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Should I compare myself to others in order to determine whether or not I’m living right, or do I use the Bible as my measuring stick? I know the answer, and I’ll bet it’s pretty obvious to anyone reading this. But in life it isn’t always so clear. Of course a problem with focusing on other people is it can either result in greater discouragement (I could never be as spiritual as that guy) or arrogance (glad I’m not like that guy), and thus have the opposite effect than we intended, hindering our walk with Jesus.
In a way, looking at other people to determine how I’m doing at Christlikeness is like trying to row a boat toward someplace over the horizon and using objects floating in the water to gauge my progress. They tell me very little about how close I am to the actual goal in the absolute sense. Fact is, we could easily think we’re much farther along in our personal sanctification than we really are, and start feeling very smug and self content. But God might have a completely different idea.
I'm considering what Paul wrote about this...
6:3 If anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 6:4 Each one should test his own actions. Then he can take pride in himself, without comparing himself to somebody else, 6:5 for each one should carry his own load. The most useful reference point is a fixed (unchanging) reference point. Only God’s Word and the Word made flesh Jesus Christ pass the test as being truly fixed and unchanging (Malachi 3:6, James 1:17).
Even knowing this though, it is still tempting to look at others to gauge my progress and feel good about my level of spiritual maturity. Why is that? Well, one reason might be because we’re so easily tempted to place our focus on that which we experience sensually (Eph 4:18-19), meaning living to please the five senses of sight, hearing, smell, touch, and taste. Another is that I suppose we all want to feel good about ourselves, and one easy way is to look down on others.
But we are called to go beyond the senses in order to live spiritually. True, degrees of spiritual maturity can be evidenced by what one sees on the exterior, but the exterior can also fool us (note the Pharisees). Mentors are great too, but even they are fallible and have limits. So I will determine to take my eyes off of others as I walk along the road with Christ, and keep them on Him through the Word and the Spirit. Isn’t this the only way to guarantee that I am always making progress toward the goal of Christlikeness in this lifetime? |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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I had to go back and reread paragraph two 4 or 5 times. For some reason my brain kept putting a waterfall in there, yet somehow my eyes knew it wasn't there. (Most people will think I'm joking here. I'm not.) I'll probably have more to comment on later. |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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Hi Norm, It's not a perfect analogy (so don't over-analyze it), but the idea is perfect Christlikeness is the absolute goal we're striving for, whereas the degree to which others may or may not achieve this goal will only give us an idea of where we're at in a relative sense. And if we focus completely on them instead of the absolute goal, we may even lost lose sight of the absolute if, say, they get caught in a current and pulled in a direction other than Christ. Ok, maybe it's a better analogy than originally thought... |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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| I love this blog, Mike! Comparing ourselves to others breeds pride, jealousy, envy, malice, and a false sense of spiritual reality! (whether it's behavior, what we wear, physical beauty, job performance, job position, what we drive, or even getting blog stars!) Comparing ourselves to Christ fosters humility and desire to grow nearer to Him! Completely turns around the way we look at everything! |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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Let’s just go ahead and be what we were made to be, without enviously or pridefully comparing ourselves with each other, or trying to be something we aren’t. Romans 12:6 (The Message) I love the way this puts it... It makes you realize that we were made us for a certain purpose. When we begin to compare ourselves to others it is almost as if we aren't sure if God knew what He was doing. (In a sense...) But by trying to be like someone else or be something that we are not...It is exactly that:trying! We can only be ourselves no matter how hard we try to be someone else...But like you said, Mike, why is it that we still try sometimes...Or not even always try, but think about it even?... Well, I can't answer that but I can say that the sooner we realize who we were meant to be, and accept that-the better... Not only physically, but emotionally, and most importantly-spiritually. God blessed us with our own individual gifts, talents, and abilities. Just like a father, no matter how different each of his kids are, or how much more or less talented one is that the other. No matter how different His relationship is with each of them... He loves them just the same... (kinda went off on my own little spill, sorry about that.) But, Thanks Mike... I really needed this. :-) |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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This is one of the primary reasons people don't get involved in ministry, in my opinion. "I could never talk in front of a group of people like so-and-so" or "I don't have as much time to volunteer as so-and-so" etc, etc. We're not supposed to minister like so-and-so. God already made a so-and-so to do that job! If we'd simply have willing hearts and wait for God's leadership on the balls of our feet, ready to move, He'll point us in the right direction. If we all looked to the Word and just did what it said instead of comparing our potential to the actions of others (yes, I'm guilty of the same thing), Jesus would be dripping all over everything! Thanks for the reminder, Mike! |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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Mike, this is so true. We really do a disservice to God when we try to compare ourselves to others.
