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The great question- Who's your covering?
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Prophet Jay
March 26, 2009
I like to get under the comforter! You know what I mean Evangelist! On a cold night you can wrap yourself in a comforter and feel warm and secure. I like being wrapped in the Holy Ghost anytime and all the time. I hear people ask me who my covering is and I say he's the Holy Ghost and if they know anyone better than the Holy Ghost they can introduce him but I'm not going to bow down to any man. Lord rebuke the devil. People keep thinking they have to do the Holy Ghost's job.
REMARKABLE TERRY
March 26, 2009
     I'm crawling under the covering of the Holy Ghost right now.
Timothy McCain
March 26, 2009

Do you beleive that you dont need accountabilty? Your covering is Jesus first and foremost as it should be! However accountablity and submission is all through the bible! Moses and Joshua, Joshua and Caleb, Samuel and David, Eligh and Elisha, Jesus and the Disciple (US)! the had a mentor and an accountbilty. and when it came time the mantle was passed! Brother my concern for you and I will be praying and I hope you dont feel this way! but I pray that you dont think you can do the work of the ministry on your own! maybe you can tie your own shoe but even our parents taught us that the lessons kepts coming! having a coverning is haveing a mentor or teacher to help to continue to teach you along the way! I am also an evanglist and has been asked that parent alot!  to me a covering is the Holy Spirit of course! However there are also the people that GOd has placed in our lifes to help us in Godly wisdom! We all need direction no matter how big we get! and if we dont think so we are in pride! Galations states that if anyman thinks he is something when he is nothing than he descieves himself! so I really dont think having a covering isnt a bad or wrong thing at all but is really helpful! However what if you have a call or a mandate from the lord and you have yet to find someone that can help as Paul to Timothy!!! YOU PREACH THE GOSPEL ANYWAY! the commission was already given and the permission was given by God and not man. so that is how I feel about the whole thing! seek the lord brother and ask him to search your heart as we all should do and ask him to find if there is any pride before we become a king uizzah and think we know it all! God Bless You and win souls!!

Timothy

Evangelist Keith  Wilson
March 27, 2009

Prophet Jay- Thank you for grasping the whole point of this blog, I knew that some people would immediately think I was prideful or think that I don't need a mentor " But the harsh reality is ( That Man) has tried to use this issue to do the Holy Ghost Job, and or to build their reputation which i believe stifles many believers into thinking if they don't have somebody they can say (THATS MY COVERING) than nothing can be done.
I have a Pastor, and many mentors who have been in ministry for years who still gives me intructions and teach me things I didn't know " but none of them can ever take the place of the one (JESUS) who called me or do for me what the (Holy Ghost) has done" I am happy to be Covered and commissioned by Jesus!

Terry- Stay wrapped in his arms.

Pastor Tim- Thanks for your prayers, and please if you get a chance read this blog again.

Prophet Jay
March 27, 2009
Yes Pastor Tim you are way off base here. I am under a pastor/evangelist and I have always been under a leader and I have several mentors that I connect with regularly. Anyone that claims to be independant could possibly have separated themselves from a congregation and may be in direct disobedience to God. My point was that there are people that give themselves titles and say that other people need to be under their covering. I've had many people approach me this way but they were obviously not concerned with my spirituality but were just trying to pump themselves up.
Cheryl
March 27, 2009
Amen!!!!
Pastor_Ken_and_Aminata
March 27, 2009

Pastor Keith,

You have no idea what that terms means to me.  I've been asked, more than I care to mention.  Funny how these issues never arose in my mother's or grandmother's generation.    Don't get me wrong, I have a Pastor who raised me up in the  Lord, and she is still my teacher, confidante  and leader... but that's not what I think most people mean.   

Who is your covering?   I am covered by the Blood Of Jesus Christ.   No where in the bible does it say nor teach that I need any other.     I am covered by the Blood of Jesus Christ, the one who has the heaven or the hell to put me into, the one who tell me to stop or go, the one who says when to speak and when to shut up, the one who opens doors for me to walk through, the one who died for me on the cross.

Who is your covering...?   Say what?

Now there are some, men and women in the church who wanted me to get under the covers with them, literally, "the devil is a lie."   The real question is who are you accountable to?

My answer is, I am accountable to the one who gifted me, who called me, who saved me, who filled me with the precious Holy Ghost, who sent me forth in His name....   Who is your covering... Say what?

