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A few months ago (April '08), I had a back-n-forth exchange with someone here on MyChurch who infuriated me with his accusations and arrogant remarks. He completely misjudged me, by a comment I made on a blog written by someone else in his church. He then proceeded to "defend" her by browbeating me with condescending sarcasm. (Funny, the other person never took offense!) I was blindsided, completely taken aback, and had to respond. Except that only made things worse. I seriously considered bailing out on MyChurch afterwards, it really hurt!
But I think the thing that hurt most was the Spirit convicting me that my responses to his misguided assertions were far from the perfect righteousness that God demands from me. Somehow I was deceived into thinking I could open his eyes, and the eyes of his readers, to the utter lack of the Holy Spirit's influence on his words. But that influence was also lacking in mine.
Out of that experience came four blogs (linked below) based mainly on the lessons I learned. As painful as it is to bring this back up, I do so because the Spirit is telling me that by sharing this, someone else may learn the lessons I learned ('cept the easy way!) and be stronger ambassadors of Christ as a result. I pray that I've discerned correctly.
Why didn't I look to heaven sooner?
Justice?....No, trust
I'm weak for Christ's sake
Missing the point, once again
And though she insists this blog is about cats, I have a suspicion that our MyChurch blogging and commenting were somewhere in her mind when Joey wrote this:
These catfights have got to stop! |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| You are a wise man, Bro! |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| I agree with Bubbles, you are wise..and I am so glad you didnt leave! =) |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Amen brother...it seems to be a theme and attack here lately...I have had a man lie about me and then a friend block me due to the lie.....I am thinking, doesn't my record stand in what I talk and write and walk for the 9 months I have been on here, MyChurch. Also, this lady does not know the whole story...she heard one side....not that I would gossip or spread anything but she never gave me the chance to make a statement as to any defense in peace or not.
Secondly, a well-known person on here made a crass statement about me and did not know the "vehind the scenes" messages or anything else involved in a blog...my first and only statement was in peace, it even stated so, and was just a simple question so I could understand more of where someone was coming from as I am always learning too....I was attacked in my character and then assaulted by several comments on my blogs as he seems to deem it is his Holy Spirit duty to correct me....I was stunned...
I am praying for peace on this site and unity...satan would love to destroy what God has built...we are almost up to 200,000 people...satan wants a division in every way...race, color, beliefs, writing, joking, clicks, God's way will stand firm.
Brother Mike, I am so sorry you were hurt. Thank you for your faithfulness and love that you volunteer on this site for our Savior. YOU make God smile brother...and us!!
Much love guy!! |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| I echo the words of Bubbles. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| LOL! I'm not leaving mychurch, I'm just not going to comment on the other blog. That's too funny! |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| Cher, it would be a great loss for MyChurch if we lost you. Actually, I'm sure I can say the same about each person who posts a comment on this blog....as their compassion and love are evidenced. Thanks Bubbles, Stevie, ticklemeelmo.... I'm glad to continue fellowshipping w/you all. :-) |
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| ...and doveagle, :-) |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Mike, WOW!! That is why it is important to be very careful in how and what we type. I have not fortunately had the same thing happen to me but to a certain extent I have. I have a problem when others take and the attitude you discribe above condesending and Infuriating, with something I post. Just because you may have a "title" before your name does not give you the right to bully anyone! I for one am grateful you stayed cause I have been so blessed by your blogs and you sharing your experiences with all of us!!!
Love ya Brother and keep doing what you are doing!!! that is Being honest and keeping it REAL!! |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Is this not the design of Satan to falsely accuse and destroy even God's people if he can. The scriptures tells us that in the last days the even the very elect could be deceived. Brother Mike, no Satan doesn't want your words or the words of anyone else's spread, why? you might take away one or two from his numbers. The encouragement I receive from MyChurch helps me to continually focus my life on the eternal things of God.
The past two and a half years my wife and I have gone through storm after storm. And there has been times I thought I was about to sink, because like Peter my faith begin to shake as I looked around beginning to sank. But instead through the words of someone here, my pastor, someone from the church, or those around me I felt the mighty grip of the Lord take hold of my hand preventing me from sinking.
I am learning that even though the storms howl around us that if we trust in Jesus He'll calm the storms of our life and speak, "Peace be still." Love you my Brother and love MyChurch. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| Mike I am glad that you didn't leave. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Mike,
Steve posted the other day about the works of Mother Teresa. I wrote that one of my favorite quotes attributed to her was, "I wish the Lord didn't trust me so much." She had grown so weary of working in a broken world but knew she had to continue. She believed that the Lord trusted that she would do it no matter the hurt or pain.
There are those days that I wonder why people do and say the things that they do. Sometimes it is so hurtful and perplexing and it is hard to pastor some folk. I had one of those days recently. There are those times, like you, I feel like quitting. But, the Lord has placed a large amount of trust in me that I will fight the good fight, finish my course.
I sometimes wish he didn't trust me so much. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Wow Jerry, so true...
came back to follow this blog...thanks brother |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Trust God, Put you faith in Jesus. People will disappoint us.
