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Minister Of Poetry
September 30, 2008
Todd, I thought carefully about the questions you posed and came up with the following (truthfull) comments.
In no specific order LOL
1) due to past painfull memories of misguidance!
2) YES if I could find a church that was obedient to Christs teachings!
3) MORE WORSHIP. MORE TESTIMONIES, LESS POLITICS!
4) Regular church goers acccepting new CHRISTIANS even before they have had their first milk!

My opinion Todd thats all! Love Stushi!
Cindy
September 30, 2008
Bro Todd: I love the church that God has placed us in. I would love to see home study groups there though, I do so miss them from our other church.
I think that one of the obstacles with our church, is where it was.....meaning that it was not real visitor friendly, people didn't feel welcome in jeans and stuff.....it's more contemporary now, including the music....but getting someone in the door to see that.....hmmm.
I'll give an example of our church before that, we loved the style.....contemporary with traditional music mixed, home study groups, come as you are dress, and relaxed atmosphere with coffee in church....preacher sat on a stool, not behind a pulpit.
Brother Todd
September 30, 2008
Stu:  That is great imput.  Especially number 3!  I might even take and use that as a motto.  On #4 did you mean not accepting new Christians?  or accepting new Christians is a problem.  Meaning they need to be taught and indoctrinated before being accepted into fellowship?
Brother Todd
September 30, 2008
Cindy:  Small groups and a relaxed atmosphere  gottcha.  Thanks!
Cindy
September 30, 2008
ohhhhhhhhhhh and something neither do, but I saw on a mission trip in IN.......DISCIPLESHIP of new believers!!!!!
Minister Of Poetry
September 30, 2008
Todd I meant when "grown up"  Christians look down upon or pass judgement on "Babies",, It happens man and that is one reason I left my last church!
Brother Todd
September 30, 2008
Stu:  You are sooooo right.  Babies are messy and smelly and get into mischieve and need a lot of attention, but they bring so much love, joy, and life into a sitiuation it is infectious.  I whole heartedly agree...it is a very sad commentary on our churches if we do not love one another.  
Brother Todd
September 30, 2008
Cindy:  I got that covered "discipleship"  that is what Phatdaddy's do best!  :)  I will say that any church that is not disciplling theire people are not fulfilling the Great Comission.  Go ye into all the world and make disciples teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded.   Got it!  Thank you both for your great input!
Angela
September 30, 2008
1) I go every Thursday and Sunday unless I'm physically unable. 2) covered that 3) The word preached without watering it down!!! Less evangelizing from the pulpit more equipping so the Church can go out into all the world and preach the Gospel effectively. I got more if you need them but it looks like you already have some very good suggestions above! 4)People have a preconceived notion that it's boring... I don't get it but that what they think. Oh and they think they don't need it...that is my reasoning behind equipping the saints better!!
Prophet Jay
September 30, 2008
Well Brother Todd my main issue with churches I've been to is real fellowship outside of the church. i don't mean like 2 or 3 brothers and sisters meeting somewhere to have a bite. I mean something consistant where the whole church participates. Something that everyone would like doing. At the last church the Pastor wanted to have a men's night out at a bowling alley and although I don't like bowling I thought it was a good idea. Then the women proposed a challenge to the men and instead of a men's night out it became a competition between the men and the women and it turned me off. Not that anything was wrong with that but when you come up with a plan you need to stick with the plan.

A good idea is to reserve a spot every week at a friendly's just to sit and have ice cream and make it fun. This is what is missing in a lot of churches. I know when I get into the building God has for me I'm going to make it a goal to have a night of fellowship evey week outside of the church, without fail. Let other people see christians together outside of the church having fun!
Caleb
September 30, 2008
Men and women of God having fun together, what a concept!!!!!!

OK my job for 21 years is to supervise data collection through surveys and I admit, do not like taking them. LOL

1.  Why don't you go to church? I do go to church, but I am not to religious about it. I get ansy just listening and not participating. I always preferred the Sunday's schools before the actual service.

2.  If those objections/problems/obstacles could be overcome would you go to church then? (Be honest) I would go more if the timing was better (service starts a 10 AM) for my kid who on weekends do not go to sleep early enough to get up early on Sunday and I do not like to go alone (silly me but is true).

