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Doyle Crowe
February 11, 2008
 God Bless You Always, The Lord always start with one or two people and they reach the rest I think He does that so we fellowship with one another and end up being in fellowship with all our Brothers and Sisters with our Heavenly Father in one big party that last forever. God Bless,Doyle.
Kathy
February 11, 2008
"Oh if every writer were a reader too!"  Mike, I think you packed a lot of "the answer" in this one sentence.  We all want to be heard and don't understand why thousands are not flocking to read our blogs, when the reality is they don't know about them and are short on time they can spend on MyChurch.  As you pointed out there are thousands of others who are writing and wanting to be read, and we have to ask ourselves "Do I expect others to want to read my blogs when there are hundreds of blogs daily that I don't read?"  I too wish I had time to read more, and when I miss a blog, it's not because I don't care about the person who wrote it.

I haven't figured out the What's Fresh system either, but like you, I begin there when I log on.
DeboraJ
February 11, 2008
:)
Donna S
February 11, 2008
Thanks , as i try to hit as many of the friends blogs as i can, but not all show up so that means I have to go to each persons page and see if they posted anything new.
when i got ot whats fresh page, as u stated it is the same people....
I love reading and getting to knows those friends i added, but then not al are faithful bloggers and some just com to read.....
I read what i can, leave a message if possible and GRATEFUL for you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Mike have a Blessed day.
God Bless
LorenDP
February 11, 2008
I try to hit the Explore blogs section several times a day. that's how I've come to meet some or most of my MyChurch friends list.
Charlie  Jackson
February 11, 2008
Mike - excellent points as usual!  I just wanted to write that "I feel you Dog"!  :-)
Steve Simms
February 11, 2008
I really enjoy the Explore section.  I've discovered a lot of good things there, Mike.  I tend to focus on the things that speak most to me.  There is a lot of good on mychurch but none of us can consume it all.  I guess we each need to let God lead us to the blogs and people that He wants us to connect with.  Good, thought provoking post worthy of a star.
Kathy
February 11, 2008
Donna, you can subscribe to their blogs, then just click on subscriptions to see what has been posted.  Takes much less time.   :)
Cheryl
February 11, 2008
Great blog!  I have not quite figured out the explore section yet but, I promise to try and find time to learn it.  The fresh section is what I look at first and I don't think I am getting notices on all myfriends blogs.  I agree, I (we) are missing out on great friends out there by not leaving our "fresh" world!
Coreena
February 11, 2008
Mike, I too am limited for time.  When I have more time I do check out the explore option.  For now I am doing my best to read my friends blogs and respond if there is time--even if it is just a star to let them know I am with them.  Many days it is hard enough just keeping up with that.  I appreciate this blog.  It has really touched a cord with me! 

I promise I’ll find the time to bust out of my “What’s Fresh” clique and learn more about what the MyChurch world has to offer. For now though, please forgive and bear with me (and others) who, due to shortness of time or other reasons, find themselves limited to friends first!  ME TOO!
Sue
February 11, 2008
If I am not mistaken, I think your local church friends have a huge priority in the What's Fresh section.  I also think that if you are subscribed to a blog, it will have a greater chance of showing up there.  And if Mike n Laura are in your church....be on the look out for your What's Fresh section to be over-taken by comments, when they add a post to the church blog!  Totally messing with you dude!  You know you are one of my favorite peoples :)
Pastor_Ken_and_Aminata
February 11, 2008
Mike,

I so agree, it's hard to keep up with just my friend list.... but I do try to reach out to others as well.  Thanks for the reminder to go above and beyond.

Pastor Aminata
Dave Hamm
February 11, 2008
I hear you, Mike! Beautifully written, always true and straight from the heart. Dave
Eric
February 11, 2008
The "Explore" section of MySpace has much to be desired.  It's so darn hard to search for a variety of blogs besides those that have action in the past 5 minutes.
mstovall2003
February 11, 2008
I try to touch on Mychurch everyday, but it is becoming increasingly harder with a heavier workload and other pressing matters (like everyday life) LOL... I try to go to the explore section often but it usually shows the same people over and over again ????  Then I go to the people section and again the same thing....  I have made quite a few friends from those sections, however most of my friends come the pages I know of (thanks guys)...  I try to post something at least 3-4 times a week as the Holy Spirit inspire me.  I feel as time goes by the site will improve more and more, thanks to the GREAT people who put it together.

