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Race -- Modern Make Believe #6
||September 06, 2008|342 reads
 

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Cheryl Whit
September 06, 2008
The truth is..."the only race is the Human race!" 

Excellent brother!!!
Steve Simms
September 06, 2008
Thanks, Cheryl.
Mike n Laura
September 06, 2008
Amen Steve! This might be your most important blog ever! "There is only one race -- the human race."  Definitely!!

ps... I have no ancestry at all from the 17th century thru the late 1960's. I was spontaneously created, and can't even conceive how those folks could think that way!
Patti  Hagadorn
September 06, 2008
I think this blog is just wonderful! You said somethings that needed to be said!
Steve Simms
September 06, 2008
Funny, Mike.  No ancestry.  It sounds like somebody had to "conceive" for you to be here. 

Thanks for the encouraging comment, Mike.
Steve Simms
September 06, 2008
I appreciate that, Patti.
Sheree Timms
September 06, 2008
Steve I do believe you hit the nail on the head, the Human Race is the one and only true race, if we are to be imitators of Christ and He sees no color and if Christianity means Christ like, and i call myself a Christian, then the only colors i see are those in the crayola box.  I thank you for the history and helping me to eliminate the division among the people of God.
Steve Simms
September 06, 2008
Thanks Dan and Sheree.
Angela
September 06, 2008

The truth is, however, the only race is the human race. Skin color means no more than eye color.

I have to say this is one of the best post I've ever read!!Excellent! 

Steve Simms
September 06, 2008
Wow.  Thank you so much for the compliment, Angela.
REMARKABLE TERRY
September 06, 2008
Somebody needed to say it again, and you said it very eloquent.
God bless You
Jason
September 06, 2008
Yes! And I say again yes! Amen brother! I know I was taught not to look at the color of one's skin in dertiming someone's character.
Steve Simms
September 06, 2008

Thank you Remarkable and Jason.

Charity Thomas
September 06, 2008
I really like how you wrote this blog, you inserted some very important principles and set it up in a logical and practical way.
Good job!
Steve Simms
September 07, 2008
Thanks for the great compliment, GrAvity g0.
Billy Baker
September 07, 2008

Agreed this is a great post "There is only one race -- the human race."

I disagree however with the following:

"The concept of race was developed in the Western world during the 17th Century as an attempt to justify the terrible crimes that were being committed against Africans"

The concept of race is as old as sin, it is not a western invention. I am a South African (I so happen to be white) in the junior youth group (5-13 yrs) that my wife and I oversee for our church on Friday afternoons we have a great mixof children what we here in South Africa refer to as black, coloured and white children.  I rejoice in the wonder of GOD's creation how out of one man He has made all the different peoples of the world "Red, and yellow black and white all are precious in His sight" as the song went that we used to sing at Good News Club.

This verse comes from the Song of Solomon Chapter 1 verse 5 "

 "I am black, but comely, Oh ye daughters of Jerusalem, As the tents of Kedar, As the curtains of Solomon." the Holy Spirit inspired this most beautiful loive poem and see whatcolour the women describes herself as being.

 I am of the opinion that only liberal humanists have an issue with colour, I as a Christian do not believe that I am better or worse for being white, I am proud of what GOD has made me, I am proud of the fact that He has used my nation South Africa to show how reconciliation can be achieved among the races, there are many black people in our nation who are proud of being black, there are many coloured people in our nation who are proud of being coloured and there are many who our proud that they are white, 

But above all I am proud that I know and serve a GOD who lovingly created all these peoples and calls them to know Him,to serve Him, and to rejoice in His wonderful creation I am blessed to live in what we call the rainbow nation South Africa.

Please do look at the pictures of our "Mighty Warriors" junior youth group and praise GOD with me for the beautiful children he has blessed us with.

http://www.mychurch.org/thechurchonthehill 
Steve Simms
September 07, 2008

Good comment, Billy.  People have been aware of human physical differences for thousands of years, but color was not seen as significant until there was a need to justify the slave trade.  The Romans knew Africans, but did not see them as a different "race."  Roman slavery was based on power, not on color.  The concept of an inferior "race," not just an inferior ethnic group, was not seen in the ancient world.

 

Billy Baker
September 08, 2008

Steve I am sorry I do not agree, yes racism is not only about colour,although to alarge degree it has been in South Africa's recent history. But I remember only 20 odd years ago using racial expletives against children that stayed in the same neighbourhood as I did and these children were as white as I am, here in South Africa white eoropeans are iether of English speaking background or Afrikaans (similar to dutch)

There was animosity between the two groups for a number of years amidst the straight forward Apartheid/Racism that existed in our country.

What I would liketo know having lookedon the internet for an answer is.

How do you know that racism with respect to colour never happened before the 17th century? I mean what proof do you have that since Noah exited the Ark along with his 3 sons and their wives that racism along colour lines has never happened?

I ask these questions in trepidation, I have observed both in my country first hand, and on the pages of the internet a kind of guiltcomplex among europeans (white people) not all Europeans are white like not all Africans are black. I am an African.

