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| Bible Quotes - But It Ain't In There! |
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2:15 Give diligence to present thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, handling aright the word of truth.
2:16 But shun profane babblings: for they will proceed further in ungodliness,
How many times have you heard a from the pulpit a scripture quoted, or so you believed was scripture, only to realize that it isn't in the bible? I've grown up believing that certain sayings was in the bible, only I didn't know where to find them. Well, guess what, a lot of those so called scriptures are not… it ain't so…. It isn't in the bible at all. This is why it is so important that we pay attention. People just make up stuff and we than go and repeat it. So tell me, how many so called scripture or sayings can you recall that was said.. "God said…" I'll start with one. And God said, I will cast your sin into the sea of forgetfulness. I haven't found that sea yet.. Can you think of any? Pastor Aminata |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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God helps those who help themselves.......... It ain't in there...
Good to hear from ya
Much Love |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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Money is the root of all evil! IT don't say that- " The Love of money is"
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| February 29, 2008 |
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Pastor, I know you said "Bible quotes" but pleses let me say this?
People are always saying "God is Good" All the time and all the time God is Good!
But they never mention that "GOD IS GOOD AT BEING WHO HE IS" But they forget to mention the wrath of God! -Just a thought! |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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Mstovall - oh yeah, I grew up on that one. Now let's think about it. God will only help those who help themselves..... well, why did Jesus had to die on the cross... if we could help our own selves? I never questioned it.. until I started studying His Word. I miss you too. God bless.
Evangelist - Yet another one I grew up with.... so let's see, if "money is the root of all evil, and we need money to just for our basics... to survive, so that means to pay bills is evil??? This is yet another reason why we must handle God's Word with care.
Pastor Aminata |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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| Amen! |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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Evangelist Keith- you are so right. Another one of those saying.... it is true, but it's not the whole truth. God Is... is the whole truth. God is the God of All things.... now we need to stop trying to squeeze him into our finite thinking.
Pastor Aminata |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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Lara can you give me an example of what you mean by scriptures ignored? Hopefully you will remember what your neighbor said. Next question, what should we do when on a one-on-one someone misquotes, or simple states that the bible says so and so, and we know it's not there? Should we address it?
Pastor Aminata |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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| The word "forgetfulness is used once in Ps 88:12 and it has nothing to do with what you quoted. |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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| That's what worries me about so many new translations of the Bible coming out all the time. I'm one of those weird people that still reads KJV--okay, I've gotten a little more up to date-NKJV. God bless. |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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And God said, I will cast your sin into the sea of forgetfulness. You mean it's not there?? I've heard this forever!
I'm with you Suzanne give me my KJV! I'm sure I've heard others but here on the block my mind is bank! Pastor Aminata -Should we point out misquotes on a one on one conversation? I know if I misquoted I would want someone ot point it out to me. |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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Golden - I know I found out only when I was about to do a sermon, and went looking for said, "sea of forgetfulness" couldn't find it anywhere. When Pastor Ken got home, I asked him and he went to searching, couldn't find it anywhere.... Oh no, I said, "not another one!" Another saying that was attributed to God, but it's not there.
Suzanne - When I was growing up, the KJV is all there was for us. It's not about the version of the bible, but more about our mis-interpetations, and embelishments... and elaborations. Shame of those who do that.
Cheryl - I know what you mean. There are others, so when you mind clears up, give us one or two. I think we ought to "with grace" point out the error. Say something like... I think I know what you mean.... but where is it in the bible? Or, I don't think it say exactly that... let's take a look....
In my bible study, whenever someone says something... crooked... I say... and where did you get that from? Homework! Find the correct scripture for next week's bible study. Now they are so careful about saying the bible says.... it's not flawless, but it's a start.
Pastor Aminata |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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I think this is why people are mis led about the sea of forgettfulness
7:19 He will again have compassion upon us; he will tread our iniquities under foot; and thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea.
Eather way we miss say want is being said. |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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One of my biggest gripes is one that somehow got printed in the King James. that is Easter Acts12:4 which is not in the original scripture. see "The Interlinear Hebrew-Greek-English Bible, By Jay P Green Jr, The Trinitarian Bible Society, Londen, England. available at www.artisanpublishers.com We are to observe "Passover" which is on the 4th day of April this year. No, not the Shemite (Semite) " Passover". The Christian "Passover" Also "Swine" is the filthiest animal on earth. Christians actually celebrate a pagan service with swine for our Lord's supper. How horrible can we be.
