our God. I pray for them, but I have not been led by the Holy Spirit to confront them yet. I think that this also relates back to my sins. How can I point out someone else's sins and act as I do not sin?
Anyways, good blog. I think that God is bringing us to a point where a) our unconfessed sins (hidden sins) will be brought out. and b) false Christians will also be brought out. I believe this is because He says that His bride (the church) will be without spot or wrinkle. He is in the process of ironing out the dress and cleaning out the spots.
So when it comes to people like your friend. Pray for them, and leave them at the altar of God. Let Him clean them up. Meanwhile, everyday should be used to allow God to clean us and prepare us!
~Jeremy |
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| Mike-praying for you for wisdom and boldness! Would be honored to have you join our group SOS(Soulwinning Outreach Stories) and share your evangelistic adventures! |
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December 30, 2007 at 5:20pm |
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Mike - Was there anything in the book that either you or Laura read that could be spoken of in a positive manner? I ask b/c I'm thinking that, when the subject of the gift comes up with the giver, you would at least be able to say: "My favorite part of the book was ...." and then ask the giver, "What did you like best about it?" At the least, this will give you more insight into where they are at spiritually and will get you off the hook for gushing over an entire book that you really don't agree with. At best, with the Holy Spirit's leading, this could be a springboard into a deeper conversation about personal beliefs. My parents are church-going people, and at times I'm mostly convinced that my mom is a true believer, but then things are said by her that lead me to think otherwise. (I'd say I'm much less convinced about my dad's salvation.) Conversations with them about what they actually believe are nebulous at best, leaving me no more informed than before I asked them. Anymore, I don't bring up the subject, but just lift them in prayer as unbelievers and listen to them when they do want to talk "God stuff", which isn't often... I know yours and Laura's hearts for this person is to be assured of their salvation, and I pray that God would give you both an extra measure of discernment in knowing what your part in that may be. :-) |
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Mike, this is always a difficult situation. I will pray that God would direct you and Laura's steps in this matter.
I would offer one suggestion. If she is willing to discuss her new found faith, you may want to ask her what she thinks about Jesus. The New Age religion generally wants to associate Jesus with their belief system. This may be a great opportunity to show what Jesus said about himself allowing her to compare what Jesus said with what she believes about Jesus. |
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Mike,
Follow-up. I was studying and God pointed out this scripture to share with you and whoever may read this blog. May you see what He wants you to see.
1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; 1:14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance: 1:15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. 1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning [here] in fear: 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, [as] silver and gold, from your vain conversation [received] by tradition from your fathers; 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God. 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, [see that ye] love one another with a pure heart fervently: 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 1:24 For all flesh [is] as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: 1:25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
Remember when it comes down to the things of God, nothing else matters but His Word and the Blood that was shed. If you ever have a question about something, take it back to Him, take it back to Salvation, and He will reveal His Word to you.
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I agree Pastor Tim, this does seem like it could be a great opportunity, especially if she asks us about the book!
Jen, what great insights!! I (we) will make a point of asking, "What did you like best about the book?" This is great, it will lead into a great discussion, as long as A.) we follow the Spirit's leading and B.) we speak carefully, not coming across as pushy or critical. (We won't if we follow the Spirit.) Thanks for taking the time to share your insights!!
Jeremy, thanks for your input! We will most definitely be praying for her, and will gladly lay this one at the Father's feet, so to speak! But we'll also need to be careful when the topic comes up next time we are with her.
Mary, right on! I am with you whole-heartedly!
Marcella, thanks for sharing a little personal testimony, that encourages me!
Jeff, I would like to check out SOS, if only to get encouragement from the success stories. |
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Mike,
I agree. It is wise to be cautious.
Jeremy |
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Mike - I will be praying for guidance from our Father for you and Laura. Maybe and I'm grasping at straws but is it possible that your friend has not read the book nor did she read any inserts before purchasing. I know that I always, especially if I'm unfamiliar with the author, read the intro and several pages before purchasing. But, maybe she didn't. In the event this is true; you, through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, still would need to talk with her regrading the book.
