One cannot define sin without the law(s) removing subjectivity of the law and interpretations of the law(s) is an object lesson.

So why did Jesus come? If you look up save in the NT the 1st verse you get is this:

Mat 1:21 And she shall bear a son, and you shall call His name JESUS: for He shall save His people from their sins.

It does not say save from hell, save from judgement, merely save from sins.

Now we all know, post Jesus, sin still exists as defined by the law. We have been indoctrinated with the fallacy of the original sin of Adam which we somehow inherit genetically and hence we need a Saviour to change all that. We go through the motions of a sinner's prayer and maybe even experience a re-birth of sorts. We are baptised and are told, we bury Adam and stand up in newness with Christ, yet sin remains. So it looks like we did not drown Adam after all.

The original sin.

Traditionally, this is when Adam partook of the forbidden fruit and I guess most folk see the fruit as literal or partly symbolic. Usually the teaching focuses on disobedience and we take it Adam was made righteous and fell from grace when he was disobedient. Not True

I will cite scripture when necessary.

God commanded Adam not to eat of the tree of knowledge of Good & Evil, there was no command as to the tree of life. If you read carefully, God caused all the trees to grow and there was also the two other trees.

We take the original sin to mean "eating of the fruit" when "commanded not to". For me to get my point over, I need to offer alternative words for eat of. I will use dwell on.

The clue is found in what Adam did next. Taking matters into his own hands, he made aprons to hide his nudity and hid away from God - GUILT.

God comes as He always did in the cool of the day looking for Adam. At this part of the story, why would God call out to Adam? He knew what he had done, He is Omniscient, Omnipresent yet calls our "Adam, where are you."

When Adam reveals himself, God does not condemn him, He asks 2 questions:

Who told you, you were naked?
Did you eat of the fruit I commanded you not to eat of?

Disobedience was one of the original sins, however, the 2nd sin was Adam took matters into his own hands. They did something wrong in their eyes and I am guessing the clue lies with Eve.

Let us forgo the serpent as literal for a moment. Eve is alone, she knows either by command from God or Adam she also knew not to eat thereof and in fact not even to touch it. She gives into her desires, and partakes and encourages Adam to do the same. And all of a sudden their eyes are opened. Opened to what? Do you really think that it was their nakedness?

They now became aware of the knowledge of Good and Evil. It was predestined that this would happen. God did not place that tree there w/o a purpose, it was not a temptation. That tree is symbolic of what we all have in us, the ability to learn Good from Evil, Light from Darkness et al.

Do not eat of it = do not dwell on it. It was not satan that made them fall as a 3rd person, it was their carnal flesh, called intuition, called inquisitiveness, all natural traits we are born with.

Sin is our tutor.

When God came looking after the "fall", nothing had changed for God, He still reached out and came into the presence of the Garden. He still desired fellowship. Adam had discovered EGO. He became egocentric, what ever he had done did not change the status quo with God, God was not affected by what they did, He did not suddenly change into an Ogre, sadly that is how we are taught He is. So the focus from Adam's perspective was on self and no longer on God. God knew what had happened and it was part of His plan. Also part of His plan was the tree of life, in fact that tree also exists in us from birth.

We are told He never leaves us nor forsakes us, it rains on the just and unjust, He is no respecter of persons etc. It thus stands to reason that our sin does not move God whatsoever. He still desires relationship and He never once failed on His part.

You find a clue in Genesis 4 when God spoke with Cain.

Gen 4:3 And in the end of days, it happened, Cain brought to Jehovah an offering of the fruit of the ground.
Gen 4:4 And Abel also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat of it. And Jehovah had respect to Abel and to his offering,

The only difference was as I have highlighted. It is not symbolic of the blood sacrifice vs the crops Cain brought. Had Cain brought the firstfruits, his offering would have been equal. Symbolic of this is also the regard Abel had of God and the regard Cain had of God. One was 1st on the list and the other was on the list.

Gen 4:5 but He did not have respect to Cain and to his offering. And Cain glowed with anger, and his face fell.
Gen 4:6 And Jehovah said to Cain, Why have you angrily glowed? And why did your face fall?

Notice here the admonition. Same as with Adam, no condemnation, just questions

Gen 4:7a If you do well, shall you not be accepted?

Gen 4:7b And if you do not do well, sin crouches at the door; and its desire is for you, and you shall rule over it.

Here is the crux. God does not say if you do not do well, it is sin.

