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Are Christians losing the ability to truly listen? We hear, and we react. We rehearse our speeches, relish the opportunities to present them, and call it dialogue.
There are certain words that are sure to set Christians off. Words like abortion, women in ministry, evolution, homosexuality, Harry Potter, or President Bush. We hear these words, and our brains and tongues go into automatic pilot. We don’t even hear the questions or the issues, just the word. We have rehearsed our responses and are proud to hone our speaking skills every chance we get. Some of you are already formulating a brilliant response to this blog and may or may not even finish reading before you post.
This is our new Christian culture. Why? Because we truly believe we already know all the answers and God has called us to straighten out everyone else, even each other. We even divide ourselves into "camps" and have labels we pin onto those Christians who do not agree with us on every point. We are foolish, not because we are ignorant, but because we can't see that we are. Is God pleased with our haughtiness and arrogance?
I shared a story in my Where Is God When I'm Hurting? blog to illustrate the point of our ignorance. Allow me to share that story again here:
When my nephew Charlie finished kindergarten, he announced to the family in total seriousness that he would not be going to first grade, because he had learned everything he needed to know. We laughed at that, because it was cute and innocent, but are we not all exactly like Charlie? After having learned the alphabet and some basic phonetics and arithmetic, Charlie felt he had a good enough grasp on everything that he knew school to be. He had no concept of the history, literature, cultures, or geometry he was lacking, because his level of knowledge was not ready for them. Should he be reminded in a few years of his family announcement, he too will laugh at it. However, I suspect that every step of the way, although he can look back and see where he has come, he will still be unable to see the knowledge he lacks. He will probably think he knows all he needs to know after 7th grade and after high school and after college, and maybe even after a PhD . . . Why? Because until we have already learned something we are unable to grasp its depth. I surmise that, just like Charlie after kindergarten, we have not even begun to grasp the vastness of God or what He desires of us in this life. We can only see through the number of years we have walked on this earth, maybe 5, maybe 20, maybe 60 - all equally minuscule when compared to the eternity and infinity of God, who is constrained by no time barriers. We can only understand through these finite and very limited human brains of ours, and through our five human senses, none of which takes us into the spiritual realm that surrounds us. Of the greatest realities of the universe, we can only catch occasional glimpses, through a glass dimly, never perceiving with perfect clarity, thus never really having all the answers.
My nephew will begin 7th grade soon, and he has grown in knowledge since his pronouncement. He can now talk about ideas and concepts he never even knew existed when he knew "everything." As Christians we should never stop growing in knowledge and understanding. On this I suspect we all agree. However, on exactly how we should encourage our own growth, we tend to separate. There are many ways we can grow, three of which I want to advocate here:
1) Meet together regularly with other believers (in church, in Christian organizations, in MyChurch blogs . . .), sharing thoughts and questions.
2) Read and study entire books of the Bible at a time, on your own, with no time line, but systematicallly covering all of the Bible, every word of every book.
3) Listen to others with whom you do not agree. Not just hear, but really listen. Without talking.
Why should we listen intently to people who do not agree with us? Because we will grow more that way than we will by listening only to those who do.
Many of us as Christians have stopped thinking. We have adopted certain spiritual leaders who do our thinking for us. We don't have to think about any issue that arises, because our pastor will tell us what to think. Or Dr. Dobson. Or our parent or spouse. What do I believe about stem-cell research? Well, wait just a second so I can check and see what Dr. Dobson believes. Then I will fight for that opinion adamantly against all who disagree!
Oh, my brothers and sisters! Go ahead and listen to those you revere. Listen to your pastor, and discuss your questions with him. But then do something new. Listen, really listen, to someone, many someones, who believe just the opposite. If we want to learn about Unitarians, or Catholics, wouldn't it make the best sense to invite a Unitarian or Catholic to speak to us, rather than getting all our "knowledge" from someone who has only read about them from a Baptist/Methodist/Lutheran book? If we want to learn about Harry Potter, wouldn't it make better sense to read it instead of just accepting what our Bible Study leader said about it? If we want to learn about homosexuality, wouldn't it make better sense to invite a homosexual to tell his story, instead of listening only to what the denominational leaders say?