"I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made..." (Psalms 139:14)
I know your message really pertains to comparing our walk with someone else's walk, but I often find myself saying "Oh, I wish I could sing like ..." or "I wish I could write a blog like ...(!)" hehe. But, I have exactly the talents that God wants me to have, now I just need to use them for His glory! |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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This is a great blog, Mike. Very thought provoking.
Heb. 10:24 - And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Instead of comparing, if we do what it says in the above scripture verse, we not only exercise our "fruit", but we help others to exercise their fruit and talents as well. We are supposed to be a 'body' and I really like the idea of being a helping 'hand'. <><
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| July 12, 2007 |
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| Great blog Mike, my favorite is when people try to "one-up" each other. I see a lot of that !!! |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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I've always thought comparing myself to others is like comparing apples and oranges. Of course, I seem to find myself comparing to others in attitude a lot. I'm glad Jesus is there to guide and help me overcome. |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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Soozanne, I'll bet your right that a lot of folks stay away from ministry b/c they feel inadequate. Why? Because they allow themselves to be compared to others who are very adequate. I still struggle, even as I facilitate small group or teach youth group etc. Self-consciousness is very distracting!
Kristie, that's a great insight, not quite where my mind was going with this but very relevant, I'm glad you added it!
Linda, excellent scripture! I like the NIV too -- "And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds."
Thanks Cathy. Take all the competition out of the Body and the result is....greater cooperation and trust!
I like your observation, Jess. Goes hand in hand with what Kristie said too. And I too am very glad for Jesus' guidance (through the Spirit). I don't always feel it though, and so having familiarity with the words of scripture gives me something to fall back on. Loving God with my mind, I guess you could say? |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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Mike n Laura,
We should never compare ourselves to others in order to determine how much better or spiritual (than they) we are, or we are becoming. We should not develop a competitive spirit with our brothers and sisters, because we all grow at a different pace, and anyway, “comparing” us to another Christian could be misleading, frustrating, and some times condescending.
Now…I strongly believe we can “imitate” those who are fruitful and crucify themselves with Christ daily. Like Paul says in 1 Corinthians 11:1 And you should imitate me, just as I imitate Christ.
You see, I am a strong believer in the power of fellowship, mentorship, and learning by example. Who’s example? The example of Christ I see in the life of a believer. I learn to walk along this road with the help of God through His Spirit, His Word, and His children. So… I think we should look at those who follow Christ and learn from them and imitate the goodness in them. This is my humble opinion ;-) |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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Lourdes, very good point about imitation! I appreciate (and agree with) your humble opinion. :-)
(of course, even in imitation one must be very careful to maintain the proper reference, which is Christ in the person... this takes a great deal of discernment, which comes largely from reading and knowing the Word...) |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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| This is so true, Mike. I think it is human tendency to compare ourselves to others, but we have to be conscious of that and avoid it. And like Soozanne said, we need to have willing hearts be ready for God's leadership, and not worry about "someone else' doing a different or better job. We are all different and each of us has our own gifts and special talents. |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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I think I've been lucky. (And by that, I think I've been blessed with strong guidance by the Holy Spirit.) When I see a Christian who is, for example, having amazing experiences talking to people he passes in the street about God, and I look at myself who does not do this, rather than be discouraged, I am encouraged! I'm not exactly sure why (except that it's gotta be the Holy Spirit). Again: I tend to focus on the positive things people do "better" than me (a value judgement based on the absolute standard Word of God) and draw encouragement from that. Drawing from Matt 7 (which does outline a good kind of judgement/comparison), I tend to ignore the negatives if I share them too (comparison). If I don't (comparison), I may privately encourage them in their sin. I can't say I've ever been discouraged by another's righteous acts. To those that are, I can only thank the Holy Spirit; you might want to ask Him for assistance in this area. |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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I want to be just like Mike !!!!!
