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| We Need To Pray A Revival Forth In America (who me? yeah you) |
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Then the Lord spoke to Jonah a second time:2 “Get up and go to the great city of Nineveh, and deliver the message I have given you.”3 This time Jonah obeyed the Lord’s command and went to Nineveh, a city so large that it took three days to see it all. 4 On the day Jonah entered the city, he shouted to the crowds: “Forty days from now Nineveh will be destroyed!”5 The people of Nineveh believed God’s message, and from the greatest to the least, they declared a fast and put on burlap to show their sorrow.6 When the king of Nineveh heard what Jonah was saying, he stepped down from his throne and took off his royal robes. He dressed himself in burlap and sat on a heap of ashes.7 Then the king and his nobles sent this decree throughout the city: “No one, not even the animals from your herds and flocks, may eat or drink anything at all.8 People and animals alike must wear garments of mourning, and everyone must pray earnestly to God. They must turn from their evil ways and stop all their violence.9 Who can tell? Perhaps even yet God will change his mind and hold back his fierce anger from destroying us.” 10 When God saw what they had done and how they had put a stop to their evil ways, he changed his mind and did not carry out the destruction he had threatened. Jonah 3:1-10 (NLT)
38 One day some teachers of religious law and Pharisees came to Jesus and said, “Teacher, we want you to show us a miraculous sign to prove your authority.”39 But Jesus replied, “Only an evil, adulterous generation would demand a miraculous sign; but the only sign I will give them is the sign of the prophet Jonah.40 For as Jonah was in the belly of the great fish for three days and three nights, so will the Son of Man be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights.41 “The people of Nineveh will stand up against this generation on judgment day and condemn it, for they repented of their sins at the preaching of Jonah. Now someone greater than Jonah is here—but you refuse to repent. Matt 12:38-41 (NLT) Believe it or not Judgement is in our land right now. many won't see it that way because Satan the god of this world has blinded their minds. .
We are no longer One Nation under God The true and living one anyway but one nation under gods. The gods of self, greed, lust, power, and violence.
There is spiritual light and spiritual darkness, there is A God and a Satan, there is a Heaven and there is a hell. If we reject God and His Kingdom then the only other choice is Satan and the Kingdom of Darkness.
The United States as a Nation is currently making some wrong choices in the area of Sin and it will have a profound affect on everyone in America, That includes Born Again Believers.
Many people say God is loving and does not send disaster, war, or hurricanes as part of His Judgements. But the Bible says in Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I,the Lord, do all these things" (NKJV)
We have teenagers shooting at their school, Hundreds were killed in the Oklahoma city bombing September 11 2001 shook America. Hurricane Katrina one of our cities and I am still angry about the way that was handled by our Government. Since 1973 more than 47 million have been Killed I know that is a harsh word and it makes me far from politically correct but that is a true fact. What does the bible say about abortion. (This is my opinion)
" There are six things which the Lord hates, seven which are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hand that shed INNOCENT BLOOD"
Even when God says it is wrong we as Christians no longer seem to believe because our lives are now dictated by society and not the word of God.
Gay men and Gay women are marching in the 38 th annual Gay Pride Parade. To men were in the middle of the street french kissing and yet on this very site that is a Christian Social Network There are Christians who say you are being judgemental if you call that an Abomination.
God sent warning after warning to Israel but they would not listen to the Prophets and because they would not listen Judgement came and it lead to the almost total demise of that nation. Why because her sin was a national sin so God judged the whole nation.
