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| What Backslidden Looks Like... |
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| “But I have this against you, that you have left your first love. Remember therefore from where you have fallen, and repent and do the deeds you did at first; or else I am coming to you, and will remove your lampstand out of its place—unless you repent.” -Revelations 2:4&5 NASV Most of us, when we think of a backslidden Christian, we envision one that has left the church, and is back into the party scene, perhaps, or one who has left their spouse “just because”, or goes from speech “seasoned with salt” to the “f” word coming out of their mouth, without conviction. These are the ones we tend to either judge very harshly, or intercede for very seriously. So what of the person like described in the above Scripture? What of the person, who may not jump right back into hardcore, visible sin, but stop praying, stop reading the Word, lose their fire and desire and vision? They simply “draw back.”? The Lord says, “I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I would that you were cold or hot. So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth.” (Rev. 3:15&16). So, why is it we don’t take this “type” of backsliding, seriously? Why is it that a believer has to go to the extreme for people to say, “Oh, they’re backslidden!”? We are living in a time of a church that is chalked full of backsliders. Like the Word says, in the last days, the love of many will “wax cold” (Matt. 21:12), yet so many of us don’t realize we’re backslidden because we think, ‘well, I’m not out getting drunk or sleeping around or anything”. Yet the Word also says that it’s sin when we know to do something [good] and we don’t do it. Like me; I know that I should get up every morning before my boy’s awake, and spend some time praying and reading the Word. Because I haven’t been doing this (out of laziness & discouragement), truly, no nicer way for me to put it: I’m in sin. I’ve tried to tell other Christians that I’m backslidden and yet they don’t seem to take it seriously, most of them. One even hit me playfully, and said, “Oh, don’t be silly!” The thing is, I wasn’t being silly! How can we evaluate our walk? Well, one thing would be by the amount of fruit evident in our lives. If we aren’t producing much, that’s an obvious giveaway. Are we growing? Are we producing more fruit than we had before? Are we closer to God now than we were, say, a year ago? Like that scripture I began with said, have we lost our “First love”? Are we doing the things we did when we first fell inlove with Jesus, or have we lost our zeal and drawn back? Most importantly, because it ties into all the above is, are we regularly (as in daily) spending intimate time with the Lord, in prayer and in the Word? If we don’t have a hunger like before, we gotta keep praying for it; seeking for it. Ask the Lord to put a hunger for Him and His Word in us, then do our part, even if we gotta force feed ourselves for a time. If someone tells you they’re backslidden (and you can tell they don’t want to stay that way), take it seriously, and do whatever you can do to encourage them, and PRAY for them, of course. I know something’s gotta give. I get discouraged when I don’t see results, then I give up. Then I try again. Then I give up again. The cycle needs to stop. I need to keep pressing on…. I know there are MANY Christians in the exact same boat as me. So I’d like for any of you who’ve been there and are now “fired up” again, to share how you rekindled your First Love. I would appreciate all the different testimonies, and I KNOW there are others who would, as well. When I hear that others have been there, and come through victorious, it encourages me that I, too, can get there. |
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| January 15, 2009 |
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Lara, first of all, if you tell someone you're backslidden, they should take you serious! You see when I became a christian I was 31. Well, when I was 7 I walked to the alter during a revival and the preacher said a prayer. I realized at 31, I had walked to the alter because I didn't want to be the only kid left on the pew.....I didn't have a clue about what I was doing. When I tried to come out of the choir at 31, to get things straight with God, a lady blocked me and looked at me like I was crazy! You see, she had been in the church that day when I was 7, so she JUST knew I was saved already. Hehehehe, good thing i'm a pushy person, cuz I pushed right on by her, and invited the Lord into my heart for real :) Backslidden, ohhhhhh been there many times, and knowing me, will be again. Yeah, I too get lazy, that's one of my downfalls. The other, which is the biggest, is when things aren't going good.......duhhhhhhhh, that's when I need God the most, but it's when I withdraw from him the most. love you lady! |
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| Great word, I've backslided too, but am not gonna again |
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| Lara I would absolutly love to tell you how I became fired up again... however... I dont have a story to tell yet. I durrently find myself in what you discribe as "lose their fire and desire and vision"... I'm not sure how I got here... lifes trials I suppose, getting all caught up in the current mess my oldest daughter is in ... waiting for an answer or a solution but giving up because it is taking so long.... I just dont know. Its my fault though of that I am sure... I'm not complaining so much as explaining... but I guess it also sounds like I'm making excuses...haha... at any rate, I definatley agree... it is a very dangerous form of back sliding. Thank you for writing about it. God bless you sis. |
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| To all my ladies (Cindy, Megs, Robin & Marcella), wow. I opened a can of worms that needed opening, me thinks. I was just reading a Proverb tonight that says, "Where there is no guidance, the people fall, but in the abundance of counselors there is VICTORY." (11:14) So I'm glad i came out with this. We need some of our fired up believers to get their butts over here, read this, and give us some guidance and counsel so we, too can get VICTORY! We can do this....together!!!! |
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| GOD IS THE WAY HE'S GOT ME FIRED UP I BELIEVE THAT EACH AND EVERYDAY I GET THAT VICTORY FROM GOD TO BE THE PERSON I AM..........SO WE ALL DO IT TOGETHER....... |
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| January 15, 2009 |
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Lara, we're on the same wavelength. I hear what you're saying about the first love lost. It happens gradually, and a lot of Christians may be in backsliding mode w/o even realizing it! According to the verse you quoted, the solution is to "repent and do the deeds you did at first"! Of course, that includes reading the word (discipline yourself!), praying, and serving others. Can we do these things and feel emotionally dry? I'm sure we can! But somewhere along the way emotions will return. Oh, and perhaps the most important thing IMO is...appreciation. When we lose our love, we've lost our appreciation too. In fact, the appreciation probably goes first. It's hard to love someone you don't appreciate. In fact, I think it's impossible!! I don't mean to trivialize backsliding by suggesting it's easy to turn around. First you have to realize you've backslidden. You also have to want to turn around. Many folks don't, tragically. At one point in my life, God had to literally remove me from church completely in order to restore my appreciation of it. Since coming back, I have had fire, vision, and passion ever since. And I don't think I'll ever end up in that place again, though I try to remain vigilant and humble, lest I start to slip. Powerful first blog, Lara. Thanks for your honesty! |
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| Lara,
If you took a survey of all of your friends on MYCHURCH 100% of the honest ones would tell you that they can relate to your description of your current position. But it's kinda like asking how to get the passion back into your marriage. The answer is that a mature love just isn't the same as new love. When we first come to Christ it feels sooo good compared to the sin sick state that we are in when we arrive that it is easy to make the mistake of thinking that initial rush is what it is all about. When my wife and I first started dating, I couldn't go two hours without calling and would never think about spending a saturday without her. But today I love her more than I was capable of then, but I can go half a day now and a saturday playing golf ain't bad once in a while! LOL!