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| Lol! |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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| I think we can all agree on that |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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Great Reminder to keep Our Eyes on Jesus Christ the Lord. Excellent post Mike. Thanks.
Walk in the Light as He (Jesus) is in the Light.... |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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Suddenly Zach is agreeable!! :-) Thanks Deb, and amen to that! Cathy, you are a shoe in for a dinner invitation! (Although that comment of yours defeats the purpose of this blog. But you knew that.) ........wait a minute, we already invited you, and you chose pouring wine in Columbia over dinner with friends. :-( Thank you Eric, very heady comment, as usual! And thank you JR!! (I guess you could say I heard God's voice in this area?) |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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| I'm always agreeable :) |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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| Mike, now you know better than that. We just happened to have had a full dance card that weekend dude !!!! |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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| Just given you a hard time sis. :-) (and may continue to do so...) |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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| Bring it on ! I am ready willing and able !! |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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| If anyone is, I know you are! :0 |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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| The loving banter here makes me smile :) |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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| Excellent blog :) |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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Mentors are great too, but even they are fallible and have limits This was the other line that had struck me when I read this earlier but didn't have time to follow up on. Mentors definitely are not perfect (nor is anyone). But true mentors aren't there to say "how refined they are", but "how can I help you refine yourself"? |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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Hey Norm, Wouldn't disagree one bit. The line you quoted was directed at the mentee (is that a word?), not the mentor's approach. Isn't it possible to get wrapped up in comparing yourself with someone who is mentoring you, wondering how you measure up to them rather than Christ? |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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Manatee..... They are cute creatures !!!!!
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| July 12, 2007 |
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Isn't it possible to get wrapped up in comparing yourself with someone who is mentoring you, wondering how you measure up to them rather than Christ? It's possible to do that with anyone, including Christ. I'm almost as perfect as Him you know. ;) Two things along these lines. 1) I've said this before, but I always think "doubting" Thomas got shafted. Most people you talk to are not interested in being like him because he "screwed" up. Yet if you look at how his life ended up, he died for his Lord just as the others did. And on the flip side you have Peter & John who are spending all this time with the Lord, because they obviously had all their stuff together. (If that's what you think you better reread the Gospel accounts). I've heard a sermon that said the reason they spent all that time with Jesus is because they were the ones that needed the guiding the most. The point is we can learn from anyone. 2) *deleted*. I'm not feeling like going down the path #2 would have taken me at the moment. |
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| July 12, 2007 |
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| You get another star Mike... |
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| July 18, 2007 |
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Thanks JJ!
Cathy, ...a manatee? What's the connection? |
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| July 18, 2007 |
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Mike. Look right above the picture at your comment. You went with "mentee" Cathy went with manantee. None of which should be confused with
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| July 18, 2007 |
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lol... Norm, you're killing me! I had no idea someone would read "mentee" (one who is mentored) and think "manatee". Cathy, you are crazy, you know that?
Jan, thanks for that comment. A great point, and perhaps even a blog unto itself, something like "How I discovered that what I do for God does matter, no matter how seemingly insignificant!" I'll bet many people would appreciate hearing how you learned that!