Body of Christ we need to stop everything and go down on our knees and weep for this Nation America as a Nation is in trouble we The Body of Christ hold the keys to Revival in America
11 So Solomon finished the Temple of the Lord, as well as the royal palace. He completed everything he had planned to do in the construction of the Temple and the palace.12 Then one night the Lord appeared to Solomon and said, “I have heard your prayer and have chosen this Temple as the place for making sacrifices.13 At times I might shut up the heavens so that no rain falls, or command grasshoppers to devour your crops, or send plagues among you.14 Then if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land.15 My eyes will be open and my ears attentive to every prayer made in this place.16 For I have chosen this Temple and set it apart to be holy—a place where my name will be honored forever. I will always watch over it, for it is dear to my heart.17 “As for you, if you faithfully follow me as David your father did, obeying all my commands, decrees, and regulations,18 then I will establish the throne of your dynasty. For I made this covenant with your father, David, when I said, ‘One of your descendants will always rule over Israel.’19 “But if you or your descendants abandon me and disobey the decrees and commands I have given you, and if you serve and worship other gods,20 then I will uproot the people from this land that I have given them. I will reject this Temple that I have made holy to honor my name. I will make it an object of mockery and ridicule among the nations.21 And though this Temple is impressive now, all who pass by will be appalled. They will ask, ‘Why did the Lord do such terrible things to this land and to this Temple?’22 “And the answer will be, ‘Because his people abandoned the Lord, the God of their ancestors, who brought them out of Egypt, and they worshiped other gods instead and bowed down to them. That is why he has brought all these disasters on them.’” 2 Chron 7:11-22 (NLT) I will leave you with the images of judgement. Pray for me and pray for this Nation This is just the beginning of sorrow. Jesus is still the answer for America and the world Be Blessed Pastor Elam.
Grocer Kroger Recalls Ground BeefCINCINNATI (June 26) - Grocer Kroger Co. said Thursday it is voluntarily recalling all ground beef products sold between May 21 and June 8 at its stores in Michigan and in central and northern Ohio.
Major Product RecallsGrocery chain Kroger recalled ground beef products sold between May 21 and June 8 at its Michigan and central and northern Ohio stores after health authorities linked the products to E. coli illnesses. Kroger said it has been notified by state and federal health authorities that E. coli illnesses reported in Michigan and in the Columbus and Toledo areas in Ohio have been linked to ground beef products sold in some Kroger stores in those areas. Kroger said customers can return any ground beef with sell-by dates of May 21 to June 8 to stores for a full refund or replacement. The company said none of the ground beef is currently available for purchase. Kroger said it is working to identify the supplier of the specific ground beef that could have caused the illnesses. The company added its stores in those areas have placed signs in the meat department to notify customers. MEXICO CITY: Mexico is banning poultry imports from Arkansas because of a bird flu outbreak in the U.S. state. The Agricultural Department says poultry meat, fertilized eggs, song birds and messenger pigeons are banned indefinitely. Avian influenza cases led to the destruction of 15,000 hens in western Arkansas earlier this month. The virus strain was not harmful to humans. Mexico is a major market for U.S. chicken. The U.S. Agriculture Department says Mexico imported some 221,000 tons (200,500 metric tons) of chicken products in 2007 More Bad News on our Plates: Tainted Tomatoes- By Steve Berg
Minnesota Post, June 11, 2008
Until recent years, the subject of food was pretty much restricted to the recipe columns or the restaurant reviews toward the back of the papers, but now food news - usually bad news - is showing up on the front page.
Two years ago it was contaminated spinach; now it's tainted tomatoes, probably from Mexico. So far, 167 people have fallen ill because of a salmonella outbreak in a current crop of red plum, red round and red Roma tomatoes. Growers in Florida, the largest producing state, were relieved on Tuesday when the U.S. Food and Drug Administration cleared much of the state from culpability, although losses could total as much as $40 million because picking and packing were halted on Saturday, dooming much of the crop. As a precaution food markets in a score of states, from California to Virginia, pulled some tomatoes from their bins, and major restaurant chains, including McDonald's, Taco Bell and Burger King said they are leaving tomatoes off of their sandwiches and salad bars. The tomatoes in question are dangerous only if eaten raw. Cherry, grape and on-vine tomatoes are not directly affected. Still, as with the e coli spinach problem of 2006, some consumers may choose to avoid all raw tomatoes for a period of time. "The reality is that the entire tomato industry is being impacted," said Ed Beckman, president of the California Tomato Farmers...
