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What does OMG mean?
||April 24, 2008|2001 reads
 

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Hudnall
April 24, 2008
that is why I use OMGosh... lol
Amy
April 24, 2008
 I have to tell you, that i am with you on this one. I personally feel that we should use His Name with respect. We should call Him God when we are addressing Him or praying to Him or talking about Him. But to use His Name so lightly i dont think we should do. I have taught my children not to say OMG, because they should have respect. My 6 year old son is in Kindergarten at a public school and he tells the teacher everytime he hears a classmate use the Lords name in vain! And he tells the kid he shouldnt say that! This is my personal feeling. It does bother me when i hear christians say His name so lightly.
Hal Waterhouse
April 24, 2008

LOL Ruth ...Yep! That's what my kids say it is.

'Course, I was always taught not to say gosh as it was a substitute for God, although I sometimes say "Gosh" as well. (Like Napoleon Dynamite --hee hee)

Does that make me an old fuddy-duddy at best or a legalist at worst?!

I also cringe at those makeover shows as people yell, "Oh my God" out, over and over and over.... ick!

Hal Waterhouse
April 24, 2008
Devout Jewish folk write His name as G_d, lest they break the commandment!
Hudnall
April 24, 2008
I believe it comes down to intent. (cuz I had to think about it)
was I replacing God with Gosh? I in no way direct it to God when I say gosh so no.
My mind takes it in the same way as saying OMGoodness.  Maybe I will use that from now on.
What do you think?
Hal Waterhouse
April 24, 2008

LOL - Ruth, I don't know, I think this whole thing is probably in that tricky grey area of what one Christian may call okay, may stumble someone else. Paul talked about that in eating the meat offered to idols, etc.

But I think intent IS really the question... good point, Ruth!  (God knows the heart) and "in vain" is the phrase that must be parsed!

When I say "Oh Lord," I make it a prayer! (kind of like groaning) LOL

Goodness gracious, what a predicament! 

"My word, how absurd I thought the wing was on the bird! " <--------- said with an elaborate English accent!

Hudnall
April 24, 2008
that is exactly what I thought about when I wrote that- so as not to offend
so from now on its OMGoodness (I always type it out so that people know my intentions)
Hal Waterhouse
April 24, 2008

Amy - I did not mean to ignore your comment. I have taught my kids the same things. I believe respect of God's name goes right along with the "fear of God" duty that we have. Indeed it is one of the Ten Commandments!

And good for your son. Excellent. You have obviously "trained up a child in the way he should go!"

And "Woman of Laughter" as well.... thanks for the vote of confidence... still wondering if I'm a fuddy-duddy though.... 

Hal Waterhouse
April 24, 2008
Ruth, wow, that is a great idea. I might do the same! LOL
Mike n Laura
April 24, 2008
Hal, OMG=o my gosh ... for me at least. Would never replace gosh with the Lord's name. But since some do say/think the Lord's name there, I tend to type what Ruth does. Interesting discussion! Not enough of this  if you ask me!
missy skyler
April 25, 2008
The my friends and I use it or intrupt it to mean is oh my gosh or oh my goodnes.....
Hal Waterhouse
April 25, 2008
Yes, I think most do...
 
Hal Waterhouse
April 25, 2008
5:33 "Again you have heard that it was said to the men of old, 'You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform to the Lord what you have sworn.' 5:34 But I say to you, Do not swear at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God, 5:35 or by the earth, for it is his footstool, or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 5:36 And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make one hair white or black. 5:37 Let what you say be simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything more than this comes from evil.
What about this set of verses from our Lord Jesus?
Cheryl Whit
April 25, 2008
I'm there with Mike and Ruth too!  Love ya brother!
Hal Waterhouse
April 25, 2008
Goin' with the crowd, eh.... LOL
Cheryl Whit
April 25, 2008
OMG!  hehe
Kathy
April 25, 2008

Hal, although I am not offended by OMGosh or OMGoodness, I try to avoid any expression, written or spoken, that was derived from something offensive, especially expressions like freakin'.  There are so many expressions we can use instead, and if not, it can be great fun to make one up (one that doesn't bear any resemblance to the offensive one)!  Our language is such an easy way we can set ourselves apart, and offensive language is so prevalent that people really do notice when we don't use it!  Confession:  I do occasionally say d a r n, but never g o s h  d a r n!    :)   

Hal Waterhouse
April 25, 2008
Yes, I do the same Kathy- my youth pastor says "Stink!" a lot. LOL

Here are more that are not good subs for me:

By Golly!

Golly Gee!

Gosh darn it.