No, most Christians do not know about this truth. But some don't even care. But God does. And i would not want to stand before him with the year by year calibration of a "swine" in his honor and knowing what I'm doing!! |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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Evangelist this is true and a shame. I might be wrong, but I don't try to memorize scripture, not deliberately. Studying scripture, somehow they stay with you. What I'd rather do is say, I'm para phrasing.... these are my words....
Yes I agree it is probably the above scripture... not even close to what was said is it? Also coupled with this one:
10:17 And their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
Pastor Aminata |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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| I want to contribute some too....but I can't think of any! The only one I can think of was already said, "God helps those who help themselves". I knew a lady once who used that to justify divorcing her husband. :-( |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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Heb 10:17 speaks about God remebering our sin no longer, than forgetting our sin. Remeberance - to bring back to memory (a act of self-will). Forget - suffering from amnesia (act beyond your control). God chooses not to bring our sin to memory, He does not suffer from amnesia.
Swine is different to a pig. A pig is a domesticated animal you can farm with (scavenger that filters the area of waste) Swine - wild animal that lives in the fields - (some swine even eat flesh of animals & humans).
I use the KJV as I find that it is more discriptive and uses precise words with exact meanings that most other translations miss.
Another quote I have not found in the Bible either: Cleanliness is next to godliness. |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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Note: the word "Pig" does not appear in the Bible. only "Swine" "Strong's #5519 choiros, khoy'-ros; of uncert, der,; a hog:-swine.
would be interesting where the word "pig" came from!! |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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Golden - I understand about the Easter thing. When I learned that it was a pagan holiday and has nothing to do with the ressurrection ... well that was the end of going Easter shopping for me.
Mike - I'm sure that how a lot of misquotes got started in the first place, folk saying stuff to justify their personal gain.
Gary - I like that.... "God does not suffer from amnesia." I used a lot of translations in my teachings, but always comparing them with the KJV. Habit I suppose. Cleanliness is next to godliness was yet another one of those.... say what? It ain't in there!?
I have another one: If you take one step... God will take two...
Pastor Aminata |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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| "The Lord helps those who help themselves" is a quote by Ben Franklin, ie. Poor Richard's Almanac. |
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| February 29, 2008 |
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Jen - thanks for the heads up. To think many have gone and given God credit for 'ole Ben's quotation. See folk it ain't in the bible.
Pastor Aminata
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| March 01, 2008 |
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I think given time with Bible Gateway I could make a case for God forgetting Sin. If sought with contrite repentant heart. But so far I havent found Sea of forgetfullness. Poor Richards Almanack, eh!!! oh well I know a lot of folks in AA that quote the Big Book like its the bible.
Oh well good discussion. |
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| March 01, 2008 |
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Hey Pastor_Ken_and_Aminata's, I know I'm a bit off topic, and this may come as a minor point, but this is what comes to mind. It's also good to check the translation with the greek when it is found in the person's Bible. Take the verse you quote way back at the beginning, it doesn't say what the ASV says in the greek. It says, "be eager to present yourself approved to God, a workman unashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth." Rightly dividing? Making a clean cut in the Word. There are divisions in the Word of God and it is what dispensations are all about. Just my two cents. R... |
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| March 01, 2008 |
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Dave - the issue is not about rather God forgets sin or not, the issue is about people quoting said scriptures, when they are not really scriptures, as in "sea of forgetfulness." There is no such sea and there is no such bible text. Or worse yet, misquoting scripture as was stated above.... "money is the root of all evil."
R - I'm not sure If I'm following you. Are you saying the above version is incorrect? As far as I can see, I find no discrepencies with that verse. Oh and btw, you can add your 2cents anytime.
Rightly dividing - Greek - or-tho-to-me'-ō a compound word 1) to cut straight, to cut straight ways a) to proceed on straight paths, hold a straight course, equiv. to doing right 2) to make straight and smooth, to handle aright, to teach the truth directly and correctly
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| March 01, 2008 |
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Lara wrote, "Now scriptures that are ignored? I could think of plenty." Yeah. Like Numbers 31:33. :D I've got one: Any "scripturesque" line that has the specific word pair "free will" in it. For example, "God respects our free will." Not in the Bible ;) (Of course, arguably, the doctrine might be there, but it's not as clear as that line.) |
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| March 01, 2008 |
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Hey Pastor Aminata,
It's a minor thing to everyone except to those who hold to dispensational theology. In the Strongs # 3718 mentions only: to make a straight cut, to dissect (expound) correctly: - rightly divide.