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Pastor Elam, Thank you for sharing. I read your blog here very carefully several times. The areas you did well in were adressing the problems in America which are in the news everyday. There is one area of major concern that I have with your post that I would like you to prayerfully consider. Usually in a revival message you will see a message also of repenatance however your message focused on prayer. Biblical revival begins with repentance not prayer my friend. The people must repent and call upon the name of the Lor for this is the true nature of biblical revival not man made revival. Revival is totally a work of God's grace not man's effort. You focused on what we can do to bring about revival in your post but not upon God's grace. Therefore I would challenge your call to revival because it is a man-made call and not a godly call from the Lord. Please do not take this personally because it is not intended personally however it is meant to be corrective as the Scriptures say its purpose is to "correct, reproof, in 2nd Timothy 3:16. I hope you have ears to hear the correction. |
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| In the book of Acts we saw the results of unified faith. The disciples were of one mind and one Spirit. We don't see this type of unity in the church. I see segregation and division in the church as well as many false revivals. I don't see many people going out to the masses and yet they sit in church waiting for God to bring souls. We need unity in the body! Behold how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity! |
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Revival- It presupposes that the Church is sunk down in a backslidden state, and a revival consists in the return of the Church from her backslidings, and in the conversion of sinners. 1. A revival always includes conviction of sin on the part of the Church. Backslidden professors cannot wake up and begin right away in the service of God, without deep searchings of heart. The fountains of sin need to be broken up. In a true revival, Christians are always brought under such conviction; they see their sins in such a light that often they find it impossible to maintain a hope of their acceptance with God. It does not always go to that extent, but there are always, in a genuine revival, deep convictions of sin, and often cases of abandoning all hope. 2. Backslidden Christians will be brought to repentance. A revival is nothing else than a new beginning of obedience to God. Just as in the case of a converted sinner, the first step is a deep repentance, a breaking down of heart, a getting down into the dust before God, with deep humility, and a forsaking of sin. |
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6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven.
My friend we are without a shadow of doubt in the last of the last days....and JESUS is soon to come. Just looking at the news, and even reading all the things that you have shared lets us know that we cannot continue on at this pace and GOD not intervene. Jesus Himself taught us how to pray...and He said to pray for God's Kingdom to be established here on this earth.....Just look at all the diversity of religions that exist in this world...sisters and brothers can't even agree on simple things....everybody is too busy trying to interpret the Word of God instead of letting the Word of God speak for itself......
Until Jesus returns and sets up His Kingdom here on this earth....there shall be no real peace.....and no real joy....things are unfortunately going to get worse before they get better....and for this nation as a whole to *repent* and turn to God with their whole heart....I'm not holding my breath....but I am looking forward with anticipation to the return of Jesus Christ! |
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We Need To Pray A Revival Forth In America.... Amen!!!
7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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I thank you Pastor Dave for you're words and I have considered them very carefully and I ask that you also consider my words as non confrontational. Generally that is how things go on this site one person will have a different doctrinal view from another and then they will spend a whole lot of time debating each other. I agree with Prophet Jay we don't see unity in the Church today. I am a spirit filled believer and in all of my ways I acknowledge the Lord even when it comes to writing a blog. I repent everyday because I know as Paul said there is nothing good in this flesh I make sure I have not done or said or even thought anything wrong I stay in a state of repentance daily.
usually the word repent is reserved for the believer and when we repent we are praying to the Lord to forgive us for our sins or wrongdoing or our lack of not doing his will. I don't see the sinner doing this because in most cases they don't understand repentance, grace,salvation, or any other thing that we as believers understand. Revival is for the believer it is to call him back to his first Love. The truth is we have fallen away from the mission and I felt God tugging on my heart to ask the body of Christ to Pray for Revival. You are correct I as a man cannot call for a revival but the Holy Spirit inside me caused me to pray for unity in the body oneness in the body,conviction in the body. God is not going to drop down in anyone's back yard and tell them you need to be saved. He is going to tell Pastor Dave to do it. Now if you go on you're own that is man's effort but if you be lead by the Spirit it is not you but Christ in you. Yes the Church of Jesus Christ needs to be restored, renewed, repent, revived get back to the basics of Ministry without the gimmicks. I believe when we pray that we are communicating with the Lord. Even to repent you have to pray or communicate to God. He will turn the hearts of his people towards Him if some one would pray and then we can focus on the world. that is hard to do when we are divided.I pray for Unity and Revival in the Body of Christ. I believe that is what the Lord wants. Repentance for someone who loves the Lord is easy. Taking time out of our busy day to pray seems difficult. Well let me say that when we have a potluck we can't find a seat,during prayer meeting you can pick anywhere. 7:14 if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
5:17 Pray without ceasing. 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. 5:19 Quench not the Spirit.
