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I Can't Stop Talking Long Enough to Hear You
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Bunny
July 23, 2007

"If we listen openly to those with differing views, we will change:  Either our own view will change, or it will grow stronger because we have gained a clearer understanding."

Amen!   

Faithrock
July 23, 2007
If we listen to other we can learn from them. Nobody(except God) knows it all. We must be willing to change when someone shows us a better way. A person not willing to learn and believes they are the only one right is a fool. Yes, I said it and sometime I have been their. 
Soozanne
July 23, 2007
You hit the nail on the head with this one.  Well said and well written!
voice_in_dc
July 23, 2007
"Some of you are already formulating a brilliant response to this blog and may or may not even finish reading before you post"...will you stop reading my mind so I can finish reading your post!!
voice_in_dc
July 23, 2007
Once again Kathy, you have produced a quality thought provoking post.  I have found it very difficult to listen openly...especially to people who are so obviously wrong!!  However, my profession forces me to listen, and listen, and listen. Then only speak when the time is proper. That is not to say I do it all the time. I was one who had all the answers, too, and I have prayed that God forgive me for leading anybody astray when I lacked the maturity I have now.

We all see dimly...which is why we need each other...key word: need.

I would add one more thing to what you have eloquently stated...we walk by faith. Faith stems from hearing the word and doing the word...not through hearing only. (See James)  So, if one tells me they have studied, but have never walked it out...I question it. I am not saying that to understand the drug addict we need to be a drug addict, but I am saying I need to walk a while alongside of the drug addict to know how to love them. As I have said other places...love is a verb.
Karl K
July 23, 2007
Thanks Kathy.  I learned, going through my emotional breakdown about 5 years ago, that my biggest mistake was closing my ears and mind to what others (like those in the secular medical profession and counseling professions) had to say.  The humbling experience taught me that God has placed many people, in many different walks of life, from many different viewpoints, that can have something valuable to add to our lives, if we will but LISTEN. 
Mike n Laura
July 23, 2007
Amen Kathy! You know, perhaps the greatest thing I've gained from this place called MyChurch is a greater understanding (and tolerance!) of different perspectives of our Father! Thanks to you and many others who have stretched my understanding of God and his Word. Not that everything posted by everybody on MyChurch is truth, 'cuz a lot isn't. Some of what I write may even stretch the truth (though I pray that isn't so). But God is working on me and continues to teach me, and I'm very confident that he's working on everyone else on this website too, at the same time!!  ~mike
Kathy
July 23, 2007
Me too, Mike.  Thank you!

Bunny and Soozanne, love to you!

Voice, Your first comment -lol!  Your addition to the blog, I definitely agree.  I don't know that  I can love someone who is just "a drug addict," but I can love someone I have walked beside, in whose eyes I have seen pain and confusion, whose children I have seen playing in the yard, and who happens to be addicted to drugs.

Karl, may we all learn the lesson you have learned.  Thank you for sharing your story.  Grace and peace to you, my brother!

Lucy's Mike,  :)   You make a great plug for MyChurch.  This is a great place to gain understanding of all kinds of Christians, if we are not so busy talking that we miss the opportunity to hear.  You, my friend, have a quality that makes you most attractive:  your humility.  and humility says to others, "You are valuable," and "I am not always right."  Thank you, Mike!   
Cathy
July 23, 2007
Hey Kathy,
Thanks for finding the words.

By the way.........
The one baby bird flew away last week.  Thanks for helping me with the sign. 
hopefienddave
July 24, 2007
thanks.

Dave
JessIAm
July 24, 2007
I agree Kathy, we don't listen enough.  I non-Christian came out with a book recently, telling Christians that we need to listen to non-Christians better.  I saw this on a Christian talk show, where they had the author on.  I'm afraid I don't remember the name of the author or the book.

Here's an example from my life.  I was in a Christian Junior High School when Battlestar Galactica first came out (the old series - with extra campiness!).  A friend at my school, who was a preacher's kid, told me he wouldn't be my friend anymore if I watched a show that was so Mormon (a lot of the original Battlestar Galactica had Mormon overtones).  I didn't see the problem, because I didn't see the Mormonism in it.  The thing that stuck with me, though, wasn't how pius this guy was, but that I was less important to him than the TV shows I watched (which came across as very un-Christ-like, and un-pius).

