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Cutting I have seen here and in my the Schools that the Youth are cutting as away to get high! When I was in prayer The Lord came to me and wanted me to get a discussion on cutting and depression with Youth and Others! There is some that know this well and can help me to help others! So maybe someone can go to Bible Club,Bible Study group, and other clubs to post about this and do it with care so they can talk to us about the problem and how God can help! Didn't some priest cut of Bale cut them selves? Someone other then me needs to do this because I know little about it so The Lord just wanted me to bring this up for your all help! Let us know. 36:26 And I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you: I will take away the heart of stone from your flesh, and give you a heart of flesh.
42:11 Why are you crushed down, O my soul? and why are you troubled in me? put your hope in God; for I will again give him praise who is my help and my God.
16:31 And they said, Have faith in the Lord Jesus, and you and your family will have salvation. God Bless Always, Bro. |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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| Doyle, cutting is a major issue with our young people and like you I know little about it. My prayer will be that someone will enlighten us so that we can help our young people. |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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Hi Brother, What is cutting? |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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Doyle, It is indeed a terrible thing. Plumb (click here) has made it her ministry to reach these young people - mostly girls - who are cutters. |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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| I can totaly relate as I was one of these people and I have a strong desire myself to work with our youth and share how through Jesus I became a totaly new person and no longer have the need to use those type of outlets. Thank you for your blog. |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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| Doyle I will try to post my own feelings on this subject shortly I WAS A CUTTER! Simple Stu! |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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| I will see what I can come up with or find those that know more on the subject. I will pray |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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| I've known several "cutters" personally and I have ministered to many others online. In fact my dear friend Louella was cutting when I first began to minister to her. Clinically much of this behavior is diagnosed as symptoms of depression. This is not always the case in every situation as I've known others to have been diagnosed with MPD (multiple personality disorder) but I've also known bulemics and anorexics to exhibit this behavior. A common thread in all of these cases is a lack of self esteem and self worth and repressed emotions, particularly anger. What I've found through personal experience and interviews with cutters and others with predminant conditions is that many of us have different ways of punishing ourselves for past failures. Some of us turn to street drugs and alcoholism to try to "medicate" ourselves as a way to overcome emotional pain. Cutting is also a way to vent because the logic is that by causing pain to your body you can somehow ease a lot of the emotional pain. So it a form of release. In some cases the cutting is a sign of demonic activity but in a few cases I found that the cutting was an extreme measure used to get attention. Reaching the youth is not about shoving Jesus down their throats. In fact this can create even more hostility. I have found that what works best is to be a friend and listen more than speak. Obviously when someone has so many issues bottled up they just need a healthy way to release it. Once they release all the junk then you can talk and they will listen. I was not personally a cutter but I exhibited the same type of behavior to extremes. In teens though a lot of the issues are also hormonal so keep this in mind when ministering to teens. If you want to know more just drop me a line. I have tons of information and experience. Shalom |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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| That you all Maybe some of you can post something on the Bible Club and Bible study Groups where our Sisters and Brother can come together to give information and pray with and show love to cutters! I belive that Dana wrote about it and Shelly a 16 year old and our pastors Keith and Jay can get together and do something to reach all Sister Lara Leger would be get reaching the youth! |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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| Actually Doyle I started to write an informative blog on the topic, "To cut or not to cut, that is the question" |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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| Hi there buddy.I have a blog on this subject on my profile.I'm a cutter and I have been to the hospital for help.U r right that it effects more then just the kids these days.Alot of times it's cause of some form of abuse that the person goes thru that makes them cut or to hurt themselves in other ways.some get into drugs selling themselves for money.Many other areas of self harm as well.I know that I see myself attracted to men that r not good for me.I know that I am no longer a child being raped and molested but it effects me in many ways.I think that in time and with God/s healing it will be easier for me to attract healthy relationships with men/woman. |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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Let me know where this blog ends up...what site...so that I may come....thanks Doyle and you are right...it is getting more popular...before we would hide it, but now the kids wear it as a badge of honor...
Yes priests of Baal would cut themselves...Lev. says that the life is in the blood....but we can go into that on the other page...blessings brother! |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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| It is a serious issue. I don't understand it. Someone did ae excellent blog on cutting and Baal a whle back..maybe you can search it and post the link. We need to pray for and love our youth. Thank you, Doyle for being obedient. |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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| By the way...the Priests of Baal also passed their children through the fire, and such things...and that has also become a popular thing...instead of tattooing, kids are branding themselves...I know of one boy who did this so much in the end he lost his foot and part of his leg from infection...Praying for these kids and even adults.... |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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| Im glad to say that i have never cut myself and plan Never to cut my self |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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| By the Grace of God 007! by the grace of God!!! |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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Doyle, I see youth cutting themselves everyday at the juvenile detention center when I work. I always thought it was a means of punishing themselves. Some of them will proudly display their scars but most of them will try to hide them. Yet, they will not talk to you about why they do it. I never thought that they were getting high off of it. Although I know little about the subject, I want to thank you for opening it up for discussion and research. I definitely want to learn more. Thank you.