Let me rephrase the last part:

and its desire is for you (you will become sin focused), and you shall rule over it (you will invent laws to govern it).

Thus sin is ruled by law and law feeds off sin. In effect, the more sin focused you are, the further you walk away from the Father. He never walks away from you.

When Cain was banished after killing Abel, no one was allowed to touch him. If his sin was so horrific, he would have been smitten there and then.
 

Recall vs. Reconciliation

The Father was able at the 1st occurrence to wipe the slate clean, do a recall and start over again, yet He did not do that. He knew what He was doing and when Adam and Eve exercised their God given right to procreate, delegated to them by God, God never intervened - the plan moved forward.

Now if you cannot see this simple truth, then however you read the rest of the bible will be tainted and that unfortunately is what has happened over the millenia.

I have not addressed the curses, there is an article on my blog at MyChurch where I discuss this and show it actually is a blessing.

FF to Moses and we get the 10 laws. Very simple and really if you think about it at least 6 are built into most constitutions world-wide, even adultery is as least covered in civil laws. That leaves only three, worshipping the true God and the sabbath but even the sabbath, is in a way a day of rest in many countries. That leaves two maybe?

Now I am not sure if you have ever noticed, the way Jesus summarized the Law is nowhere to be found in the 10 anywhere. Makes one think eh?

Look it up Exodus 20 or Deuteronomy 5 then compare it to:

Mat 22:37 Jesus said to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.

Nowhere in the 10 commandments does it say we are to love our neighbor as ourselves, in fact even the first one is paraphrased. Strange the gatekeepers of Moses' law never challenged Jesus on this?

Was Jesus trying to tell/show us something?

Most accept this verbatim and never look at the details.

Back to the original sin.

I hope you can see now, even what we assume to be the original sin is questionable. We can only surmise what it actually was, I have heard many ideas - we do not know yet we base a whole theological bias based upon a wrong interpretation. It is not eating of fruit. Yet......

FF to the NT. We see the two trees mentioned again and in fact it comes up also as wheat and tares, sweet and bitter spring, a tongue that both blesses and curses. All of these are taught wrong. Even in one occurence when a blind manwas touched he saw men as trees - I wonder what was the significance to this?

Both trees exist in us simultaneously but neither bring forth opposite fruit. The good tree (ToL) brings forth good fruit and the other (ToKoG&E) bad fruit. If you can see this then maybe you may see where or how sin still exists after your rebirth/baptism.

When we receive our breath of life at birth (His Spirit), that is of the Father and in that is the ToL. We are born with the other tree in us, it is our nature, it is our tutor, it is there for a reason, hence that is why it never goes away.

In Adam's "fallen" state, he had to be removed from the garden to not eat of the ToL. A process had kicked off for mankind to procreate and learn.

Ultimately Jesus would come and the time He came was when primitive technology was there to take the message of the gospel to all nations via the then Roman empire. (another topic)

Man became so egocentric and eventually still in the fallen state wanted to reconcile (in the flesh) to God, his Creator. Enter the law(s). This did not cut it as all that the law(s) did was keep folk in a state of oblations and sacrifice for sins, guilt appeasement. Appease your guilt and you will still sin but now there is a system of dealing with it.

The law and sin feed off each other. They are mutually co-dependent.

This is called religion.

In all religions there is a benevolent god but one that requires some form of punishment and judgment even Christendom.

From day 1, God (the Father) has not changed. Jesus who knew the Father's heart intimately revealed this to us. He would die for this revelation.

I have said many times, sin is no biggie for the Father and still is no biggie. What we do does not affect the Father. Some are of the opinion that we hurt God when we sin - wrong - we only hurt ourselves. It is this hurt that the Father sees and is perhaps concerned with. Just like Adam, He calls out, "Adam where are you?"

Most are in fig leaf aprons of law and works missing the the true relationship with the Father.

We are so indoctrinated that we are not able to enter in in this sinful state and then the Jesus story is used to defer the sin to the cross. It still does not make you feel closer to God knowing this does it?

No!

You are all still managing sin with law and hence remain in the flesh, thus you eat of/dwell upon the wrong tree. The ToL is where the answer lies and it is of that tree we must partake, that brings forth good fruit. We slip and fall and do sometimes eat of the wrong tree, hence the fruit is bad.