Love you guys
Mike n Laura
February 11, 2008
Does anyone else find it interesting that once you start plugging in, making friends, and benefitting yourself/others on this site, your schedule then starts to crowd out your time on here? Don't know if this is really true for many, just seems like it to me. I guess I'm thinking, Satan has a way of adjusting to compensate for the things we find effective at bringing us closer to God and others.
Kathy
February 11, 2008
Eric joggled something in me.  Although I can't give enough kudos to the MyChurch techies, if I could make one change it would be in the blogs.  First, I'd like to see a one-click route to the blogs, as I suspect our many members who are less savy with computer networks, as are many in my own church, don't know how to find the blogs (and don't even know what they don't know how to find). I'd also like to see the link changed from Posts to Blogs, for better understanding by all tech levels.  As mstovall says, we tend to see the same faces over and over, and they're beautiful faces,   :)     but I wonder if thousands of other faces are just not finding their way around.

Also, something I've caught myself doing a couple of times, and don't know how many times it may have happened that I didn't catch, relating to starring blogs.  I can't say this with any certainty, as I haven't experimented with it, but it seems that sometimes when I type a comment and check the star box, then return to add to or change my comment, the star disappears.  I don't know this, and of course don't check the star lists to see if I'm on it, because I "know" I am.  I have sometimes looked a blog's star list, and not found myself on it, thinking all the while that I had starred it.  On one of my blogs, I received an over-the-top encouraging comment, claiming the commenter wished she could give me multiple stars, but I got a good laugh, because she didn't give it the one!    :)    Could have been forgetfulness, as could be mind sometimes too!  Has anyone else noticed anything like this?      
Mike n Laura
February 11, 2008
Kathy, great call. This site used to have one-click access to blogs, I don't know why it changed but I am sure it was intentional (I recall a few complaints about the change, but it never reverted back).

Regarding the star-the-blog checkbox, it is indeed intermittent. I never use it anymore b/c it often doesn't work for me. Shame on me for not bringing this to the attention of the staff - I know they'd address it in a heartbeat if I had. But for me, if the workaround is painless, I just do it. When I determine to star a blog, I will click on that daggone button a dozen times if I have to until I see that star register! lol
AddGod2yourDiet
February 11, 2008
thanks!!!!!!!!!!! I hit the Explore blogs section several times a day.
Fienie
February 11, 2008
Great blog. loyalty begins at home and due to a lack of time always given proirity to my friends first. I seldom hit the explore button, time question!!! But would love to read everything if I find the time, great stuff out there and a lot to learn from.
Normally Norm
February 11, 2008

Can I be a dissenter? :) <-- Smiley because most know the answer.

I like that the "What's Fresh" starts with Friends, Church, etc. because there I *do* know these people.  This isn't speaking out against those who aren't my friends, but rather for those who are.  Friendship at times has to be intentional.  After the last move, I made it a point to try to stay in touch with folks from my former place of residence.  Many of them did not follow suit.  No call backs when I left messages, never called me leaving me as the person who had to make the calls (which for an introvert doesn't work so well) and so on.  My choice is whether to continue to pursue.  Some I chose yes and well... others I haven't (yet).

So in a land where being someone's friend takes some work, I like the fact that some of it is made easier. :)  Yeah it can lead to cliqueness, but there is no reason someone can't come bother me either.

And no that's not to say there aren't a couple of things I would change (to get to a more consistent interface overall), but I don't have time for those right now. ;) 

Suzanne Taylor
February 11, 2008

Mike, you are a brave man to bring up this subject!  If we're honest, we all like the idea of being popular and noticed.  The hard reality, though, is most people focus on what is important to them at a certain time and ignore the rest.  People are not intentionally mean, they're just busy.  It is not personal.  Part of pursuing any sort of writing hobby or career is the understanding that 90% of whatever you write will go unnoticed by the masses.  It is the nature of the beast. 

