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Bubbles
March 28, 2008 at 7:58am
Awesome!!!
You know it, that is RIGHT where I am!
I spent over a month in Psalms.  It was all I could do.
Still in the cave but I can praise him more now
Those prayers are a blessing!
Ms Melanie
March 28, 2008 at 7:59am
Beautifully written oh great writer, Mike!   Even more beautiful because when you know it's not you, or your circumstance... you KNOW it's HIM.   Amen? 

Yes, I can say that I intimately know God’s great power, comfort, and sweet mercy: “You are my refuge, Lord, my portion in the land of the living.”   

Thank you, Mike... without going into any unnecessary details I wanted you to know that at 4:57am (PDT) this blog was VERY MUCH appreciated.    HE is the Answer, the Door, the Key, and the Way.    GREAT blog, Mike!

Lots of God's great love, respect and thanks to you both...
Melanie

Evangelist Keith Wilson
March 28, 2008 at 8:08am
Mike I have seen the same over the past couple of weeks, and my heart goes out to those people as well! I know that I have been in a cave or two myself, and the only thing that got me over was the prayers of the saints, and Gods merciful hand. I stand with you in the prayers for those hurting in those caves today. God Bless you.
Jade
March 28, 2008 at 8:11am
A much appreciated blog. Many thanks - Jade
Mike n Laura
March 28, 2008 at 8:12am

Ruth and Melanie, thank you thank you thank you!! Your comments absolutely make my day! It brings me joy to see you rely on God in the midst of troubling circumstances, and even greater joy to see you praising him!!

Mike n Laura
March 28, 2008 at 8:13am
Jade... icing on the cake!!!! Love to you!
woman of laughter
March 28, 2008 at 8:16am
great blog
Mike n Laura
March 28, 2008 at 8:16am
Thanks Keith, I appreciate standing side by side with you, my steadfast brother! THANKS woman of laughter!!
mstovall2003
March 28, 2008 at 8:38am
He is always there when no one else is - Praise him.... I cannot fathom being in a situation and not taking it to him.  Maybe he does not supply the answer or need right then but he always comes through.  It may not be the answer or resolution to the situation that I wanted but he resolves it in my best interest..  \O/..... Steadfast, Faithful that is my GOD......

You are my refuge, my portion in the land of the living.”
Jenily
March 28, 2008 at 8:39am
Thank you Mike...I love you!
Ms Melanie
March 28, 2008 at 8:51am

Mike, you were so right when you said you cannot enter the cave with them (the ones agonizing, hurting or trapped) but HE can and even our prayers can... and they (we) are never alone in that cave!   We have the ultimate entourage at all times, especially in the CAVE of ENTRAPMENT:  Father, Son, Holy Spirit and the prayers of the precious intercessors in our lives.  

Powerful picture you've painted here.   I feel like shouting HALLELUJAH as the sun awakes across this beautiful, spring California desert community!!  

Isn't it the easy way out when we run to 'vent' on someone close to us... but all the while GOD holds the KEY and the only Answer to what we are going through.   His WORD is what we should run to, His Presence should be our refuge in times of confusion or trouble.   He can give us the direction that might go in complete opposition to what a human could fathom... but HIS WAY is always the BEST WAY.   His way is SURE victory.   Amen brother?  

This is such a great and timely blog, Mike.    Ready to write a book?    I will volunteer to edit!

Thanks again... Melanie



Valarie
March 28, 2008 at 8:53am

Mike,
My verse today was out of Matthew. It was the 26th chapter 49th verse...

"Judas came straight to Jesus. "Greetings, Teacher!" he exclaimed and gave him the kiss."


Jesus knew very much what it felt like to be betrayed and hurt. He can understand how that pain can make us not want to trust anyone again. And I suspect he can uderstand that anger too. He is always there to console us and give us his sustaining love...through it all!
Great post! Very timely indeed. Thanks Mike! And thank you for being obedient and listening to what HE needed you to write. :)

paul delucia
March 28, 2008 at 9:22am

I praise God for "the ultimate entourage" previously mentioned.   He is there.......in the cave, not in the cave...........He is the only real hope ! 

Eliza
March 28, 2008 at 9:23am
Awesome! The punches he had endured from me! I thank him for the mercy and love he has for me! Thanks Mike (n Laura) : )
MichaelATL43
March 28, 2008 at 10:07am

Oh how I can relate. I just spent the last two months in the cave. I am so thankful to be able to cast my cares uponn Him knowing that he cares for me.

