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I was soon to be a new mom again... it was Mothers Day 1979... in the evening of what had been a fun packed day. I was in bed for the night, just beginning to pray.
"Oh my God!" I said, shocked and grieved by an awareness of my actions. "I am so sorry Father... I haven't talked with You yet today!!! That is not normal for me! Please forgive me, I really didn't mean to ignore You. I always begin and end my day with You and Jesus, and speak to You throughout it, how could this have happened? How could I have not included YOU in my day?" I could come up with no explanation.
Even so, I continued with immense love, joy and thankfulness in my heart, "It's been a exceptional day... thank You for this experience. I am so grateful for the gift of being a mom and a mom to be. I feel so loved and appreciated by our children. Thank You for our children, I love them so much, they are so very important to me. Thank You and thank You too Jesus for Who You are in my life as well. Father please....." and began to cry out for those in my life were did not yet have an personal, intimate relationship with Him... especially those who were trapped by Satan's snare.... and those who loved darkness rather than light. The heart of my message would have thanked Almighty God for breaking through the darkness with His light... and setting us free from sin... evil... all which once separated us from the unconditional love of God... renounced the works of the flesh which originated through my unredeemed nature and not through Father's leading. I acknowledged I rebuked Satan by turning from him towards God... and told Satan to leave me alone as I thanked the Spirit of the Lord for setting me free... released what I was convicted of... thanked Him for pouring out His spirit on all flesh at Pentecost... thanked Him for continuinig to set us all free, so we might become who HE created us to Be... as His creation... His spiritual family. Blessed Him for it... received the answer by faith in the name of the gospel of Father God and Jesus Christ.
Suddenly I was at Calvary...
Whether I was in my body or out of my body, I did not know, it didn't seem to matter. I did know, this was happening to me.... and it was unexpected.
Instantly I was aware... I was one with Jesus... we were hanging on the cross... in time and eternity. Pure love poured out of Him. Love for His ... our heavenly Father... love for mankind... love for....
He was looking down. I was seeing through His eyes, feeling some of His intense emotions, receiving some of His understanding and revelation knowledge, even though words were never spoken. Although there were many gathered there, they no longer seemed to matter at that moment in time and eternity ... His focus was on His Mother... Mary.
She was looking up... searching for the eyes of her son. I sensed her torment fade.... as their eyes met in this moment I was given the privilege of experiencing. I seemed to be sensing everything flowing through Him.
I am sure Mary was comforting and being comforted by those in grief and confusion around her.... their pain mixed with her own ... for I knew such was nothing compared to the affection and diverse emotions and understanding linking her with Jesus... as she watched Him hanging there, marred beyond belief. Tears on her face were marked by dirt from the dusty road she had walked upon, as she had followed the road to Calvary with Jesus... and others... some of whom were still gathered there, with various emotions of their own.
Although Jesus' flesh was tortured by pain... this pain was nothing compared to what they were experiencing within as their humanity touched. It seemed to ease somewhat as a Spiritual depth of understanding passed between them, an exchange words... mere words cannot describe.
Love for our heavenly Father and one another, HIS love for us... made their aching hearts easier to bear. Jesus understood all... was going to work out for the good and what was... must be. His inner strength flooded me as it seemed to pass on to her.
I with Jesus experienced their affection, their pain... their silent agreement as He communed with her. Their ... our hearts... minds united in time and eternity. Will I ever be able to describe the magnitude of emotion and revelation exchanged? ... I can say, it began with a mutual trust in the goodness of our heavenly Father and HIS eternal plan for HIS creation, HIS Spiritual Family, us ... it began through a united love in Who HE is and was to them ...and is now to us... through the Spiritual Life He ... HE offers ... HE imparts.
They shared this consciousness... of Father's eternal plan for HIS creation. A Spiritual connection and bond, neither suffering, sin nor death could break. A Spiritual connection His death and restored life was destined to offer others.... has offered me... all of us.
The endless love and gratitude in His heart... towards His Mother, for her willingness to surrender to Father's absolute will, Father's destiny for them both, for us all.... overwhelmed me. I realized His gift to each of us... of His bearing the consequences of sin and death through love... on a far, far deeper level within my Spirit, than I could have ever imagined or can attempt to express, even now.