I'm not advocating that we change our opinions. I'm advocating that we loosen them, to allow God to speak to us. If we listen openly to those with differing views, we will change: Either our own position will change, or it will grow stronger because we have gained a clearer understanding. And ironically, when it is time again to speak, we will be more readily received because we have first heard. God has much to teach us, but we can't hear, because we are ever talking.
Some of us believe we are listening to each other in the blogs here on MyChurch. We have interchanges with Christians of all backgrounds and beliefs. But are our interchanges really dialogue? Are we listening, or are we just formulating our next response? (Actually I have had some very meaningful exchanges here, and I am grateful for those who are able to offer that.)
For years I knew all the answers. Everything was written clearly in black and white, and I had the "Christian" answer to every question. God spoke to me and told me to be quiet. I did. For years I prayed, read, journaled, and listened. Then I felt God calling me again. "Speak", he said. "But I have more questions now than answers," was my response. I think that's where He wanted to take me. My mind and heart are open to His leading, and I can listen and respect others without having to talk back.
I don't just want to hear what someone says about a new piece of legisIation. I want to see it directly. I am not satisfied to know which Scripture passages my denomination thinks pertain to women in ministry. I want to read every word of the Bible for myself. I don't just want to know what someone says about Darwin. I want to read his writings for myself. I am not satisfied to only hear what my pastor thinks about how we got the Bible. I want to research it for myself, especially listening to anyone who advocates an opposing view from my own. I don't want to hear what someone says about you, my Christian brother or sister. I want to hear you directly. I will be quiet and listen, unless you are as a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal, with all the rehearsed arrogant spoutings of omniscience, which only God Himself possesses.
3:7b a time to keep silence, and a time to speak
9:17 The words of the wise heard in quiet are better than the shouting of a ruler among fools. 18:2 A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.
3:4 but let it be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable jewel of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious. Grace and Peace to you, my Christian brothers and sisters!
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| To add a comment to "I Can't Stop Talking Long Enough to Hear You" |
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| July 23, 2007 |
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"If we listen openly to those with differing views, we will change: Either our own view will change, or it will grow stronger because we have gained a clearer understanding." Amen! |
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| July 23, 2007 |
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| If we listen to other we can learn from them. Nobody(except God) knows it all. We must be willing to change when someone shows us a better way. A person not willing to learn and believes they are the only one right is a fool. Yes, I said it and sometime I have been their. |
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| July 23, 2007 |
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| You hit the nail on the head with this one. Well said and well written! |
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| July 23, 2007 |
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| "Some of you are already formulating a brilliant response to this blog and may or may not even finish reading before you post"...will you stop reading my mind so I can finish reading your post!! |
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| July 23, 2007 |
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Once again Kathy, you have produced a quality thought provoking post. I have found it very difficult to listen openly...especially to people who are so obviously wrong!! However, my profession forces me to listen, and listen, and listen. Then only speak when the time is proper. That is not to say I do it all the time. I was one who had all the answers, too, and I have prayed that God forgive me for leading anybody astray when I lacked the maturity I have now.
We all see dimly...which is why we need each other...key word: need.
I would add one more thing to what you have eloquently stated...we walk by faith. Faith stems from hearing the word and doing the word...not through hearing only. (See James) So, if one tells me they have studied, but have never walked it out...I question it. I am not saying that to understand the drug addict we need to be a drug addict, but I am saying I need to walk a while alongside of the drug addict to know how to love them. As I have said other places...love is a verb. |
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| July 23, 2007 |
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| Thanks Kathy. I learned, going through my emotional breakdown about 5 years ago, that my biggest mistake was closing my ears and mind to what others (like those in the secular medical profession and counseling professions) had to say. The humbling experience taught me that God has placed many people, in many different walks of life, from many different viewpoints, that can have something valuable to add to our lives, if we will but LISTEN. |
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| July 23, 2007 |
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| Amen Kathy! You know, perhaps the greatest thing I've gained from this place called MyChurch is a greater understanding (and tolerance!) of different perspectives of our Father! Thanks to you and many others who have stretched my understanding of God and his Word. Not that everything posted by everybody on MyChurch is truth, 'cuz a lot isn't. Some of what I write may even stretch the truth (though I pray that isn't so). But God is working on me and continues to teach me, and I'm very confident that he's working on everyone else on this website too, at the same time!! ~mike |
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| July 23, 2007 |
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Me too, Mike. Thank you!