Geez!

Gah!

Jiminy Cricket.

(That last one an old preacher told me was a substitute for Jesus Christ! Really!)

Lately Orbitz commercials have kinda gone that way (Cleaning up the dirty mouth - Stinky McStinkface!).
Mike n Laura
April 25, 2008
Good idea Kathy! I usually say &%#@&!  
Hal Waterhouse
April 25, 2008
Sarge vs. Beetle Bailey! LOL
Ian Grant Spong
April 27, 2008
OMG I agree is most often carelessly taking God's name in vain, without reverent purpose, in fact as an oath, swearing by God's name. It could on some rare occasions be a prayer, but in most cases I consider that it is just plain blasphemy. It is worse than the F word in my opinion. The one is only swearing in a vulgar and violent fashion by the procreative act -- bad enough. The other is swearing by God -- infinitely worse -- blasphemy.

As far as capitalizing pronouns about God goes, that is a more recent convention. It certainly had honorable intent when first formulated a few hundred years ago. However, in the Greek and Hebrew those pronouns are not capitalized. It is certainly NOT wrong to return to earlier linguistic convention. It is not blasphemy, but merely the convention that one chooses. To insist upon capitalizing Him, He, etc. can become more of a legalistic fetish, similar to some sacred name fetishes, rather than anything demanded by Holy Scripture. It is Holy Scripture that we ought to obey, not passing scribal fashions.
Hal Waterhouse
April 29, 2008

-- Thanks Grant, for the scholarly response (on both accounts). I agree that "swearing by" (Mt. 5:33-37) is blasphemy, and I am not sure that the majority of the younger generation consider what the phrase "swearing by" actually means. In our haste to throw out "hard-line" and "legalistic" stances in favor of "grace," I believe that we as Christians may have watered down the usage of God's name in mundane conversation.

20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of Jehovah thy God in vain; for Jehovah will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

 

19:12 And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, and profane the name of thy God: I am Jehovah.

 The third commandment spells out the mistake of assuming God's authority falsely. By (His Name) I will do this or that, etc. And, Numbers 30:2 says that if you invoke God's name as gaurantor of justice if the act is not carried out --you had better follow through.

30:2 When a man voweth a vow unto Jehovah, or sweareth an oath to bind his soul with a bond, he shall not break his word; he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.

Hence saying, "By God, I will break your neck" is falsely invoking God's name as a threat. (If you would actually break someone's neck puts you into the violating of the sixth commandment as well.)

Just using the name of God or God's Son (falsely) as an expletive is blasphemy!

And indeed, why yell That Name in anger, why not some other name? Is it that you are calling down vengeance on the hammer that just struck your thumb, with the most powerful name you can bring to mind?  Beware of thinking that invoking His name in such petty circumstances will not be judged as sin.

4:14 whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. What is your life? For ye are a vapor, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away. 4:15 For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall both live, and do this or that.

 Another usage of the third commandment is a warning to speak and teach truth in God's name, not falsehood:

13:6 They have seen falsehood and lying divination, that say, Jehovah saith; but Jehovah hath not sent them: and they have made men to hope that the word would be confirmed. 13:7 Have ye not seen a false vision, and have ye not spoken a lying divination, in that ye say, Jehovah saith; albeit I have not spoken? 13:8 Therefore thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Because ye have spoken falsehood, and seen lies, therefore, behold, I am against you, saith the Lord Jehovah. 

All in all, God's name is NOT to be used lightly or falsely, but with reverence and purpose!

 

Brother Todd
April 29, 2008
The Ancient Israelites were very careful about using the name of God.  Even if we were to get down to it, "God" is actually not an appropriate name for Him.  I do find it most offensive when people use "J.C" or "G.D."  I think we as a culture by and large have lost reverence for most everything and this is much like the generation after Joshua, who forgot the ways of the Lord.  I have two blogs you may have in interest in reading.  One is on the names of God and the other is about reverencing God.  
Take care,  And thanks for bringing this to our attention.
Hal Waterhouse
April 29, 2008

Wow is definitely in the camp of "let your yes be yes and your nos be nos" *nose be nose* LOL

Good one, Cathy!

Todd -- agreed and good point about Joshua.

Those were excellent blogs BTW. I've taken the liberty of linking your blogs here for those following this blog! Do not be shy about linking stuff. Mike Espey broke that barrier long ago, to our betterment!

Names of God by Brother Todd

Reverencing God by Brother Todd

Hal Waterhouse
April 29, 2008

Thanks, Lara, for the comment about specks and planks (mine is a prodigious beam indeed!) 