We are so glad you didn't leave. Good comment Jerry
Love Y'all Much |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| Funny how cats tend to imitate humans.. or is it the other way around.. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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I think we all need to think w w j d, what would Jesus do before we act and jump on our brother or sister and hurt not only them but their reputationr . I can tell you frist hand this is the part that is hard to get back, so let all of us who call ourselves ( christians ) be sure of what we put on the site. That you know beyond a dought you know what you are about to say is true. God bless you all |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| I'm so glad you didn't leave. Your ministry has been felt across the nation through this mychurch. I'm glad you are here. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| Mike oh Mike...I was just writing about you on my blog comments. You are the true treasure on here. There would be an emptiness that could never be filled if you left us! I am continually touched by the level of your wisdom and your sweet spirit. You are a calming spirit in the mist of all this strife. No, you are not perfect, none of us are, and that is why we need Jesus. Just remember how much you are loved. God Bless You. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| I'm 60 years old and it amazes me how much I can learn from other people. Thanks for not leaving MyChurch, Mike and thanks for the lessons. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| First of all, thanks for NOT leaving! Your blogs inspire and convict me....I need them! I think we've all encountered some of it, in one way or another.......satan hates unity. Love ya guy! |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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I remember those blogs. God uses those tough times in our life to teach us, remind us, and help us communicate to others who are going through similar things.
I am glad you never left the MYchurch as in my mind it would not be the same without you. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| Glad you didn't leave. Reading your blogs really help me sometimes. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Wow...
I can't even imagine MyChurch without Mike! That's not even a thinkable thought. Thanks for the links...just sad the lessons came from such a difficult situation, and it's even sadder to hear that other people have experienced the same. We do need to remember there are people with real feelings attached to these blogs...who are sharing their heart. If you don't agree...move on. That's the great power of the internet...click and delete. lol! We've learned the hard way too. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Liz, glad I didn't leave too. If I did, I wouldn't have that beautiful MyChurch shirt that just came in the mail from http://www.cafepress.com/espmcd :-) Christeena, most of us have those stories it seems. Where you have a lot of people, you often have a few folks on the fringe. Jerry, such wisdom! And where did it come from? Experience! (and I wish he didn't trust me too) Todd, thanks bro. Identification means we go through the mud so we know how it feels! CindyLou, you're a dear! Thanx! Ed, learnin' along w/ya is a pleasure! Bren, you're a sweet addition, hope to know you a long time! Debora, you are a blessing to more than you know. Thanks! Robert, there's more truth to wwjd than a lot of folks want to admit. Amen bro. Shan, thanks so much, and wow, your entire comment resonates so well with me! "We all get tested in loving the unlovely. I believe that God puts those ppl in our paths so that we can see where we are in our love walk." Wow wow wow! Carol, I dunno! Sometimes it's both! Don't you feel like a cat herder sometimes? Thanks Terry. Faith in Jesus first, then people. Sarah Ellen, bless you sis, that means a lot to me. beautyforashes, you bless my heart. Thank you, and I agree, titles can be deceiving when not followed by appropriate words/actions. Larry, your comment means the world to me. I do hope you continue to be edified by MyChurch, and all the good things people share here. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Birdie, you are precious, and your words carry weight! I agree, having learned the hard way. Click n delete, hehe. Mama Strout, thank you sister. Thankful you have added your sweet spirit to this community. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| LOL Mike. I was just about to ask if it came. Glad you got it! :) |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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hi Mike n Laura, i'm so glad you didn't leave my church or i wouldn't have met you :-)
you were some of the first to reach out to me when i was new here and your kindness and thoughtfulness toward me has been apparent, though you only know me via my small posts...i've also faced many of the same things you blog about...injustice and wanting to defend myself..and i see "self" rise up before the Holy Spirit in me at times. we are all on the same path, learning from God and learning from each others. thank you for being you and for sharing your truth and for being humble enough to share it with others. may God continue to bless you and use you to influence others for good. have a blessed day!! penny |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| I'm Glad you stayed or i won't of enjoyed the lovely comments you sent me! God Bless you. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Amen...for without Holy Ghost discernment, we MISS what the heart sees, and misjudge because of what we see NATURALLY instead of spiritually. That is why we are commanded in 1 Cor. 4:4-5 not to make any sudden judgements because God will come and reveal. My prayer for you is that you continue to 'LOOK TOWARDS HEAVEN' and see as God sees. It's not as difficult as we think. Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us throughout the ordeal.
King James Version (KJV)
Passage 1 Corinthians 4:4-5:
4For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. 5Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.
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Amplified Bible (AMP)
Passage 1 Corinthians 4:4-5:
4I am not conscious of anything against myself, and I feel blameless; but I am not vindicated and acquitted before God on that account. It is the Lord [Himself] Who examines and judges me. 5So do not make any hasty or premature judgments before the time when the Lord comes [again], for He will both bring to light the secret things that are [now hidden] in darkness and disclose and expose the [secret] aims (motives and purposes) of hearts. Then every man will receive his [due] commendation from God.
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The Message (MSG)
Passage 1 Corinthians 4:4-5: 1 Corinthians 41 -4Don't imagine us leaders to be something we aren't. We are servants of Christ, not his masters. We are guides into God's most sublime secrets, not security guards posted to protect them. The requirements for a good guide are reliability and accurate knowledge. It matters very little to me what you think of me, even less where I rank in popular opinion. I don't even rank myself. Comparisons in these matters are pointless. I'm not aware of anything that would disqualify me from being a good guide for you, but that doesn't mean much. The Master makes that judgment. 5So don't get ahead of the Master and jump to conclusions with your judgments before all the evidence is in. When he comes, he will bring out in the open and place in evidence all kinds of things we never even dreamed of—inner motives and purposes and prayers. Only then will any one of us get to hear the "Well done!" of God.