God Bless You. |
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The Bible says we are to worship in spirit and truth.If that book doesnt hold up against the word then it must be rejected . That book may has givin someone a false sense of salvation |
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| I would approach it boldly, because she boldly gave you the book--isn't that sharing her beliefs with you? You have an obligation to speak to the inaccuracies that she handed you. Praying that the Lord fills your mouth with the right words at the right time that will lead her back to the truth! |
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December 30, 2007 at 11:35pm |
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Mike, I can appreciate you don't want to come across with her as being pushy, _ again. I would take my cue from Jesus and push; hard. I'll explain. Much of what she says, and what many believers get caught up in, is names. Names say a lot and say nothing at once. Whether calling ourselves Christian, Protestant, Evangelical or other, many of us never pause to ask ourselves why "Christian", as our brethren were called in Acts, does not suffice. We feel a need to qualify our being Christian. We are deeply influenced and swayed by the world in the acceptance and use of terminology such as "Christianity" to refer to the faith that is in Christ Jesus. Christianity is a term, like communism and other isms coined by the world, to refer to our faith. We put "Christianity" on par with Jesus. I believe Jesus, the Son of God, our Heavenly Father, and accept ALL his teachings, not "Christianity". There are many cues given by Jesus and the apostles. One will suffice. When Jesus refers to Nicodemus as being, "the teacher of Israel", it was not because Nicodemus made it known, as far as the Scriptures relate, that he was a teacher. Jesus pushes Nicodemus to confront his theology. Jesus says to him, "If I told you earthly things and you do not believe, how shall you believe if I tell you heavenly things?" The point being, that whether one refers to oneself as a "teacher" or a "Christian", shall we snicker in ridicule at "you must be born of water again" or, "love that great teacher of peace who was called Jesus", but assert, "I can’t swallow that one fixed rule of Christianity insisting that Christ is the only path to God"? There's quite a mix there between, "that great teacher of peace" and the, "rule of Christianity" that begs for some elaboration. Well, another instance. Jesus very bluntly makes it clear to the religious aspirant at the well, "You worship that which you do not know." The position from which your friend is coming is not new. Jesus encountered it with the religiously ignorant, the religiously well-intentioned and the hardcore, hostile opponents to his teaching. All these instances are cues, examples, for us to learn for our everyday encounters at the well. Yet another instance. Jesus pushed his listeners: "If I do not do the works of my Father, do not believe Me; but if I do them, though you do not believe Me, believe the works. . ." Some questions and points to ponder, though not necessarily put to her. I consider her a disciple. Do not let that alarm you. We both love Jesus. We are both familiar with his teaching as the Lord would expect anyone professing to be called by his name. The disciples were no less hardpressed than her, not so much to understand (although that was an issue at times) as to accept, the words of Jesus: "This is a difficult statement; who can listen to it?" Jesus replied, "Does this cause you to stumble?" She has stumbled ("I can't swallow. . .") on what she does not understand. Personally, I neither know nor do I follow, "rules of Christianity" regarding Christ nor the path to God, but I do know and follow what Jesus taught regarding the way to the Father. If Jesus were just another sweet, nice teacher, then he was also a nut case not to be taken seriously at all given his claims: Push. Either he is who he claims to be or he's a a crazed lunatic. America is becoming home to an increasing number of ardent, devout believers of the Hindu, Muslim and other beliefs. Already, there are Christians ("culturally") of little understanding of their own faith who "convert" from "Christianity". |
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December 30, 2007 at 11:57pm |
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Hi Mike,
I wonder if your friend read the book... many people purchase best selling books for people at Christmas; especially religious books if they know their friends is a Christian.
My husband once gave me a book of poetry for our anniversary. He asked me to read one of the poems to him and I felt my face flame up and I started to giggle and told there was no way I could read something that to anyone. It turned out that he just grabbed two books and had them wrap 'em up. He felt terrible, but we had a good laugh. That book left the house that day. |
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December 31, 2007 at 3:37am |
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| Mike i saw that book in the book store and thought about getting it and now you just confirmed the reason I didn't I heard the Holy Spirit say it's not what it appears to be.....Thank you for sharing....I have a cousin who says she believes in God just not the same one i do...As a child she was forced to attend church by my aunt who then beat her and abused her and all in the name of the Lord.....There are so many wounded people seaking but never finding the one true God and settles for what feels right.....How to go about talking to your friend is indeed a tricking subject because you don't want to run them off but God say's we are to share the truth and not sugar coat it....I'lll be praying God leads you in your talks with your friend..... |
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Cheryl and Joey, regarding "is it possible that your friend has not read the book".... yes, entirely possible. This is why I especially liked the suggestion from Jen - ask her what she liked about the book first, to see if she read it.