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Prophet Jay-You cannot have unity with the sound doctrine which comes from the Scripture. Any other unity is false and to be avoided. Your premise is all together wrong. There can never be a united church apart from a puplit that stands firm on the Word of God. Only from there can unity be established first in the local church and then outside the walls of the local church. |
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Pastor Elam, I can see we have conflicting theological viewpoints on this issue especially in relation to repentance and how God convicts the sinner. One, it is not man who convicts that is the task and ministry of the Holy Spirit. Two, we cannot come to Christ on our own merits or ability. Since this is so it is only by God's grace through the operation of the Holy Spirit in this present time who is working to convict sinners to repentance and lead them to salvation in Christ. While you may believe that we need to pray forth a revival I disagree. No, we need to preach the Word and stand on its authority. The Word of God is the means by which God has always brought revival in church history. I'll use an example that you may be well familiar with. How was the Protestant Reformation started? It was started when Luther smacked those 95 Theses on the wall at Wittenburg. We are still feeling the effects of that decision by Luther today (or at least we should!). You see we don't need to pray for revival because revival is a work of God's grace. We cannot affect God's grace, He freely offers to us but we also have to come. You cannot read the New Testament without seeing the tension between sin and grace. I would go as far as to say you cannot even read the Bible without seeing this tension in play. It is because of that tension however (sin and grace) that we have a decision which Christ already knows were going to make. Now some may disagree with me on this point but predesination and free will are actually compatible systems of thought. You cannot have one without the other just as you cannot have a holy God without also a God of love. God is holy but He is love. God demands justice for sin and calls His children to repent and believe. The message of Jesus was one of repentance to the sinner and the self righteous. To say that repentance is only for the believer is to misapply the Gospel itself which you did do Pastor Elam. Repentance is for the sinner that is how they COME into the fold. Without repentance and faith no man can be saved. We are justified by faith through the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. Without that there is no revival. Revival is both personally and it is corporate. It is individual in the sense that it calls for renewal. But this is again a work of the Holy Spirit to get the invidiual believer to understand the nature and purpose of the Gospel. Yet God also calls unregenerate sinners to repentance by the preaching of His Word. Faith comes by heairng and hearing by the Word of God. If the Word is not taught with clarity, passion and authority then it is a word from man. Your post presumes that you had a word from the Lord to call the church to pray for revival. The Lord equally puts in checks and balances in His church to test the nature and message of the teaching. Your message has been found wanting because it is not a call to revival it is a call to pray. Revival involves repentance first and foremost. A call to revival as Evangelist Wilson explained to you is a call from God. God calls for everyone everywhere to repent and believe upon His name; however only some will. Yet it is not determined for us to know who will come and who will not come therefore we should preach the Word in season and out of season and not our opinions or philosophies for they are vanity (as 1st Corinthians 1 points out). Therefore I urge you to PREACH the Word of God and not your fanciful words that you have crafted above. My encouragement to you is 1st and 2nd Timothy which charge the Pastor to preach the Word in season and out of season like a good solider of Jesus. Be a solider Pastor Elam one who cannot be refuted by the logic of this world or also by the Word of God. May your ministry be based not on your own views which are divisive but on the Word of God which cuts to the heart and convicts both the sinner and the believer of their sin and shows them the real Jesus who is alive and well. Pastor Dave |
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| Prophet Jay doesn't seem to be preaching unity at all cost. It seems to me that he is echoing the prayer of Jesus in John 17. It is always true that we must earnestly contend for the faith. There can and must be unity among Jesus true followers. We may never on this earth agree on some of the finer points of theology, but on the areas that are must assuredly believed among us we can come together and labor in one spirit and one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel. |
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Please pick up a copy of http://www.amazon.com/Revival-Martyn-Lloyd-Jones/dp/0891074155 What is Revival? by Martin Lloyd-Jones
We can define it as a period of unusual blessing and activity in the life of the Christian Church. Revival means awakening, stimulating the life, bringing it to the surface again. It happens primarily in the Church of God, and amongst believing people, and it is only secondly something that affects those that are outside also. Now this is a most important point, because this definition helps us to differentiate, once and for all, between a revival and an evangelistic campaign.
An evangelistic campaign is the Church deciding to do something with respect to those who are outside. A revival is not the Church deciding to do something and doing it. It is something that is done to the Church, something that happens to the Church.
So then, what is it that happens? The best way of answering that question is to say that it is in a sense a repetition of the day of Pentecost. It is something happening to the Church, that inevitably and almost instinctively makes one look back and think again of what happened on the day of Pentecost as recorded in Acts 2.