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So with all that said, thank you for not leaving MyChurch! We would not have had the pleasure of reading the growth God is doing in you; for if we all were honest, there were MANY times we could've gone off on some things, but just didn't. My prayer for you is that you will continue to allow Him to use you in bringing light to OTHERS' situations.
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| I know the kind of man you are Mike. You are thoughtful and caring. I pray for this rift to be healed. We do not need desencion amoung us when there are so many in THE world against us. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| Mike I must say this is an amazing blog! Many words of wisdom!!!!!!! You know how I feel on this subject, and I think you share my same concerns! The only thing I would add to this is this I pledge allegience to the lamb! I ask all to listen to that song by Ray Boltz and let the Holy Spirit lead in conviction. If you can't find the song it's the first song on my playlist! Luv ya all with all my heart and soul!!!! |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Mike, I have been where you are and it was thanks to some amazing friends that I have stayed this long and I think that mychurch has growns with your wisdom, there maybe some people who try to tear you down, but you can't let them get to you. Keep trying my friend and know that your a blessing to me. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Hi Mike. Thank you for your insightful words. WWJD - we know what Jesus would do! Luke 5:16, "But Jesus often withdrew to lonely places and prayed." I hope that I would always turn to prayer first before letting my sinful self come forth. Because I am not perfect I trust in my counselor, Jesus, to help me to be discernful. But in the words of my Granny, "what makes you think you are so great that everyone's talking about you?" I repeat this question to myself often so that I do not take everything so personally. But if I ever do offend someone, I would hope that they do what a Christian should do as listed in Matthew 18:15, "If a fellow believer hurts you, go and tell him—work it out between the two of you." Thank you, Mike, for staying on MyChurch. I learn much from your blogs and look forward to reading more (...and you're one of the few who subscribe to mine.) In God's love...MT |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Mike, you are definitely a wise man. I can't imagine MyChurch w/o you! Birdie's right - that's an unthinkable thought! I have learned a lot from your blogs. I haven't had a chance to read the ones you linked, but will after work.
It seems we have a lot of this type of blog this month...someone's comments being arrogant, hurtful, or negative. I think we all have lessons to learn about this, and I believe your discernment is correct. I also felt the Holy Spirit leading me to write mine regarding love and kindness among us.
Blessings to you! |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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When GOD'S children gather together and really praise, worship, adore, love, spread his WORD, you know the devil is going to attack from every angle that he can come up with.
We have a great ministry going here and we have love, respect, honesty and the true WORD of GOD being passed along. Little brother, DO NOT BE DISCOURAGED!!!!
Pick that hiney up and keep marching on... I am right there with you and you know JESUS is too!!!!
Love ya and I know where you live (LOL) |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| i do that i lot... i'm well practised in say " i'm sorry." |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Thank You for not leaving mychurch,you have been a blessing
to me too :) God Bless You |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| I appreciate your frankness. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Wow Mike! I am sure any comment I may make has been stated with all the comments you've received. I find it hard to believe that you stated anything in a mean or condescending way but I have learned that as we type what we are feeling and trying to state it in the written word, it can be misunderstood.
I am so glad you are not leaving. Satan is out about attacking and trying to destroy. We must stand strong in our Faith. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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I remember a sermon from many, many years ago titled, The Volunteer Syndrome or The Call of GOD.
A volunteer can get discouraged, slack, or quit. As long as they are appreciated and getting attention they are motivated. But when their efforts are unnoticed, or not appreciated, or (GOD forbid) criticized they always have the option of walking away.
But the person who is called of GOD, who has the fire of GOD burning within, continues thru the good times and the bad times, when they are getting pats on the back, when they are getting stabbed in the back. The person called of GOD gets their feelings hurt, pride wounded, character attacked, yet the call of GOD is greater than the insult suffered. The person called of GOD is a servant not a volunteer.
Mike, I am thankful that you are called of GOD to be here.
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Hey Mike, I'm glad you didn't leave,but if you did I would see you in church.
I gave you a star for not leaving.LOL |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Glad you stayed Bro! The other 190,000 + members here are very blessed by you and your lovely Lucy!
I have noticed that the more of a blessing someone is to people, the more the enemy comes in with an attack. You are being used of the Lord around here. Don't be discouraged, but take courage, my friend. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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I will go out on a limb and unanimously agree with everyone else in saying that I am glad that you didnt leave MyChurch. Who else would I learn so much from?? Your words are both inspiring and encouraging and I cant imagine MyChurch without you Bro!!
God Bless Ya Mike!
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| ok ill be the 227th person reading this and agreeing with all of the people who have been touched by your words of wisdom love and friendship ,you set an example most cant even begin to meet your dedication to this site and its people shows your love ,need i say more ??god bless you and im so very glad your still here to encourage not only me but all that you have touched ! |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| Mike,I too am grateful you did not leave. Your writng to me has always been an inspiration spoken in love and truth. Don't stop for just one, when hundreds of others are so blessed. Blessings! |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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I so appreciate the support shown in all these comments. Like I said in the blog, may we all be stronger ambassadors of Christ together!
Sue, speaking of attacks...LOL Thanks for your help today!
Penny, thank you kindly, and I'm sorry you've experienced some of the same. I pray you may also say that you have learned from hard experiences.
