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Zach and Jessica
April 15, 2007 at 1:38pm
What is the "emerging church" emerging from?
Dan
April 16, 2007 at 9:41am

The emergent church can mean several things.  Mark Driscoll from Mars Hill Church in Seattle stated the following as quoted on Wikipedia:

"In the mid-1990s I was part of what is now known as the Emerging Church and spent some time traveling the country to speak on the emerging church in the emerging culture on a team put together by Leadership Network called the Young Leader Network. But, I eventually had to distance myself from the Emergent stream of the network because friends like Brian McLaren and Doug Pagitt began pushing a theological agenda that greatly troubled me. Examples include referring to God as a chick, questioning God's sovereignty over and knowledge of the future, denial of the substitutionary atonement at the cross, a low view of Scripture, and denial of hell which is one hell of a mistake."

He explains in one of his blogs that the emergent church can fall into 4 categories:

1) a liberal view of scripture as stated above

2) people who believe small house churches are closer to the way God intended us to fellowship as believers.

3) churches that attempt to reach people through staying relevant to the culture.

 I can't remember what the 4th one was, but you can view his explanation at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcbnGXSYxuI

I think when we discuss the emergent movement, it's important to define which context we are talking about because the movement is so ambiguous.

PastorDATM
April 16, 2007 at 10:26am

From Joe's blog here: http://www.mychurch.org/blog/116/Emerging-vs-Emergent---as-explained-by-Mark-Driscoll

quoting Joe (actually copying from Joe's blog)...

Emerging vs Emergent - as explained by Mark Driscoll
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PastorDATM
April 16, 2007 at 10:28am
Oops... The YouTube video did not appear. But the link was provided by Dan above or you can also see it at Joe's blog with the link that I provided.
THTMS Jason
April 23, 2007 at 2:58am

Dan -- "Emergent" is ambiguous on purpose...if it were easy to nail down what exactly is being talked about, you might violate the whole "well, we can't really know for sure about that" mantra that seems so commonplace for the many who call themselves leaders in the movement.

-pj 

AndyM
June 28, 2007 at 11:12am
One of the things that should be clarified is that there is a difference between "emerging church" and "Emergent".  Emergent is the organization that developed out of the early meetings by people like Mark Driscoll, Brian Mclaren, Doug Pagett, and others.  "Emerging church" is a phrase used to describe alot of newer churches that are moving away from the traditional structure and questioning things that are Christ based and things that are not.  It is more of a movement than any organizations.  It would be better labeled (because we love to do those things) as "The Church Emerging", which speaks of parts of the Body progressing or investigating new ventures in the current culture.  We tend to try and make this thing into another denomination because it's easier for us to understand.  "Emerging Church" sounds like Methodist Church and Baptist Church.  The movement doesn't have structure most likely because it is a concept that many different areas of The Church are looking at.

"Emergent", on the other hand, is more organized with specific leaders and even an organizational structure.  They are not a church but people who came together and started this organization to investigate and pursue where the church might "emerge" to.  They are not, though, the head or leaders of the movement.  They would probably be more described as loud voices:)
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