Oh, and see Grant's comment about the capitalization....

-- But, yes, I regularly change the capitalization in the scripture quote tool that MyChurch uses. It's an old habit. I started doing that long ago when I was making worship "slides" for  congregational singing. It made the songs make more sense (to my mind), when it refers to God, God the Son, the Holy Spirit and His attributes.

 Examples of My Church quotes without my "assistance":

3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
3:16 For God had such love for the world that he gave his only Son, so that whoever has faith in him may not come to destruction but have eternal life.

 

Now, the NASB (New American Standard Bible) and the NKJV (New King James Version) capitalizes the pronouns pertaining to God, yet many of the translations do not (the NIV does not.)

I use the NASB because of its acknowledged closeness (and "stilted") to the original Greek. And because I'm an old fuddy-duddy!

Brother Todd
April 29, 2008
I wish this "my church" scripture tool would give us the the choices of the NKJV, NASB, NIV, and the NLT, and the Message.  I am a NKJV guy and miss it terribly in my blogging. 
Deb Rockwell
April 29, 2008
I definitely agree with you.  The Lord's name is Holy, and should be treated as such.  It should not be casually used or thrown out as an exclamation.
Ian Grant Spong
April 29, 2008

Hal, like you I prefer the NASB or an interlinear for doctrinal accuracy. There is one thing the translators of the KJV/AV Bible did not take into account. That is, the NT Greek is Koiné or market place Greek as opposed to the classical Greek of scholars, and the OT Hebrew is mostly an agricultural, farmer's language. So, the KJV/AV scholars translated the language of the street and the farm into the hoity toity English of  poets and high society.

Don't get me wrong! The King James Authorized Version was THE Bible that served the English speaking world for centuries. However, today there are some wonderful translations like the NLT and the Message that take that principle of the "language of the street" and try to convey the same message, not word for word, but thought for thought, in the language of today. So, for just plain inspiration, I love both of those translations as well. Blessings!

Ian Grant Spong
April 29, 2008
Exampe: Proverbs 29:5

NASB: A man who flatters his neighbor is spreading a net for his steps.

KJV(AV): A man that flattereth his neighbour spreadeth a net for his feet.

NLT: To flatter friends is to lay a trap for their feet.

The Message
: A flattering neighbor is up to no good; he's probably planning to take advantage of you.
DeeDee Hahs
April 29, 2008
I'm glad somebody brought this up. Too many times I have seen the OMG letters on this website and have found it somewhat disturbing, though I'm quite sure the intentions have all been innocent. However, this blog has ceratinly given all who have read it pause to think about their next comment. Though we live in this world, we are not to be of this world in even the slightest representation. Thanks for keeping us all accountable :-)
Hal Waterhouse
April 30, 2008

Todd, I too wish the scripture tool gave us more choices (I love The Message for a new slant on "old" passages). That's why I have become intimately acquainted with the reference Bible sites:

"The Online Parallel Scriptures Bible" http://bible.cc/

Blue Letter Bible  http://www.blueletterbible.org/

Bible Gateway  http://www.biblegateway.com/

Deb, I totally believe and agree that His Name is holy.

When I was at the PK event in Washington DC, one of the speakers said the following (my paraphrase): "What would you do if the Lord God were to appear here on the Mall. What would you do? Some would say, 'I'd great Him as my loving Father, or I would praise Him for His help in my life, or I'd give Him a high-five and rejoice in His presence!'  --I'll tell you what I would do. I would flatten myself out in the nearest rut I could find to get as low as I could, in the presence of His Glory!" 

Grant - Thanks for more insight on the translations! Once people understand that each translation has a specific purpose for being made and history, it becomes easier to use them correctly.

DeeDee - Yes, I agree, we are not of this world. Our allegiance is to God's Kingdom and our stance as His soldiers should show a huge respect for our Lord Sabaoth!  

Hal Waterhouse
April 30, 2008

Hi Esther... we were just discussing what it means to most people. In videogames that had text only chat, the term OMG started out as "Oh My God." Here on MyChurch it apparently is understood by many as Oh My Goodness, Omigosh, etc.

But we are all wondering to a varying degree whether that is a good thing...

Brother Todd
April 30, 2008
Hal,
In your comments to DEB, I was thinking the same thing.  I would have fallen prostate before Him.
 
But, I can say that there is some truth on how we relate to Him.  Some as a Father, some as a Brother, some as a Friend etc...like that song "I can only Imagine"  who knows what we would do? or if we would even be able to think about what to do.  One thing I do know, is that no flesh will glory in His presence.  Tommy Tenny wrote in his book "God Chasers" "only dead men can see God."