The essence of a revival is that the Holy Spirit comes down upon a number of people together, upon a whole church, upon a number of churches, districts, or perhaps a whole country. That is what is meant by revival. It is, if you like, a visitation of the Holy Spirit, or another term that has often been used is this--an outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
What the people are conscious of is that it is as if something has suddenly come down upon them. The Spirit of God has descended into their midst, God has come down and is amongst them. A baptism, an outpouring, a visitation. And the effect of that is that they immediately become aware of His presence and of His power in a manner that they have never known before.
I am talking about Christian people, about church members gathered together as they have done so many times before. Suddenly they are aware of His presence, they are aware of the majesty and the awe of God. The Holy Spirit literally seems to be presiding over the meeting and taking charge of it, and manifesting His power and guiding them, and leading them, and directing them. That is the essence of revival.
And what does that mean? Well, there are general characteristics which you will find in every revival that you can ever read about. The immediate effect is that the people present begin to have an awareness of spiritual things such as they have never had before.
They have heard all these things before, they may have heard them a thousand times, but what they testify is this: 'You know, the whole thing suddenly became clear to me. I was suddenly illuminated, things that I was so familiar with stood out in letters of gold, as it were. I understood. I saw it all in a way that I had never done in the whole of my life.' The Holy Spirit enlightens the mind and the understanding. They begin not only to see these things clearly but to feel their power.
What are these things of which they become so aware? First and foremost, the glory and the holiness of God. Have you ever noticed, as you read your Bibles, the effect on these people as they suddenly realized the presence of God? Like Job, they put their hands on their mouths or like Isaiah they say, 'Woe is unto me! For I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips.' They have just had a realization of the holi-ness and of the majesty and the glory of God. That always happens in a revival.
There can be a lot of laughing and lightness, and obvious organization in evangelistic campaigns. Not so in a revival, but rather awe, reverence, holy fear, the consciousness of God in His majesty, His glory, His holiness, His utter purity.
And that, as we have seen, leads inevitably to a deep and terrible sense of sin, and an aweful feeling of guilt. It leads men and women to feel that they are vile and unclean and utterly unworthy and, above all, it leads them to realize their utter helplessness face to face with such a God.
Or, like the publican depicted by our Lord in the parable, they are so conscious of all this that they cannot show their faces. They are far back near the door somewhere, beating their breasts and saying, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.'
The holiness of God, their own utter sinfulness and wretchedness, their own unworthiness; they realize they have never done anything good at all. Before, they thought they had done a great deal, now they see that it is nothing--useless. Like Paul they begin to talk about it as dung and filthy rags. In their utter helplessness and hopelessness, they prostrate themselves and cast themselves upon the love and mercy and compassion of God.
This is the convicting work of the Spirit who takes charge of the situation. People may be held in that state for some time--not only for hours but sometimes for days and weeks, and months. They may become almost desperate.
Then they are given a clear view of the love of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ and especially of His death upon the cross. At last they see it. Oh, they had always believed it theoretically, but it had never truly become real for them. They had honestly believed it, yes, but they had never felt its power, they had never known what it was to be melted by it, to be broken by it. They had never known what it was to weep with a sense of unworthiness and then of love and joy as they realized that 'God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.'
Suddenly it all becomes real to them, and they are given to know that the Son of God has loved them and has given Himself for them. It becomes an individual and a personal matter: 'He died for me, even my sins are forgiven,' and peace comes into their hearts; joy enters into them and they are lost in love and in a sense of praise of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
This now becomes the one thing that absorbs them. If they meet anyone they talk about it at once; everybody is talking about it, it is the main topic of conversation, it is the thing that absorbs all their interest. They desire to be together now and to talk about these things and so they get together, and they hold meetings. They meet every night to talk about these things and to praise God and to sing hymns to His glory.
Then they begin to pray, and there they are, hour after hour, night after night, longing to finish work so they might get together with other people who have experienced this movement of the Spirit of God. And that, of course, in turn leads them to have a great concern about others who are outside and who do not know these things.
I am giving you a synopsis of what you read in the books. They begin to get a concern for the members of their own family--husband, wife, father, mother, children, brother, sister--who do not know that they are outside. They tell them about it; they feel they must. There is a constraint that is driving them. They talk about it to people, to friends and to everybody, and they begin to pray for them. Prayer is always a great feature of every revival, great prayer meetings, intercession hour after hour. They pray for these people by name and they plead, and they will not let God go, as it were. They are intent on this with a strange urgency.