As quickly as I had been taken, I returned ... instantly I found myself once again in my bed, my own face wet with tears... my eternal Soul ... Spirit changed forever. I heard, "You have asked ME if Mary is to be worshipped as it is taught by some. Though she is not to be worshipped, she is indeed to be honored. All who choose to surrender to MY will ... will be honored by ME. Such are worthy of MY Name." www.EnterRest.com |
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The false doctrine that visions and prophecies are for today Bible Answer: a. The Bible says the faith was completed in the days of the apostles (Jude 3). b. The Bible says that the Scriptures are sufficient (2 Tim. 3:16-17). c. The Bible says that Scripture is more sure than visions (2 Pet. 1:16-21). d. The Bible says that prophecies will pass away (1 Cor. 13:8). |
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| We do not live by sight but by faith. Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not see, according to Hebrews 11:1. Since that is true, we can know the following. Faith is a substance, and there is evidence of that substance. I submit to all of you that Jesus, God in the flesh, is that substance, and the evidence is the Bible. Are we Jews? Do we need a sign? No and no, every time you see a sign in the Bible, whether it be tongues or healing you find Jews who require a sign as the Bible says in I Corinthians 1:22. ANY modern day "vision" must be measured against what the Bible teaches. I am not trying to be mean or cruel, but your "vision" does not stand up to this scrutiny. Your vision is filled with emotionalism and not substance. All the substance we need is in the Bible, the Bible is the final authority in all matters of faith and practice, and we do not see any mention of this kind of vision at all in the Bible. There is not a single instance of this type of vision. Visions were not meant to bring us into a closer relationship with God, but they were used to revel God's plan and will to prophets and apostles. You never see a woman having a vision in the Bible except the witch of Endor who clearly used a demon to conjure the spirit of Samuel for Saul. This would be the closest thing to a vision had by a woman in scripture that I am aware of. Also the Bible teaches us to test the spirits whether they be of God I John 4:1-2. I am sure you did not have a "vision" from God, because God who is the same yesterday, today, and forever has never worked through visions for the purpose you describe. Furthermore God has never worked through visions with women, that I can see. |
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| Thank you for sharing this. I don't know why anyone would have a problem with what your experience. I had some of this experienced myself, and anyone who hasn't been brainwashed by the traditions of men can see that the scriptures see them as a normal part of a believers life. Just like you I am so grateful that our Abba Father has poured out His Holy Spirit upon all flesh-men and women (the result being prophecies, visions and dreams). I love the scriptures, because they lead us to Christ, Who is the Truth, and I've got several translations and versions on my bookshelf. But in the end, Jesus didn't say He would send us a book after His depature. Thank you for standing up for a close relationship with the Holy Spirit, Who is our true Teacher, Best Friend, and the Inheritance of every believer. |
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This book, the Bible, testifies of Christ and has the whole counsel of God. Your experience no matter how real you think it is, does not compare with what is in the Bible. I do not trust in an experience which is subject to my interpretation or your different interpretation, but I trust in what God gave us to revel himself to us which was the Bible not the Holy Spirit.
God gave us the Holy Spirit to indwell us, seal us, baptize us into the church (not to speak in tongues, have visions, heal, and do other miracles), convict us, fill us for service for God, but God did not give us the Holy Spirit as our inheritance. Our inheritance is eternal life, the Holy Spirit is the earnest of our inheritance in Christ according to Ephesians 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
The Holy Spirit inspired Paul an apostle of Jesus to write that truth, but there are no more apostles, and there is no further revelation coming. We have it all right now in the Bible. It is by the tradition of men that we now have a world that treats God like some kind of genie and treats the Holy Spirit as some kind of magic device. The Bible is God's revelation and the FINAL authority the ONLY authority for all matters of faith and practice. If you study it out you will see that I am telling the truth. |
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To Bro_Little and Brad
The Body of Christ is led by its head, whom is Jesus Christ. All scripture is profitable, but scripture is not our head, Christ is. He is the light, the way, and the life.
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
You say no more revelation is given Bro_little, and yet it is the very scripture which speaks that we are to be led by the Spirit of Truth into all truth and that we shall be shown things to come.
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
And if the Spirit of truth shows us things to come and guides us into all truth, then whats the problem? Why the attack on one whom is sharing? Nothing she has shared contradicts any part of the Word anyway.
quote Brad G
b. The Bible says that the Scriptures are sufficient (2 Tim. 3:16-17).
Actually 2 Tim 3:16-17 say this:
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
I agree that the Word is profitable for all these things, but I am not a servant of the Word, I am a servant of God and our Lord Jesus Christ.