I subscribe to many blogs through google, and I read some blogs here.  I am blessed and encouraged by many of the blogs I read here, but find myself focused more on the blogs I have already subscribed to than newer blogs.  When I have a quiet moment, I do peruse the explore area and have found lovely gems there.  When I do, I subscribe to them, too!  I figure if the Lord wants me to read it, He'll show it to me.  Not every blog is meant for every person on MyChurch. 

I enjoy writing blogs myself and kept in mind from the get-go that I was writing to glorify God and to leave something tangible (and maybe even of value) for my children to remember me by when the inevitable happens and I am one day face-to-face with the One I was made for.  If no one else reads what I write, that is ok with me.  If others do read and are blessed, challenged and maybe even laugh, that's even better!  But if they don't, it's cool.  It's not personal, so we can't take it personally.  If God wants us to do it, He'll bless it.  That's it.

rosie burns
February 11, 2008

Time keeps on ticking into the future......I hear ya.....Thanks for sharing....

Jay Price
February 11, 2008

Mike~ Thank you for a thought provoking post.

All~I learned some thinks from the comments as well as the post and am still mulling over some points. Thank you for making me think! 

Mike n Laura
February 11, 2008
Rosie, that's from a song, isn't it???

Soozanne, I would like to frame your 3rd paragraph (starting "I enjoy writing...") and hang it above the computer where I do all my writing. I can identify!

Norm, you are a funny man my friend! Your perspective is appreciated, and I hope we didn't give you much to dissent from/against. I probably could have emphasized further that I don't seem to have much control over exactly who ends up in my What's Fresh clique - whereas in your pursuit of relationships outside of websites you do have that control.

I still troll the Explore page as often as I can, looking for as wide a variety of writings as possible to uplift, encourage and educate myself, and on which to post my own comments, viewpoints, questions, encouragements, etc. I just haven't had the time to do this that I'd like for, oh about 3 months now. (boohoo!) If only I could get paid to do it!!!!!  What d'ya say, Carebear!? lol
rosie burns
February 11, 2008
You got it Mike I can't seem to stop doing that lately I wrote a blog Stop Look and Listen....Can you guess who has a song titled that???? It's not really intential it just seems to fit.....
Deb Rockwell
February 11, 2008
Yes, time is limited for most on this site, to be able to read the blogs...I try to get in as many as I can as time permits, and comment on most of them, sometimes I just leave a star.  The more friends you have the harder it gets to read all the blogs.  Anyone that I don't want to miss a blog from, I subscribe to them.  Otherwise, I not only look at the "friends" blogs, but also explore to see if I might have missed anything important.
Normally Norm
February 11, 2008

Hopefully you give me lots to dissent to.  Otherwise I don't need to hear you speak/type. :)  (Well there's a certain part of me that needs reinforcement but I think that would not be the part that this blog is speaking to in general).

And really in outside life I don't have that much more control over who ends up where.  I've been friends with a number of folks that I didn't expect to be friends with.  A bunch of those just ended up happening after much talking.  The one person I talk to the most since my last move is the person I thought I would be least likely to talk to.

The thing about friendship is that in order to be friends you have to have 2 people willing to work at it.  It's not saying that there are people who you can be friends with that you talk to a lot less can't be friends, but that for you to be able to speak without having to reinvent all of the assumptions you have as friends (which should probably be investigated on occasion) which allow better communication it can't be years between discussions.

Normally Norm
February 11, 2008

I realize that first comment probably seems harsh.  I think friends can agree on many things.  But it actually goes back to my issue with the stars serving a dual role here.  I use stars to say "Me too" a lot of times if you say something I agree with.  If I don't, I usually don't add a lot because "Me too" seems like bad etiquette.  I suppose I could grunt instead. :)

So when we are here (on a blog/place of discussion) if everyone is just adding "Me too" to discussions is there really a point to writing? 

