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Growing Up: Thoughts from a 3½-year-old
||June 30, 2008|689 reads
 

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Paul Hospodar
June 30, 2008

Funny that you put it this way...because I've been thinking of the whole debate of 'how' we're supposed to talk and evangelize to those that do NOT know Christ...and you nailed it simply:

too often, we're trying to shove filet mignon and lobster into a babie's mouth - no wonder they will spit it out, even though eventually they would WANT that sorta thing

 

(with apologies to my vegetarian brothers and sisters!)

 

 

Hudnall
June 30, 2008
So I bopped over to PC's blog...
I am disappointed to say the least.
God is funny in that I ask before I read anything or go anywhere. 
If a book sounds wonderful- I devour it!
Someone gave me the above pictured book.
It's not that I "told" anything... ya know?
I just never picked it up again after the first two chapters.
HIS prompting!  WOW (or lack of it- whichever you want to say)
Thank you Eric.

On the other note... now it's your turn to direct people to the "seeker friendly" place
Congratulations on your Graduation Brother!
 It's DINNER Time!
LOL
Eric
June 30, 2008

Growing in Faith's comment reminds me that I may have touched on a sensitive, "political" topic.  I forgot that even as I was leaving my old church saying I wasn't getting fed, those still there felt a little offended, like they're still in elementary school.  I do not think they are inferior.  One of the Christians I look up to is physically younger than me, but much more spiritually mature than me and he continues to go to this "seeker-friendly" church, although I think he gets fed from a variety of external sources.

Also, I don't want to create a dichotomy.  Even the church I attend recognizes that it is imperative to preach the simple Gospel every single week for two reasons:  one, for visitors who may not know Christ, and two, for the mature believer because even they need to be reminded of the fundamentals of their faith (due to our sinful and forgetful hearts). 

But yeah, Growing in Faith is spot-on.   Thanks for sharing!

Bubbles, I'm still trying to figure out what Rick Warren is up to regarding Pastor Chris' blog.  Nearly every Christian I know has read "the PDL," and all have benefited from it.  Even the "contemplative spirituality" thing might be good, not bad.  Chris' blog might be "making a mountain out of a mole hill."  Just remember that the PDL is a guide, akin to a mature elder or pastor in your church (offices that are mandated by Paul, see 1 & 2 Timothy), not to substitute the Bible itself.  If the PDL encourages you to read the Bible daily, you're better off than you used to be!

Hudnall
June 30, 2008
the only SAFE bet is our Bibles- so if anything else is questionable I'd rather not have it in my head. 
I've watched him on Sunday mornings.  He likes to tell good stories (which for some is awesome because it makes God's Word in action relatable) and I find the applications Biblical.

Isn't that sad though- that we have to worry about these things?
Thank you Lord for the Holy Spirit.
Cade_One
July 08, 2008

Hey Eric,

I totally agree with most of what you have stated in your post.  I joined a non-Denominational Church while in my college years.  I noticed the same trend.  This church became a "passer through" church.  People would move onto either a mainstream Protestant Church or Orthodox/Catholic church.  I later did the same.  My parents have recently left the Presbyterian Church to join the non-Denominational Church.  Their Presbyterian pastor left to become Eastern Orthodox.  And I am now Catholic.  I agree that these "seeker-friendly" churches are doing great work in bringing people to Christ and I see this as a good thing, but I pray that the seeker continues into a deeper faith with Christ and all that He has to offer.

I chuckle when I go over to visit my parents and see the fill-in-the-blank sermon notes from the previous Sunday.  It looks a little something like this:  "For _____ so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life" (John 3:16).  My parents like this church because they used to be in a Christian rock band and now they can rock out on Sunday mornings.  Back when I attened a non-Denominational Church, I too was going for all the wrong reasons.  They had donuts, funny skits, praise-rock, and giant screens and tons of other neat gadgets.  But as I matured, so did my faith.

Eric
July 17, 2008
Awesome, Cade!  Thanks for reading and thanks for sharing!  Their church sounds like my old nondenom!
Kathy
August 17, 2008
Interesting thoughts, Eric!  The constant struggle of churches to regularly present the basics of the Gospel for those who are seeking or whose commitment is new, while also discipling those who are all levels of maturity in their relationships with Christ.  It can be accomplished in one church, but must be deliberate, intentional, and bathed in prayer.
Eric
August 20, 2008

Cade, I just noticed this line in a new light:  "My parents like this church because they used to be in a Christian rock band and now they can rock out on Sunday mornings."  I was under the impression that "contemporary Christian" was a "hip" genre.  Now you're telling me it's oldies!  LOL!  My, have things changed!  :D

Thank you, John and Kathy!  It's good to get confirmation that I'm on the right track with my thinking.