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The Body of Christ is led by its head, whom is Jesus Christ. All scripture is profitable, but scripture is not our head, Christ is. He is the light, the way, and the life.
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Yes Christ is the head of the church, and God has given us the Bible as our handbook. We are given illumination by the Holy Spirit to understand scripture which is the final and only authority for all matters of faith and practice.
You say no more revelation is given Bro_little, and yet it is the very scripture which speaks that we are to be led by the Spirit of Truth into all truth and that we shall be shown things to come.
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Yes that is correct the revelation ended when John wrote The Revelation of Jesus Christ. In John 16 Jesus is not addressing modern day Christians or even first century Christians, but Jesus is addressing the apostles. This was not written to you, but it was written for you. It was the men who wrote the New Testament that were saw the things to come. It was these men who were guided into all truth, and they wrote it down for our use. Now we have a more sure word than visions, dreams and signs. We have the written voice of God. Yes Jesus said he was the way, truth, life, door, bread of life, and good shepherd but don't forget he is also the word.
And if the Spirit of truth shows us things to come and guides us into all truth, then whats the problem? Why the attack on one whom is sharing? Nothing she has shared contradicts any part of the Word anyway.
The Holy Spirit showed the apostles not us, since that is the fact their is a big problem with what was shared here. I am not attacking, please don't misunderstand. I am trying to correct error. She does contradict scripture because we never see a woman having a vision. We also never have an instance in the scripture of someone possessing another. We only have demons possessing people. We certainly never have an example of someone possessing God himself. That cannot and does not and will never happen. This "vision" therefore is not only un-scriptural but is blasphemous. She has attributed to God things that God would never do. Mary, while she was certainly a virtuous woman did not have some special spiritual connection with Christ. She is in no way a kind of co-redemptrix as the Catholics would teach, and she is not to be revered as anything other than an obedient servant of God.
quote Brad G
b. The Bible says that the Scriptures are sufficient (2 Tim. 3:16-17).
Actually 2 Tim 3:16-17 say this:
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
I agree that the Word is profitable for all these things, but I am not a servant of the Word, I am a servant of God and our Lord Jesus Christ.
You are not dealing with the truth that Brad brought out in this scripture. The Bible says that the Bible is sufficient. We are to follow Christ, who is God, but where do we learn of Christ? The Scripture. The Bible says that in Christ is all wisdom and knowledge, in Col. 2 and Christ is the Word. So in the Word is all wisdom and knowledge, and when you are following the Word, you are following God!
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| I am sorry Bro_Little that I didn't use the right terminology. Of yourse the Holy Spirit is the earnest of our inheritance (what then is the fullness of it? Hmm, good question.Sorry got off track.) and not our inheritance itself. Note that I never said that the Holy Spirit came so we could talk about fruits, gifts and tongues, but to lead us into all Truth. And Truth is a Person, namely Jesus Christ. I don't build my theology on experiences by the way. But the scriptures, which you say contain the whole counsel of God, tell us how the life of a believer looks like, and that includes experiences with the Holy Spirit. Note, I am not saying that a certain experience (whatever that may be) makes one spiritual mature. But the scripture mention nowhere that it is no longer possible to experince the Hols Spirit as a Person, or that He has been taken away from the earth. One needs to read this into the text. To say that one hasn't had any experience of this sort of relationship is again to make an argument based on experience (or the lack of it). Eternla Life is to know our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ, not a book (and I say that with the highest esteem for the scriptures. Please hear my heart! I am not saying they are not important or that I place my experience upon them). Fact is that the pharisees knew the scriptures from the heart, from beginning to end, and still could not see Christ right in front of them. How did Peter find out that Jesus is the Christ? "not flesh and blood have revealed this to you, but My Father Who is in Heaven". The Bible is not a rulebook to tell us what we should or shouldn't do, or a lifes manual to make us successful in our christian walk, but rather it is a Loveletter from our Heavenly Father to reveal His Son to and finally in us. So again, I love the scriptures, because the enable me to hear my Abba Father's Voice and they testify of Him Who is my life-Christ. |
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| By the way the scriptures themselves tell us that the Word of God is a Person, not a book. But that doesn't mean that they are not inspired by the Holy Spirit. Its just means they are the means by which the Word of God (Christ) comes to us. |
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By the way I am quoting you directly from your post and I am putting your comments in blue because I want to directly answer your post.
...what then is the fullness of it? Hmm, good question.Sorry got off track.