Misty, glad to have met you. Can't wait to see what your first profile pic will be!
Amen Higher Realm! I may feel innocent but the Lord is the only valid judge. Thanks for the scripture post.
PT, glad you stayed too. Man what a loss that would be, to MyChurch and to me.
Patti, bless you and thanks for the prayers....I certainly do need them.
Angela, speaking of rifts, lol. Thanks sis. I appreciate your passion for the truth of God's word.
Thanks so much Megan. And I hope you continue to stay with us, you make God smile! |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Lara... hehe, I'm afraid there will ALWAYS be rubbish this side of heaven. Just like there ain't no perfect church, there ain't no perfect Christian website. But I happen to believe the good on this outweighs the bad by....4,000 to 1? Chin up, my fellow saint!
DeeDee, bless you, thanks for the encouragement! |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Well so many would Be Missing You if You would have I would have had Tp fill the Vacancy of a Top Friend.
We Might not Message each other Much.
I am a Reader of so Many Blogs & I Try to Read Every last Blog on Here.
I do not comment all that much on all the Blogs out there but I do Love Reading Them all.
I do tend to get Way To Long Winded in leaving Comments when I Do Leave Them.
You offer a Good Balanced Word....We Love that You Stayed, Who else would We send Stars to?
& Your Wife looks Just Like My Wife Lucy. Really Linda is soooooo much like Lucy. |
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| You are loved brother....more importantly, by God!! |
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Mike, no wonder you are bearing much fruit, after that pruning ! Ouch !
As I was scrolling down, scanning all the posts and reading the comments, I remembered the closing scene from "It's A Wonderful Life" we are all here to encourage you Mike, and tell you we are glad you did not "leave" ! |
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| prayin for ya, bro and sis ! |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| I'm glad you stayed, your comments have meant a lot to me and I feel blessed when I see that you have left me one. |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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Bummer, I had a long list of comments typed out, by lost it all when I hit the submit button. 
Here goes again!
Tom, thanks bro! And don't believe anyone that tells you pruning doesn't hurt!
Michael, hehe, to the husband of another "Lucy", :-) thanks!
Toni, see ya at church, or at our place!!!
Matthew, thanks! And please be careful on that limb!
Gordon, words are so powerful when they come from you. Thank you.
Cheryl from GA, condescending? No. Disrespectful? Yes. I was not on my A-game, regretfully.
Dave, thanks for coming around. We miss you!
cella jean, bless you so much, dear sister. You and Del! No disappearing acts here!
Cathy, thanks! To you and your cats! Well, no, maybe just to you. :-)
Joe King, you aren't really joking, are you?  Hey kiddo, have you taken the love languages test yet? If not, get on it man! You aren't too young! |
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Thanks Jason, glad to be able to bless you, bro!
Thanks Bud! Appreciate that!
Mary, ok I'll pick that thang up and march on!! lol
Carol (and Mike), you wrote an excellent blog on being nice, we need those from time to time. Thanks!
Thanks MT4God, your granny is a very wise woman! :-) |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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| Thanks for staying and being willing and obedient Mr. Mike...we sure do love you around here...wisdome there is in ya...wisdom! :) |
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| Thanks MsSuga! God's wisdom is free for the asking!! (Jam 1:5) |
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| September 17, 2008 |
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First,say I say that as a member of the familly of God, I am so sorry to hear that you encountered such a negative person here on mychurch. When are supposed to be lifting each other up, sometimes you have to come face to face with others from time to time that completely lose sight of God's love, mercy and grace. Sometimes we are totally misunderstood and before you know it what started out as something helpful turns quickly into the exact opposite. We are all children of God and like all parents, our Father God is not always happy with the choices that we make or the things that we do and say. But there is good news, our Heavenly Father shows us mercy and fills us with His love. I wish that these kinds of things didn't happen, but let's face it...we are not God and we DO make mistakes. I am very proud and happy that you stood your ground, but more importantly that you put God first in your response. I too know what it feels like to be blind-sided by a fellow Christian who you trust only to find that they have lashed out at you for really no good reason. I am so glad to see that you were the "bigger" person in all of this and that you gave it over to God. By stating the truth about what God expects from us proved how strong your faith is and I want you to know that I support you and I will pray for the other person. |
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| September 18, 2008 |
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| Trina, that is such a beautiful outpouring of humble and discerning love! At first I responded in kind, and that is what I regret. Your offering of prayer for the other is just what the Lord what have us do, it's what I should have done too to begin with. We'll all run into bullies in life, it's how we respond to them that determines the quality of our relationship w/God. Bless you sister and thanks for your lovely post! |
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| September 18, 2008 |
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Mike, You are a mature man. A man with a huge side of Mercy to him. There will always be differences of opinions. This isnt my favorite site by far but its not bad. Its good. Every once in awhile the mercy side is going to wear down and actually thats good because its good to take a long hard look at everything for what it is.
Its actually hard to do that when you do not wish to offend anyone. Nomatter what you say people are going to be offended. Someone will. I dont sweat it. My days are over in the organized oiled monster. Its so much better this way. Now its filled with friends that we fellowship and share instead of stand, sit, stand, give money and leave.
It seems all the time someone comes my way and has had it with that stuff. I dont blame them. My response to them is fellowship with friends. Worship when you wish and just relax in the finished work of Christ. You dont need the business called fellowship to be a believer.