When the initial fire seems to be gone, we all need some guidance and support. Some counciling and instruction. But in the end we need to stay open to new places that HE has us that just may feel different. Once the flesh has been healed, it's common to take our new temple for granted and a day or two goes by that we don't pray and the sky doesn't fall and the next thing you know....you look and sound like worldly folk start feelin' like your walk is a scam. But check out 2 Cor. 12:9. Why does Paul have that thorn? Does GOD know we are going to crave the taste of our own satisfaction again? But I'm getting ahead of myself. Told you I had a struggle he is pushing me through right now that I will write about later tonight.
I will pray for you because that's what you do for folks you love. Thats what you do when someone reaches out and thats what you do when you remember that somebody prayed for you. You are not silly, just growing. |
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Denise, details! I want more details, girl! lol I know "God", but fine details! :D You got the fire, you send some this way!!! Mike, everything you say makes sense, I just wonder how many more months of getting my butt out of bed and spending time with God--how many months before I actually feel something???? It's like I've done that for months and months, to no avail in the past. It stinks. I'm doing something wrong. |
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| Bhek, thank you. Prayers are def what I always need. :-) And I'm looking forward to reading your blog!!!! |
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I am right there with you sister, I know how you feel. I remember when I first accepted Christ I threw and got rid of alot of things that might hinder my walk. I would always have my bible out and watch Christian programs, I went to morning bible studies. But as the yrs have gone by I have slowly putting my bible aside, keeping it by me but not ready it like I know I need to. I would get into a bible study but let my work get in the way. I was always at church Sundays and Wednesday nights services and now I only go to on Sunday mornings because I do not discipline myself to get the sleep I need when I get off work Wed. mornings so that I can get to church on Wed. nights. When I cry out to God because I want that fire again I trully mean it but then I let the flesh get the better of me. I am not doing anything worldly but I am not doing for God what I need to. Right now I am in a bible study and the women that are there and the most awesome, loving and encouraging bunch of God loving and living sisters so I know that I will soon find that fire again because I have people that are praying for me. I will keep you in my prayers my friend because I love you very much and we need to do that for eachother.
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| Oh, Lara! I am so there with you! I have been struggling and lax! I have been seeking tho, to get back on track. I would like to elaborate but I am just too tired tonite. Work has been grueling and I am pooped! Dear girl, I just want to for tonight to let you know that I am right beside ya and I am sooooo. glad you are back....and seeking! We know the truth and we know where we need to be... love you! God's peace!! |
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| I GUESS HAVING PARENTS BEING RAISED TO LOVE THE WORLD AND THE PEOPLE IN IT.........AND PARENTS WHO SHOWED LOVE ALL THE TIME GOING TO CHURCH AND HAVING RELIGION EVERY DAY OF YOUR LIFE IT MAKES YOU FIRED UP.......WE WERE TOLD GOD IS WITH YOU EVERYDAY OF YOUR LIFE ITS HOW YOU CHOOSE TO FOLLOW AND TO BELIEVE.......GOD HAS BEEN GOOD TO ME ALWAYS MY HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND TIME NO MATTER HOW THINGS GET I PUSH ON AND STILL DO TODAY......MY KIDS HAD RELIGION AND GO TO CHURCH WE ALL DO.....I LOVE GOD ALWAYS WILL ......HE IS MY LIFE ALWAYS..........HE COMES FIRST IN MY LIFE........I WORK I GIVE IT MY ALL EVERYDAY OF MY LIFE...........I LOVE YOU MY FRIEND GOOD BLOG. |
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| I lost my first Love about 12 years ago. I was discouraged by spending so much time alone and not managing it well. Sometimes I came home from work and sat for hours doing nothing til he got home from his ministerial duties. Then in 2001 my Dad went home to be with the Lord and things got worst, I lost my joy, praise and the will to worship. I went to church every Sunday for three services and nothing got through. I stopped serving in my commitments at church, I was a mess. It took a great toll om my marriage and relationship with him and my body. On July 1, 2008 he left and there my new journey began. It was a reality shock, if I didn't want to be with me why did he. I began to seek my First Love again. I cried out to Him and He heard my prayers. I began to feel a Freedom and saw God again. He restored my Joy, Peace, Love and Faith. My relationship with Him became Intimate and closer than it has been in a long long time. I am still rekindling my First Love with God and He is faithful to His Promises. I've come a long way and I've got a long way to go, but I am so in Love with Him that I will never let Him go and I'm so glad He didn't let me go. |
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BTW: Lara, stay encourage. We really love you here at MC and are so glad you are back.