3.  If you go to church regularly, what would you like to see happen that is not happening that is "biblical" as you see it?  Limit to 2 or 3 at most. LOL. More fellowship without so much prompting by the Pastor.

4.  If you go to church regularly and invite people to come to church with you, what are the biggest objections/obstacles you encounter? Right now the main objection is distance. I travel 40 minutes to attend Church.

Voice in DC
September 30, 2008
1. I go every Sunday and Wednesdays when I am in town.
2. Doesn't apply.
3.  We have a wonderful service, awesome worship that stays with you, great teaching, people getting saved and baptised every week.
4.  "We don't go to THAT kind of church". Always makes me want to ask...what kind is that...the kind that has a vibrant youth group, the kind that preaches the word in such a way that you will be challenged, the kind that takes up an offering right then and there for someone who can't make their rent, the kind that...well, you get the idea...
Mike n Laura
September 30, 2008

#3 - Our church has no diaconate. When we were meeting in a school until recently, we had to set up/tear down every Sunday morning, and the "deacons" were the guys on the setup crew. I know, pretty lame. Also... MORE emphasis on small groups. Currently about 40% of our regular attenders do them, I'd like to see that number at least double! ALSO... I believe in church membership. We instituted membership 3 yrs ago, then our leaders backed off w/o informing the congregation. So once again we are just a bunch of people who happen to go to the same church most of the time....

#4 - People are too busy, or not really "ready to take that step", whatever that means. Yep, those are the tops.

Interesting survey Todd, hope it helps!

 

Brother Todd
September 30, 2008
Everyone thank-you for your input I value it soooo very much!  I hope more will respond, but I can see some recurring themes here that will definitely be incorporated. 
Birdie Courtright
September 30, 2008

Great Questions, Brother Todd! And the answers here seem to have a consistant tone--people want to learn, feel and express the love of Christ--at least those that have answered seem to be relaying that message
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Mike--We are experiencing that 'set up-tear down' quandry ourselves right now. Although we are not in a school, we are still in a temporary setting and it is very demanding. At first it pulled out the best in people, now it's a challenge--and I'm sure it will continue to morph through it's phases until we are stabilized again. BUT, we are in a GREAT place and it's been really good for us to realize that it is WORK to work the Word, it pulls you out of your comfort zone for real! The bonding that has taken place through the demands of relocation has brought us into unity and a position of strength that can only be forged through team work--we really have learned that we are each vital to the point that if one falls out, it's a critical hit to all so we have learned to value each other far more than when we just sat next to eachother each Sunday morning--giving the obligatory hug.

Dan--I love your suggestion about an offering for members in need. I once went to a church that did that and it was so wonderful! You truly felt knitted to one another--knowing you were giving to solve a problem, and if you were ever need others were there to help you out. In fact, we talked about this at lunch--the special bond that is created when you are in a group that truly lives "whatever I have is yours"...that is a very strong bond! 

My Answers: 1& 2. I love my church--but I stuck with it, pushing through my personal feelings at times and PRAYING through those times for Christ's love for the church--what kind of love is this...that He would die for this dysfunctional organization that calls it's self by His name? Well--it finally dawned on me that the perfect church is elusive in this life; it is what we attain only through His blood covering, the garments we exchange for dirty rags once the show is over. Until then, we are all just sinners saved by grace and some require more grace than others. I was once one of those who required much grace...but in the church....the same church for 12 years now...I have need less of His grace and now I can extend mercy...understanding how much it means to recieve it.  3. Less of a consumer mentality--more of a heart felt, burning passion to disciple others. I gree with the intimacy of small groups. I think it's vital to building relationships and effective discipleship. 4. Distrust--fear of judgement, less of God than of people. People are usually quick to say, "oh, I believe in God" but they are very distrusting of the church. They believe that God is merciful--but thay don't see the church as equally merciful. Acceptence and love...right where they are this minute is HUGE!     

