Did Jesus really die for our sins?
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Joh 8:21 Then Jesus said again to them, I go away, and you shall seek Me and shall die in your sins. Where I go, you cannot come.
Joh 8:24 Therefore I said to you that you shall die in your sins, for if you do not believe that I AM, you shall die in your sins.
1Co 15:3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received, that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,
Only Paul seems to mention it once using these words.
"Sacrifice" AND "sin(s)":
Heb 10:12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right of God,
Heb 9:26 (for then He must have suffered often since the foundation of the world), but now once in the end of the world He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.
Have we been taught wrong? Was His sacrifice for us or was it a model?
Heb 10:8 Above, when He said, "Sacrifice and offering, and burnt offerings and offering for sin You did not desire, neither did You have pleasure in them" (which are offered according to the Law),
Heb 10:26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,
I am not changing the text to suit, I am merely offering another emphasis.
Was Jesus' life and subsequent death only a model of what we have to follow? What is the knowledge of the truth?
Did Jesus die to appease an angry God or was His death merely a sign to usher in the outpouring of the Spirit on all flesh as Joel prophesied? Peter seemed to make the connection.(Act 2:14-18,)
What is the knowledge of the truth?
Is it not in fact that the way Jesus showed us to the Father is THE knowledge of the truth?
We have been taught that this abrogated the law putting away blood sacrifice forever but maybe that is as much as what His death meant, the passing of an age.
1Pe 3:21 which figure now also saves us, baptism; not a putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God, by the resurrection of Jesus Christ;
We may spend too much focus at the cross and not enough at the empty tomb, therein lies our hope, not in His death. He lives therefore we have hope.
Did Jesus die to appease an angry God? If Jesus was God incarnate then He sacrificed Himself to appease Himself; kinda weird when you think of it.
If the blood sacrifice of animal did not take away sin, it was an offering, why then would the sacrifice of a man Jesus be better atonement? Was blood sacrifice not very pagan?
Have we not taken the Good News and teach the sacrifice of Jesus aka shedding of His blood for our sins make it seem no less barbaric that that of the pagan religions?
If we hold to the idea He died because of our sins then we will ask questions as to what would be the case had He not died. The fact that He died was irrelevant IMO, however His life and teachings and His subsequent resurrection is where one should focus.
If we believe he came to save us from our sins (Matt 1:21) not to die for them, then we need to ask, have we progressed deeper into the truth w/o considering the real GOOD NEWS?
Father Loves us in spite of us.
Consider then this text:
1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us.
If He died for our sins, why confess them?
Jesus also taught in the Lord's prayer:
Luk 11:4 and forgive us our sins, for we ourselves also forgive everyone who is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
Mat 9:2 And behold, they brought to Him a paralytic, lying on a bed. And Jesus, seeing their faith, said to the paralytic, Child, be of good cheer. Your sins are forgiven you.
Mat 9:3 And lo, some of the scribes said within themselves, This one blasphemes.
Mat 9:4 And Jesus, knowing their thoughts, said, Why do you think evil in your hearts?
Mat 9:5 For which is easier? To say, Your sins are forgiven you, or to say, Arise and walk!
Mat 9:6 But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins, then He said to the paralytic, Arise, take up your bed and go to your house.
We read "Son of God" and "Son of Man" interchangeably but is that correct?
Son5207 of God2316 Son5207 of Man444
Son = hwee-os' used very widely of immediate, remote or figurative kinship: - child, foal, son.
God = theh'-os the supreme Divinity; figuratively a magistrate; by Hebraism very: - X exceeding, God, god.
Man = anth'-ro-pos manfaced, that is, a human being: - certain, man
Joh 1:29 The next day John sees Jesus coming to him and says, Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!
I know there are many texts you all can quote to prove He died for our sins, I am not ignoring those texts. I am asking you to consider what we have been taught.
Sin separates us from God through guilt, it does not mean that sin separates God from us. If that were so, how then would he be able to knock on our hearts door?
How would He do the work of drawing us unto Him? (John 6:44)
In His ministry, Jesus taught us the Love of God when he stated His views on the Law.
Mat 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the Law?
Mat 22:37 Jesus said to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.
The key here is LOVE. The Holy Spirit was upon Jesus and even if He was not God incarnate, He still had the revelation of Father's heart. The Law (other than the 10) was man-made and in them were no life and/or righteousness. Much of the Levitical law dealt with weaknesses of the flesh. Jesus knew this.
So even before Jesus was crucified, He had already shown us the "new way." The way being via Him was not as we have been taught a replacement of the Law, it was the abrogation of the Law (as the Law was powerless unto salvation) and following Jesus means following His teachings and belief in what He taught.
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