Thanks brother!

 Tammy     psalms77_1
March 28, 2008 at 10:18am
Thank you Mike. I am just coming out of a cave myself, and thats because ....God is Good.
And as the Lord knows, I whine, complain, and lay my worries and concerns at His feet daily. 

This blog is a great  reminder to people to bring their troubles into His hands, at His house, or just drop and leave them at His feet because that is the right place to leave our heartaches. I have tried... and tried to allow others to lend comfort or an ear, NO-ONE else can compare to the Mercy, Love, Forgiveness, and especially the Peace that is offered from our God.
Plumbline Ministries
March 28, 2008 at 10:46am

Amen....it goes right along with a blog I wrote a month or so ago about "It's because of my situation or circumstances that I am the way I am.......or is it?"    Bottom line GOD is big enough and has more than enough grace and mercy for us as we learn His ways.  He wants us to seek Him first in all ways and all things, but the key is that at some point we stop talking and start listening as He shows us, instructs us and prepares our paths.  Then, just do it!

Temaa
March 28, 2008 at 10:57am

Sometimes we think there is nothing we can do for people who are hurting, and so that's exactly what we do...nothing.  I've seen how powerful simple prayer, our presence and silence can be, as we allow people to speak as long as they need to, to vent and sort out their issues with gentle encouragement from us.  They are not waiting for us to say something "brilliant" that will solve all their problems or ease all their pain, we can't. They want someone to truly care. God does, He truly is in control, and where are in no better place in this universe than in His hands.

Strong, encouraging post Brother!  Be blessed!

Mike n Laura
March 28, 2008 at 11:00am

Plumbline, good advice! Feel free to post links, crosslinks are good -- more resources are better than fewer.

Tammy, so glad to hear that you're emerging from your struggle(s), thank you for your post sister. 

Mike n Laura
March 28, 2008 at 11:05am
Gil..."someone to truly care"...so very important, isn't it? I agree it's important to know we aren't alone as we try to sort things out, as we seek God. Those who care point me back to God, when I want to sort things out on my own.
Mike n Laura
March 28, 2008 at 11:10am

Mary, thanks...it's wonderful to hear you say that!

Thank you Paul, Jenily, Eliza, Michael....!

Melanie, you bless me again, thank you! The imagery you use is powerful too - ultimate entourage (as opposed to lonely individual), prison of entrapment (as opposed to our poor choices)... Those who pray for us really don't need to hear us vent, don't need all the gory details (acc to Matt 6:8). Wonderful input, thank you!

Trukki
March 28, 2008 at 11:45am
Good post.Thanks
Valarie
March 28, 2008 at 11:54am
I was going through Psalms just now and ran across this verse. It goes along with the one above in your blog. “You are my refuge, my portion in the land of the living"  I love the word Portion. It's like it is set aside just for me!

"My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever."                                                                                                                       ~ Psalm 73:26
Mike n Laura
March 28, 2008 at 12:17pm
God is a mighty big portion! :-)
Cheryl from Ga
March 28, 2008 at 12:24pm

I love Psalm 46.... God is my refuge and my strength.!  Thanks Mike!

Apostle  Patrick
March 28, 2008 at 1:08pm
Awesome blog
Lara Leger
March 28, 2008 at 1:38pm
This is so true.  For the longest time, and particularly the past couple of months, and especially since someone tried to tell me I should get my son checked for autism (which God has reassured me he's fine), I have felt like such a failure as a mom.  I was so burdened and upset by it.  My boy isn't speaking partly of my own doing.  Nor can he use cutlery cuz he fights me on it.  And so on and so on.  Well, I kept praying to the Lord about it.  Then this past Monday I burst out crying hard during prayer.  I poured out my complaint, my concern and my worries.  I told the Lord I have no clue what i am doing. I told God I needed Him desperately to show me how to teach Josiah stuff, to discipline him in a way that works and to be more attentive to him.  Oh, how I sobbed!  No one's words of comfort or advice really helped to ease my mind quite like the Lord did.  And ya know what?  Ever since, I have had a peace and a calm and reassurance.  That insecurity no longer rules me.  God is in control of everything. I trust Him fully in that now.  Yeah, trust.  That's what it comes down to.  That was a huge torment!  It really was.  And God took it.  So excellent word indeed!
Deb
March 28, 2008 at 4:01pm
Another great one Mike!  I too, have some friends who are having tough times in their marriages, and although I can't enter the cave with them right now, I have been in the cave before, so I can offer them some kind of empathy, and lots and lots of prayers.  God is with us all, only a breath away.
Da fellershipman
March 28, 2008 at 5:26pm