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Hey Dora, I tell ya, who you got rooting for you and standing with you as far as fellow Christians, really does help. There's a reason the Bible says to encourage each other, daily. I am believing with you for FIRE!!! Holy Ghost fire. debra, I'd like to say I'm "glad" I'm not alone, but I'd rather there not be so many of us in this place. But it's time we did what we gotta do, eh? I just need some glimmer of hope that things will really dramatically change! Denise, wow.I don't know what else to say. I wonder if my parents had known how to show love to us, if it'd have been different for me, because I was raised and immersed in the Word: youth group, AWANAS, church twice on Sundays, all the functions, daily family devotions, always saying grace before we ate....constant. But that is nothing without the love of Christ being shown. But most parents nowadays have so much baggage...like myself. I got "religion" alright. Just no relationship. Terry, yeah, through hardships. I have to admit it's easier when you don't have a spouse constantly bringing out the worst in you. I found that that was where my walk became a whole lot harder. I wanna be right there with you, praising God. I've had my share of storms, and yet....we are all so different. Thanks for sharing, Terry, and thanks for the warm welcome back. Thanks, all for sharing your stories and being so transparent here. I don't like wearing a mask, nor does God like it. He can move when we all confess our faults and sins and admit where we are going wrong, and then we can work together and be strong again, in Him. |
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Lara, I have done SO MUCH praying on this very thing. Yhe one I had doing is taking sin too lightly. Jesus has been the one to boot me out of bed. I wouldn't get out to pray to read God's word. I admit I have slipped, but Not turned away. Yes, when you don't see results you give up, repent, only to give up again. Jesus doesn't Ever give up on us. I have felt at times in the last few weeks, okay God, Where are you when there is Spiritual pain? But He can't look at sin and we shouldn't look at the problem of our sin, but the problem Solver, and that is Jesus Christ. I have pray so hard that God would replace my heart with His. I still need work, to be reshaped, remolded and rebuilt. There has been anger that I had with God, and yet for what? What did He do to make me angry with Him? Yes I cry and plead with God to make me as He is. Just 3 nights ago, actually 3 IN THE Morning, I am woke up and told to pray. I had begun to forget How to pray.. The Lord's Prayer was what came to mind. I prayed it over and over again. This is the Model Prayer Jesus talk the Disciples. Finally I got out of bed, but complaining cuz it was so early in the morning. The Holy Ghost continued to tell me to pray. i had told Him to teach me again. Lara, I now get up and get ready for the Lord to place in my heart who to pray for. I make myself Ready, Willing and Available to who and Whatever Jesus brings to mind, finding myself on my knees. When I go to knees, no matter where I am, I drop to my knees and the Holy Ghost speaks. There is a song that goes like this, "Lord, Give me words to speak, Don't let my spirit sleep.' i stay on my knees til it has been prayed through. The last several days, I have fasted and prayed, and had my Prayer Journel right in front of me to write down what the Holy Ghost spoke to me about. when I get up from my knees, there is no pain in my knees, my feet aren't asleep, but cuz I give EVERYthing, not part but the whole, I then can rejoice. I Too lost my first love, and no matter how many times I repented and asked the Lord for a real peace in my heart, He reminded me that I needed to let the live coles from the alter touch my lips and be made pure. He also reminded me that I had missed the mark. I had not cuz I asked not, cuz I had asked with wrong motives. That is why my prayers weren't being answered. I wasn't waiting for God's timing but was rushing God. So I buckeled. My sweet friend, In 1 Peter, Jesus showed me, (1 Peter 1:3-9) "blessed be the God and Father of Our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has given us again to a Living Hope through the Resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in Heaven for you, who are kept by the power of God through faith for Salvation ready to be revealed inthe last days. In this you Greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, have been distressed by all kinds of trials, that the genuineness of your faith, being Much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the Revelation of Jesus Christ, whom having not Seen or known, you love. Though now you do not see Him, yetBelieving, you Rejoice with joy inexpressable and full of glory, receiving the end of your faith-------the Salvation of your souls. This what the Lord Jesus has been showing me. That when I ask believing I will receive what I ask for in faith Spilled and running over like a purpetual spring that never shall run dry. FIll my cup Lord, I lift it up Lord, Come and fill this quenching of my soul, Bread of Heaven, feed me til I want no more, Fill my cup, fill it up and make me whole. In Luke 6:38 it says; "Give, and it will be given to you; good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put in your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you." Jesus Words. He reached out to me, and set me FREE! I now will live for Christ Eternally! This is TRUE Victory! No more will I allow sin to rule in my heart, Satan will Stay out of my way, He No longer has the foothold, since I gave my Whole life to Jesus Christ, I want to live for Him each day.
Just take Jesus' hand, He''ll help you stand, and the Joy and Love of Jesus will take ahold and won't Ever let you go. Watch His abundance flow.
God Bless dear one, I love you and always will. :-) |
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Lara,
This kind of discipleship you are asking for is very difficult to do from a distance...you really need someone who can walk alongside you and kick you in the behind when needed...
That said, I will share a few things:
--He makes you lie down in green pastures. Why? To restore your soul. Always remember, He never leaves you...He walks you through times and seasons so you can learn where your weaknesses are and learn to lean on Him. --There is a time in every Christian's life when they need to get up early, read, pray, and have that firm routine. HOWEVER, there comes a time when you need to get off the milk and start eating meat. When that time comes, you will not <repeat> will NOT find nourishment in the milk that so well satisfied when you were a baby. This is where local discipleship is so important. I can't tell you what you should be doing, but there is something God is wanting from you and it IS NOT getting up early and reading and praying. More likely it is visiting people in jails, in the hospital, shut-ins, etc...I always tell people, if you don't know what to do, go visit the widows, fatherless, and sick and God will show you...but, you have to take action. --God will prune us...it is a promise. See John 15. We think we are growing and bearing fruit (and we are), then all of a sudden, it all stops. We have just been pruned. It is a time of preparation where God wants us to change direction and grow some more. --A critical part of walking out our salvation daily is to be thankful. Thankful for the sun that shines. Thankful for the water that even freezes in the pipe. Thankful for the roof over our heads. Thankful for a Bible we can read. Thankful for...well, you get the idea. If your feelings are fooling you, then get your attitude right because chances are, you are not being thankful for what He has given you and we know that when we are not thankful for what we have, what we have will be taken from us.
If any of these things hit hard, it wasn't my intent. I am just sharing with you thoughts of what God does during the times as you describe them. He is still with you for He will never leave you, but you have to take up your cross daily. My guess is you have been drinking the milk too long and He wants you chewing meat, but I don't know because I am a long way away...you need somebody to help you close by...
YBIC. |
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| Hey, sweet sister, good to have you back. :-) |
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| January 16, 2009 |
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I can sooooo relate to what you've said Lara. And like Mike has said, it happens little by little (by degrees) - and believe it or not over a long period of time. First one thing - then another, then suddenly you wake up and its all gone. Suddenly that passion, that zeal - or excitement for a better way of describing it, that wanting to do - just vanishes. And I think these "can of worms" you describe needs to be opened up to find out where we're at.
If I were to say something about myself here, the warning signs were flashing up all over the place in the run-up towards Christmas. In fact, if I were to think about it - it was well before Christmas, but I ignored it. First one thing - then another, and my whole being felt under attack. So when I wrote something here just before Christmas that focused on the effects Christmas has on some people (those that have lost loved-ones, the lonely, those who have no one to share Christmas with) and the list could go on and on into infinity, although people responded - something was missing. I thought to myself, the only time people will understand is when it happens to them, and suddenly they realise they're all by themselves. Without sounding offensive, people care in a religious way, but not in a real way - because we always think it'll never happen to us - and that they'll always be somebody there to pick up the pieces. And as you know Lara, I had a friend who stopped with me over the Christmas period, yet the strange thing about it is, although there was somebody else there in the room, I felt totally isolated and alone - because all my sisters have family - who all celebrated Christmas, but there I was just waking up as if it was just another day.