Bunny and Soozanne, love to you!
Voice, Your first comment -lol! Your addition to the blog, I definitely agree. I don't know that I can love someone who is just "a drug addict," but I can love someone I have walked beside, in whose eyes I have seen pain and confusion, whose children I have seen playing in the yard, and who happens to be addicted to drugs.
Karl, may we all learn the lesson you have learned. Thank you for sharing your story. Grace and peace to you, my brother!
Lucy's Mike, :) You make a great plug for MyChurch. This is a great place to gain understanding of all kinds of Christians, if we are not so busy talking that we miss the opportunity to hear. You, my friend, have a quality that makes you most attractive: your humility. and humility says to others, "You are valuable," and "I am not always right." Thank you, Mike! |
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| July 23, 2007 |
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Hey Kathy, Thanks for finding the words.
By the way......... The one baby bird flew away last week. Thanks for helping me with the sign. |
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| July 24, 2007 |
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thanks.
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| July 24, 2007 |
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I agree Kathy, we don't listen enough. I non-Christian came out with a book recently, telling Christians that we need to listen to non-Christians better. I saw this on a Christian talk show, where they had the author on. I'm afraid I don't remember the name of the author or the book.
Here's an example from my life. I was in a Christian Junior High School when Battlestar Galactica first came out (the old series - with extra campiness!). A friend at my school, who was a preacher's kid, told me he wouldn't be my friend anymore if I watched a show that was so Mormon (a lot of the original Battlestar Galactica had Mormon overtones). I didn't see the problem, because I didn't see the Mormonism in it. The thing that stuck with me, though, wasn't how pius this guy was, but that I was less important to him than the TV shows I watched (which came across as very un-Christ-like, and un-pius).
When we run around, ready to defend our point of view to the (social) death at the drop of a mis-heard phrase, do we really think we're doing Christ any favors? Do we really think that anything other than Christ's love can change the world? Christ loves me a lot more than He hates my sin. If He hated my sin more than He loved me, He wouldn't have died for me to begin with. |
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| July 24, 2007 |
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Did you know that every religion in the world has a statement along these lines?
Pro 17:28 Even a fool, when he keeps silent, is considered wise; When he closes his lips, he is considered prudent. |
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| July 24, 2007 |
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Listening with an Open mind is difficult. That would be one of many things I wish I could do better. After all we a called to abide in "him", and from what I can tell from the Gospel's he was big on making people feel wanted. People are much more reosonable if they don't feel attacked.
Of course since I quit smoking that's been easier said than done.
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| July 24, 2007 |
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| Thanks Kathy for those beautiful words. Indepth listening and valuing the differences in others will make us more Christians. Thanks. God bless your ministry |
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| July 24, 2007 |
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| To listen is one of greatest forms of humbling ourselves. We put ego aside and hear the wisdom of others. Is there anything more Christian? |
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| July 24, 2007 |
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My dad would always say to me in spanish, "Hijo mio, Dios te dio dos oidos y una boca... ahora vete y has la matematica..." TRANSLATION: "My son, God gave you two ears and one mouth... now go do the math..."
Pretty wise...
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| July 24, 2007 |
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Kathy...I stumbled across this post (from a comment you made on another blog) and it was as though you were speaking the words of my heart. Every denomination has just a slightly different picture of who God is, and only by fitting them together can we see the full picture of Him instead of the fragment we've convinced our narrow minds to believe.
There IS absolute Truth in God...but I think it is far wider and deeper than we've been led to believe. |
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| July 24, 2007 |
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| Great advice for all. I feel that I learn something new every day, and because I listen more than I speak, I probably hear more than most. That is what the bible tells us to do, and there is a reason for it. Thanks for a great blog! |
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| July 24, 2007 |
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What? I wasn't listening...
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Just kidding. I think this had been my biggest obstacle to overcome in coming to Christ. I wasn't listening to the guidance I was being given. I was clanging away on my own.
Listening is very important, because a good listener, as you said, will be able to answer and discuss, not just fire off a caged response.
Great post. |
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| July 24, 2007 |
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Great post, Jess, and perfect story to illustrate the damage we can do when we spout our judgments to others who often have no frame of reference for what we are saying. I think it is scary how much we resemble the Pharisees of the NT, to whom Jesus directed His harshest criticisms. Prov. 17:28 fits perfectly here! Thanks!