Thanks Gil T and Christian No Spin, I appreciate your responses! In the past we have pushed preemptively, now I think we'll take it a little more cautiously, considering the familial relationship. We must be gentle yet firm, right?
Rosie, I almost edited the name of the book out, in order to shorten the blog, but you've just validated my decision to leave it in -- thanks!! And you fleshed out another great point which occurred to me but I failed to express....the book (like much these days) isn't what it appears to be! Great comment Rosie, thanks!!! Love it when you comment!
Thanks for your prayers Kim, Rosie, and Jeremy! |
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December 31, 2007 at 5:27am |
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Hi Mike & laura, I read your blog, maing a puzzled look and then thought a bit. THEN I read the floow ups. I also got this far by a few friends praying for me...no doubt in my mind. I So belive in the Power of Prayer!!
My feelings is does laura wish to keep this friendship? I have friends who belive in there own thing and like was said I Pray for them. I was taught over the past few years that if i am to approach someone with something I am not happy about i best be able to sit and talk things out and not hurt thir feelings to where i owe them an amends and not have any expectaions of them following what i believe. Power of example is what i been taught.
Also you can always ask aboyt her beliefs and find out why she feels this way, in a loving way.
One never knows what tomorrow brings. God be with you
Praying you find the answers you are seeking
Thanks for such a wonderful blog
Donna
God Grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change
the courage to change the things i can
and the wisdom to know the differance.
Prayer to Believe in Christ's Name
Father, I'm praying for Laura's friend and others in my circle of family and friends who need Christ...
As I pray for these who are not yet saved, there is so much at stake. I can't help but think of all the lives they'll touch and pray for in their lifetimes following their salvation, and the impact they can have for generations to come! (Psalm 22:30–31)
I thank You that You have clearly said in Your Word that You want the lost to come to You through Christ—that You want all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth. I thank You that Jesus gave Himself as a ransom for all men. No one was left out of His sacrifice; the price has already been paid. (1 Timothy 2:1–6)
Jesus came into the world as the true light that gives light to every person. May these who are unsaved see His light and be drawn to it, loving it more than the darkness. May they receive Christ and believe in His name—trusting and relying on Him, not simply understanding who He is—for those who do are given the right to become Your children. (John 1:9; 3:19; 1:12)
Grant them new life.
In Jesus' name, amen.
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This verse was piercing my heart as I read this blog. I myself can make no greater comment here compared to what Jesus had to say:
Matthew 6:23
But when your eye is bad, your whole body is filled with darkness. And if the light you think you have is actually darkness, how deep that darkness is! |
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December 31, 2007 at 5:39am |
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| Mike: I will be praying for you and I am confident that with the Lord's help and the guidance of the Holy Spirit, you will handle this situation great when the appointed time comes. Your blogs have been such an inspiration to me and with that in mind, I feel that you could tackle anything (I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me). |
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December 31, 2007 at 5:43am |
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OK, If she ask if Laura liked the book, just say that the book really helped Laura appreciate more her love and commitment to Christ and how satisfied she is with her faith. That is exactly what I did two years ago when a co-worker gave me the DaVinci book as a Christmas gift. She thought that is what good just because it had the picture of Jesus and it had great reviews. OH, by the way... she appreciated my feedback on the book and did not feel offended, cause I made the book work in favor of my faith instead of against it. She was happy to know her gift helped me appreciate more my Christian faith.
You see, books like that serve to show us how strong, consistent, and stable Christianity is. So, look at the possibilities that will open just because of that book. Maybe Laura receiving that book is the way God is going to bring back her daughter to His loving arms. You never know... God can be funny sometimes ;-) |
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ds13099 (Donna), nice new profile pic! :-) In answer to your post, yes the relationship between this person and us is dear, indeed cherished! Thus we feel conflicted (truth vs sensitivity). You've also echoed the wise counsel of Jen (and a couple others)... ask! Questions can invite a two-way discussion. If she (or anyone) starts thinking about how she answers those questions, it might lead her to question her "faith", which she (and all of us) should do.