Like I've said, the warning signs were flashing up well before Christmas (months back in fact), and slowly but slowly everything started to disappear - despite people saying to me "I'm not going to let you do it" or "I'm not going to let you go" or words to that effect. That passion, that zeal, that something that makes me want to get up every morning and do it - just vanished, and it started way back and de-cloaked itself and came out of stealth-mode during Christmas. I just woke up - and it was gone. Its not to say that people don't care, and its not for the want of people not understanding. And believe me, I don't want any sympathy votes, OK? But something has got to crack for me to want to get up every morning and do it, and at this moment in time - I don't. There's got to be something inside me that's REAL - not religious. Anything else is just treading the boards. After all, people can religiously read their bible every day, they can religiously pray everyday - and they can even go to church religiously every Sunday. And without wanting to sound offensive again, they can enter into all sorts of "happy-clappy" stuff that's imaginable, but the question is, is it real? The only time people will find that out - is when they hit that brick wall in life, that although invisible - is about as solid as any visible wall can be. Call me a backslider, call me what you will, but something is missing that I can't get back. I've hit that brick wall that everybody talks about with full force. I could say more, but I'll leave it at that. |
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I think we have all been there, Lara (& Stevie, & Carolyn, & everyone else). We lose the emotion, and fear that the Holy Spirit has left us, or something like that. Well it ain't true, and we simply have to reassure ourselves. (Or hang with other mature Christians who can likewise reassure us.) Rev. 2:1-7 comes in the form of a letter from Jesus to a really good church - except for one thing. He says "Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken your first love." (from which my blog on this exact topic came) We all have to avoid forsaking our first love, that "love we had at first" for our Savior when the realization of his loving sacrifice for us came upon us. I believe this essentially means we remain engaged with him in relationship. Appreciating him, and DOING all that our appreciation compels us to DO. Some very wise counsel has been given here in your comments Lara, and more will likely come. This includes, spending time daily in God's word (his word...to US!), in prayer (one-on-one dialogue with God, wow!!), and serving others (isn't it the LEAST we can do for God, after all he's done for us?). Sharing this life of faith with other believers is critically important too. Stevie said, "they can enter into all sorts of "happy-clappy" stuff that's imaginable, but the question is, is it real?" Stevie's question, if I understand him right is, is our motivation for doing these things right? God is real, the things he's done are real, his promises are real, his love is real, etc. But how real is our appreciation of these? |
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Carolyn, I can attest to the fact that you have grown leaps and bounds in just these past few months, period. So do not forget that, when you get down on yourself. I rarely see believers grow that quick in that short a time. You've been called to intercession, as I've said before, and I guess we all just gotta keep pressing. I know you probably feel like I do when you don't pray. Like I don't have the gift of intercession in quite the same way you do, but I feel like I let a lot of ppl down, by not praying for them anymore, and broke my word. Which is the worst. BUT it's never too late til we've drawn our last to repent. Thanks for sharing. Voice, haha! Our pastor has been preaching the past two Sundays on God disciplining us or pruning us....one comes from being disobedient, and the other because we are producing fruit, and He wants us to produce more fruit.....the thankful thing, yes. Amen. I remember Joyce Meyer teaching on that, how we need to thank Him throughout the day whenever we think of it for anything and everything. Just get into a habit of it....the problem with "getting out" and doing this or that is, as you know, I live 40 minutes outside town, am stuck home all week, and on the one day I typically get into town a week, Sunday for church, we go to church, grab our groceries, then get home, because it's my hubby's only real day of rest, and he wants to get home and "rest." So the Lord knows I want to do those things. Our church is doing a ministry to the prison I've been in twice, and I so want to do that...but can't til we move. And as for discipleship? I do have a mentor, who has always lived elsewhere, that the Lord has put in my life. Anyone living around me is too busy, or, 98% of them are in the same boat, but pretend they are not. They themselves could use some discipling. Soooooooooo yeah. Everything you say is true, but some of those things can not be done at this point in my life. The thankful heart thing can be done any time, of course. :-) Thanks for sharing that. I didn't take it in any way but a good way. I mean, it's what I asked for, right??? lol Jen! Missed you! xoxo Steve, you totally get me here! You totally get it. I know that I started to really really lose the passion after just over a year of being saved, sadly. It was after I got married, because I went from being immersed in a community much like the Book of Acts, with tons of fellowship daily, to nothing. I was home all week except for church, getting no fellowship anymore. It was a shock to my system. I know getting fellowship with other believers who aren't big fat compromisers, is a piece of this puzzle as well, I believe. Mike, I believe that we can lose our salvation, so I can tell myself a lot of things, but I know all the other Scriptures that tell me differently. If He removes our lampstand, to me that's pretty clear. But that's a whole other can of worms. One I've tired long ago about discussing, because no one can sway me, and most ppl won't be swayed in their belief of it, either. So for anyone who wants to open that can of worms, write your own blog. Thanks. :D So yeah, Mike. You summed it up well. I can only serve others from the "comfort" of my home, at this stage in my life. I can't help but get almost anxious to get out of this place!!!!!!! |
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| Hi Lara. I read your memo as well about counselling. Without wanting to sound offensive ONCE AGAIN, |
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| Steve, bro.....huh? lol And like what happened to the other 2 comments that were supposedly awaiting me here? Hmmmmmmmm. lol |
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My sweet Lara,
You are perfectly right! I too have tried to teach this to others. I have been praying for you, but also as we have talking, if I missed anything you were saying to me about this, please forgive me.
The blessing of walking in His fullness and not being 'Lukewarm" is a delight! Being in His word is a treasure!! I am so thankful God always had you in His hand!!
ALL mt love chica!!