Christianity is abiding in Jesus Christ. Not a performance based religion that many people wish to make it. Sadly I speak to many people who really do not enjoy where they attend, yet they go out of an obligation. I think if you can enjoy it and get something out of it fine. But I wish I had not went for 30 years.
Dont sweat things Mike. We are to identify with Christ. That is supposed to be who we are. Not a Methodist, Baptist, Pentecostal etc. A Believer. You are a kool believer! |
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| September 18, 2008 |
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| Prophet/elder/reverend/apostle/poobah..... thanks, comment deeply appreciated! LOL, "stand, sit, stand, give money and leave." You're funny! Good point, this isn't for everyone. But God does call many into the discipline of formal worship, and those he calls love it....submission to style/taste that runs counter to natural preference. It's good exercise! Still, I won't argue that it's required for everyone. Bless you mister, glad you've found a niche in the kingdom. |
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| September 18, 2008 |
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| It is easy to take offense at someone else's point of view. There are times I feel, or think I know someone has the wrong outlook on something, I've found that we can seldom chance their mind!! Am glad you stayed with this site. |
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| September 18, 2008 |
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no sir im afraid your mistaken, what happened was you would make ruthless comments then my youth pastor would fire back and then you would delete your comment to make it look like he was the bad guy, you had no right to insult him or my sister (the 1 who wrote the blog) you had a different opinion and you wanted to make a point and even crossed the line at 1 time , and im sorry (i dont mean to be disrespectful) but its not a mature man who trashes the beliefs of a 16 year old girl and her youth pastor her blog "Shakespeare vs. the Bible" is what she firmly believes and for some "grown" man to go in and trash that........im sorry ..., thats just not right
you almost left MyChurch because of a fight that YOU started ,not my friends and family , YOU STARTED THAT FIGHT
and mychurch owners 1ce again I am not trying to be disrespectful or aggressive, but if your going to let him keep this blog up i think i have a right to argue on it, thats just my point of view please do not take this comment the wrong way , |
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| September 18, 2008 |
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im sorry sir but have a few questions for you , would you go into a baptist church telling them their pastor is not telling the truth? would you go to a baptist preachers house and tell him the KJV is incorrect?would you stand and a pulpit and bash the KJV? would you preach on a corner saying that the NIV is more truthful then the KJV?would you go into a youth rally and interupt the preacher to tell every 1 what the preacher just said is wrong?
cause in my point of view it seemed like you had no problem telling a christian young-lady her beliefs were false
(please dont take that as an insult, those were just questions and a fact) |
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| September 18, 2008 |
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and i must warn you Mike n Laura , if you delete my comments i will just keep posting them
(thats not a threat) |
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| September 18, 2008 |
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Once upon a time, I read a blog about wolves that appear in sheeps clothing...the blog was about a christian that was indeed a christian; however this person was in the flesh and did not respond to items appropriately in a way that would shine the love of Jesus.
Mr Mike, I have to say I have fellowshipped with you for 9 months now and in my objective opinion the fact is if others would get to know you...I have NEVER ran across a blog that had any other comment onthere, even in explaining, that was nothing but LOVE towards the other person.
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| September 18, 2008 |
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| mrs. cheryl (its nice to see you again) with all do respect , if you saw his past comments on my sisters blog you would know that there was no love in them what so ever |
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| September 18, 2008 |
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| you cant see them now cause he deleted them |
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| September 18, 2008 |
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Mike n Laura seem like good people ,,,,,,,when you are in agreement with them but when your beliefs are nt the same he is the 1 attaking
like in the blog he is talking about MY YOUTH PASTOR WAS DEFENDING HIMSELF AND MY SISTER FROM MIKES ATTACKS NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND |
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| September 18, 2008 |
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| I HAVE A STRONG FEELING THAT THE REASON SO MANY PEOPLE AGREE WITH YOU IS CAUSE THEY DONT KNOW THE WHOLE STORY, WELL I DO KNOW THE WHOLE STORY AND IT ALL STARTED WITH MIKE ATTACKING MY SISTER ON HER OWN BLOG , THEY DID NOT ASK YOU TO GO TO THAT BLOG , THEY DI DNTO COMMENT ON YOUR BLOGS , YOU ATTACKED AT HER BLOG |
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| September 18, 2008 |
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Dallas, these are the first comments you've ever written to me that were respectful, young man. Did you, or did you not, threaten me multiple times via pvt msg? Was your original profile deleted when you were reported for these threats, or was it not? Did MyChurch administrators ask you to leave mike n laura alone thereafter? You're only posting here b/c you were blocked from messaging us, months ago in fact.
I'd like you to take note, lad, that the blog above does not personally identify the subject to whom I reacted months ago. This blog wasn't about him, it was about me.
My only mistake was responding to your youth pastor at all. This is the mistake I blogged about, b/c I've seen others lately on MyChurch, whom I care about, responding to people that they would be better off ignoring. I never attacked your sister, that was a fabrication of your over-protective youth pastor.