dave buckingham
February 11, 2008
So true Mike I wish I had more time for reading and commenting.  Excelent post my friend
Mike n Laura
February 11, 2008
Now I'm getting dizzy looking at this last comment! lol
Cheryl
February 11, 2008
Kathy, check the star list?  How do you do that??
Okay MIke you had 21 let's see if it changes.
Cheryl
February 11, 2008
Oh No!! It didn't change.... let's try again!
Cheryl
February 11, 2008
I'm really sad now, no stars added!
Mike n Laura
February 11, 2008
Aha, case in point! The checkbox doesn't work! Well, thanks for trying Cheryl, the fact that you thought this worthy of one of your stars does the trick for me (not that that's what this was about, but you know what I mean... God bless you!!
Normally Norm
February 11, 2008
I'm glad to see someone else forgets to close their parentheses.
Mike n Laura
February 11, 2008
DUDE, YOU CAUGHT THAT?? I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU!!!!! lol
Normally Norm
February 11, 2008

It's only because I always do it. (Like right now.  Oh wait I can't forget when it's that obvious.  Wait, look at those nice goldfish.  Actually I saw a comedian once ... I realize that's a 4 paragraph joke (that has to do with the goldfish) but I just don't have the time.)

Really though, watch my writing.  You'll see missing parentheses although I've gotten better about writing in that style. 

Cheryl Whit
February 12, 2008
A thousand stars!!!!!!!!!  I have thought of this too as I explored but was not clever enough to put a whole blog together~you have talent!  and YES, satan can match the 2:00 pm spot for blogging/MyChurch with several things to do.  I love the dizzy cartoon above, oh how that depicts life~if we let it! 
Glenn
February 12, 2008
I nearly forgot what this blog was about with all the talk about parentheses and that action packed display of busy people and the star box not working.  All of which is facinating.  I sometimes agree with what Norm was saying.  In my limited time I am often looking to my friends pages, especially those that have spoken a word in my life in the past.  I suppose that I am probably missing out on lots of things that God would speak to me about, but figure if He wants to get my attention he will.  Anyway another thought provoking blog my friend.
peace
ps lets see if the star thing works 21 now and...
Glenn
February 12, 2008
22 it worked, now the notify me box.
Forgiven
February 12, 2008

We just have to put out there what is in our hearts to write...and let God take care of the rest!

If not one person reads what we write, then at least we have been obedient to the stirring in our hearts.

We pray that we, ourselves, are not operating, or posting for any selfish reasons, and let God take care of everyone else. We cannot examine anyone else's heart but our own.

Love you and Laura!!

Forgiven.

Mike n Laura
February 12, 2008
haha, Glenn, your star worked but Cheryl's (A thousand stars!!!!!!!!!) didn't. Kathy's point illustrated. I'm laughin!
Mike n Laura
February 12, 2008
Thank you, Cathy (with a "C")!!!
Gene Boecker
February 12, 2008
Mike, I'll tell you what I do but it is, as you say, an effort.  And, unfortunately, I don;t always have time to read everything.  I have about 30-40 bloggers to whom I subscribe.  In the "what's Fresh" what you get are your friends.  I try to visit those but can't always get to them on a regular basis.  I'm on page 3 of "My Subscriptions" right now trying to get up to page one.  If I miss the "what's fresh" I check those subscriptions.  And you can subscribe without asking to be a friend.  That broadens what's available (parenthetically speaking, of course).

btw: Does anyone have a slick way to add a smiley inside a parenthesis without have a double grin?  (Other than adding an icon? - :))
Cheryl Whit
February 12, 2008
I thought that was a dbl chin!!??  LOL!!!!  I added Smiley Central to my computer.  When I have a place for a smiley I leave my cursor there and pick one! 
Normally Norm
February 12, 2008

You could do the reverse smiley (Like this (: )  That way not only do you not have a double chin onscreen but those of us who still occasionally tilt our head get exercise in a different direction.

 

Cheryl Whit
February 12, 2008
Exercise is always good!  Is this like folding your bottom lip over your top lip!!???  LOL!!!
Cheryl Whit
February 12, 2008
hey..what was the original topic about in Mike's blog???  LOL
Prayer Warrior For God
February 12, 2008

I always try to put my friends first, but that can be hard at times. I had thought that this might, catch your interest.

http://www.gospel.com/topics/friendship

SV Aravind Pulickel
February 13, 2008

sheesh, now after i read this did i realise that i actually FORGET to put a star on the post i liked reading..!!!!