Michael, wow! The HS definitely brought that to you! Carolyn, thank you so much! God bless you, and thanks for the reminder of Christ's power in us.
Lourdes, I deeply appreciate your counsel. I like the phrase you suggest, "appreciate more my Christian faith". This could invite her to open up to us in depth about her faith, which may be in something other than Jesus. That would become apparent. As far as "the way God is going to bring back her daughter to His loving arms", that thought occurred to me....praise him for these opportunities, and may we be sensitive to them when they come! |
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December 31, 2007 at 7:37am |
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| Hi, Mike and Laura--this looks like one of those strange opportunities that God brings into our paths where we really need the Holy Spirit to lead and guide. I will be praying for this situation today that God gives you his wisdom and discernment by His Holy Spirit and that your freind will be open to the true Gospel message of salvation. |
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December 31, 2007 at 10:27am |
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| Hey Mike, I know you have read my blog, but I wanted to make a suggestion. Since she gave you guys a book, perhaps there is a book you can give her? I know there are books out there that might give a better description of what it is about to have a personal relationship with God. It is indeed an opportunity to make her more aware of what a real relationship with our Savior is all about. |
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Hi Deb, I'm sure I've read it, I try to read everything you write. Interesting, a book for a book. I don't doubt that there are many books that explain the essence of Christianity better than Laura or I could! We certainly don't mind doing that as well, but I think we're gonna have to be prepared for the direct approach too, since we'll eventually see her.
Thanks chafas and suzanne, appreciate your input and prayers. |
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December 31, 2007 at 11:23am |
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Just remember this. My grandma always said that two wrongs don't make a right. Love your neighbor. Turn the other cheek. If someone asks you to walk one mile with him, walk two.
My grief counselor told me this. Never, ever assume.
I love you guys. |
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| Amen Joey. So are you saying approach with love (gentleness, respect, etc.)? We certainly will, as we love this dear person very much!! |
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Dear Mike and Laura, Thanks for the great post and discussion. Amen to that last comment. Love never fails.... Joy to you and peace in New Year 2008!
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January 01, 2008 at 8:54pm |
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You go guys! |
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January 01, 2008 at 9:01pm |
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Will be praying for you and for her heart to be receptive.
Blessings to you both in 2008! |
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| Thanks so much, Cheryl, Joey, and June!! |
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January 01, 2008 at 9:37pm |
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Maybe I shouldn't say this, but it could have been a re-gifter and it could be that she never read it to even know what it was about. (Not that I would ever do such a thing :) |
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We also will be praying for God to give you amazing wisdom, boldness and sensitivity to His timing. I also believe like you that God has open the door for you and your wife to share the gospel. Through out the blog I also thought like others that their might be a possibility that your friend may not have read the book and has no idea what is in it. This I know...that from reading your blogs you will have no problem articulating what God wants to be said when the time comes. Please keep us posted as to how this all works out! Side-note: Even if you find that this book was not read by the giver...still be sensitive the opportunity God may be setting up either with this family member or others. I'm not sure what I mean here but I feel God is pressing that on my heart. Thanks again for your candor and openess to share your life experiences with us. |
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Thanks Sue, that is a good thought, though knowing her I'm pretty sure she wouldn't re-gift us. At least now I have an idea what to do with that other book that I rec'd myself! lol
Francine, I can't tell ya how much I appreciate reading that. Thank you for sharing your heart! Laura and I will pray about your words, and the others too. |
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January 02, 2008 at 4:27pm |
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Mike, I'd have to say that I agree with Jen. have you read the rest of the book? I don't know what's in it but from the title it may have some practical things that are useful - although not all parts may be spiritually accurate. I don't advocate accepting the contents in full, just parse out what's real from what's false. "Just because the cop is an atheist, I'll still believe him when he tells what the speed limit is."
And Wade has a point. Do you know if she's read the book herself and knows what's in it? She might have seen the cover thought about you when she saw the words "pray and love."