Of course we are joint heirs with Christ of eternal life and a new glorified body according to Romans 8 and I Corinthians 15. The Holy Spirit is a down payment for these things and this is realized through His ministry in our lives. Namely the sealing of the Spirit, the baptism of the Spirit which places us into the body of Christ, and the indwelling of the Spirit.
Note that I never said that the Holy Spirit came so we could talk about fruits, gifts and tongues, but to lead us into all Truth
Correct, and the Holy Spirit has lead us into all truth, and that is found in the 66 books of the Bible. Jesus was speaking to the specific men who would later pen what the Holy Spirit inspired them to write. What Jesus said in John 16 is not to us but is for our understanding. There is a great difference. Jesus commanded all of the disciples to go into all the world and preach the gospel, but he was only speaking to the apostles when he said that the Holy Spirit would guide them into all truth.
I don't build my theology on experiences by the way. But the scriptures, which you say contain the whole counsel of God, tell us how the life of a believer looks like, and that includes experiences with the Holy Spirit.
I am glad that you clarified that you do not build your theology by experience. But the author of this blog sure does, and that is what is in question here. Do you deny that the scriptures contain the whole counsel of God? The Bible gives us instruction on how to live a victorious Christian life, and that most certainly can only be accomplished with the Holy Spirit, but the Bible is quite clear about the ministry of the Spirit, which I have briefly outlined in this and other posts. The Holy Spirit does not give us visions to further revel God to us, that is never seen in scripture therefore it does not happen. God spoke through visions to prophets and apostles, neither of which are alive today. These things were written down for our use, the revelation is complete.
But the scripture mention nowhere that it is no longer possible to experince the Hols Spirit as a Person, or that He has been taken away from the earth. One needs to read this into the text. To say that one hasn't had any experience of this sort of relationship is again to make an argument based on experience (or the lack of it).
We certainly do experience the Holy Spirit, especially when we are under conviction for sin. The Holy Spirit also prompts us to obey God, and to submit to God. But you cannot have an audible conversation with the Spirit. You do not touch Him or shake hands with Him, He indwells your spirit. He is not tangible in a physical manner. We are absolutely not supposed to read into the text of the Bible never ever never never. We are to understand what is already there. When you read into it you are opening yourself for error which has been substantially demonstrated for all of us in this blog. I want to know what God said, not what you think He meant. When you or I force our thoughts into scripture we are making a mistake. God wants us to know what He has said, God does not want us to read into what He has said. I am not making an argument based on lack of experience, but I am making an argument based on the Bible. You never find this type of vision anywhere in the Bible. Where you do find this type of vision is in drug induced American Indian religious rituals, and far eastern religious rituals, but never in the Bible. In fact I challenge you to find an instance in the Bible that is remotely similar to what is described in this blog.
Eternla Life is to know our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ, not a book (and I say that with the highest esteem for the scriptures. Please hear my heart! I am not saying they are not important or that I place my experience upon them). Fact is that the pharisees knew the scriptures from the heart, from beginning to end, and still could not see Christ right in front of them. How did Peter find out that Jesus is the Christ? "not flesh and blood have revealed this to you, but My Father Who is in Heaven". The Bible is not a rulebook to tell us what we should or shouldn't do, or a lifes manual to make us successful in our christian walk, but rather it is a Loveletter from our Heavenly Father to reveal His Son to and finally in us. So again, I love the scriptures, because the enable me to hear my Abba Father's Voice and they testify of Him Who is my life-Christ.
Eternal life is the result of knowing God through the gift of God which is Jesus. Jesus propitiated God on the cross. That is Jesus paid the price required by God for the sin of man. Only Jesus could do this because Jesus is God. As a reward for trusting Christ we are given eternal life, which will be spent serving God. We have eternal life as a present possession, and not a future promise. Our serving God should begin here in this earth according to Eph. 2:10.
Yes the Pharisees did know the scripture and read into them what they wanted. That is why divorce was rampant among them. They twisted the scripture and so they missed Christ just like many well intentioned folks do in this day. But there were some who knew exactly what they were doing and were evil men who loved the riches of this world more than they cared for God. Just like many of the men and women who claim to be ministers in this day.
God reveled Jesus to Peter just like He reveled Jesus to everyone. Peter believed God and that made all the difference. God had this account written down by Matthew so that we could see it as well. God is not speaking through visions today because we have the Bible.
The Bible is a rule book to tell us what to do, and it is a life manual to tell us how to live and it is a love letter to us from God, because it is God revealing Himself to man. This is why it is vitally important not to ever read into what God has said. We must understand what is already there.