Grrrr.. 

Mike n Laura
February 13, 2008
Gene, how do you keep up with 30-40 bloggers!!?!? (You must read an awful lot - which is awesome if you've got the time!)

Um...Cheryl, I thought the topic was how we get trapped in our own "What's Fresh clique" sometimes, forgetting or unable to reach beyond to the general population/Explore link. I liked Kathy's suggestions/recommendations way up there, which I'll recap:

1) rename the "Explore" button to "Blogs" and
2) one click access to the blogs (now it's two)

Norm, quit changing the subject, and quit dissenting all the time! (Oh I forgot, since you are always dissenting on my blogs I must be doing something right lol!)

DK...great to see you!! Megan, I will check out that link today (now I'm headed off to work), thanks!!
Prayer Warrior For God
February 13, 2008
It may make you think like my one blog did. ;)
Gene Boecker
February 13, 2008

Mike, I thought the idea you were trying to get at was a way to keep up with what's being written.  Given what's an extremely limited schedule, I can check through the subscription list and decide what to read right now and what to come back to when I have more time.

I don't really spend too much time on the "what's fresh" subject line (although I love the feature).  It takes only about a second or two to go through that and figure out where to spend additional time.

And about time. . .  I took about 4 hours yesterday and got caught up with my blog reading (then another 3 hours to get caught up on my book for book club this morning). 

Mike n Laura
February 13, 2008
That sure is 4 hrs I don't have! Thanks for the feedback, Gene. I actually have used the subscriptions and stars as ways to track others' blogs. Problem for me now is the time, I'm caught in What's Fresh and I can't seem to break out longer than 3-4 blogs a day.
Gene Boecker
February 13, 2008
Well, that's what happens when your such a popular guy!
Mike n Laura
February 15, 2008
Whoa, THERE you are Pastor Tim. Took you a while to comment! You really ARE busy! Yes I hear ya, that would have been MY solution from the start. Simply extend the day to about 30-35 hrs. Wouldn't that solve everything?? Well, guess that's another reason I'm not God.

Good to hear from ya! 
Joey     R
February 15, 2008
well - I jest thought you was out to pasture!
Mike n Laura
February 15, 2008
Nah, just out eatin Chinese food with my teddy bear! :-)
Procyon
February 15, 2008

You're one of the Great Encouragers on MyChurch!

But you're right, we need to Explore and find out if there are some 'voices in the wilderness' that we are missing!

Unfortunately, time is limited. And when you have 484 friends [like you have] MyChurch must be taking up hours of your time!!!!!

God bless u and yr wife.

Procyon 

Mike n Laura
February 16, 2008
Procyon, thanks!!!! :-)

I wish we would all seek out those  'voices in the wilderness'  every day, at least one or two - there are indeed some blog gems among them! (I'll bet you already do that anyway, Pro-)  Yep, time is extremely limited at this juncture in my life, even if I only had 12 friends I'd have a hard time devoting time to them....

Thanks for your comment Procyon- cherished brother!
~mike
King of cheese
February 16, 2008
That thing apodemeo uploaded or down loaded or whatever it is was neat!
I know that I need to re-evaluate why others are here.I have in the (recent) past been caught up in certain areas of this site for what started out as the right reasons but with the wrong results. I 'm sure you know what I am talking about Mike.

Mostly because you took the time to examine what my concern was and eventually asked what is this guy "really" upset about .

My beef has always been that we applaud mundane things and ignore the really good stuff.

But maybe,as the kids say,.." its all good ".

Because the goofy stuff makes us smile ,.. the heavy stuff makes us think and maybe a combination of the two will help us to evangelize.

What a jerk- I am., A professional comedian with no sense of humor.

We should all try to reach out to a blogger we dont know ... this week!

...oh and I gave this a star.
Mike n Laura
February 17, 2008
Yay! Welcome back, Jackie! Or whatever, if you never left ...lol.. Either way, it was like "where's Jackie?" Ok, so all I'm saying is somebody (maybe many) missed you!