I'll pray that God will give you both the words to speak when the time is right. |
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January 02, 2008 at 5:25pm |
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I agree with the relaxed fact-finding "conversational" approach. One thing I want to add: Since you've received a shock, you and Laura may need to let the Lord give you inner healing so that when you talk to this person who is close and dear to you, you can do it without any lingering pain or deep-felt emotion that might put her on the defensive. It has been my experience that sometimes we move forward too fast after an upsetting event without really meeting with God and letting him bring healing and perspective to our hearts and minds. I pray that as needed you will press into Him and each other in this matter and have your hearts healed from the shock you received about your loved one. Lord, I ask for assurance of Your leading, peace about the anticipated encounter, and fully prepared hearts. Thank you for giving them wisdom and all that they need to represent you in this situation. I pray you will also prepare the other person to receive them - give her a tenderized heart and ears to hear. Bless this relationship and bring it to a higher level. I know I'm ready when I can talk about important emotional things in a calm voice instead of a wobbly emotional one . . . Let us know how it turns out. |
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Gene, you're right, Jen had some wonderful points. I really liked the question approach she suggests. I feel very comfortable with this approach. I agree that she may have given the book merely b/c the title sounds like something Laura would enjoy. As for the rest of the book, there's very little if anything that's useful or practical. It is completely the author's discovery of New Age-ism. I read the first three chapters, a couple in the middle, and a couple more at the end (very short chapters).
Jay, what wise and sweet words. Thank you so much for your prayers and thoughtful wisdom! I have no idea what the timeline will be, but it could be a while. We see this person once every year or two. Although we talk on the phone and by email much more frequently. I'll try to post a follow-up blog, or a comment on this one, if/when the topic of the book comes up. |
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[UPDATE] Laura and I found out from a friend that the author of this book (Elizabeth Gilbert) was on Oprah very recently, and presented herself as a "believer in God". (Of course she is, but she doesn't realize which god.) The friend who told us this said that she assumed Ms. Gilbert was a Christian by the way she spoke about God. But WE have the benefit of having read portions of her book, and unfortunately know that this isn't so. SO along with this blog comes another warning - DON'T be deceived by every person who comes along claiming to know God!!!
This news also encouraged us, b/c if our friend (a committed Christian) could be mislead by Ms. Gilbert, then perhaps our dear one (the gift giver who this blog is about) could have similarly been mislead, and our concerns that she is a subscriber to the beliefs of Ms. Gilbert would be misfounded -- oh how we pray this is so!!! (BTW, we still have not had contact with the dear person who gave us Ms. Gilbert's book) |
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Mike, I turned onto a road. There was a sign that said "NO WAY OUT". guess what ???
Sometimes, there is really no way out, or one way out.
Walk in Love , Never deny the truth !!!!! |
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January 05, 2008 at 12:08pm |
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| Mike, could you possibly be including in your warning, people who come to your door in pairs wearing white shirts and ties? |
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Gene, I would include in that warning anyone who claims to know a pathway to God other than (or in addition to) simple yet wholehearted belief in the gospel of Jesus Christ, "raised from the dead, descended from David." (2 Tim 2:8) That was good enough for Paul! |
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Cheryl |
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January 05, 2008 at 5:24pm |
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| Still praying for you in the direction to take with this and will pray directly for words and timing. |
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Dear Mike, Thanks (everyone) for this very interesting discussion ... it is always important to read anything with discernment ... as you have done. I love how you care for your friend and you are asking these questions.
The passage you quoted actually sounds a bit like Unitarian theology to me. Though I am not an expert. I do agree that Jesus was a great teacher of peace, and if this passage draws anyone to read the New Testament, I think it is a good thing. Reading a book doesn't mean that you endorse the contents. (as Bacon put it - "Some books are to be tasted, others swallowed, and some few to be chewed and digested.") God bless you!
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"Reading a book doesn't mean that you endorse the contents."
Right-o, June! We couldn't read it all though, it was such nonsense! lol
We've discovered Skype! This means we may get to talk to our dear gift giver directly sooner rather than later, as Skype w/video cam allows you to communicate face to face through your computer. I'm thinking of sending an email first though, asking one or two of the questions mentioned above. Ok, no more updates until after we have "the talk". Thanks for the prayers, suggestions, and encouragement!! |
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Hey Mike Hey Laura.. maybe things have already been set in motion by Him above even as i write..
just prayed for u2 and the person u mentioned.. GO ahead..all the very best man! |
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| DK, thank you so much! You are an encouragement! |
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Eric |
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January 15, 2008 at 9:31am |
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| Hardcore, Mike. My heart sank with yours when I read this blog. I prayed that this book opens up opportunities (plural) for you two to share the True Gospel. |
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