Hey Mike, I have seen and used God both as a punching bag and as a pillow for comfort.  I can testify He is the same in either case.  His loving nature never changes and Jesus has been acquainted with our sorrows and knows how to bring us to the Father.  At the bosom of the Father is really where we are seeking..we just don't realize it at first.


I remember being so angry and distraught once that I threw my Bible against the wall and called the Lord a liar.  I told Him to leave me alone.  He just loved me back to Himself until I was resting once more in His loving, caring arms.


Praise the Lord for His love and faithfulness.  Hope thou in God (Ps. 38, 42, 43, 78, 146)

Gene
March 28, 2008 at 8:43pm
Mike, you bring up the opposite side of the coin.  Instead of treating God like a vending machine (place supplication A in slot B and receive blessing C), we often treat Him like a toilet an pour on all the C&@P that we feel hoping that He'll get rid of it all.  Why is it that we can take the King of the Universe and treat Him that way?  On what land woudl anyone ever treat their King in such a way?!

David sought God in the midst of his despair but did not stoop to despair or "pouring on."  Instead, David acknowledged his despair and, instead of turning it into anger or frustration, offered his situation to God for Divine intervention.  David cries "Bring me out of prison, that I may give thanks to thy name!"

So that God may be praised.  THAT is the reason for such prayers.  Well said, Mike.
Joey
March 28, 2008 at 10:39pm
God is God, and by faith we know that we may enter into His presence with any and all problems, fears, doubts, praises, tears, disappoinments, heartbreak, etc.
Norm
March 29, 2008 at 12:08am

Interesting...  I will be honest.  It's been a rough couple of weeks/months.  There has been great stress mainly because there has been the necessity of change in many areas.  I say this not for sympathy but to explain why I am fuzzy headed (and asleep at 6:30 before waking back up and skimming this post and these comments).

What strikes me is the lost art of communication.  We seem to think that "I should take this take this to God because it's a positive thing."  Or "I shouldn't take this to God because it's negative".  The fact of the matter is I don't think God cares about whether it's positive or negative.  The fact of the matter is right now we are who we are.  There's no doubt we need to change, but many years ago I know I was trapped in the mentality that I had to get right before coming before God.  And that's completely backward.  I need to come before God before I can get right.  Yeah a lot of it is garbage.  But God knows it anyways.  Why would we try to hide it from Him?  Often the fact that we do becomes the very thing that separates us.  

It's interesting because this morning at Bible study, we were going through Romans 3 and the idea of being more blessed came up.  The question that got raised was "If we follow the law, will we be more blessed?".  It wasn't long before the word "blessing" came into question, if for no other reason that if we answer the question "Yes", the next question that has to be asked was "How was Jesus blessed?".

The very hardships we have often are the blessings that God intends to use.  Bringing those before God isn't using Him as a punching bag, but is necessary for us to acknowledge how great He is (and that we don't have a clue). 

Donna S
March 29, 2008 at 8:37am
 Yes I can honestly say this today!! >“You are my refuge, my portion in the land of the living.”

I know today I can only Pray for thos einthat cave, which I do. I use to follow them in and be trapped......Thank God I don't havr to be trapped today!!

Thanks Mike have a Blessed weekend
THTMS Jason
March 29, 2008 at 10:34am

Hmm.....you mean in the Body there are MANY people at the same time who are in the "stuff's going wrong" cave?  :)  I had no idea.  I guess Paul knew what he was talking about when he said "No temptation has overtaken you but that which is common to man" -- and yes, retreating into a cave IS
a temptation.  But I digress...

I wonder if there are so many of us "in the cave" at least partly because we (as a group collectively) are so often not mindful of our brothers and sisters in prayer?  We always seem to assume everyone else is "doing well unless notified otherwise"...kinda why I titled my last blog "Why do you want to pray for me NOW?".