Cheryl XOXO {Aka: Smooches} LOL!! |
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Oops! Pressed the wrong button. As I was saying... Without wanting to sound offensive ONCE AGAIN, let's see how many people here are prepared to step into that counselling role (even if its via the Internet) to help somebody out. And I wonder how many there'd be left if the people they were counselling told them a bit of the truth to the reasons why they stopped doing what they were doing. You never know, after hearing the truth from some people - the counsellor may need counselling... So I'll end that with an "oops" as well. |
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| (If I ran around smooching everyone around here like Cheryl does, I'm SURE I would get kicked off MyChurch faster than a drop of water turns to ice in New Brunswick CA in Jan!) |
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| And Mike, you are right in your assumption in your reply to Lara above. Or as I wrote, is it real? |
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| HAHA...Mike, Laura would be mad too!!!!! LOL!!! |
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Cheryl, I missed your smooches! lol Thanks, chicky! Steve, there are a few, but ppl get so busy with their own lives. I totally don't mean that in a rude way. It's just the truth. I see it in my church and in other churches and everywhere else. Mike, your wife might kick your behind if you did that, too. lol With a wife as gorgeous as yours, I'm sure you'd happily save your smooches for her. ;-) |
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| Lara & Cheryl, I agree. Laura would NOT be happy if I sent smooches to Stevie! |
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| ROFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| I don't think Steve would be happy about it, either! HAHAHAHAHA! |
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Lara, I so enjoyed your post, and understand exactly what you are saying. I think all Christians struggle to keep that "first love" feeling, but I've come to understand that as you grow in Christ, that love deepens into something else. Instead of a fire, there's a glowing ember, a warmth that emanates from you and touches the lives of everyone you meet. That's the way it should be. Remember how it felt to be so full of the Holy Spirit that you had to share your experience with everyone you met? Well, as wonderful as that is for us Christians, it can be quite frightening to someone who hasn't experienced Divine love and acceptance. I saw a bumper sticker the other day that might express it better. It said, "Spiritual people inspire me. Religious people scare me."
There's nothing that says you can't be spiritual and religious at the same time, but one should not overwhelm the other. There's a delicate balance, and I always have to remind myself that my purpose is to show others how fulfilling Christian life can be through example. If I approach an uninitiated person and start quoting scripture, I'm sure they would label me a "religious nut" and keep their distance. Instead, I try to show loving kindness to everyone I come in contact with, and when the time comes, I gently "nudge" them into sharing their religious experience with me, and I share mine as well. We may not agree, and I may never change their way of thinking, but I will have planted a seed that may still bear fruit sometime in the future.
Loving Christ and living a Spirit-filled life doesn't mean you have to wake up in the morning to trumpets and cymbals. It means you live in peace, serve the Lord, and trust that He will show you your true path. You pray. You show the world what it means to walk in the Light at every opportunity. You read God's word every day, and sing his praises every single moment of your life. There may be no fireworks. There may be no all-consuming flame of the Holy Spirit, and there most certainly will not be instant gratification. But someday, when you realize that you have inspired someone by word, thought, or deed, the flame will re-ingnite in you. And while it may not burn as brightly as it once did, you'll know that it's not only burning stronger, but spreading like wildfire whipped by a strong wind, and touching everyone who crosses your path.
Being a Christian really isn't about you and how you think you should feel. It's about the lives you touch, those you inspire, and those you bring to Christ through being a shining example of the difference He can make in your life.
So be prayerful, be grateful, but most of all--be inspiring.
God bless you always, BK |
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| Wonderful Blog. Thank you. Wacky bunch of people commenting, huh?..:) It's great. I feel right at home. Love you all. |
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| Put it this way Lara, if Mike smooched me - I'd give him the right knee of fellowship in his maracas! LOL!!! And as for your comment Lara. I totally understand what you mean. But some people use it as a cop-out because they're too busy with their own lives to care about anybody else. They just don't want to get involved. |
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Brenda, much wisdom, there! Regardless of anything else, I just wanna fall inlove with God all over again...and the rest will follow. Preston bro, yep, and I fit right in, cause I'm a wack job too. lol Thanks for reading. Steve, oh my. Well...we won't go there. Mike won't go there....lol. Yeah, sometimes it's a cop out, but sometimes it's just a fact....but sometimes it's a cop out. lol |
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| Stevie, here are some Rolaids for your stomach if you need them...LOL!!! |
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Hey girl,
I'm writing a blog about that...falling in love with God, almost have it written..I'll add a reference to your blog on it and message ya when I'm done. God's timing ya know!!
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| Thanks. :D |
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| I beat ya to it. lol |
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Excellent article sister Lara and real spiritual food for the soul... First, we must realize that we are backsliden and then admit it and then repent of it... Then we ask and depend on the grace of God to restore us and ask the Holy Spirit to quicken our Bible Reading and Prayer life again and to place us in a fellowship of believers who will love us, encourage us, and disciple us again... Many times situations in our lives cause us to backslide as the enemy of our soul magnifys those situations... When we finally zero our eyes back in on Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, we can renew that first love afresh... One of the diffcult things is coming again into a fellowship of believers as we have guilt, doubt, and are concerned what they may think if they find out... But thanks to our God He will restore us and give us fresh joy and peace... Blessings In Him... :o) Herman |
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| I think your observations about what "backsliding" really looks like are right on. It is always the things on the inside that get us farther from God. An ignored prayer life is far worse than slipping with a "bad word" I think I have been guilty over the years of "going through the motions" spiritually on the outside, when there was a diminished affection in my soul for Jesus.
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Herman, bro, Thanks. You are right. This is it for fellowship for me aside from a quicky thing Sunday at church. But really, that ain't fellowship. Like we go, we sing to the Lord, we listen to the sermon, then we all go our separate ways again, except for a select few who hang out. But there's a time and a season, and it's our (mine and hubby's) fault we moved so far away from civilization, and thank God, He doesn't make us suffer the consequense forever! Yeah, I've been praying God would put a desire to even serve Him, in me. Like a real fire desire. I hate my flesh. Scott, I think the majority of us find ourselves in this spot. Just so many are too ashamed to admit it. I know I feel like an idiot, considering I used to be one of the key bloggers on here, with some no compromise blogs. I feel like I've failed so many ppl. But it's done with now. |
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Hummm...something about No Condemnation In Christ....
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| In Christ. For those who walk according to the Spirit and not the flesh... That's why so many of us are feeling condemned. Because we are in our flesh. |
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Yep, but just as instant as the realization was about our sin, comes the same quickness of No Condemnation when we turn toward Christ.....no self-defeating walk even in the turn around, that also is being in flesh..and not in the Spirit.