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| July 18, 2007 |
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All this talk about Stress, Arguing and Lions (oh my!) probably isn't helping (with the killing thing). Wait the lions should be first. You aren't feeling motivated to do a blog on burdens one bears, are you? Although this might be close enough just so you don't have to push yourself any further. Can someone help me extract my tongue from my cheek now? |
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| July 18, 2007 |
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hehe, that was the mother of all blog plug comments now, wasn't it? :-)
speaking of lions, did you notice how many blogs were posted yesterday with lions as at least part of the theme? I counted at least 4! |
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| July 18, 2007 |
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Unfortunately I've been swamped (ok going for the alligator was a bit of a stretch) lately and everything has been spinning by out of control and I haven't really had much of a chance to read, so no I didn't notice lots of lions (well OK, maybe I noticed this one too). (Linking to a blog twice is as close as I can come to the two star thing). As soon as I get things put back together with ye olde fastener of choice, which will probably be after the next wedding I have to go, or after my sister-in-law has her baby (Yes my wife really did have a conversation with her today that contained the phrase, 'I hope my child is as good as yours as long as it doesn't drool as much as yours') or after the kids come home from camp and Grandma's maybe I'll have time to sit back, drink some java, and read and write again. Or maybe it will be time to come over for dinner. Then again... maybe not. At this moment I'm really longing for boring moments when there are moments of sheer boredom. It's day like this when I reminisce back to the old days when I was just thirteen. So if you don't see me around as much, don't think I've taken my ball and gone home. Because that's simply not the case. Just be happy! (Don't Worry, Be Happy) I find enough time to go to church, and am usually on time! And to boot I sit in my assigned seat, with the rest of the clique. Good thing, I can't sleep or I'd never find all that time to get things done. And look at that. I've made it all the way through this comment without plugging any of my stuff. Makes me feel good (and like this wasn't a walk in the park) and maybe just maybe I should go and spend some time with my Lord and be still (oops). P.S. While hopefully this was a joy for all and has to be close to a new record, and take generations for some to read, at some point this probably should go into the blog guidelines as something not to do. Assuming you believe in rules (oops squared) around here. And yeah I mean either here or here. P.S.2. Yes this type of thing drives my perfect wife insane, but we're still married (although we're at 13 years) even with our differences! P.S.3. Sorry don't own one. But I like the Wii!!! (oops to the third?) |
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| July 18, 2007 |
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Some people have much too much time on their hands.... No names, of course! :D |
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| July 18, 2007 |
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hahaha.... that has to go down as the greatest (and most time consuming) comment I've ever read anywhere! gotta give it to ya Norm, you are a one of a kind! :-) that Samityna ain't bad either... ;-)
ps... definitely a world record, no doubt about it |
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| July 19, 2007 |
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| Yup... Look what I have to live with, Mike. He sat and there and giggled maniacly every once in a while. I know when he's doing that, he's up to no good! |
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| July 19, 2007 |
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Maniacly? And really this wasn't as bad as it seemed. My brain naturally does links. So I wrote the paragraphs and went back and tracked down the links. Occasionally I saw a link while doing so that I figured needed to be in here and so I added a line or two. I probably did spend an hour on it and it was probably an hour I didn't have. Voice's links were probably the hardest to track down because the two olders ones that I wanted I didn't star the first time through and he puts out a lot of content. Especially the thirteen one as when I did a search here on "thirteen" it didn't find them because apparently Search ignores titles. I think I should have done a couple more outside plugs though (I have the two). And I really think I'm spending more time on this followup comment than I want as well. |
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| July 19, 2007 |
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| hehe, I always end up smiling after reading your comments Norm. Well, most of them anyway. It took a while to read the "plugfest" comment but it was worth it. Heck if it had been a blog by itself you would have seen the stars come pouring in! (I'd star the comment if I could.) ~mike |
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| July 20, 2007 |
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So true Mike
- Aaron |
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| July 20, 2007 |
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| Thanks Aaron! Hey, where you been brother? |
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