The wrong tree has the law we invent to try and do good in the flesh. All the while the Father cries out, "Adam, where are you?" yes Adam, the fallen one, the fleshly one, the hopeless one, the pathetic one, the (.........insert all you were taught of how bad we are) That is the person God calls out to not the ToL in us. The longer you dwell on the wrong tree, the longer you bring forth tares and bitter water. There are many scrips I can quote to confirm this.

It is not an us and them, it is us and us only.

Now what am I trying to say that sin is no biggie? Is it thus OK to sin? No!

If I can sum it up like this:

The closer you move towards the Father (ToL) the further you walk away from sin (ToKoG&E).

This is the message Jesus taught, Father's Love (Unconditional)

Here is a shock. Unconditional Love requires no sacrifice for sin, no animals, neither the death of Jesus. It also requires no hell as punishment.

In this age, it is sufficient, we suffer the consequences of our sins, be it guilt, rejection or even punishment if it is a law of the land you break.

Does that mean then we ignore what Jesus did? No!

We are made to feel so rotten about ourselves that we see ourselves holding the hammer in one hand and a spear in the other hand and in effect that we individually nailed Jesus to the cross and that we pierced His side.

Jesus said:

Joh 8:15 You judge after the flesh, I judge no one.
Joh 8:16 And yet if I do judge, My judgment is true; for I am not alone, but I and the Father who sent Me.

How many more scrips are there that show the same? The only ones Jesus judged was the religious. He used their subjective law(s) and turned it against them.

Jesus came to show us to take our focus off sin and the law that judged it. Jesus was not a legalist. Law and Grace do not mix hence today what most espouse is little more than half truths and a half truth is a lie.

When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change

The first "Yes but...." thought that comes to your mind, think about it. You are taking a bias you were brought up with to argue against what I have just shared. Of course you are entitled to your POV just as I am.

This is not a "feel-good" doctrine, in fact it is not a doctrine at all. It does however challenge the way we think and what we think we know.

I can hear your thoughts

What about the flood?
What about Sodom and Gomorrah?
What about the law?
What about death of Jesus on the Cross?
Is everything we know wrong?

This is how I view sin.
 

Sin focus is always subjective and 37000 "truths" exist and maybe even as many as 6.7Bn - all subjective. Hence:

Luk 6:35 But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing in return. And your reward shall be great, and you shall be the sons of the Highest. For He is kind to the unthankful and to the evil.
Luk 6:36 Therefore be merciful, even as your Father is merciful.
Luk 6:37 Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you shall be forgiven.
Luk 6:38 Give, and it shall be given to you, good measure pressed down and shaken together and running over, they shall give into your bosom. For with the same measure that you measure, it shall be measured to you again.

The only common thing that is objective is God Loves us Unconditionally. Any "yes but..." make it conditional. It is hard for us to accept Unconditional Love as our love is always conditional carnally speaking.

We have no words to describe this AwesomeLove.

Folk mention White and Black. I say both will show off different colors. Hence absolute evil "exposes" goodness while absolute holiness "exposes" evil. Opposites teach us of opposites.

W/O evil how would we discern goodness and visa versa? That is the tree of KoG&E, we are not to eat of it, touch it, dwell on it. There is no life found in self management however religious it seems.

Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 But the Law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.

We are no longer bound to laws and man-made doctrines

Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh;
Rom 8:4 so that the righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
Rom 8:5 For they who are according to the flesh mind the things of flesh, but they who are according to the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

This blue part to me really reveals all those that condemn others sinfulness like homo bashers etc.

Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace

Carnality leads only to death - that includes judging others based on a religious bias

Rom 8:7 because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the Law of God, neither indeed can it be.
Rom 8:8 So then they who are in the flesh cannot please God.
Rom 8:9 But (IF) you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone has not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His.

I modified the above with IF. Ironic how when we do judge where does that place us Spirit or Flesh?

Rom 8:10 And if Christ is in you, indeed the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of the One who raised up Jesus from the dead dwells in you, the One who raised up Christ from the dead shall also make your mortal bodies alive by His Spirit who dwells in you.

This is not about the hereafter - it is about NOW

Rom 8:12 Therefore, brothers, we are not debtors to the flesh, to live according to the flesh.
Rom 8:13 For if you live according to the flesh, you shall die. But if you through the Spirit mortify the deeds of the body, you shall live.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Rom 8:15 For you have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption by which we cry, Abba, Father!

In fact the whole chapter is applicable.

Eat thus of the Tree of Life, the Christ in you.

Blessings

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