And then, after a while, hearing of all this and seeing the change in those whom they have known for so long, these others who are outside begin to join the meetings and to say, 'What is this?' So they come in, and they go through the same experience. And so it happens and thousands upon thousands are converted. Indeed, the whole neighborhood seems to be full of the Holy Spirit. He seems to be everywhere.
People are not only converted in meetings, some are converted as they are walking to the meetings, before they have even got there. Some are converted at their work, in a coal-mine, on top of a mountain. Some are awakened in the middle of the night. They went to bed feeling as usual, but they are awakened with an aweful sense of sin, and they have to get up and pray and plead with God to have mercy. Nobody has spoken to them at that moment--it is the Spirit of God that is acting. He is dominating the whole area. He is filling the lives of all the people.
That is what happens in revival and thus you get this curious, strange mixture, as it were, of great conviction of sin and great joy, a great sense of the terror of the Lord, and great thanksgiving and praise.
Always in a revival there is what somebody once called a divine disorder. Some are groaning and agonizing under conviction, others praising God for the great salvation. And all this leads to crowded and prolonged meetings. Time seems to be forgotten. People seem to have entered into eternity.
A meeting may start at six thirty in the evening, and it may not end until daybreak the next morning with nobody aware of the passing of the hours. They did not have to provide coffee once or twice halfway through. When the Holy Ghost organizes things, time, the body, and the needs of the flesh are all forgotten.
A revival, then, really means days of heaven upon earth. Let me give you one of the greatest descriptions ever written of what is true of a town when there is such a revival or a visitation of the Spirit of God. It was written by the great and saintly Jonathan Edwards about the little town of Northampton in Massachusetts in 1735.
This work soon made a glorious alteration in the town. So that in the spring and summer following, the town seemed to be full of the presence of God. It never was so full of love nor so full of joy and yet so full of distress as it was then.
There were remarkable tokens of God’s presence in almost every house. It was a time of joy in families on account of salvation being brought to them. Parents rejoicing over their children as newborn, husbands over their wives and wives over their husbands.
The doings of God were then seen in His sanctuary. God’s day was a delight and the congregation was alive in God’s service. Everyone earnestly intent on the public worship. Every hearer eager to drink in the words of the minister as they came from his mouth. The assembly in general were from time to time in tears while the Word was preached. Some weeping with sorrow and distress, others with joy and love, others with pity and concern for the souls of their neighbors.
This is God visiting His people. Days of heaven on earth, the presidency of the Holy Spirit in the Church, life abundant given to God’s people without measure.
A revival is a miracle. It is the hand of the Lord, and it is mighty. It can only be explained as the direct action and intervention of God. Men can produce evangelistic campaigns, but they cannot and never have produced a revival. A revival, by definition, is the mighty act of God and it is a sovereign act of God. It is as independent as that. Man can do nothing. God, and God alone, does it.
But not only can men not produce a revival, they cannot even explain it, and that again is most important. If you can explain what is happening in a church, apart from this sovereign act of God, it is not revival.
A revival is something which, when it happens, leads people to say, as the townspeople said in Jerusalem on the day of Pentecost, 'What is this? What is it?' It is something that comes like a tornado. It is almost like an overflowing tide; it is like a flood. Miraculous things happen, things that are beyond the explanation and the wit of men.
Finally, look at it as it is described in Acts 2. Here are the apostles meeting together for prayer in the upper room. They had been doing it for ten days. Suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing, mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. That is it. Not always the sound, but always the consciousness of the mighty wind of God. The Spirit of God descends upon preacher, prayers, praying people, those meeting in conference.
Do we know anything about that, my friends? Do we believe in God coming in and doing things that we not only cannot do, but cannot even understand, nor control, nor explain. Yea, I ask you, do you long to know such things? To see such things happening again today? Are you praying for such a visitation? For, believe me, when God hears our prayers and does this thing again, it will be such a phenomenon that not only will the Church be astounded and amazed, but even those who are outside will be compelled to listen and to pay attention, in a way that they are not doing at the present time, and in a way that men left to themselves can never persuade them to do.