 Pastor Aminata 

Evangelist Keith  Wilson
March 27, 2009
Amen Pastor A-  "Under the covers?" Wow " I guess it goes further than what I thought, sort of like pulling the wool over on the sheep, trying to lead them without teaching but controlling! Wow!!!!!!!! It is a shame that so many people fall for the " Who is your covering question" without realizing that in some cases it means " Allow me to control your movement!"
Forgiven
March 27, 2009
My covering is The Lord. He is The One who has brought me out of my old ways and through His Spirit, He teaches me. He really does write His law and ways in our hearts. He changes us from the inside out. Sometimes, It's hard for me to see this and then I only have to look back at what used to be and I KNOW!!

This blog ministered to me today. Thank you.
Lara Leger
March 27, 2009
The Bible says we are to submit to each other. As for covering, the Bible says my spiritual covering is my husband and Christ is his and mine.  So that means Christ is yours.  It's funny: I have only ever heard ppl pose that question to women in ministry, so I never really thought about it for men.  I had a dream back some time ago about the pastor at the church I was at for 5 years.  I was lying prone, yes, naked on this bed in this room filled with thick perversion and evil, and my pastor sat at the edge of the bed and he covered me.  The Lord told me in that dream, that my pastor is also my covering.  My husband, my pastor and my Lord. wow, sounds like I"m well covered! lol  As for accountability, we are to be accountable to each other.  You as a pastor are accountable to your leaders and really your whole congregation, and I know you know this.
Lara Leger
March 27, 2009
P.S. Technically speaking my hair is my covering too. lol 
March 27, 2009
Preach on brother Keith.

I am reminded by your post of the centurion who came to Jesus because one of his servants was ill. This centurion, meaning he was over a hundred men, had this whole chain-of-command thing down pat. Notice he says first, I myself am a man under authority. Only after he established that fact did he even mention that he also had authority over those assigned to him. In other words, he would have no authority over them at all, or his attempts to act authoritatively would have no effect, if he himself was not also subject to authority. Jesus marveled at his level of faith and I also believe was shocked at this level of understanding, especially from a Roman solider.

We have authority over this earthly realm only because we are first and foremost submitted to God. We could have no authority at all unless that authority be given to us from the Father.

Sorry if my response ventured slightly off topic. But I could not help but to be reminded of this biblical chain of command.

I personally no longer subject myself to being accountable to man. It's certainly not because I have anything to hide. My life after all, is an open book. True accountability in my eyes is being 100% transparent before the Lord. He knows us better than we know ourselves anyway. He's my shepherd. I hear His voice, and the voice of a stranger I will not follow.

Transparency is so completely liberating. The devil cannot hold us in bondage to that which we openly admit. So therefore, like yourself, I too hold myself entirely accountable to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. He is lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path!

Thanks Keith. Great blog!

Michael
Evangelist Keith  Wilson
March 27, 2009
Michael- I love your answer! it also shows how some people are unaware of who's giving the Power "Our should I say who's Authority?" Thanks!

Laura- I am just going to smile! " The way you put it"
Lara Leger
March 27, 2009
lol  I don't know if that's good for bad, but that's Ok. lol
Evangelist Keith  Wilson
March 27, 2009
Laura- " IT"S ALL GOOD" Smile
Lara Leger
March 27, 2009
I wasn't arguing with you.... I just re-read some of this.  You're right though: God is your covering, and there is great reward in us submitting under our spiritual authorities be it pastors, bishops/leaders/deacons, etc.  Amen ! lol
Joey     R
March 30, 2009
I lost it when I got to Pastor Aminata's comment...  then Lara's hair.   Oh my Keith...  you got in deep.
  
It's God, all God!!!    Amen!
 
Timothy McCain
April 06, 2009
GOd Bless You! ok I read it again but where do you imply that that are approaching you in pride or puffed up! I didnt read that in there. If that is where you are coming from then I can understand your blog! sometimes there are David and Saul expereinces! God Bless You
Pastor Elam
April 09, 2009

The foundation laid by Jesus and the things we see today are Mega Miles apart. for instance
in Ephesians 4: 11 I see (non capitalized) apostles, prophets, evangelist, pastors, teachers.