My point was (as said earlier by someone else), different translations water down and change the word also. That leads to confusion, so sometimes in Bible studies, I've printed out the texts for them to use and then use my NKJV and read out of it... so they are assured I haven't tampered with the text. This is a good way to ensure everyone stays with the same frame of mind developed by the same text. Thanks for welcoming my two cents. I'll keep at it. Bless you. |
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| March 01, 2008 |
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I think you guys put your heads together and came up with where it came from. It is not a direct quote, but an inference. I think there are tons of those out there.
My personal favorite non scripture quote is: "God works in mysterious ways."
We have developed oral tradition much like the scribes and phariseees of Christ's day. Where Jesus would say, "you have heard it said..." "But, I say...." We all need to make sure we have the mind of Christ and let the Holy Spirit guide our words.
Great point though! We hear so much...but does it really line up with the Word? |
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| March 01, 2008 |
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A verse I have heard misquoted more times than not is from James.
Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
What is actually said.....
Submit yourselves therefore unto GOD. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
If you are not submitted to GOD when you resist the devil the only one fleeing will be you. The devil will never stand up against GOD, he will always stand against you when you are not submitted to GOD.
I think too often way too much emphasis is placed on the second half of the verse and not nearly enough on the first part.
.....peace..... |
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| March 04, 2008 |
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I'm truly sorry for not getting back to your blog as I have had a few things here to comply with. I too was surprised, as well as, for lack of a better word. Angry that I did not learn this in my years searching for God's truth. It was pointed out to me by a Pastor who i would only wish I knew half of what he has forgotten about the Bible.
I believe it is our solome duty to pass such information to as many Christians as we can. It may seem trivial to some. But, I also know Satan has Four Hidden Dynasties, (1) education, (2) politics, (3) media, and (4) The Pulpit (the most dangerous in my opinion)
God set the times exact for every year. "Passover" (The Christian one) is the same every year. Except that this is leap Year. Jesus was put on the Cross on April 3rd in our Calendar. Counting fourteen days from the Spring Solstice gives you the Passover and the next day when our "Passover Lamb" was slain.
I know this was meant for a possible humerus reason. But, my inner being could not help but reach out to those who may be interested. We have to wonder how many of the Pastors in our country have knowledge of this fact.
Thank you for bringing this to your attention. I'm sure our Lord thanks you much more!!
God bless!! |
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| March 05, 2008 |
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Eric - I see what you mean. If we just left it up to ole KJV we would be lost, without the knowledge of doing a word study... "Numbers 31:33 And threescore and twelve thousand beeves," simply means - " 72,000 cattle."
R- I agree, that's why I always include the text on the telecast and let people know when I am using other verisons. But my main bible is the NKJV.
Brother Todd - You are so right, it is an oral tradition, a tradition of saying that the "bible says" when it doesn't say. Not a good tradition is my thinking.
Pastor Tim - I declare you do find the best quotes. I love it. It's so meaningful. Yep, that's another one that I've heard so many times from the pulpit.
Pure- This is just one example of how dangerous it is to misquote God's word.... the devil will flee because I have submitted myself unto God, not because of anything that I do...he ain't scared of me...
Golden - Thanks for sharing that information, I just love your passion for God's Word.
Jairah - For a new Christian you have a pretty good handle on His Word. Your examples are correct, and yes many things about God's ways are a mystery.. the only point here is saying that the "Bible says" when it doesn't. Thanks for sharing.
I have yet another one. Even though it's not in the bible, I'm sure many people wish it was.
"Spare the rod, spoil the child."
Pastor Aminata |
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| March 06, 2008 |
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Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child;
But the rod of correction shall drive it far from him. Proverbs 22:15
Foolishness, Heb 'evil.
Close enough?? |
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| March 06, 2008 |
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He that spareth his rod hateth his son:
But he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes=carefully seeketh correction (or discipline) for him: or seeketh early Proverbs 13:24
Closer!! |
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| March 09, 2008 |
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| May 29, 2008 |
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Pastor Aminata This is the scripture that has been twisted It's not the sae of forgetfulnees
MICAH 7
19 He will turn again, he will have compassion upon us; he will subdue our iniquities; and thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea. |
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| June 03, 2008 |
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MaKelly, You are so right, and thank you for finding that scripture for me. Pastor Aminata |
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