Jean |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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| sickening really... |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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OUTSTANDING Doyle
I know nothing about it either but I will do resarch if you want me to, let me know ok.
These people are hurting it's a real deep hurt, from what I have heard. |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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| "Prophet" Jay has it right. And I`d like to add in addition what he said is, alot of times these young people feel "dead" inside. So sometimes they do this to Feel Something, even if it`s pain. It`s sad. We need to try and reach out to them without condemning them. Usually their family life is quite disfunctional, to say the least as well. T |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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Thank you all!!! I believe that all that can do research do all the information we can get to help and also have us praying for them and showing the love of Our Lord! Maybe we can get of this together in one place and be there to hear about there problems and love them! I don't care were it is put at as long we reach the ones that need it! God Bless, Bro. |
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| June 05, 2008 |
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| Hi Doyle, it's me Ruth (from facebook ) thank you all for caring and sharing. I have a friend who self harms and it is some type of a coping mechanism to deal with various forms of abuse . She does it because she feels dead inside and she does it also to help her stop the tormenting thoughts. There are various forms of self harming, like hair pulling, and also showering in burning hot water (burn your skin). I personally think it is often demonic but nevertheless they use this behaviour to cope with the effects of abuse , If we can continue to reach out with pure hearts full of love and compassion to our fellow sisters and brothers , it is my hope that they will somehow see the great Worth that they are so loved and valued not only by us, but by our Lord, Jesus. He loves and has made a way for us all to be set free in HIm. thanks once again for caring and sharing love you all in Christ |
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| June 06, 2008 |
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| Joe King has to be Jo-king, Imagine how sickening it is for the poor people going through it, It is not something that they choose to do. They are usually depressed and tormented! It would be better to pray for them than to judge them! Unless you have been there I would refrain from making such comments!!!!!! WWJD!!!! |
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| June 06, 2008 |
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I know of two girls who were hospitalized and treated and now they are doing fine. They were not filled with demons. They were depressed and had their home lives were not good. The families went through intense therapy as well.
You don't treat the child - you treat the problem, and if the problem involves a child/teenager, you must include the family. You pray them, and support them. You love them. |
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| June 06, 2008 |
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| True Joey...I went through that in my early thirties! |
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| June 06, 2008 |
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| Thank you all! Have anyone come up with an idea on how to get all this out and help the ones in need? The problem is growing and the cutter don't know were to go to feel the natural high of fellowship! So I really need all your help Doctors, pastors,prayer warriors and people that been there and done that.This is what God have given me to bring all of together in loving fellowship to show the lease of them Our Heavenly love not judgement that God's job not ours! |
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| June 06, 2008 |
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| Amen Doyle! I promised some input and I will before tomorrow night! ok mate! |
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| June 06, 2008 |
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Lets keep our hearts minds and souls on Jesus what ever we do! Dear Lord we ask you to come in and have us do the right thing. We let you in first and seek out your wisdom. Lord prayers are just word unless we put Your power in them,Prayer is Your love put into action!So we are seeking that you give us the power of Your love and Fellowship to share with others proclaiming that You are The Way The Truth and the Life! Amen! |
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| June 07, 2008 |
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| I too have written several blogs on this...you know my testimony about witchcraft, emo, goth, vampire stuff...to our youth: message me if ya have any questions or want to talk. God loves you like crazy!! |
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| June 07, 2008 |
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Thank you all maybe we can get all these great blogs in one place and have a site were people having these problems can go to and talk it out with those that been there! What do you all think? Me I would not know how to reach them! God is telling me to reach out and try to find a soul to do this! God Bless, Bro. |
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| June 09, 2008 |
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It was Lara that posted that: and she mentioned it without a link. So here it is. When I read it several months ago, it really touched me as I have a 15 year old daughter who is attracted to the Emo dark side of things. http://www.mychurch.org/blog/140440/Baal-Emos--Cutting |
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| June 10, 2008 |
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Wow.. This is a major issue in our society today. I graduated from Teen Challenge and I lived with some ladies who cut themselves to have a release of pain that they had endured in their lives. Alot of parents don't know what this is,, And it is sad this is a way they feel an escape from there lives at the moment. I would be happy to help you in this area God is the healer and restorer, Please feel free to go to my blogs and be encouraged. Depression is the enemies scheme to get God's children down to his level but we must refuse. Read 2nd Cor. 5:17 For if anyone is in Christ he is a new creation the old is gone and the new has come. Praise God. |
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| June 10, 2008 |
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| I believe in demons and Satan! It is said the biggest lie the devil made people believe is that he didn't exist.And in so church's he comes in the back door and have people believe him a saint! So I believe you and lara are right! Thank you Barvubuela! |
