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Education and Foolishness
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Cheryl Whit
August 28, 2008
Beautiful....

A thousand stars...
Destiny Diadem
August 28, 2008
I was just thinking about this topic. I am getting my Master's and I have achieved so many other things, but now I realize that those things didn't satisfy me. Right now, I just want to pursue God like I pursued those things.
Voice in DC
August 28, 2008
Kathy,

I totally agree with you and would add one more thing...those that achieve education cannot, should not neglect those who don't have it. I believe there is a balance here that requires those who have been given much to a greater trust. Let's face it...some of the loftiest cliques are formed around education. Those walls need to come down and stay down as well.  IMHO, that is one of the beauties of the internet...it allows walls to be penetrated, as long as there is mutual respect among those communicating.

Therein lies my question for you...whose responsibility is it to reach across those walls? Is Christ our example by being the greatest of teachers as well as the greatest of servants? If so, how do we walk out what you have so eloquently described?
Cheryl Whit
August 28, 2008
Beautiful Pastor Tim, amen guys!
Cheryl Whit
August 28, 2008
So true, very educated people can be of the simplist minds in truth.

....Jesus is The Way to the heart which brings true truth!

14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Kathy
August 28, 2008
Cheryl, thank you for the thousand stars!   :)     Your point that educated people can miss God's Truth is of course a certainty, not because they are educated, but because all people, regardless of educational background can choose to follow God to not.  Educated and uneducated alike make both choices.  Have you started your classes?!  I'm happy with you about this opportunity!

Amen, Destiny!  As the writer of Ecclesiastes said, without God all else in life is vanity.  Congratulations on your upcoming Masters degree.  Give it to God, and it will be well used!  Thank you for commenting!

Voice, as always, you pose some piercing questions!  Indeed the respect across the educational divide must be a mutual respect, and I agree that outside the church, the two sides are not likely to meet.  Within the church, however, and here on MyChurch, it seems we should be on a higher plane, realizing that the only division that really counts is the choice to follow Christ or to deny Him, and that division is not for us to make, but God's.  All else pales to nothingness.

Whose responsibility?  Christian responsibilities are always "mine," meaning none of us should take a back seat and wait for the other side to love us.  If "I" see the rift, it is "my" responsibility to reach out.  That said, this verse comes to mind:

12:48a Every one to whom much is given, of him will much be required; and of him to whom men commit much they will demand the more.

I suspect you have some thoughts on your own questions.  Please feel free to share!
   
Pastor Tim, I love the Lewis quote!  I would enjoy discussing with him though the current tendency to mislabel members of the Christian family as "heathen" when they are in disagreement.  God calls us to live, not in total agreement about every issue, but in unity of Spirit, within the Body.  Is this even possible in our current Christian culture?  (Matt. 19:26)  I also love the "Manifesto" you quoted, especially the regret that Christianity has placed a wedge between itself and science, and agree with you completely that it is the most educated people who usually make the greatest and the most atrocious contributions to our world, as education in itself, without being given to God, is lacking in wholeness.  Even C.S. Lewis, however, probably played an important role in Hitler's mindset, as his anti-Semitic writings helped shape the attitudes of that part of the world.  We must all be constantly bathed in prayer, realizing the power within us, and our human fallibility.  Even C.S. Lewis, as much as I love him, was in error on an issue of gravest importance, and only God knows what it cost!  I hope I will never believe I have everything figured out perfectly.  May God continue to mold me nearer to His image!  Thanks for the great quotes!  I love to ponder deep thoughts after midnight!  And congrats again on your recent MDiv!
Doyle Crowe
August 29, 2008
 Great one Sister!
Kathy
August 29, 2008

Thank you, Doyle!  God bless you today!

Thank you, Pastor Tim!  Never apologize for a good quote!  My great apologies though for attaching C.S. Lewis' name to antisemitism!  This is how rumors get started!  I really should not be writing at 12:41am!  I was thinking of Martin Luther, not C.S. Lewis! 

