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I was watching some television while working tonight and decided to not watch crap and take in a sermon while at work. So I came across Benny Hinn which I normally don't watch. But he was doing one of his ministry training conferences so I decided to keep it there. He was on the topic that God is not the blame for everything. Which I agree. I believe a lot of time we blame god for things when we forget that there is a devil trying to shake us up constantly in our lives.
He was saying that a lot of bad things happen because the fall/sin of man. Not because god has anything to do with it. (i don't want to quote everything he said because I only want to write what I specifically remember what he said, i don't want to misquote anything). LIke for example you cheat on your spouse. Well that has nothing to do with god. It's your fault for letting yourself fall into temptation. God has nothing to do with that. again I agree. He quoted scriptures how god is always good and only good comes from god. and we have to accept that god is not involved in everything.
Ok here is where it gets sticky. Benny Hinn then refers to a drunk driving accident. He says that if your child goes out and gets hit/killed by a drunk driver - god had nothing to do with that. It wasn't god's will - things just happen. That god had nothing to do with the driver giving into the devil/alcohol. Now I had a problem with that. You see the person he was referring to was an actual pastor sitting in the pulpit whose son was killed by a drunk driver. He turned to the pastor and said, it was not gods will for your son to die. Things just happen. It just happened that his son was driving in the same aread as this man who so happened to surrender to the devil that evening. That we have to come to terms with that.
The pastor then takes the microphone and says he struggled with that for a year and said that while people were constantly quoting him scriptures on how it was probably gods will for his son to die early - that god was saving him from something worse - that he just realized that things just happen and god had nothing to do with that.
ok so this is where I am shocked. because isn't god the one who breathes life into us and takes it away? only god right? so then how could his son have been killed and god have nothing to do with it or it not be gods will? the boy was a believer a son of god, saying that god had nothing to do with it is like saying god just abandoned him and let him die.
while i believe that god doesn't make bad things happen in our lives, but he still allows us to go through things for his purpose. For example, when my husband was layed off from work and we were down to our last $150.00 a year ago just 3 months after moving here. That was horrible, but if that didn't happen my husband would probably not know the Lord today. So how can I sit and say God had nothing to do with that? How can I say that him losing his job just happened and it wasn't gods will.
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| June 22, 2007 |
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I once heard (on MyChurch) someone differentiate between God's will and God's plan. His will represents His heart's desire (yes, God has a heart, can you believe it?!)... His plan takes into account all the bad choices made by mankind, in His omniscience. So looking at it this way, I wouldn't say God wanted the pastor's son to die that way. Did God cause it? I don't think I would go that far. Did He allow it?? Yes, I would say He did, since scripture is clear that God is an active participant in our world.
This is my understanding. I don't have the specific scriptures to back this up right now, perhaps a pastor would like to supply a few? Good, thought-provoking question, maryann! ~mike |
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| June 22, 2007 |
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Maryann,
that is a tough question. I will give you my thoughts. Do I believe that God was with that young man when he died? Absolutely! God in no way abondoned him. Since he was saved, He is now with God, and the results of him living through the wreck could have been much worse (we don't know, but God does). I was almost killed in a wreck when I was 19, but I was not saved then. Thanks to my mother's prayers and God's plan, the Lord saved my life in that wreck. I accepted the Lord when I was 27, and have been doing missions work and ministering with my family since then. The thought that if I had died when I was 19 is terrifying, because I understand now that I would have gone to Hell, even though I was a "good kid".
Another example, several years ago, my wife had a miscarraige. It was the most painful thing we had ever been through together. For a short while I was angry with God, but He forgave me. As other pastors began to talk, pray, and minister to us, I realized 2 things... One..God knows best. Two...There had been a type of generational curse in play that needed to be broken (and has been broken by the power of the blood of Jesus). SO, to me God is involved in everything..we may not be able to understand things all the time (that would be trying to put ourselves on God's level) so we just have to put all our trust and faith in God. He is our father, He wants us to come to Him even when we're angry at Him, just as I want my girls to come to me even if they're mad. God loves us each so much, we sometimes just need to immerse ourselves in His loving presence and not try to understand why things happen. Of course, that is after asking the Holy Spirit to help you discern any spiritual problems (attacks, witchcraft, generational curses, etc.).
We need to confront any problems like that, and then just depend completely on the one true God.
Hope that helps, sorry it's so long.
Rogelio |
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| June 22, 2007 |
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| Wars have certainly been fought over this subject and nations divided. I will only say that it takes a lot of Bible Study and that God is in total control! |
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| January 15, 2008 |
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| I have a radiacally different opinion on the matter. I don't think us as humans really have any right to question why God allows us to suffer. The book of Job is a good illustration of this. Job suffered more than we could possibly imagine although being righteous and blameless before God. And after pondering over some unhelpful advice from his so-called friends who insisted he had done something to deserve his suffering, Job questioned God as to why he was suffering. And God didn't even give Job an answer to his question. Instead he put him back in his place by asking him question after question about who was the one who created the world and sustains it at every moment. You see Job then realised that he as a man who wasn't capable of subdueing creation even for a day had no authority to question the will of the living God. God choses to reveal to us what we need to know. And through suffering it is important that we recognise that God is the one who knows the reason why we are suffering, and its not for us to know. But rather understand that God knows and fear him, for that is wisdom. Through our suffering we should draw near to God and gain a deeper appreciation of his love and sovereignty over us. |
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