"I have a question. So I have been reading in the bible a lot lately and I keep reading passages about how people will come to God when they have notyhing left (like Isreal in Hosea 5:15"Then I will return to my place until they admit their guilt and return to me. For as soon as trouble comes, they will earnestly search for me.") And not only have I seen that in the bible but in a lot of the testimonies from people at church (and my own as well). So with all this said if God wants all of us to be his, why is it that some people never face obstacles that would lead them to the lord? If God knows the circumstances in which we will come to him (which is the impression I am under, please coerrect me if I am wrong) then why cant he throw some of that at people? I get he is merciful but people who are saved and living for him go through trials that shape us. Why cant he put trials in the lives of nonbelievers to get them to folow him. Obviously, we have free will but it seems like so many poeple live in their own world and have very little trials in their life and I feel like, based on my readings and the testimonies I have heard, people go to God because they have a need for him. It seems like so many people dont even have that need.Any maybe its because our society is so materialistic but, I dont know. I just feel like there has to be something more. Any light you can shed on this question qould be fabulous." You've asked a very insightful question here. Let's see if we can unpack it. First, the Hosea passage (like many others) describe God's pleading with Israel to return (we see this in Lamentations especially). God allows Israel to continue in its cyclical idolatry time and again and yet God promises to be there when she returns to God. Typically, tribulation tends to get Israel's attention and forces her to retreat unto God for solace and repentence. We can see this vividly illustrated in the Psalms. Secondly, you asked, "If God knows the circumstances in which we will come to him (which is the impression I am under, please coerrect me if I am wrong) then why cant he throw some of that at people?" It is true that (1) God knows what we would freely do under every circumstance
but it is equally possible for some people that (2) There are no circumstances under which people will freely and affirmatively respond to God
If someone has not been "sent tribulation their way" it may be due to this latter possibility. For if God knows (2) then He knows that there is nothing He can do to further draw people unto Him. And given (1), when someone does not appear to be undergoing such tribulation in order to drive them [back] toward God then, in God's omniscience, it is perhaps due to God's knowing (2). Now, I'm not just idly speculating here, there are biblical references to such cases that God confesses that (2) happens to be true for some people. For example, recall the parable of the rich man and Lazarus where the rich man engages in materialism and idolatry with his money and soon ends up in hades: 16:27 And [the rich man] said, 'Then I beg you, father, [Abraham] to send him to my father's house, 16:28 for I have five brothers, so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.' 16:29 But Abraham said, 'They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.' 16:30 And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if some one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' 16:31 He said to him, ' If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be convinced if some one should rise from the dead.'" God was already aware of what the rich man's brothers would not do under those circumstances where someone even rose again from the dead. So we have some precedent that God already knows these counterfactual truths (truths of what would be the case if the circumstances were different). Finally, we also have some indication from the Bible that the presence of tribulation may have an opposite effect in some occasions. Thus, far from drawing one near (or back) to God, it may actually drive them away! Recall the Exodus of the Jews out of Egypt and how Pharaoh reacted to the 10 plagues unleashed on him and his land: 11:10 And Moses and Aaron did all these wonders before Pharaoh: and Jehovah hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he did not let the children of Israel go out of his land. |