Thanks, Dave! You are so right. None of us responds well to being verbally attacked. Jesus treated all kinds of people with gentleness and kindness, except for the "churchy" people who thought they knew all the answers!
Matthew, you hit the key to being able to listen: valuing others, and valuing their differences! (I am so thankful that everyone in the world is not just like me!) Thanks!
Thanks, Patrick. 2 very important words in your post: humility and ego. The answer and the problem!
Cathy, was there just one baby? Did you take pictures? The sign must have worked! |
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| July 24, 2007 |
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Growing, lol! Thanks for the humor, the personal testimony, and for summarizing this blog so well!
Dr. W., your papá was a wise hombre! (btw I'm tri-lingual: English, Spanish, and Spanglish!)
Thank you, Allie! You said something I wish I had said! There IS absolute Truth in God...but . . . it is far wider and deeper than we've been led to believe. Yes! Absolutely! :) (It's not that it doesn't exist, just that no one of us has it all, except for God!)
Thanks, Deb. Sincere listeners can attract more friends than they know what to do with! People are starved to be heard! Generally we introverts struglle less with listening that our extrovert friends do. |
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| July 24, 2007 |
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Great !!! I totally agree. I talk to people all the time I disagree with... I want to know their opinion.
One day (probably after hitting forty ) I came to this revelational conclusion that all my opinions are ,.. well,.. opinions.
Sure there are things I know to be true,..facts if you will. However, there are alot of things that I just think...I know. I am definitly interested in the POV that opposes mine so I can either strengthen my position or change it if necessary.
How many people ,..Christian or otherwise , ever ,.. I mean EVER..change their opinion.
My oldest son used to love this band ,.. had every cd,.. now doesnt even listen to them . I though how strange.Just completely changed .But thats taste and a little different though truth be told I STILL think the Fonz is cool.Whatev.
I really enjoyed this blog .I could go on and on ...but you pretty much said it!
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| July 24, 2007 |
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| Very good! I pray we all stop to really listen and go when God directs our paths even if we think we are un prepared. |
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| July 24, 2007 |
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One day (probably after hitting forty ) I came to this revelational conclusion that all my opinions are ,.. well,.. opinions. Interesting, King! Me too at about the same age, and I have heard several others say the same thing about 40! How many people ,..Christian or otherwise , ever ,.. I mean EVER..change their opinion. It does happen, King. I have personally adopted this Ben Franklin quote: Having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, for better information or fuller consideration to change opinions even on important subjects, which I once thought right, but found to be otherwise. (1787) I would, however, agree that it is highly unlikely an argument or debate will change either side's opinion, because it's unlikely either side is really listening, except to formulate a rebuttal. Thank you for adding such thoughtful commentary, King!
Valerie, good point. Not only do we need to learn to listen to each other, but also to God, and likewise, if our prayers are filled with talking, we are not available to hear Him.
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| July 25, 2007 |
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| Great post, as always Kathy! ;) Kip |
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| July 25, 2007 |
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Hi Kip! Thank you for your encouragement! |
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| July 27, 2007 |
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Maybe this is for its own blog but this gotme thinking. Most churches take amoment to greet each other , "shake the hand of someone near you" ,..etc.. and we all have seen the socialite go from hand to hand without stopping and talking or really looking the people in the eye,.. like its a contest how many hands you can shake before time to get back to your seat.
I was that person! One sunday an elder who had my hand pulled me back and forced me to look into his eyes...nad he said ,.. "always look someone in the eye when you shake their hand".
I never forgot it. Now, I am more interested in the actual connection with one or two people on sunday morning than trying to pretend to like a bunch of people.
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| July 27, 2007 |
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| Great testimony, King, and so true! We get so preoccupied with talking or doing (maybe even in service to others) that we miss the true connection that God intended in our relationships. Meeting each other's eyes. A listening heart. A sympathetic ear. Love. Thank you, King! |
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| July 28, 2007 |
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What?...uh...hmmm.
My ears are open, Kathy...speak!.. I am listening.