Holy and Awesome is He!  There is none like Him.  Holy, Holy, Holy is the LORD God Almighty, WHO WAS and IS and IS TO COME.  Worthy to receive glory, honor, power, and riches forever Amen.  
Hal Waterhouse
April 30, 2008

Indeed, Jesus is the friend that sticks closer than a brother! I believe all aspects of God that we are allowed to see here are true as well --Loving Father, Closest Friend, et al

18:24 He that maketh many friends `doeth it' to his own destruction; But there is a friend that sticketh closer than a brother.
15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

He is my Savior, my Friend, my Lord, my King, my Creator - I join you in praise of His mighty name!

How we relate is worship, our response to God, to glorify Him! Love, praise, honor --all are aspects

--thanks for your comments Brother Todd!

Charlie  Lafferty
April 30, 2008
Here's another thought about using the Lord's name in vain.  Saying, "the Lord told me" or something to that effect when in actuality it is only something you want to hear God say.  Anytime we accredit something to God that may just be something of flesh (including OMG) it could be a case of using the Lord's name in a vain way.  It's always best to avoid such possible dishonor or offence.
Hal Waterhouse
April 30, 2008

Yep --Ezekiel 13:6-8 is a warning for that very thing!

 

Daddy'sGirl19
May 01, 2008
I love all this! It really makes you think. I don't use (OMG) at all the only words I use when I get mad or something are "Snap", "Ding, Dang, Dong", "Fiddle, Faddle", "Man or Oh Man." I was taught not to use God's name in vain. Sometimes I feel really bad because I hear it to often from alot of my friends and I'm not even fazed by it or get on to them about it. Snap! I wish I could stay longer to talk about this but I got to run. L8RZ! :)
Hal Waterhouse
May 01, 2008
CU!
codylrules
May 02, 2008
I wonder why people say it anyway.
Kathy
May 02, 2008

I'm enjoying this discussion, Hal!  Interesting and important!

Hal Waterhouse
May 02, 2008

Cody - It's a catch phrase, really.  It's very in fashion. When done with a "valley girl" accent it used to bring gales of laughter. Now it's like Oh. My. G_d. (with        long    -  pauses    -   in   -   between    -     each   -      word, and again it is comical and in fashion to say... Acck!

Kathy - It's interesting to me, and it is important to me, but I'm really curious... how is it an important discussion?

Is this like baseball caps in church to the younger generation? Are the 10 commandments now to most so covered in grace that it doesn't matter anymore if some are bent or broken? 

Joey     R
May 02, 2008

Hal:  I thought the same thing about it that you did.  It still makes me think that.  Don't like it.

To Charlie: 
I believe that God does speak to certain people, and that it is not a situation in which the person is telling themselves what they want to hear.  I believe this is sacred, not to be made light of.  I do not believe this is taking the God's name in vain.  This is holy!

Hal Waterhouse
May 02, 2008

Thanks for your comment Joey! (Good seein' ya' 'round this here part of town, ma'am!)

And sacred is His name! Amen!

Kathy
May 02, 2008

Hal, I think it's an important discussion, because it calls attention to one of the many ways we Christians are fading into the culture.  Not just OMG, but all questionable language.  It's something we should be discussing and thinking about, and we are!  Thanks! 

One of our favorite Christian answers to how we witness to others is "by my actions."  But if our language mimics that of non-Christians, how are we lighting the world?  I guess my concern is "has the salt lost its saltiness?"

Andrea Bright
May 12, 2008
u should make a blog about the uncaping of God's name
Paul Hospodar
May 12, 2008

god=something worshipped, an idol, a false religion or a 'god' of our own making (one that suits our needs)

God = Yahweh, I am who am, the God of the Bible. God the Father, etc.

That's my rule at least, unless I typo in a blog and don't catch it. :)

 

same goes for the pronouns too.

Hal Waterhouse
May 13, 2008

Kathy - "Christians are fading into the culture" --very well said. Yes, we seem to be losing our saltiness, and as one pastor said "salt in ancient times, when it lost it's flavor, it was thrown out into the street with the rest of the dirt.'" Which saint was it that said we were to be witnesses of Jesus, and sometimes we should even use words? By our actions they will know us. By our clean speech in mundane life I believe will be a witness as well! People used to apologise at my work for their profanity.. mostly because my speech was clean, I believe.

GIF - I agree. I usually capitalize using those same rules. I generally change even the verse widget's scripture quotes as well.