Ed
October 01, 2008
I can answer questions 3 & 4:  #3 -- I would like to see less traditional, less programmed, less predictable worship services.  For me, a well performed inspirational song leads me into a comfortable fellowship with God.  For example, during the last performance of the Jarman Opry in my hometown (www.thejarmanopry.com) Debra sang the most inspirational rendition of "It Is Well With My Soul" that I have ever heard.  I felt like worshipping God right there in the theatre!    #4 -- The biggest objection that I encounter when inviting people to church is the big "turn off".   They have this attitude, "Oh...church, no thanks.  Been there, done that, didn't like it."  Specifically, I don't think "church" in the traditional sense, connects to them and what's going on in their lives.  It doesn't give them any answers to what they are going through.   
Cheryl Whit
October 01, 2008
I do attend church, but would not if I had not have been raised in church...people are too judgemental it seems as you share about your life or as they don't think you are doing how they preceive a situation should be.
revstarr
October 01, 2008
Todd- Now, I got to rember these questions...

1 & 2 -yes, I go to church regularly.
3- I would like to see my church have a more actice minstry to young adults like myself, who have young children.  Also a more active couples ministry, that wouldn't make my husband feel left out because he wasn't reared in the church.

4- Most people feel we X-istians are "fake", "hollow", hypercrites.  They don't attend church b/c they see many of us--leaders included living carnal lives.  Also, the church doesn't minister to their pain, abandonment issues, etc. (basically a lack of pastoral care & counseling--by the way most pastors I know have not been trained and are not gifted to do pc& c)  We preach judgemental fire/brimstone sermons, and we force old school teachings on people i.e. necassity of tithing & attending "sunady school".  
revstarr
October 01, 2008
Also I belive the heart of any  ministry is based on prayer and we just don't do enough of those good "ole" prayer meetings that the early church did, which caused the church to grow in leaps and bounds in the book of Acts.
Angela
October 01, 2008
hehe I was just coming back to tell you our church just started prayer meetings a few months ago, once a month! Seeing how prayer is the work, I'd say it's very importaint! Revstarr was ahead of me though.
MarJay HizWay
October 02, 2008
Great blog Brother Todd...Here's my response....

1
.  Why don't you go to church?

Currently I attend my Sabbath Day Church service live on the internet...The Headquarter church is in Chicago, Illinois, though they have others churches in Georgia, New York, Texas, Michigan, Minnisota, and Tennessee.  I know without a shadow of a doubt that  this is where I belong....Maybe GOD will move me to Chicago or one of these other states to be there personally..time will tell. God is blessing the Israel of God...and we are about to move into a brand new building that will seat over 1,000 people. I currently live in Maryland.

2.  If those objections/problems/obstacles could be overcome would you go to church then? (Be honest) 

If I was in Chicago or one of the states listed above, I would indeed go...All of them teach the same thing...THE BIBLE...nothing more...nothing less.


3.  If you go to church regularly, what would you like to see happen that is not happening that is "biblical" as you see it?  Limit to 2 or 3 at most. LOL. 

I attend Church every Sabbath Day...and my church does *everything* according to the Word of God...and not the Traditions of Men.

4.  If you go to church regularly and invite people to come to church with you, what are the biggest objections/obstacles you encounter?

 Well every Sabbath Day my mom and dad attend church with me...with their bibles in hand and we are in service for 2 1/2 hours...we get the opening scripture read...The choirs sing...The adult choir in the first service...and the children sing also on the second service....and then my pastor teaches for 2 hours.....nothing but THE WORD OF GOD.....The biggest obstacle in getting people to my church is that most people are caught up in the TRADITIONS OF MEN...and not THE WORD OF GOD..They are used to being entertained in church and not taught the Word of God...They can bearly sit still for one hour to hear the Pastor preach....and most of the time they are not learning anything, because most Pastors will give one scripture and then expound on that ONE SCRIPTURE giving their opinon of what it means (more so a pep talk)......when you come to my church...which is a BIBLE STUDY CLASS...we LEARN THE WORD OF GOD....Bring your bible...because you will go to about 30 scriptures....line up line...precept upon precept...

Most people aint' ready for that...They want fairy tales..(smile)

Brother Todd
October 02, 2008
Thank you all for your thoughtful insights. Starr and Angela Jesus said, my house shall be called a house of prayer. 
Angela
October 02, 2008
hehe Todd I just left that in part of my comment on your other blog!
Brother Todd
October 03, 2008
Great minds think alike.