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Old Testament and New Testament - Code vs. Output
||July 06, 2008|437 reads
 

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MarJay HizWay
July 07, 2008

God is the same yesterday....today....and forevermore...He changes not! 

5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.



What God meant for the Children of Israel then...He means for the Children of Israel right now in this generation.  We are to follow the example of JESUS, Who was GOD in the flesh.....He observed the law...He observed the feast days....He observed the Sabbath days...He observed the dietary laws.....He left the *perfect* example, and then He left the *perfect* sacrifice..... *Himself* to help us along the way.....Will we dot every *I* and cross every *T*....NOOO...not as long as we are in these flesh bodies...but we do have a responsibility to accept Jesus as Lord, and walk as He and all of His apostles and early disciples walked.......

*Man* may have changed some things...but GOD has not changed and *His Word* is forever settled in Heaven!

P.S.  The New Testament is full of quotations from the Old Testament...you can't understand the *new* without the *old*...they both go hand in hand ;o)
Sugg
July 07, 2008
The Old is the New concealed...the New is the Old revealed...

We are on the same page lately...this is what I have been digging into...Bless you LV!!
LV
July 07, 2008
MarJay,That is a wonderful way to express this thought. His example - shown through the Old - was not taken as a blueprint but as an outline of righteous living. You are right that we have that responsibility to accept Him and walk the walk! Bless you!

LaTonya, Great choice of words to illustrate. I have to admit that I read your blog on "The Old Covenant" and felt that I needed to put these ideas into a fixed form for others to expand upon. Thanks for the "kick in the pants" to get me to put it into words. LOL

When talking to people that I come into contact with each day I find it extremely valuable to have already thought through illustrations like this. The "Old vs. New" question seems to get me tongue tied so I really do appreciate the feedback.
Sugg
July 07, 2008
*gasp* LV, Brother...did you call me LaTonya...hehehe...that's a first...

There is so much to the Old vs. the New...The deeper I dive, the more I seem to want to know...or the hungrier I get...okay...the more I know, the more I know I don't know...did I lose you? Ah...LOL!! I think you get...Bless you and thanks for the post...
Hudnall
July 19, 2008
Oh Suga!!!  I am SOOO happy that hunger is hitting you full force!
WOOHOO
LV
July 19, 2008
Thanks, Juan!   The point I was trying to establish here by writing it down was just what you've questioned - why did Jesus say "fulfill the law"? He knew that Law as it had been handed down a recorded in the OT. Some translations use "complete the law" or "give them (the law) their full meaning"

He also knew that His own crucifixion would be the beginning of the New Covenant with mankind.

Did he say "fulfill" to get a simplistic idea across to his disciples and those listening to the Sermon at Mount Olive or was He implying more?

Knowing that He would take our sins upon Himself and lay down His very life that we would be able to stand before the throne, was He making a reference to that act of love by saying "fulfilled"?

Similarly, when He stated "It is finished" on Golgotha, was this to state that the references to how man should act but are able to (OT law) - and how He showed what one would have to do to live those laws in the flesh - to be perfect and without sin (NT law)?

These are quite possibly questions that we will not have answered until we cross into glory, but as mentioned above, when people ask me questions, I try to help them understand the meaning found in scripture. When asked why the OT wasn't enough... well, that's when I started studying and praying about this, to better understand it myself.
LV
July 19, 2008
Juan,
I left out a word in the above comment (and we know that words do matter...) the line in the next to last paragraph should have read " how man should act but are not able to..." which of course changes the whole meaning....I'm too wiped after a full week of VBS to have any business trying to type anything logical... LOL

As far as the God of the OT (fear, wrath etc) and God of NT (one of Love), I cannot disagree with your contention. How man has seen God has changed - our perception of His person.

"He changes not!" as Sister Mar Jay wrote above!
Mike n Laura
July 19, 2008
Interesting blog LV!! Seems very original to me!
LV
July 22, 2008
Juan, sorry for not answering your question sooner... I wanted to give it some thought before responding. There were many false doctrines in the early days of the church . That would seem to be the reason for the various ecumenical gatherings to sort out what was true and good and what was not (the Council of Nicea in 325 for one example).

We have to look at the time and place. There was no 24 hour a day news cycle then. Much of what was being taught was passed down in a form of oral tradition or as letters from a church leader to one of the churches. Paul saw this cheapening of the Gospel happening in his time and tried to address some of the heresies that had started to creep into the church in several of his letters.

Today, we have more resources than ever before but the fact that we are still inhabiting a fallen world makes the same sort of constant discernment necessary. Some of the same errors that befell the early church are still present in the present. : (
LV
July 22, 2008
Thanks, Mike! Just thinking out loud, so to speak.