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| As someone who hit rock bottom with my "backsliding", I understand where you are coming from. For me, it is the realization that I don't want to go back to that place where my whole world blew up in my face. I hate the sin, and I want to please my Father, and so I live for Him, because I don't want to live for me anymore, since I didn't do a very good job of it. I want to do the right thing, and I know that I have to walk closely with God, even when I get discouraged. Instead of turning away from Him, I turn to Him and I let it all out. I let Him have it. lol I fight with God, and I know He listens to me. He wants us to come to Him even with the most trivial things. I lost my beloved cat this past summer, and it nearly killed me, and I was so angry with God for taking him away, but I know He gave me time to accept it too, before he died, and He could have just taken him then. I have worked through it for the most part, but I still miss him and I tell God about it. He hears my voice and sees my tears and He comforts me. Just stay close to God, and choose to not want to go back to being that "backslidden" person again. |
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| January 16, 2009 |
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Cheryl, hehe. Well sometimes we are our worst critic...and enemy! Deb, I remember your precious cat. I know how hard that is! And it's awesome how God cares for everything we go through. thanks so much for sharing your experience. I appreciate it. |
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XOXO
SMOOCHES~ |
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| January 16, 2009 |
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How can we evaluate our walk?
Well, one thing would be by the amount of fruit evident in our lives. If we aren’t producing much, that’s an obvious giveaway ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Walk ...Exactly Like JESUS.....He Commands us to ! He Commands us also to PRODUCE Much. Commands us to be Great ...Allowing Himself to Live In us & Through us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are we growing? Are we producing more fruit than we had before? Are we closer to God now than we were, say, a year ago? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Answer must be...YES... YES... YES.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I know something’s gotta give. I get discouraged when I don’t see results, then I give up.
Then I try again. Then I give up again. The cycle needs to stop. I need to keep pressing on…. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Results !!! Must....Plan....Execute....&....Review The Results .....Over & Over ...until Rreaching God's Desired Results !! GOOD...BETTER...BEST !! -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So I’d like for any of you who’ve been there and are now "fired up" again, to share how you rekindled your First Love. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- " FIRED UP "
This is a ongoing job to ........NEVER .......Let .......The FIRE GO OUT ! I Was Fired Up in 1973...When I had a DEATH Experience...& not a Near Death ! Went to a Real Place... .................................................................HELL !!................................................................... You can NOT Get any more FIRED UP than That.....The Deal Was to Serve Him & Save Me...He Did &.........My Fire is Hotter than Ever !! 35 Years of Him Polishing Me to do something very BIG. & Many will be part of His Grand Revival & His ADVENT. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Bible Teaches.........
The Great Co-Mission....is The Job assigned to The Church....which is.... to........[MAKE MEN DISCIPLES].....not anything Half assembled.
So The one's............. DOING........The Assembling ought to be Fully Equipped themselves First ! Heat Generating Heat....Making Hot...Not Luke Warm !
This is Spiritual Adultery.....This means watered down relationship. The only REAL sin of Adultery committed is a Diluted Relationship with Jesus.
The Counsel of Many has to be really carefully sought ....& then You run into the risk of Bad Advice.........Be-Cause....the very SAD & Awful facts are that 80% of The Guys in all the Pulpits [do not] even Believe in the BIBLE Basics........& This is of All Your Denominations.........So How could One Be-Come Fired Up ?? or...Inspired ??
Selling a Product that is not really a product the salesman believes in & HE himself has not purchased the product.
People sadly find comfort in Be-Ing Luke Warm Be-Cause they FEEL part of The Big Group...Herd Mentality....Sheep Following The Big Herd to Slaughter. Sheep following other lost Sheep rather than following the Shep-Herd.
The Form of Godliness ...Denying the POWER.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ " JESUS SAID " Often ...........HOW LONG MUST I...tell you to have & develope FAITH.
The Kind of Faith GOD Desires US to Have....That has GRAND Results.
His Business ...The Father's Business...That Jesus spoke of I DO what I see My Father Doing.....This is...The Same Business that We are to Know of it's Exact Functions & Purposes.
God so Loved The [WORLD] His Masterpiece...that He desires to Blot out the Curse... The Problem is The Free Will Exercising....It is a Voluntary Program...if Mankind wants to reject or accept the Business ot The Great Co-Mission of Restoration & Restitution... of All Creation...Romans 8:18...& Acts The 3rd Chapter.
I think The Biggest part of Blotting Out The Curse is That The Church MUST BE-COME empowered ...To DO The FIXING & Repairing back to What The Jews are still waiting For a Messiah the Makes Things RIGHT Again like the Paradise Adam Messed Up.
The Responsibility & Accountability Has Been given to the Church...to Do This.. That which is.... Requested of US...From The Lord & Master Jesus. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- YOU ARE ........HIRED !!........YOU GET The JOB Officially assigned to My Business.......
First Task at HAND..........You Are To MAKE....Things Happen !
Not By Chance.......But by MY Plans...You WILL FIND if You ACT ON You Will have The GREAT Results....when You execute & Review the Results...........Jesus.....He REJOICED after He had sent them to Heal the Sick & Cast Out Devils...& They Reported ..."it worked " just as You said it Would....Jesus Then said..."I SEE Satan's Kingdom Falling" READ......First John 3:8
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| I know what you are going through...for I am feeling the same...I feel disconnected...like the fire has simmered...but at my own doing...I am trying to get back into the groove...so for now I am riding this ride with you...together we can pull through...life our eyes to the Lord and know that He is there...waiting for us to stop fighting his arms... : ) |
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| January 16, 2009 |
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Rekindled my First love by basking in His presence...with no one around. Just me and my Jesus and not a sound. My quiet singing floating up in the air, as is swirles around my Saviors ears. Still I lay prostrate on the floor, for my sins are covered by a garment worn by our Lord. How many times I tried to fix things on my own, lovingly Jesus came to adorn His thrown. Settled high in my heart, His seat is always warm, for I know it is my Savior love for me enabling my love to not be torn. This old world will one day be gone and the Saviors' eyes are all I will see, for then I will be in the arms of my God and my King!