Great Blog...and thank you. |
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| July 28, 2007 |
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| lol, JR! I wrote a whole blog telling everyone to listen, and I never said anything! :) Kids do that too: Mommy, Mommy, Mommy, Mommy, Mommy, Mommy . . . What? . . . Uh, nothing! |
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| August 01, 2007 |
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What I find interesting, is that the folks that seem to insert their "knowledge" on a lot of people's blogs are not responding to this blog !!!!!
Hmmmmmmm??????????????????????????? |
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| August 01, 2007 |
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Cathy, if it was really "knowledge" that I contributed to other people's blogs, I might think you were talking to me. But since it's not, I'll consider myself safe.  |
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| August 01, 2007 |
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Thanks for all you added here, Alice! You get it! :)
Hi Patty! Thanks for your kindness, and welcome to MyChurch! So nice to meet you!
Cathy, I dare not comment! :) |
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| August 01, 2007 |
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Mike, stop it, I told you, if I was going to refer to you anywhere I would tell you first AND I would use your name. I am not a passive aggressive kinda gal !!!!!!!!
You know I think you're the mack daddy bomb dude !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| August 04, 2007 |
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I know what you are saying and I agree fully. For years I went only by those who said stuff instead of investigating and researching for myself. I went to a catholic church and did not fit. Finally I found one that was for me. I read Harry Potter. Even when I was told that it was all evil. Then I finished the series and found out that it is just a story. A story about good vs. evil and good rules. Where is that different from out world and how many Christians feel. We wantas many followers of Christ as is possible. It is truly important to listen to everyone. I befriended a homosexual who I tried to turn back to Christ. I am against Homosexuality but I can say that I have learned a great deal from him. If not all of it I wanted to know or believed in. Kathy I believe fully in what you have wrote. Also, God has told me when to stay silent and when to listen. Colleen |
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| August 05, 2007 |
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This has been very thought provoking for me to read this. I connected with it right away!! Yes, I have many lost friends, but they add to my life so much!! I know, as it always does, there will be a day when they have heavy hearts about something, and knowing when to step in and minister to them is a refreshing voice that I hear from the Holy Spirit. It gives me a chance to plant the seed of God's love in them. I am a member of another board where I am attacked constantly for my belief's, which always offered in love. People on this board constantly squabble...about religion, politics, you name it, and call each other out regularly on the board. I have been one of those people who's been called out, but it's all good. I can stand!! I was not broken in what I believe, but I was humbled at how I came across. We have to remember that lost people are blind people. Using words they don't understand is like talking to a wall. Some people are in awe with the most popular "religion" of "humanism" and "polytheism" on this particular board...Christianity is not popular on the board in other words, but I know I am there for a reason...even if it's just one persons life that God directs my way...and He has!! Glory to God!! I've befriended many people who need someone to pray with them, even if it's over the internet...LOL Please pray for me. I'm so glad that Jesus ate with the tax collectors and prostitutes, and brought His love into their lives, and accepted them...we should follow His example. get out of your comfort zone and reach out to other's as Jesus would. You'd be surprised by how God can use you... Debbye BTW, I'm new here!! LOL I'm Debbye from Alabama~~Good to meet you all!! |
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| August 05, 2007 |
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| I am with you Kathy! That is why I believe little bits from so many different denominations. |
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| August 05, 2007 |
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| Sue, Debbye, and Colleen, thank you for sharing your comments; and Debbye and Colleen, welcome to MyChurch! I look forward to getting to know you! |
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| August 16, 2007 |
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I was really convicted by what you had to say. I am guilty as charged since I was thinking what I thought I would say to you. God has been working on me to teach me how to listen, and God knows He has his work cut out for himself. I am a diamond in the rough and they don't get any rougher!!!
1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform [it] until the day of Jesus Christ:
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| August 17, 2007 |
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| Hi Regina! Thanks for sharing your story and one of my favorite verses. He who began a good work in us will be faithful to complete it! Welcome to MyChurch! |
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| September 07, 2007 |
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Kathy I love your boldness, simply love it. Me thinks me have a kindred spirit here. I have two things to share:
I am a national public speaker, leadership facilitator and CEO of my own leadership company. I've been in the business 18 years now, to God's Glory. I teach the benefits of becoming a good listener, and show in my workshops how we are really poor listeners, and most of us have never been taught how to listen. Listening is a skill that many in our culture lack. Many people believe that because you are a preacher or a public speaker, I'm both, that you love to talk. Yes, I do love to talk, but I love to listen more. My workshops are usually 3 to 4 hr at a time, now when it's like this, you're supposed to give 10 to fifteen minutes breaks in between. I can't tell you how many times, people in those sessions refused to break, why, because they were learning, from who?: From each other. I'm a facilitator, I'm a paid listener and a paid talker. There is so much value in listening, so much to learn and the truth be told, you really can't help another until you have totally listened to them, not assumed them, listened to them.