I suspect Hitler's mindset came from generations of both flawed intellectualism and flawed theology.  It is stunning to look at all the Christian theologians who were on board with Hitler because it was the accepted thinking of the German culture of the day.  A comment from another of my blogs, with Martin Luther's own words:


If you have ever wondered how a civilized Christian society could be so undeniably evil toward another group of people, you only have to read these writings in which Luther demonizes an entire group of people with a black and white, fear-mongering, scripture-filled ideas. Martin Luther laid the seeds of the Holocaust when he wrote his pamphlet "On the Jews and Their Lies" in 1543. 400 years later Adolph Hitler fulfilled his wishes. All because "they are not like us"...


http://www.humanitas-international.org/showcase/chronography/documents/luther-jews.htm


What shall we Christians do with this rejected and condemned people, the Jews? Since they live among us, we dare not tolerate their conduct, now that we are aware of their lying and reviling and blaspheming. If we do, we become sharers in their lies, cursing and blasphemy. Thus we cannot extinguish the unquenchable fire of divine wrath, of which the prophets speak, nor can we convert the Jews. With prayer and the fear of God we must practice a sharp mercy to see whether we might save at least a few from the glowing flames. ... I shall give you my sincere advice:

First, to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom...

Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. For they pursue in them the same aims as in their synagogues. Instead they might be lodged under a roof or in a barn, like the gypsies. This will bring home to them the fact that they are not masters in our country...

Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them and put aside for safekeeping...

...that all their books their prayer books, their Talmudic writings, also the entire Bible, be taken from them, not leaving them one leaf...

But what will happen even if we do burn down the Jews' synagogues and forbid them publicly to praise God, to pray, to teach, to utter God's name? They will still keep doing it in secret... In my opinion the problem must be resolved thus: If we wish to wash our hands of the Jews' blasphemy and not share in their guilt, we have to part company with them. They must be driven from our country....


Voice in DC
August 29, 2008
Kathy, you hit on my thoughts exactly. I often see those who are educated looking down on those who are not. To separate ourselves for any reason goes against God's desire, IMHO.

Pastor Tim, love the Lewis quote! Thanks!
Michael
August 29, 2008
Mattew 25....He is Looking for a Perfectly, Polished, Ready & Prepared Bride.

The Annoucement went out........The Husband Man is Here But many were Dull & unprepared
to meet Him.

Jesus is Looking for a Perfect Match....not Unequally yoked mis-match.

An  EQUAL

Thinking Caps are Good.
Charity Thomas
August 29, 2008
God says He uses the foolish things to confound the wise. I mean, He used a donkey to speak to Baalam for petes sake lol.
And He also used Paul, one of the most educated and brilliant men of his time to spread His word to the gentiles.
This is a very good blog! =D
Dr Denis
September 01, 2008
 Again  dear sister,
You prove that your education is not wasted! There are times we we feel that perhaps if we had not studied so long or learned so much but then we receive a note that tells us someone has received a wee blessing for a gem or nugget that we have found. You are a sterling example of living in both worlds the physical and the spiritual. Are we all not suppose to be a bridge between God and men?
 Denis
Kathy
September 02, 2008

Amen, Gravity!  Thanks!

Thank you for your comments, Michael!  Christ's bride is not a perfect one, but may she be nearer to perfection on that day than she is today, ever growing nearer in likeness to her Lord . . .

Dr. Denis, I like your picture of us as bridges between God and men, rather than that of separatists isolated from those to whom we are called to minister!  We are citizens of another world, but as long as we are living in this one, may we use our time to touch the lives of those who need a touch!  Thank you for commenting!  I love to hear from you!

Voice, I agree completely!  Our human nature seems to demand that we deem ourselves superior to some other group of people, whether it be based on ethnicity, education level, denomination, or job status.  God, forgive us, and mold our minds to reflect that of Jesus!
 

Kathy
November 26, 2008
A great post by Brenda Kay on a Native American's perspective of Thanksgiving.  Racial prejudice and arrogance is not limited to black and white:  http://www.mychurch.org/blog/353968/Thanksgiving-A-Native-American-View?nominate=MTI1NzI=