Sometimes we have to peek our heads into our brothers' and sisters' "caves" to remind them to look up during all that time spent looking inward...and sometimes we need our brothers and sisters to peek into OUR caves when we're looking somewhere other than up as well.  That little touch of human contact can go a long way -- the enemy loves using circumstances, despair, and isolation to get our eyes off God, and a simple "Hey, how ya doin'?" from a loving brother or sister can just stop that before it starts.  You're great at that -- thank you! -- but we can all stand to peek in on each other more often.

Otherwise, we end up with severed Body parts all over the place, never being re-attached and simply left to decay on their own...no bueno

Dennis_oldHowe
March 31, 2008 at 11:17pm
Whew,
Hard subject, difficult area. You know I've lived in that cave a lot Mike, I'm still working at finding the light that comes from leaving the cave, but more than anything, I'm finding I'm way too sensitive to His light. I know there is need to shine it in all those places I'm trying to hide from Him, but allowing that light to shine into those dark rooms, well it hurts a bit. I think the hardest part is seeing that many areas of holiness, that come easy to many, are such hard efforts for me. Do I seek out the cave, no, but I also don't run away from it when it shows up. Anyway, even though I struggle, I am continueing to learn about how much I am loved by Him. I know Romans is true, from first to last, He desires to love me, and bring me to salvation, holy and spotless, truthful and complete, as "image and likeness". So maybe I'll let Him turn up the light a little bit more this week, eh?
thanks again brother for a "real" look inside.
Brother Todd
April 01, 2008 at 9:59pm

Cast all of your cares upon Him for He cares for you!  God has broad shoulders.  Scott Wesley Brown sang this song back in the 80s:  "If He carried the weight of the world upon His shoulders, I know my brother that He will carry you."  There is absolutely nothing wrong with entering into a dialouge with God.  Job, had a few questions, Jonah definitely had some questions, Elijah wondered what God was up to...even the Apostle Paul asked for a reprieve but God's word to him was, "My grace is sufficent for you."  God is a loving Father, but He does not spoil His children.  He expects us to go through the valley of the shadow of death, but He has promised to always be with us.  Problems, sufferings, Persecutions, adversity are all part of the process of making us like Jesus.  We carry about in our bodies an eternal weight of glory, and God is working it out, through sufferings to conform us to His image. If Jesus was made perfect through sufferings, what makes us any different?  When we go through adversity to the point we have "nothing left in the tank."  that's when God does His best work!  He is all about bringing us to the point of surrender and total dependence upon Him.  It truly is a painful process for Him to do His thing but I reckon that the sufferings of this present day are not even worthy to be compared witht the glory that will be revealed in all of us.  So have thine own way Lord thou art the potter and I am the clay.  Mold me and make me after thy will while I am waiting yielded and still. 
God Bless You Mike you have a great ministry.      

Rebel with a Cause
April 03, 2008 at 6:06pm
Yep Mike casting and casting all my cares and worries. He is much bigger than I and I always need to remember this, especially during the difficult times. Then after the whining I try to find enough just to praise His holy name. Seems like this has been happening a lot lately, either I haven't got it just right yet, or there is something I am still missing. Love all your writings, always right on time for me.

Love ya both.
  Livewire
April 13, 2008 at 11:34pm
What an encouragment!  God brought me here ...just at the right time.  Thank you.
Azucar
June 18, 2008 at 2:23am
I am disgusted with  my life. Let me complain freely. I will speak of the bitterness in my soul. Job 10:1

Wait just a minute....Could this be the same man who just refused to become bitter and turn away from God? I think it is!! He is marching to the beat of a different drum now! Isn't he? Let us look...

When we read Job 1:21-22 we are astounded at his faithfulness, his refusal to sin against God despite his unspeakable loss! However, here he is openly acknowledging his bitterness towards God! (When people tell you that the Bible is a nice little book filled with wonderful little stories, open up to Job and read a little bit about his life and trials) So, Job is expressing  his hurt and frustrations now. It HAS been quite some time since all these issues began, and the end is no where in sight. BUT...He is still pouring his heart out to God, instead of turning away from Him!

That's key...turning to Him instead of away from...I can see the light from the entrance, or in my case exit...of the cave!

Truly God is our Portion...Mike thanks for writing this...it has blessed me beyond measure tonight...Obedience is a sweet sacrifice to the Lord...Blessings...
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