Andrea... perhaps I will. Some of the comments here have been pretty good on that subject as well. Like the comments Grant made (above)

Prudence Ramos
June 03, 2008
Excellent post.  My daughter uses OMB - "oh my bob", because she doesn't approve of using the Lord's name in vain and created her own.  Your post reminds me of a devotional I wrote not too long ago:  http://www.mychurch.org/blog/175341/Todays-Bible-Treasure---The-Name-Of-The-Lord-Your-God  God bless you!
Cindy
June 03, 2008

Well, I'll swan......I do declare this is very interesting.....BTW, does anyone know what "Well,I'll swan" means?????? A little old lady in our church when I was growing up used to say that......instead of OMG..........wonder if it was a politically correct way of saying "Well, I swear" some 42 years ago?

"Stinking" must be a youth pastor thing now, LOLOL

Hal Waterhouse
June 03, 2008

Cindy Lou, Well, I swan .... "bless her heart!" Stink!, I'll bet you are right, I never thought of that. LOL -- I heard my Grandma --a southern Missouri hill-folk denizen, say that with a sly grin and I never once figured that out! That's funny!

BTW, according to some wag on one of Gaither's Homecoming tapes, you can say anything about someone as long as you say (slowly and with a southern accent)"bless his/her heart" after it. It makes it "Okay."

Example: "That poor little girl types OMG in her blogs a lot....bless her heart! "

Prudence (Prue?) Oh my Bob! Funny! AND a great blog on the subject! Check it out, folks!

 

Cindy
June 03, 2008
Maybe your grandma knew the lady from my church ( in Arkansas) LOLOLOL.....
Ok, they're right.....ya gotta say it slow, with accent, and and "welllllllllll, bless her/his littttttttttle hearrrrrrrrrt ( real syrupy)
So, does where the emphasis is on the words matter in OMG.......I find that when the emphasis is on the word God and the "d" is lower and accentuated.....I'm offended but when the emphasis is on Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I feel different.
Hal Waterhouse
June 05, 2008

Yeah, language is funny like that. Of course, that is why computer users began using "emoticons" to express emotions that could not be seen or heard as spoken. ; )

I guess I still can't get past a lack of reverence for God's name. If someone is moaning that phrase as a prayer --it makes sense. And, God knows the heart!  I just think that the fear of the Lord God our Creator must win out over irreverence.

Indeed, the law kills and grace has been given to us, but the consequences of addressing God in in such a manner within the company of unbelievers --which the Internet absolutely is --I think, needs to be considered. 

Your Grandma coulda' knowed my Grandmaw  --she and Grampaw fished on Bull Shoals Lake (after it was built) And my Maw caught crawdads in the creeks between Gainesville and Ava and rode horses and such. I used to visit there and did some of those samer things! 

Cindy
June 05, 2008
Ahhhhhhhhhh, I love Bull Shoals. We rented a house boat and spent four wonderful days on it.....love that clear water!!!!!!!
Hal Waterhouse
June 05, 2008

Thanks, Restore!

Great point! Too lazy...I think some are too lazy to be respectful of GOD and use His name correctly. He is NOT a swear word.

 

Paula Rogers
June 12, 2008
Wow! I have missed a lot! All these comments that I have not read.
Okay, when I was a teenager, I was told by one of our older youth teachers to not say anything that even comes from an expression that could be negative or begins with the same sounds as something that is negative, which is what I believe I read above in one of these many responses. So. . . I still agree with that! JoJo will correct anyone he hears say anything that begins with the same sound, so don't say it around him. He does say that "Oh, my goodness" is okay because I never thought of that as coming from the same direction. I have heard that so many times when a cut has occurred or a booboo of some kind or any little problem. So, to me those have been comforting words as I have grown up rather than out of anger. I can see where others may use them as such, but I have not encountered them in that format, so I use those words when responding, such as "Oh, dear/goodness, I am so sorry you have hurt yourself." I guess it all kind of goes back to how we were raised and what it means in our hearts. I do not use these new initials for sayings. A funny incident did happen because I finally asked our oldest daughter, Veronika, what lol meant because she would e-mail that to me, and she told me that it meant "laugh out loud". Later when Patrick got an e-mail with lol in it, I asked him if he knew what it meant, he said he took it as meaning "lots of love". I really liked his interpretation better!
Hal Waterhouse
June 14, 2008

What a great perspective. Many good points! Comforting words, indeed! And God does know the heart, so a legalistic way of looking at it is wrong these days. I realize I need to "leaven" my response to include how other folks are raised and what they really mean when they say such things.

I love the LOL interpretation... you oughta do a blog on that!