This is what God can do. This is what God has done. Let us together decide to beseech Him, to plead with Him to do this again. Not that we may have the experience or the excitement, but that His mighty hand may be known and His great name may be glorified and magnified among the people. |
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In the last part of the article you posted is a contradiction to everything you wrote. Yes we do have theological differences. I believe in everything that happened on the day of Pentecost including Baptism in Jesus name. The mind set that you have is one of the reasons we won't have unity in the body of Christ. because we differ in doctrine you're first duty was to attack as if I am the devil and not a fellow brother.
I will say it again we need to pray for Revival or better yet let me quote from the article you posted. It said, Do we know anything about that, my friends? Do we believe in God coming in and doing things that we not only cannot do, but cannot even understand, nor control, nor explain. Yea, I ask you, do you long to know such things? To see such things happening again today? Are you praying for such a visitation? For, believe me, when God hears our prayers and does this thing again, it will be such a phenomenon that not only will the Church be astounded and amazed, but even those who are outside will be compelled to listen and to pay attention, in a way that they are not doing at the present time, and in a way that men left to themselves can never persuade them to do.
This is what God can do. This is what God has done. Let us together decide to beseech Him, to plead with Him to do this again. Not that we may have the experience or the excitement, but that His mighty hand may be known and His great name may be glorified and magnified among the people.
Make up your mind Pastor do we pray or do we just wait. With you're permission can we do both They prayed and tarried( waited) on the Day of Pentecost
More quotes: Prayer is always a great feature of every revival, great prayer meetings, intercession hour after hour. They pray for these people by name and they plead, and they will not let God go, as it were. They are intent on this with a strange urgency.
What is the point to prayer according to your logic Pleading,Praying for people, God will do it on his own according to predestination no sense calling out people by name that is what you said or did you misunderstand the article you posted.
I am going to pray to the Lord that he will send revival to Church in America. anyone who cares to join me is welcome to.
I am going to Pray for Pastor Dave I love you, I love you're zeal,I love you're energy a lot of it is negative and pointed towards people who are working with what God gave them. I will also encourage you to spend some time with the Spirit that wrote the bible.That is were you get revelation,illumination,and impartation. you can't buy that from seminary, or bible collage. Try kneeology before theology. as for debating I am done if you would like to discuss how to get the body of Christ to pray together I welcome you're suggestions. 18:8 and if that nation, concerning which I have spoken, turns from its evil, I will repent of the evil that I intended to do to it. 18:9 And if at any time I declare concerning a nation or a kingdom that I will build and plant it, 18:10 and if it does evil in my sight, not listening to my voice, then I will repent of the good which I had intended to do to it. 18:11 Now, therefore, say to the men of Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem: 'Thus says the LORD, Behold, I am shaping evil against you and devising a plan against you. Return, every one from his evil way, and amend your ways and your doings.'
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Pastor Elam and Pastor Dave,
I have read what each of you had to say on this subject and can see the problem that is showing up. First of all Pastor Dave, Revival is for the "Believer" to get back to their first love, back to what we should be doing in the first place: Winning lost, Spreading the Word! The Word that will prick the hearts of the Sinner and keep us, believers (the repentant believer focused on the task.
I can see why we need a Revival in America now because Christians are debating on things and using the ego to prove who is right and who is wrong instead of what God says. Revival is needed, as i stated before.
Backslidden Christians will be brought to repentance. A revival is nothing else than a new beginning of obedience to God. Just as in the case of a converted sinner, the first step is a deep repentance, a breaking down of heart, a getting down into the dust before God, with deep humility, and a forsaking of sin.(This will bring unity)
What I see here is people pointing out problems instead of seeking a solution. |
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Yes Evangelist Wilson I agree this blog was written because I felt the Holy Spirit nudge me about praying for revival. It sort of turned in to an attack on my theology I allowed my flesh to get in the way and so this blog sort of lost it's intended affect.
I want to thank you for being Godly enough to say probably what others were thinking but did not say. I want to apologize to Pastor Dave and to all of My MyChurch family for allowing my flesh to override my better judgement. I decided to defend my character rather than to stick to the issue. Pray for me. Pastor Elam |
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Pastor Elam, you are one of the strongest Men of God I know, and I think that many who get to know you will see the same. ( WE DO NEED TO PRAY FOR REVIVAL)
I pray that we all come to the unity of the faith. Continue your work and be blessed. Your Brother in Christ Evangelist Keith Wilson |
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| I accept your apology Pastor Elam and hope you can forgive me also. While I don't agree with the principles you laid out I can still agree to disagree in Christian love. God bless. |
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