All you have done is attack and harass me repeatedly, though I can forgive you (easily in fact, considering your anger is due to your being grossly misinformed). However, that doesn't mean I won't report you again for continued harassment. |
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| September 18, 2008 |
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first off my account was not deleted beacause of the threats it was cause of my age second they did not ask me to leave you alone, and third IF i get kicked off again i wont come back due to the change of mychurch, it doesnt seem very christian like to kick some 1 off just cause of a few mistakes i mean cmon even you mike , when you commented those insults, if you didnt delete then yourself then some 1 including me would have reported you and you would have gottne kicked off now let me tell you ALL the reason i am so mad about getting kicked off (they might kick me off so i might as well go down swingin) i had 1,825 views on my profile, i had 48 friends, i had about 26 blogs many of them poems and stories i wrote MYSELF and then 1 day they vanished, flat out GONE! now with all the friends, views, and blogs you had wouldnt you be furious if you got kicked off after all that hard work?
and the reason i was "aggressive" i will answer in a question,
" If a random MAN went to your sister, wife, etc. and insulted her and then insulted your pastor, youth pastor, mentor. etc. wouldnt you wanna kick the teeth out of the man who insulted them?? it may not be christian like but some of you comments werent so christian like, but hey! "for all have sinned and come shortof the glory of God"
so please dont take this the wrong way if you or the mychurch staff wants to say this comment is "aggressive" go ahead its a free country
I WISH THE BEST OF LUCK TO MYCHURCH
AND TO YOU MIKE
I GUESS THIS IS GOODBYE CAUSE IM PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAVE A MYCHURCH ACCOUNT TOMORROW CAUSE OF MY "AGGRESIVNESS"
SO BYE MIKE
BYE MYCHURCH
( i want to ask......WHAT HAPPENED TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH?????) think bout it people |
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| September 18, 2008 |
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glad you stayed Mike!!!
Some times all we can do is dust our feet, because if they don't want to know the truth, nothing you say or do will ever make them open their eyes, or ears.
I like how Peter put it:
These people are like dried up water holes and clouds blown by a windstorm. The darkest part of hell is waiting for them. They brag out loud about their stupid nonsense. And by being vulgar and crude, they trap people who have barely escaped from living the wrong kind of life. |
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| September 18, 2008 |
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Mike, are you starting trouble again dude?? Totally kidding! I have never met such a peace maker! |
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| September 19, 2008 |
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(For anyone confused and wondering who Dallas is, he is the younger brother of the author of the blog on which his youth pastor attacked me, and I responded in kind, regretfully. There have been lies told to Dallas about me, so I don't hold our young friend Dallas responsible for his words.)
Dallas, I completely forgive you for all you've written. I won't even delete your remarks above. God bless you. |
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| September 19, 2008 |
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Mike, I have never seen you act disrespectful to anyone. I dont take any credit to what Dallas has said. I know you too well and have too much respect for you. If you had a dispute with someone, and it amplified over time, I believe you had good reason to be whatever you were in that conversation on here. I have seen your willingness to be at peace in as much as you can. I have not witnessed you being divisive, not that divisive is always bad.
Dallas I would say to you, just what have you accomplished in this thread. Is Mike always right? None of us are, and that is something we all need to think long and hard about. I dont even care what the discussion was about at this point. If your statements were to be taken in and received and thought about, they would be written in a less venomous way. Let me suggest this for you if I may. Sit and think about questions that you can ask in your presentations that will help your side of the dispute instead of attacking type outbursts. I know Mike and I know he is not opposed to answering questions. Do you see how that could be a better way of truth? |
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| September 19, 2008 |
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sir, with all do respect, please dont tell me what i should do just cause this man is your friend, especially when you dont know the entire story sir |
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| September 19, 2008 |
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| I TOTALY AGREE WITH DAN i dont personaly understand why you made this blog, that fight was over and you brought it up again |
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| September 19, 2008 |
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Yeah I had that problem too once. My honesty and transparentness got me in trouble with my own family. What I wrote was not what I meant about the ex wife moving down, not that she would hit on my husband, once again. But it was frustration was because whenever we all were in the same state, our house was like a hurricane hit it. Even the oldest son named that hurricane.
I have also had some people that want to argue with me over some things and I just ignore them. For some of us poor fools, AA was the only way for us to even take a second look at Jesus. I have had some that probably have given up on me, and others who have deleted me as a friend. They probably thought I was bad news, and didn't want listen to my nonsense as I am selfish and try and make sense out of all the craziness we live in. I have even had people reject me as I ask to be their friend. That hurt a little, I am not that bad of a person.
I am just to the point anymore that I kinda say oh well, and say a prayer for them and their souls. If they can't love like Jesus told all of us to love each other, then they can just go suck on their limes and lemons and continue to be sour pusses. Sorry if that is vulgar, but that is how I feel. I took an AA saying and applied it to Mychurch a long time ago:
"Take what you need, and leave the rest. If it don't apply to you or you haven't walked a mile in their shoes, then be quiet. If you can't say anything nice, don't say nothing at all. But if you are going to sit there and say nothing when a teaching is needed, maybe you need to go back out the door. If you don't like it at all then you know where the door is and you can come back to AA (God) when you are ready to hear the truth."
I am glad AA got me to God. I would have never been able to show up on Judgement day and enter the Holy Gates. People who hurt you are in time, going to get their own awakenings, or they will just continue to be misserable.
There is only one Judge, and His name is God!
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| September 19, 2008 |
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| PS Mike, I kinda like it when you or others with wisdom correct me when I have a verse wrong, or something needs to be said in "Love" to help me grow up in Jesus. |
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| September 19, 2008 |
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| Bro. Your cool and wise I love how you go to me and tell me how I can do better you have made me a better child of God!!! |
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| September 19, 2008 |
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Ultra Violet, this blog was written anonymously, that is, the only personally identifiable character in the blog was ME. I even edited it once after posting, to make sure that the other folks couldn't be identified...again, b/c this was all about learning from my mistake, not anyone else's.