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| June 10, 2008 |
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| Pigs in the Parlor...yes Lara and Shannon...Great book and I recommend it too!!! I'm right there with you Doyle...satan is the father of lies...just checking comments...love to hear more... |
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| June 11, 2008 |
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I have never seen Bob Larson could you feel me in? wHAT DO YOU ALL WANT TO DO ABOUT A CUTTING PLACE SO WE CAN LEARN AND HELP THE ONE'S THAT NEED IT!!! |
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| June 11, 2008 |
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A long time ago, I used to cut. Not to kill but to release... release pain and stress and the only way to release it was to cause more pain. Pain on the outside to ease the pain on the inside. Scars on the outside that remind you of the scars on the inside. And, just like the scars on the outside, the ones on the inside will heal over time by the grace of God. And how difficult of a spot do we put ourselves in when we cover up our scars? We hide the truth from those around us. But, why? Not necessarily so we avoid the help of others, but so we don't get looked at funny, or lectured. "Oh you should appreciate your life," friends say. We even get scolded by people sometimes. More stress. More cutting. We hide our shame and pain from people who love us, whether we believe they love us or not. And these cuts we make are just that...self-inflicted. Just like a lot of the internal wounds we suffer from. How can we expect to heal if we aren't willing to take the intial step and change the destructive habits we have? That's how the healing begins, isn't it? Recognizing our self-harming behaviors and making the decision to try to change? But, it's hard. God didn't promise change would be easy. He didn't promise life would be easy. He promised to listen (Jeremiah 29:12, Psalm 66:19-20). He promised to deliver us from our troubles (Psalm 34:17). He promised us a full life on Earth (John 10:10). He is there. We just need to let Him in. |
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| June 12, 2008 |
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| Thank you sister!!! |
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| June 12, 2008 |
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| Thank you Sister! |
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| June 12, 2008 |
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| Thank you Sister Dana! |
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| June 16, 2008 |
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If someone is a cutter just remember to pray as much as you can. God will listen. All the feelings might not go away as soon as you pray but just hold on to your life and take a small step to recovery, "no matter how small"! It is slow and painful hope is never lost no matter how hard it gets, as long as Gods by your side, and trust me even when you feel all alone, Gods is always by your side.
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| June 16, 2008 |
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| Thank you Baita |
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| June 17, 2008 |
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| when i was younger i was a cutter, in my mind it was a release form the emotional pain I was suffering. and it did help for a second or 2 but that's all. i think the only way to stop it is to address the problem that lies be hind the cutting issue, when you solve that problem then the cutting will stop. most cutters are not trying to kill their selves they are just trying to release the grief that they are holding in side the best way they know how. then you have the type of cutters who just want attention. these type of people need psychiatric help. |
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| June 17, 2008 |
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Thank you United Faith ! My prayers are with you.Anytime you want to shair please do we need all of your inputs on this! God Bless, Bro. |
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| June 17, 2008 |
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what drove me to do it was my dad was a drunk who beat my mom almost daily and my mom beat me. i have been in a wheel chair all of my life so i couldn't run away then when i was 25 my aunt took my new born son away from me because i was in a wheel chair that drove me over the edge. after my cutting episode i came to my senses and got my head on straight. i realized i was in this situation and there was nothing i could do but accept it. all cutting did was scar up my body and made every one look at me like i was crazy.that was 16 years ago I'm still fighting the battle with my aunt for my son, and it looks like i may be winning the war praise god. my son may be half grown when he comes home but at least he will be home.
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| June 19, 2008 |
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| It is more than just cutting. and it is not a way 2 get high. it is a way 2 deal with pain. when you cut the pain goes away. i've been there,but i have stoped beacuse of people finding out. people who do this have personal issues. mostly being deppressed,left out or just really sad.once u think about it though you realize how stupid it was. but like drugs it is hard to stop. u have "cutting" cravings. who every has this that u know they just need a freind and some one who cares because no one else does. |
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| June 27, 2008 |
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thanks Doyle I will wonder over and try to share on this as I too was a cutter for many years! It is sad how many kids do this. Living by the shore and by the boardwalk I see many young kids who have designs on thier body made from cutting......they dont see what it is....I DO. In a way theu r reaching out, but if none is there to help them see....it goes on and it gets worse. I am grateful I had a therpist who CARED! She saw through me and helped me so much. Thanks again!!! Blessings bro! |
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| October 21, 2008 |
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| I used to be a cutter at one point, but I am starting to get better at it..I used to cut to help deal with the inner pain, but know I've found better ways to help deal with it. |
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| April 08, 2009 |
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| I did it once, about five years ago when in my late forties. I hated myself and had made my husband mad and wanted to punish myself. I never did it again. I was and am not demon possessed by any means. I was sadder than sad and it was after three years after my son killed himself. I think that was part of it. I wanted to hurt myself but promised my other son I would never kill myself so I hid my cutting so that it wouldn't show. |
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