I was talking to freinds of mine this morning, and we discussed an interesting rise or increase of racism not between white South Africans and others, but between black and coloured South Africans.

 "My beloved is white and ruddy, The chiefest among ten thousand." Song of Solomon 5:10

The word used for white is Hebrew "Tsach" meaning clear, dry,plainly or white

"I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.
 6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept." Song of Solomon 1:5-6

 

The Hebrew word for black is "Shachor" in verse 5 and Shacharchoreth in verse 6 and both words in strongs talk of the colour black. Again this is scripture inspired by the Holy Spirit by GOD Himself and has nothing to do with a persons humanity, just their very visible colour.

Again I would liketo please ask what proof do you have for this statement "

"The concept of an inferior "race," not just an inferior ethnic group, was not seen in the ancient world. "

 

Steve Simms
September 08, 2008
Billy;  Skin color is obvious.  Thus it is mentioned in the Bible.  It is God given, just like eye color.  I guess I can ask you the same thing:  Where is there evidence in the ancient world of any group building up a hatred against another people based solely on their skin color?   I've read a lot of history.  I've never read anything in history that shows people looking down on others solely on the base of their skin color until Western Europeans began to use skin color to justify the horrible sin of slavery.  Can you show me anything from pre-African slavery that shows a widespread disdain of others based on their skin tone?  I don't think you can find it.
Tamara Ford
September 09, 2008
Race actually doesn't exist. It was invented to appease the consciences of civilised Europeans to enable them to colonise countries where they considered the owners had not amde good use of the land through cultivation and building substantial dwellings. Those who were wandering tribal peoples were even 'lower' down the chain in their eyes. They took the lands of others  'terre nullius' as not belonging (as in fenced property) to anyone. They considered the black or coloured peoples would just die out, which they nearly did, because their system of food supplies were denied them or destroyed by civilised clearing of the land and cultivation.
There are over a 100 different genes and only 10 of them have connection with skin colour, shapes of eyes and hair colour.texture. When genetics (blood sampling) is done and compared; Africans are more closely connected to people in Sweden and White Australians with people in Peru. Work that one out. Research genetics and the things it is proving against racism. It's very interesting.
I am an Australian Uni Student in my 50's named Judy, who loves scrapbooking. My daughter is touring the US with the Christian Rock Band Jael. Her husband Scott is the lead male singer in this band. Check them out at www.jaelrocks.com
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Billy Baker
September 09, 2008

Praise GOD for Google and the internet sorry Steve, but with the challenge laid down I (I love academic challenges) lol :) I determined to find something that would "prove" my point in my first comment, it is unnecesssary for Europeans to carry the guilt of racism solely, all cultures are guilty of racism. in whatever form it takes.

This however does not excuse European racism, and especially European racism in the light of their "better knowledge" of the scriptures and this is where the greatest indictment against my race (the white race) and especially the English race lies.

 

We were blessed with the scriptures in our own tongue and no where do I read  support for racism in the Bible all though I know some have imagined this and have done some creative exposition of scripture here in South Africa the former National Party government, the Klu Klux Klan in America being some of them.

The following comes from the website  

 http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/2002/2102.htm

"Africans and Africans/Blacks in the Black Diaspora once declared a war against Racism, Colonialism and sanctified Racism. One of the first wars against racism by Blacks occurred in Egypt against the Hyksos who about the 1700's Before Christ to the 1500's Before Christ, invaded Egypt and ravaged the land and people. They plundered, destroyed and tried to enslave the Blacks of Egypt. After about 300 years of tyranny, they were defeated an driven back where they came from. The hero of that fight was Pharoah Ahmose.

One of the longest and still existing wars against racism happened in India, where about 1700 B.C. to 1500 B.C., 'Indo-European" nomads invaded the great Black civilization of Harappa and Mohenjo-daro, India. Many historical sources state that the invaders did not immediately invade the Black India but used flooding as well as trickling in gradually."

The other proof I was going to present for racism existing prior to the 17th century is the Koran written in 700AD which speaks of black people as being inferior people, but I do not have Robert Morey' book "Islamic Invasion" at home right now. From which I would quote the verses.

By the way I read an article concerning an American who has since passed away the late Frank Snowden  whose goal was to I quote "

"his scholarship centered on one point: that blacks in the ancient world seemed to have been spared the virulent racism common to later Western civilization. "The onus of intense color prejudice cannot be placed upon the shoulders of the ancients," he wrote." from washingtonpost.com

So I present the above with the awareness that history today is sometimes detewrmined by who writes the book, kind of like the difference betwen the ACLU's version of America's Christian history and that of some Christian freinds of mine who are making this great book available

The Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of the United States 

Be afraid ACLU. Be very afraid. Morris packs The Christian Life and Character with page after page of original source material making the case that America was founded as a Christian nation. The evidence is unanswerable and irrefutable. This 1000-page book will astound you and send enemies of Christianity into shock. Keep in mind that it was published in 1864 and has been out of print for more than a century. It has been newly typeset using a very readable font and added subheads."—Gary DeMar.

It all depends on whose history book you read and when it was written, and what their motive was.