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| January 16, 2009 |
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Yes, my sister often times we forget about our first love. This what I was talking about on my blog, let's get back to the word of God, I too have found myself caught up in the conversations of the world, not cursing or nothing, but not focus on God as I should be..this is a great post, and the kind I joined My Church to discuss, I love you and God bless you and your family. |
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| Hey Joe! |
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Cheryl, I love your smooches!!! :D and your poem! Michael, Amen. What more can I say? Everything you say is {harsh} reality. Harsh for me, because it's the truth that can be hard to swallow but like medicine if I take it in. Eliza, I knew you were in the same boat, based upon your last blog. Part of why I thought I should be forthcoming with my situation. I guess the thing would be, that we need to do whatever we gotta do to get out of the place we are in and get back into the groove of things with God...and keep on growing! Love ya, girl. Joe, thanks ,bro, for reading. Please keep me in your prayers, as well as the other awesome peeps on here that are struggling in the same way, and don't want to stay in that place. I don't believe ANY of us that have spoken here, want to be in that place!!! Love ya too, Joe. |
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That's cool. the more the merrier. ;-) |
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| January 17, 2009 |
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Could it be that many are really not born-again? Look at it this way. Would someone who is filled with the Holy Spirit of the living God of this universe backslide over and over? See John 3/3-8 Think of it seriously. This is the same Spirit that Jesus said He will send back to earth. See John chapter 16 and 17 for an explanation of what the Holy Spirit does in a believer's life. Also 1 John chapter 3 also explains who the Holy Spirit is and what occurs when one is born-again. I keep saying over and over, I would rather believe that someone is not born-again, than hear that person was born-again and has turned their back on the prompting of the Holy Spirit (see Hebrews 6 and 10) for what happens to a believer when they wilfully sin. I posted a blog titled (Willful Sin Would It Be Forgiven)? Many seem to believe that every sin would be forgiven and that is totally incorrect, according to Hebrews and other scriptures. The key here is WILLFUL."PRE-MEDITATED SIN". FIRST WE MUST KNOW WHAT IS CONSIDERED SIN. We have two new commandments to uphold. Love God with all of our hearts, mind and soul, and love our neighbor as ourselves. No one could do either commandments with agape' love for God and man unless they are BORN-AGAIN AND FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD. Blasphemy, according to Jesus is done to the Holy Spirit. Which means the Holy Spirit must reside inside of the person, for Him to bring all that Jesus taught to remembrance. When prompted to pray and seek the face of God for whatever, it is the Holy Spirit in the individual who does the works in and through the believer. It is the Holy Spirit that whispers that verse of scripture and urges you to obey. Perhaps the reason many are struggling in their walk and keep sliding back to their old ways is because they are just not born-again and filled with the Holy Spirit.. You do not need to rev-up the Holy Spirit. All things becomes new when you receive the Holy Spirit. Jesus said He will not pour new wine into old vessels, else they will burst. That is why He told his disciples to wait for the infilling of the Holy Spirit. If you are not filled with the Holy Spirit, all you need do is ask and Father will give you the desires of your heart, because your seeking is placed there by Him.
Father, I pray that your Words go forth and not return unto you void. Let those who have eyes and ears, hear what you are saing in this hour, and according to your Word found in John chapter 15, I know it is done, in the name of my precious Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.
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| January 17, 2009 |
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Hey, we need to have a party gain...Holy parties are the BEST!!!!.......I'll get my jet....
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| January 17, 2009 |
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ihsallthetime, almost my entire life, I went around calling myself a Christian. I figured, since I believe the Gospel message was true, and I'd "asked Jesus into my heart", then I was one. I grew up in a church that taught extreme Calvinism, but it never sat well with me. So anyways, here I was living like the devil. And then there were many times I thought I was sincere, asking Jesus to take over. But then nothing happened. The time I finally did get born again, I couldn't believe it actually happened, because from then on, I knew that I had never known Jesus up til that point. I had been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress disorder and a chemical imbalence and had had depression for years, but Jesus delivered me from that when I gave Him ownership of my life. It was like a lightswitch went off. Even my parents saw a huge change. They couldn't stand me before, but then I lived with them for a year after I got born again. This is how I know that I know that I got born again six years ago. If what you say is true, then that means there is no such thing as backslidders. Backslidders are people who got born again, then slack off or just take off. I can't speak for everyone, but only for me. And I've been in some pretty awesome spots with God of "perfect peace". It was amazing, while I was in ministry school and immersed in the Word and ministry, constantly. Am I "filled" to overflowing with the Holy Ghost right now? No. It's like you gotta sow into it. You reap what you sow. Anyways, I know what you are saying, and I know there are many people who think they are saved, and aren't because I used to be one of them, but perhaps if you've never had this happen to you, it's hard for you to see it as possible. Who knows? But anyways, thank you for sharing. Cheryl, you're cute. ;) |
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| January 17, 2009 |
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| Sorry, that's lightswitch went "on". Seeing in color again. Walking in the light. |
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Lara...This so encouraged me! When I started reading this, my heart was enlightened. I have been there...recently...and this has been my prayer for God to rekindle the fire and the compassion and the passion back in my heart. I want that fire and that zeal back in my heart that I had when I first got saved...when He first touched my heart. That desire to do 'Whatever' He wanted me to do. I like what you said right here though: Ask the Lord to put a hunger for Him and His Word in us, then do our part, even if we gotta force feed ourselves for a time. I have had to do just that...force feed myself. It seems that when we get 'comfortable' and let reading the Word regularly or prayer continually...just spending that little extra, quality time with Him, it becomes habit forming and it gets easier to 'not' do it. But, then its even harder getting back into the habit of doing it again, because the enemy has come in and cause a wall to be put up. At least, thats how it feels for me. I remember something that Kenneth Copeland said when he first was born again, he said, "When I first got saved and I wanted to read the Word of God, I would get so sleepy that I could barely hold my head up. So, finally, I determined in my mind, that I was gonna read the Word of God, through whatever lengths it took me. So, I decided one day, I would stand on the edge of the bathtub and read the Word of God, know that if I fell off I would be hurt...and I finally, after falling a few hard times, because I wasn't focusing on the Word, but on the fall itself, I begin to be steady, so it became easier and I was able to stand there and read for hours, standing balanced, because my focus was no longer on 'falling off the tub' but it was on my 'desire to read the Word of God' and be consistent in doing it". I know that sounds a little silly, but once we get our minds off of why we aren't doing it and just focus on 'doing it', it will become easier and that desire to do it will return. Ok, so I just preached that to myself....lol...Thank you for this...it was awesome.... |
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| Tania sister, what you said about the habit forming and then messing up and having it harder to get back into it...bingo! You know where I'm coming from....Ummm...it could prove disastrous if I did what Kenneth did with the bath tub thingy. lol But he made his point. I like what you said because it's exactly what I see as a definate truth. Like dieting; gets easier as you go; habit forming, and especially discipline. Yesterday at church, God really came through for me, and I keep having that old Rez band song go through my head called "Your love was right on time." and so it is! Thanks for sharing that with me. |
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| Yvelisse, thanks for sharing that. There was an phenomenal course I've taken the first part of called "Ancient Paths' that I found dealt with a lot of that past stuff and generational stuff and whatnot, and I am just waiting for them to come back and do the second part. In my next blog, I tell how the Lord came through for me. Since then, I've had a renewed hunger for reading the Word and the things of God. I'm not "on fire" yet...that takes time to stoke, but I am moving ahead once again, praise the Lord! Thanks so much for sharing with me, and I pray it also benefits anyone else reading these comments, in the same state of discontent and stagnant waters. |
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| January 22, 2009 |
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| Marcia, sister, I actually, even when I left Mychurch, kept a link to that in my email!!! Prophet Jay and I are kindreds! Thanks so much! Great for others to read! |
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| January 22, 2009 |
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Wow... This really opened my eyes! I've been trying to figure out why I felt so disconnected from God, and you told me in a few words.. Thanks! God bless you! Jager |
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| January 22, 2009 |
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| Anthony bro, I'd rather be honest to help ppl and risk myself being critisized, then not. Glad that this spoke to you. I encourage you to keep seeking Him, and pray for the zeal to return. |
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| January 24, 2009 |
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As it is with any relationship, when we stop spending time with the one we love, the relationship goes cold and we begin to do and to say things that dishonor that person and that relationship. That's what backsliding is all about. Yet we have One who reaches out to us, who calls us back into that relationship.