King of Cheese, that is such a profound comment!!! I mean, if every one of us deeply examined what you just wrote, what a healthy outlook we would all have on this site! Dude, THANK YOU!!! Oh, and I agree, we should all take a little time every day to seek out at least one blogger we don't know, say 'hi' and read something they took the time to contribute. I used to do that more, and will again once this present time crush passes (and it will!)... Again, thanks for posting this awesome comment Dan!
Cheryl Whit
February 17, 2008
Good morning!  I heard something abt cheese and thought you might be cooking breakfast so here I am!  lol,  God has those funny little ways of directing us to good blogs!  I also want to work more on reaching out to newbies.  I find that as I have time I will look up blogs and ones that I have missed.  As I am looking I notice, "hey, I need to say hi to her or him", but then usually run out of time and don't get it done.  Yep..I think its called Time Management on MyChurch.  Thank you for the loving reminders~I agree w/Procycon

You're one of the Great Encouragers on MyChurch!  We all know where your heart is in being humble, we just want you to know that we thank God for every rememberance of you!!!

Mike n Laura
February 17, 2008
doggone........thank you Cheryl, that is the sweetest kindest thing anyone has said to me since... well, thank you!!! It really means a lot to me.
goody two shoes
February 18, 2008
Yeah, I think it would be cool if they added 10-15 more on the Explore route...
Mike n Laura
February 18, 2008
ooh, great idea goody-two-shoes!
Hal Waterhouse
February 21, 2008
I think that the "memos" are edging out the blog titles in "What's Fresh." Plain and Simple!
Hal Waterhouse
February 21, 2008
(This page has an ant infestation!)
Troy
February 21, 2008
does addictive come to anyones mind?
Troy
February 22, 2008
You can't be just one person doing all of this. you are like superman.
Mike n Laura
February 22, 2008
lol - you saying I'm addicted or something, Troy? :-)

Hal....you may have a point there about the memos. There are several ways to get in touch with the dev team, may I suggest that you pass your feedback along?
Tammy Hollis
April 16, 2008
Another thing that can be done to be more aware of the writers on mychurch is to subscribe to as many blogs as possible. Especially everyone on your friend page, but take the time to subscribe to the blogs of your friends, friends, and even their friends. When you click on "subscriptions" everything that is new will be indicated in Red there. This is one way I have been able to read more blogs, and make more friends. I encourage everyone to subscribe to everyones blogs!
Ian Grant Spong
April 16, 2008
Cecil the Lost SheepSorry if I'm repeating something that somebody else said. So, here's my wonderful tid bit of wiz dumb on this topic. Jesus had 12 close disciples. Moses was chided for trying to be everyone's "friend" so to speak. In other words, we need to ask ourselves whether we want a few high quality relationships or a football stadium full of shallow relationships.

What can we do about all the lost sheep? Alone, we cannot rescue all of them, but if each of us helped just one, our own Cecil the Lost Sheep, then that would be a great start. In other words, our group of close friends ought not be a closed clique, but perhaps include an opening for at least one new person. Sigh! I know! I'm an idealist at heart.
Evangelist Keith  Wilson
April 16, 2008
Thanks mike, I have noticed the same thing! I am glad you brought it up because , had it not been for the exsplore page I would have even missed this wonderful blog! I also noticed that the blogs I subscribe to don't come up on my page. Let me know when you find out what will be done about this.
Mike n Laura
April 16, 2008
Keith, I will, buddy! But don't hold your breathe. I'm not sure if that little "problem" is even on the radar screen. (I've shared these concerns behind the scenes here as well.)

Grant, the idealist. C'mon man, get thee grounded! Come back to reality! lol  ... Love the post, there is indeed wizdumb in it, hehe. Yes, you are right, a small group of friends tends to facilitate higher quality relationships than a "football stadium full", but when do you stop accepting new friends? When do you decide to say "sorry, my capacity for new friends has max'd out, you can't be my friend." Oh, that would be sad!

Thanks Tammy, that's a great tip! I do in fact use my subscriptions somewhat. But then my problem there is.....I've subscribed to so many blogs, I can't keep up with that list. I try though!

(Still snickering over Troy's *old* comment above, hehe.)