More than 50% of my blogs are written about my experiences with other people. Heck, maybe 80%, maybe 90 or more. Much of the time, those people are my family members. I don't ever write about others in such a way that they can be identified, unless I am asking for prayers for them, or they would want to be identified.
Life is ALL ABOUT our experiences with other people! Occasionally I see people I care about here on this site making the same mistake, going through the same difficult circumstances, that I went through. If there is anything I can do to save them trouble and pain, then I will do it. Even if it involves making myself look less than perfect. Well, especially if it makes me appear less than perfect. Hope you can understand that, sister. |
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| September 19, 2008 |
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Mike, I dont think you need to defend yourself. I recenly had a situation with a friend who had called me and also emailed and imed me regarding the bad actions of a man she had met from online. I tried to help as her crys were desparate... long story.... anyway she married the guy, and ran off with a friends money to go back up North. A Laptop, 1500 in money and a cell phone and huge bill. I got nothing ut grief.
Dallas one thing I have leared a long time ago is that you can always learn something from your elders.I am not perfect and neither is Mike here. I didnt see menion of any mans name in Mikes post here. None. No one would even know who it was if it were not for you having a tizzy fit. If he had mentioned the persons name, then yeah have at it. He didnt.
Even then, yelling screaming and you dont knows get us where? Nowhere. A debate is fine. Slander is not. I am not down on you. How you spoke is reserved for the real kads of this country. Obama, Kennedy's people that you can prove what they have done is wrong. I do not see that here. |
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| September 19, 2008 |
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NAY I ASK WHAT OTHERS HAVE ASKED AND NOT AJUST MIKE BUT PROPHET DUDE TOO OK
...........WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS BLOG??????
WAS IT TO SHOW YOUR ANGER?
WAS IT TO SHOW THE LESSON YOU LEARNED?
OR WAS IT TO BRING UP SOMETHING THAT WAS OVER LIKE WHAT ALMOST 7 MONTHS AGO??
?????????????????IT CONFUSES ME?????????????????/ |
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| September 19, 2008 |
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I think You should just reread this intial post Dallas. I see nothing wrong with it. It just might be that someone reading this might change their mind about leving. In all honesty you are apparently offended. You are carrying a grudge concerning something about your sister that I know nothing about. I do know that that was april and now its mid september. No names mentioned, but You are still offended and by his words and actions, Mike no longer seems to be.
Capital letters denotes yelling. So your last message has to be taken in internet trms as a long ranting yell.
Once again, Mike made the post about him. No other person is mentioned even in a way that we could even guess who it is. You made all the distinctions and if you look around, you are the only one carrying a weapon into the discussion on his blog. Does this make any sense to you Dallas?
He didnt mention names or people involved. You did
IMO since names arent mentioned then it is indeed a lesson learned blog.
The only thing I see here is You trying to defend your sister and some youth pastor which is a noble thing to do if done in the right way.
However their names arent even brought up in the original post
I just reread it again.....I dont see your point Dallas as he is putting a lot of blame on myself.
Do you want resoulution? The scriptures say that if two brothers who have ought against each other will admit their fault in it he will heal or restore them and can be friends.
Dallas Mike is not your enemy, your youth pastors or your sister. You can feel he is and wish to keep ahold of that wound, but you will only hut yourself. |
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| September 19, 2008 |
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| We all learn from our experiences. This is a good blog and thought provoking. |
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| September 19, 2008 |
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FYI - Dallas is a good kid, he just didn't have all the facts. I'm sure you'll be glad to know that he and I are now on good terms. Some person-to-person dialogue (via PM) was all that was needed. Glory to God!
Thanks for your comment, Golden Wings! |
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| September 19, 2008 |
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caps are not yelling sir , not for me, i put caps when i want to make sure you see what i say nt when im yelling
and once again sir i would like to point out you know nothing about this argument so with all do respect please just leave it alone , like mike said me and him have personal messaged and if you want i can tell you what i said to him
from end to begging , plz read from bottom to top (note: how my attitude changes as i go along)
| | | |  | That really blessed my day Dallas, thanks. Please drop me a line from time to time letting me know how your life is going. I'm interested, and will be praying.
God bless,
~mike
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On September 19, 2008 at 1:58pm, Dallas wrote :
thanks i would really appreciate it, to tell you the truth i guess i just told my self you were a bad person instead of just asking , i g2g
God Bless
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On September 19, 2008 at 11:33am, Mike n Laura wrote :
"i wanted to go to school in Oklahoma with my bestfriend and a girl i like and then live close to my brother but then next thing i knew God called my parents to mexico and now to tell ya the truth my life has been goin down hill ever since then"
Dallas, I am truly sorry to hear this. Really, I am. I will gladly say a prayer for your life to improve, in fact, I will add you to a regular prayer list if you like. A very good friend of mine just lost his job this week. I was brokenhearted when I first heard about it! But when I called him to ask how he was doing, he said "Great!" I was shocked. As it turns out, my friend wasn't looking at how bad things appeared to be for him, but rather the wonderful things God was going to do with his life from this point forward. I pray God has wonderful things in store for you, and I am sure he does!
You offer good advice. Make backup copies of everything! And indeed I have. Thanks for offering the good word.