By the way the scriptures themselves tell us that the Word of God is a Person, not a book. But that doesn't mean that they are not inspired by the Holy Spirit. Its just means they are the means by which the Word of God (Christ) comes to us.
Yes that is it. The Bible is the means by which we understand Christ. The Bible is the evidence which substatiates our faith. God does not require us to have blind faith, but has given us the evidence to trust Him and have faith in Christ.
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I keep this short. The Truth is Jesus Christ Himself, not the Bible. Jesus told us that in the same conversation He had with the disciples: "I AM the Truth". The Holy Spirit came to lead us into Christ, to let us partake of all that He has with the Father, for He is the Spirit of Truth. Truth in scripture means Reality. Jesus did not die to appeas an angry god, but to reconcile us with our Heavenly Father. It wasn't Him Who needed to be reconciled, because He never changes, and is always the same. The idea that our Heavenly Father needed to be appeased came into the church through Augustine and Tertullian, and roman law. The eastern tradition of the church never held to that concept. Eternal Life is not a reward for trusting, but a gift. When the scriptures speak about rewards, they speak about coming to the place where we know Christ, just as He knows us. If the Bible is a rule book, why did Ezekiel prophecy that the law will be written on our hearts? |
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Sometimes, in fact, most of the time we make having a relationship with God an almost impossible task by trying to figure out all the details of the Bible. We can do this, but we can't do that.......this is lawful or that is a sin, etc.
What Jesus said to us is simple, that we can become one with the Father, just as He is one with the Father. To accomplish this we turn our heart over to God who then puts His Spirit within us. Once the Spirit has entered we start thinking differently because this new mind is speaking to us internally. Change comes from within. The change in thinking is life long to accomplish.
There are two minds, then: Mind of the flesh and the mind of the Spirit.
The mind of the flesh interprets words written by the Spirit according to natural precepts. How else can one who has only the mind of the flesh think since he is alienated from the Spirit of God?
Here's an example....When Jesus questioned his disciples, asking them who men thought that he was, his disciples answered several things....some say that you are John the Baptist, some say one of the prophets, etc. But Peter says, "You are the Christ, the son of the living God"...Jesus responds " Blessed are you Simon, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but your Father in Heaven"...And I say that you are Peter, and upon this rock will I build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it."
The mind of the flesh reads this and determines that Peter is the rock upon which Jesus is going to build his church.
The mind of the Spirit reads this and sees that, obviously, revelation from the Father is the thing upon which Jesus will build his church.
It's not what is written, but how the writing is interpreted.
I once knew a man who lived on a mountain and loved to talk about God. He welcomed all comers if they wanted to have a spiritual meeting with him. He wanted to meet with folks who wanted to meet with God.
His driveway was long and hunters also would use his drive to gain access to other parts of the mountain. He didn't want hunters to enter but welcomed the other type. He couldn't put up no tresspassing signs....that would prohibit everyone so I suggested he make a sign that said this" If you pass this sign, be prepared to meet your Maker."
The hunter reads the sign and turns back thinking someone might shoot him, but the one who wants to meet God proceeds encouraged by the sign.
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Quote Brad G. - - my (arcticmonster2003) comments in orange
The false doctrine that visions and prophecies are for today Bible Answer: a. The Bible says the faith was completed in the days of the apostles (Jude 3). Jude 1:3 ¶Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
It would appear to me that he is exhorting them that they should earnestly contend for the faith which was delivered unto the saints. I'm not sure what point you were trying to make here concerning HSW's post.
b. The Bible says that the Scriptures are sufficient (2 Tim. 3:16-17). 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
The word sufficient isn't even used in these verses Brad, nor a similiar word.
c. The Bible says that Scripture is more sure than visions (2 Pet. 1:16-21). 2 Peter 1:16 ¶For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
19 ¶We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Actually he said no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation, it really can only be understood by relevation from the Holy Spirit, that what was prophecied can only be revealed (revelation) by the Holy Sprit. One would even need a revelation from the Holy Spirit just to understand at all, the Revelation of John.
d. The Bible says that prophecies will pass away (1 Cor. 13:8).
1 Corinthians 13:8 ¶Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
I think the whole point is that charity never faileth. As pertaining to this verse:
1 Corinthians 13:1 ¶Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
What do you make of these verses:
1 Corinthians 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
12 ¶For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
14 For the body is not one member, but many.
15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
16 And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?
18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.