What I don't see is Archbishop, Cardinals, Chief Apostles, Suffragan Bishops, and all of the rest of these man made titles that men give themselves as they struggle with the question.
"Who will be the greatest among us?"



24 Then they began to argue among themselves about who would be the greatest among them.25 Jesus told them, “In this world the kings and great men lord it over their people, yet they are called ‘friends of the people.’26 But among you it will be different. Those who are the greatest among you should take the lowest rank, and the leader should be like a servant.27 Who is more important, the one who sits at the table or the one who serves? The one who sits at the table, of course. But not here! For I am among you as one who serves.
Luke 22:24-27 (NLT)



What do people really mean when they push the "covering" question? I submit that what they are really asking is: "Who controls you?"

Common (mis)teaching about "covering" really boils down to questions about who controls whom. And the modern institutional church is built upon such control.

Of course, people rarely recognize that this is what is at the bottom of the issue. For it is typically well clothed with Biblical garments. In the minds of many Christians, "covering" is merely a protective mechanism.

But if we dissect the "covering" teaching, we will discover that it is rooted in a one-up/one-down, chain-of-command style of leadership. Within this leadership style, those in higher ecclesiastical positions have a tenacious hold on those under them. Oddly, it is through such top-down control that believers are said to be "protected" from error.

The concept goes something like this. Everyone must answer to someone else who is in a higher ecclesiastical position. In the garden-variety, post-war evangelical church, this translates into the "laymen" answering to the pastor. In turn, the pastor must answer to someone with more authority.

The pastor typically traces his accountability to a denominational headquarters, to another church (often called the "mother church"), or to an influential Christian worker. (The worker is perceived to have a higher rank in the ecclesiastical pyramid.)

So the "layman" is "covered" by the pastor. The pastor is "covered" by the denomination, the mother church, or the Christian worker. Because each is accountable to a higher ecclesiastical authority, each is protected ("covered") by that authority. So the thinking goes.

This "covering-accountability" template is applied to all spiritual relationships in the church. And each relationship is artificially cut to fit the template. No relationship can be had outside of it-especially that of "laymen" to "leaders."

But this line of reasoning generates the following questions: Who covers the mother church? Who covers the denominational headquarters? Who covers the Christian worker?

Some have offered the pat answer that God covers these "higher" authorities. But such a canned answer begs the question. For why is it that God cannot be the covering for the "laymen"-or even the pastor?

Hmmm . . .Selah

Of course, the real problem with the "God-denomination-clergy-laity" model goes far beyond the incoherent, pretzel logic to which it leads. The chief problem is that it violates the spirit of the NT! For behind the pious rhetoric of "providing accountability" and "having a covering," there looms a system that is bereft of Biblical support and driven by a spirit of control.    SO WHO IS YOUR COVERING ?                               

Evangelist Keith  Wilson
April 10, 2009
Pastor Elam- Thank you for this well versed answer, " You and I have had the conversation on many occasions" I just wanted others to understand the truth behind " The great question" LOL
Apostle Sam Martin
June 12, 2009
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 No I know that I write this months after it has been posted but I don't thing that there ever comes a time where the word is of no effect... and I pray that it helps clear up and adds to some very wonderful insghts of truth... I as a man with the gifts, in the office of an Apostle, I have been placed here by God and no man can counsel God on the direction of which I shall go; but all can give counsel to remain on course.

2:22 Who is false but he who says that Jesus is not the Christ? He is the Antichrist who has no belief in the Father or the Son. 2:23 He who has no belief in the Son has not the Father: he who makes clear his belief in the Son has the Father. 2:24 But as for you, keep in your hearts the things which were made clear to you from the first. If you keep these things in your hearts you will be kept in the Father and the Son. 2:25 And this is the hope which he gave you, even eternal life. 2:26 I am writing these things to you about those whose purpose is that you may be turned out of the true way. 2:27 As for you, the Spirit which he gave you is still in you, and you have no need of any teacher; but as his Spirit gives you teaching about all things, and is true and not false, so keep your hearts in him, through the teaching which he has given you. 2:28 And now, my children, keep your hearts in him; so that at his revelation, we may have no fear or shame before him at his coming.

 

 I just want to pose another question... Who becomes the overseer/covering for those that lose their covering when the Coverer dies, if Jesus is not the Coverer, Huumm? I also wouldlike to admonish my Brother Elam for that very true yet descriptive word and and insite.