It is truly a personal relationship.
How I get fired up again? ...... Just stop. Take the time to look for God in me and around me.
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| January 24, 2009 |
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Look at Gen 3. It's a wonderful account of a couple walking in full relationship with God as it was meant to be. Even in that relationship, we are easily deceived. That's why backsliding is cyclic. - we go back and forth, in and out of a real relationship with Him.
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| January 25, 2009 |
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| Gene, bro, thank you! It just seems that I get in this "rut" even when I get regular devotional time to start my day. I feel like "nothing" is happening, and I still feel "blah." BUT this past week, I've had a renewed hunger for the Word, so that's an awesome start, because the Word is our spiritual food. I want the cycle to end. I need to have more discipline and just be as stubborn at it as I am in other things. lol Thanks for reading, bro. |
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| January 25, 2009 |
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Lara, "I need to have more discipline and just..." I've been down that road a few hundred times..... I am becoming more and more convinced that's all part of the Big Lie, a deception placed there by the one who seeks to seperate us from God. That deception is kind of like a New Year's resolution - we feel discouraged....and shameful....when it eventually doesn't pan out. And out of that guilt we feel like we're not good enough, so we distance ourselves from the very one we need the most. I've learned that those kinds of thoughts place us in control when we need God to be in control. What God wants from us is a humble and contrite heart with a hunger and a thirst for Him and for Him alone. All these other things: discipline,dedication,avoidance of sin, right priorities, quality relationships, and the joy of life all come from God as a consequence of a good relationship with Him. I'm glad to hear that your hunger has been renewed. Takiing time to look for God in me and around me includes a lot of things. A desire to read the Bible is a part of that. Good to talk with you. Gene |
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| January 25, 2009 |
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| Hey Gene, have you heard of Dutch Sheet's book "Roll away your stone?" I just started reading that tonight! like, I'm reading it laughing and shaking my head, totally relating and also totally seeing my insensitivity to ppl in my ignorance. Thanks for checking back! :) |
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| No. Looks like a great book. |
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| January 27, 2009 |
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Some people need help from backsliding. Then isn't ther some people who actually want to backslide? And change their lives even if it's not what others think is best. |
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| January 27, 2009 |
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| There definately are those who deliberately say, "I don't care! To heck with You, God!" and do whatever they want, yes. I wasn't in this category. When I "daydream" I daydream of doing these awesome things for God. However, backslidding is backslidding. I can't say I'm any "better" than the one who deliberately walks away. Thank you for reading, Kelsi. |
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| January 27, 2009 |
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I'm thinking that we all need help from backsliding, and that we all intentionally and knowingly do it. We seek to feed our sense of control, we take our relationship with God for granted, we want to get even with someone...or at least relish in the desire to do so. It is in our very nature to backslide. The great apple incident in the Garden of Eden and the rest of the Old Testament describes for us...testafies...that over and over again God's people willfully fall away. I took a walk this morning and asked God why I keep falling away. The immediate answer that came to me before I even finished asking the question.. ..."Because you're human." Gene |
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| January 27, 2009 |
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| Gene, when you put it in such a way, yep; that's me! |
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| January 28, 2009 |
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Lara.... I need to get closer in my walk with Jesus. It's not that I've fallen away... it's that I need to get rekindled.
I'm going to find a Women's Retreat. I haven't been out of this house for about four years. I need to focus on Jesus, not anything else. |
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| January 28, 2009 |
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| Joey, you could probably use a 'refreshing.' the Lord literally knows that I could. I pray that He stokes your fire. As you hunger for that, He will def fill you! Love you. |
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| January 28, 2009 |
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Many moons ago my wife gave me a weekend at a monastery. It was wonderful! It was, in essence, a fast from the clutter of life. I ate with the nuns and they invited me to the worship services (several per day). Each had its own style. But by far most of the time was just me walking the grounds, contemplating the dedication and purpose with which they conducted their lives to and for God....and reflecting on the extent to which I allowed God to work in my life.....or not. While I recognize that a monastery is not what most people think of, "getting away from it all" is exactly what most of us need to really allow the hunger for God to take hold. ....which is, after all, the point of any kind of fast. Gene |
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| January 28, 2009 |
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| Gene, I ain't Catholic, but I bet I'd love that, myself. Especially if those nuns sing like they do on the "sound of music". hehe OK, now ppl can make fun of me, but I'm kinda serious. I find some of that music is so beautiful and worshipful. |
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| January 29, 2009 |
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| Wow Lara what a great response! The good thing is that we can't back slide too far with out the loving intervention of God. (that is my theology). You are so right though that we are luke warm and luke warmness makes Jesus sick to His stomach. God wants us to love Him with all of our heart soul mind and strenght that has never changed and it never will. His eyes go to and fro throughout the whole world looking for one who's heart is turned towards Him. As Romans 12 commands us: It is high time that we wake up out of slumber not slothful but fervent in spirit serving the Lord. |
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| January 29, 2009 |
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| Bro Todd, and I wanna love Him the way He deserves! I remember when I first came to Him...oh man! I want that love back! |
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