Are you saying that just because she isn't an arm, that she isn't part of the body? Or are you saying that it is not possible that god could have given her a vision?
Joel 2:28 ¶And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
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EXPLOSIVE CHURCH
2nd February, 2008
Lana Vawser
sparkalina@gmail.com
No one is going to stop My Church from moving forward. No one can
stop My Church from being transformed into all I am calling her to
be. For it is by My Spirit that I mould and shape the Bride to be
perfect, pure and spotless.
It is not by the power of man, for what is his power, compared to the
power of the Almighty? I, the Lord thy God, am calling for My Church
to stand tall and to allow the explosions that are beginning to
manifest. I am now releasing many explosions upon My Churches. It is
happening within individual hearts, within congregations and in
relationships, and it is defying the bounds of what 'man' has called
Church and what 'man' has called My Bride.
The explosion has already started. This is not an explosion causing
havoc and destruction to My Church, but it is an explosion to bring
life BACK to My Church. It is an explosion that is going to teach My
Church how to move in the ways I have created her to move in. Signs,
wonders, the miraculous and major moves of My Spirit, will be like
the Acts based Church.
My Church, for too long you have been STUCK. For too long you have
been STUCK in the mud of 'man made boundaries' and it is now time to
move AWAY from what man tells you and listen to what I, the Lord thy
God, am speaking to you.
I am taking many in a direction that may be looked upon by the
religious as wrong or demonic. But the direction I am taking many, is
in line with My Word. I never move outside My Word, but I will defy
all laws of legalism and 'the way things are done' mentalities.
My explosive Church belongs OUTSIDE, it is not to remain inside its
confines. It is to explode forth into all areas of this world. When an
explosion occurs in the natural, debris goes flying for long
distances.
This is what I am doing now within My Church, but there must be those
within My Bride who are willing to let go of what the natural mind
says and move forward.
Move forward in ways that might not make sense, but is completely and
totally from Me. Many will move jobs, towns, nations - and see these
moves as not 'logical' but are totally anointed and totally covered
by My Spirit.
The explosions are starting within by those who are truly hungry for
Me and are coming to Me and eating deeply from the manna that I am
releasing from heaven. They are not feasting on the world and all it
has to offer, but they are continually walking in humility,
surrendering to Me. They know I am all they need.
My people are not dancing with the world or the enemy, but
relinquishing their rights to delight in whatever they choose. It is
by those who are truly desperate coming to seek My heart, not once a
month, but daily. Daily they are coming to listen to My voice and
move inline with My Spirit.
Too many within My Bride today are moving inline with their desires.
They are moving inline with what is comfortable or what "man made"
rules are telling them, not what I the Lord thy God am saying through
My Spirit and in My Word.
It is time for the Church to EXPLODE.
The Church has not exploded. I am a God of BIG things, and I am about
to light the match. I have already lighted the match on some hearts.
When the flame hits their hearts, what an explosion shall erupt forth.
There will be signs and wonders, prophetic declarations, sermons
dripping with the liquid of My Spirit. The Church will truly move
from lying dormant into rising to all I am calling her to be.
It is all going to bubble forth from those within My Church that are
moving forward, those who are willing to lay down everything for Me
daily, those who are willing to sacrifice their time, security and
money to invest into My Kingdom and My people, without looking at
their 'gain'.
It is time My Bride! It is time to stop fighting against My Spirit by
holding to "man made" laws and religious ideas, RELEASE these ideas
and move into the supernatural. Move into the "unknown" even if you
do not completely understand, move forward because you have felt the
whisper of My Spirit telling you to go forth. Do not wait for the
lightening bolt, but move
forward in faith.
Follow My Spirit and put yourselves in the position to EXPLODE! My
Spirit WILL explode through you as you press deeper into intimate
relationship with Me, and as you do, you will affect ALL around you.
Many are just 'waiting' and not taking the 'leap' forward in all I am
calling them too. They hold back because of fear, or anxiety or
doubt, but once that 'leap' is taken, the EXPLOSION will occur.
Now, My Bride, Now!
LEAP!
You are not leaping in your own strength. You are leaping CARRIED by
My Spirit. When My Spirit carries you, will you ever fall. |
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| Great blog. I see you have many comments, so I'll just comment on the last thing you said in blog about Mary. Yes, I believe she is to be honored, not worshipped. She certainly was very special to have been chosen to bear the Saviour but she is not the Saviour. |
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