~mike
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On September 19, 2008 at 11:07am, Dallas wrote :
ok well i just want to message you 1 more thing...... copy and paste ALL your blogs and save them on your computer **************************************************************************************** like in the real world, just when you think everything is goin great some 1 comes in and takes away your hopes and dreams, i wanted to go to school in Oklahoma with my bestfriend and a girl i like and then live close to my brother but then next thing i knew God called my parents to mexico and now to tell ya the truth my life has been goin down hill ever since then , then i got on mychurch to talk with friends and then they delete my account cause my aggression
i have to go finish school
ttyl
God Bless (the message above was editted cause i do not want to offend any 1)
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On September 19, 2008 at 10:39am, Mike n Laura wrote :
Dallas,
The purpose of the blog is stated in the blog itself. I also reiterated the purpose 2x in the comments section to others. In fact, I wouldn't have written the blog w/o stating the purpose. Just to let you know, I am going to delete your last comment, because I am afraid it doesn't come across very well. Nothing personal, and no, I'm not angry. Nobody else has gotten the impression that I'm angry, in fact, far from it. Today has been a wonderful day!
Have you read carefully everything I've messaged to you? Have you sought advice from your parents? I care about you, Dallas, and I care about everyone who reads what is posted publicly on this website. This is why your last comment will be deleted. I want to caution you, if I report you again, your profile could be deleted again. I am sorry this happened before, I don't want it to happen again. Please be considerate and thoughtful of others when posting.
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that is what we said in the chain of messaging i would post the others but at this point i am ashamed of the reckless things i said to him in those messages
, and being the kind person mike is, he did not report me for it
and i just want the mychurch staff to know that i am also sorry for my reckless behaivior please forgive me
God bless you (any 1 who reads this)
and God bless America
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| September 20, 2008 |
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| Dallas, I knew you were a good guy! |
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| September 20, 2008 |
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| Mike, One person that disagrees with you can never replace all the people here that love you. We can't please everyone. We never can and never will. I recently did a bible study away from my home. It looked as if God was increasing the study, but after only one study the person that had the idea to have me there said that he and his mother could do the study in the event that I couldn't. Red flags went up immediately. When I called the mother a few days later to inform her that I may have a building to use she said that God told her to take over the bible study and that it wasn't necessary for me to come back. I had left a collection plate there and when I went to get it back I said good luck with the study and God bless you with a smile. They do not know I incorporated the church and may have the use of the building 3 times a week for a church. People have to be careful with saying that God said. The first bible study I gave they said that God said it was from him. Mike you have given me some good words of advice which I accepted and heeded to. This is where God needs you. Shalom |
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| September 21, 2008 |
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in my opinion yelling is when you put "!" at the end
for example
wow!!!!!!!!!!!! =yelling
WOW=not yelling
WOW!!!!!!!!=yelling |
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| September 23, 2008 |
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| All I can say Mike, is that I am glad that you didn't leave MyChurch. And you learned from this, and it brought four great blogs to the surface! |
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| September 23, 2008 |
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M I K E !!!!!
You alley cat! I just saw this. Course, you could be right... |
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| September 23, 2008 |
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Amen to that, Deb. Thanks!
Joey, 'bout time you showed up. lol |
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| September 23, 2008 |
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You are an alley cat... |
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| November 11, 2008 |
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Mike, I recently was going to leave...sick of it all...sick of the arguments...sick of people acting like they know the intents of your heart when they've never met you, etc.
That is a flaw in me. I will just bail, rather than argue. An argumentative person wants to be right, above love, and everything else.
we are all different, and you know what...God loves us all...even the arguers!
Of course, I have only met a few arguers here:)
other than that...Apure heart's comment above really spoke to me.
And Mike, you have always reached out to me and have been such a kind, sincere friend!
Love you and your family. |
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| November 11, 2008 |
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| Cathy, I hope you never never leave....or if you do, give me your email address. (Oh wait, I think I already have it.) Like I said in the other blog, I HATE IT when people leave, especially people in which I've invested time and my heart. When they go, they take a little of me with em. |
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| November 11, 2008 |
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I'm in!
No way I'm leaving now:)
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| November 22, 2008 |
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| I hate pain, insults, verbal abuse, spiteful retorts and such like. I love those who have scars on their chest from such experiences. They are sweet and gentle souls. The experience will be awful. The fruit will be sweet. |
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| November 22, 2008 |
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| Wow Grant....that is an amazing insight. I have scars (though in the grand scheme, they're nothing compared to the physical scars of those who have suffered torture etc. in the name of Jesus) |
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| June 01, 2009 |
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| Mike, I think we can restart the discussions on this topic. This is a everlasting topic! |
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| June 01, 2009 |
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| I definitely learned from the experience. Fortunately I haven't repeated it. Have you had a similar one Rag? |
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| June 01, 2009 |
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Some one created an account to tell me that Indian culture offers more to the world. As an Indian, I had ashamed India by blogging here on mychurch. Initially I was put off. Later I too learnt lot of things out of his/her message. I was very sorry to learn he/she did not know 'light' and was not enlightened. I really feel sorry for the person who wrote to me. I could not know more about the person too. |
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| June 01, 2009 |
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| Wow Rag, that sounds sorta disappointing, though maybe it worked out in the end? If I know you, they probably didn't go away too angry. Maybe even touched by your graceful demeanor? |
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