My second example: One day I ran into a young lady that I really didn't know personally but was a friend of a friend, she was in so much pain, you could see in all in her face. While talking with her, she just began to cry and pour out to me and then she said, "I need a drink, do you mind going with me into that bar?" No not at all I heard myself say, and inside I went, she ordered her drink and I ordered my ginger ale with a twist of lemon. I listened to her story of her anger, her pain, her bitterness, her fears for more than three hours. I then share with her what the Lord layed on my heart and ask her if she mind if I prayed for her. She agreed, I prayed and left. Never saw or heard from her again until about ten years later, when once again I ran into her on the street. She was a totally different person. She was saved. She was living her life for Christ. She shared a lot with me that day, but it was one thing that she said that impacted me the most. She said, "I'll never forget what you did for me that day." I said, "what you mean the prayer?" She laughed and said, "oh yeah, that too, what I meant was how you as a woman of God went with me into a bar, stay with me and listened to me, I can't tell you what all that did for me that day, I'll never forget that." Wow, I thank God he gave me ears to hear and listen.
Pastor Aminata
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| September 07, 2007 |
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| Pastor Aminata, thank you for sharing your stories here! You and I are surely sisters! Listening is an important art that used to be learned by example, but perhaps now must be deliberately taught. The problem is, like with many other problems, we don't realize that we don't know how to listen, because we think we are doing it when we pause to let the other person speak. |
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| September 09, 2007 |
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Our Jewish and Messianic brothers and sisters call this a Midrash..... and of course we musn't forget our Lord was a Jewish man....I think too often we in the west put this christianity thing in a box, we have it figured out in such a white anglow saxton kind of way and it in truth is such a rainbow of excellence!!!! Many many flavors are represented at this banquet. For once the white man is not in charge!!! Hallelujah!!!!! |
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| September 09, 2007 |
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Hi Hands! Good addition. Every Christian has something to bring to the table, and no Christian has everything figured out perfectly (although some seem to believe they do)!
lol, Joe! |
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| October 13, 2007 |
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| Thought-provoking quote I just saw on Joey's blog: Most of us retain enough of the theological attitude to think that we are little gods. (Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.) |
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| November 30, 2007 |
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Truly so true. Sometimes I have to wonder if it isn't because we aren't ready to hear what they have to say... but my mentors have always told me God made you with two ears and one mouth.
Use them proportionately and you might become wise.
Bless you I haven't read the entire comment section but I will have to come back
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| December 01, 2007 |
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| Thank you, Becky, and God bless you! |
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| January 16, 2008 |
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Hi Kathy, I think another good verse to use here is: Proverbs 18:2 - A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing personal opinion. Another excellent blog. My wife always said I was an excellent listener and that was why people seem to always come to me with their problems. I explained to her, I do my best to listen but I only appeared to be a "good listener" because I was too slow to grasp it as quick as they were talking. Of course this is the same sweet lady that always tells me if I want your opinion I'll tell you what it is.=0) Peace be with you Bob |
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| January 16, 2008 |
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| Wow. This is an old post but these good ones always get bumped at the right time for me. Your first full paragraph is SPOT ON.....wow. Automatic pilot. What a great way to state it. |
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| January 16, 2008 |
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| Yes, I think the comments you have express all I would say! Great thing to remember, great blog! |
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| January 16, 2008 |
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lol Bob! I love your humble sense of humor! And thanks for the verse! I liked it so much I added it to the blog!
Thank you, Loren! A blog is never too old to comment on! I'm glad the timing was just right!
Thank you, Yahschild! You are a blessing! |
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| October 24, 2008 |
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| Thank You, |
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| October 24, 2008 |
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| Hi Simon! Welcome to MyChurch, and thank you for reading my blog! |
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