When we run around, ready to defend our point of view to the (social) death at the drop of a mis-heard phrase, do we really think we're doing Christ any favors?  Do we really think that anything other than Christ's love can change the world?  Christ loves me a lot more than He hates my sin.  If He hated my sin more than He loved me, He wouldn't have died for me to begin with.
JessIAm
July 24, 2007
Did you know that every religion in the world has a statement along these lines?

Pro 17:28 Even a fool, when he keeps silent, is considered wise; When he closes his lips, he is considered prudent.

hopefienddave
July 24, 2007

Listening with an Open mind is difficult.  That would be one of many things I wish I could do better.  After all we a called to abide in "him", and from what I can tell from the Gospel's he was big on making people feel wanted.  People are much more reosonable if they don't feel attacked.

Of course since I quit smoking that's been easier said than done.

Love,

Dave

MATHEW PHILIP
July 24, 2007
Thanks Kathy for those beautiful words. Indepth listening and valuing the differences in others will make us more Christians. Thanks. God bless your ministry
Apostle  Patrick
July 24, 2007
To listen is one of greatest forms of humbling ourselves. We put ego aside and hear the wisdom of others. Is there anything more Christian?
Dr Wilson Morales
July 24, 2007
My dad would always say to me in spanish, "Hijo mio, Dios te dio dos oidos y una boca... ahora vete y has la matematica..."  TRANSLATION: "My son, God gave you two ears and one mouth... now go do the math..."

Pretty wise...

Dr. W.
Allie
July 24, 2007
Kathy...I stumbled across this post (from a comment you made on another blog) and it was as though you were speaking the words of my heart.  Every denomination has just a slightly different picture of who God is, and only by fitting them together can we see the full picture of Him instead of the fragment we've convinced our narrow minds to believe.

There IS absolute Truth in God...but I think it is far wider and deeper than we've been led to believe.
Deb
July 24, 2007
Great advice for all.  I feel that I learn something new every day, and because I listen more than I speak, I probably hear more than most.  That is what the bible tells us to do, and there is a reason for it.  Thanks for a great blog!
Growing In Faith
July 24, 2007
What?  I wasn't listening...

:)

Just kidding.  I think this had been my biggest obstacle to overcome in coming to Christ.  I wasn't listening to the guidance I was being given.  I was clanging away on my own.

Listening is very important, because a good listener, as you said, will be able to answer and discuss, not just fire off a caged response.

Great post.
Kathy
July 24, 2007
Great post, Jess, and perfect story to illustrate the damage we can do when we spout our judgments to others who often have no frame of reference for what we are saying.  I think it is scary how much we resemble the Pharisees of the NT, to whom Jesus directed His harshest criticisms.  Prov. 17:28 fits perfectly here!  Thanks!

Thanks, Dave!  You are so right.  None of us responds well to being verbally attacked.  Jesus treated all kinds of people with gentleness and kindness, except for the "churchy" people who thought they knew all the answers!

Matthew, you hit the key to being able to listen:  valuing others, and valuing their differences!  (I am so thankful that everyone in the world is not just like me!)  Thanks!

Thanks, Patrick.  2 very important words in your post:  humility and ego.  The answer and the problem!

Cathy, was there just one baby?  Did you take pictures?  The sign must have worked!
Kathy
July 24, 2007
Growing, lol!  Thanks for the humor, the personal testimony, and for summarizing this blog so well!

Dr. W., your papá was a wise hombre!  (btw I'm tri-lingual:  English, Spanish, and Spanglish!)

Thank you, Allie!  You said something I wish I had said! 
There IS absolute Truth in God...but . . . it is far wider and deeper than we've been led to believe.
Yes! Absolutely!   :)    (It's not that it doesn't exist, just that no one of us has it all, except for God!) 

Thanks, Deb.  Sincere listeners can attract more friends than they know what to do with!  People are starved to be heard!  Generally we introverts struglle less with listening that our extrovert friends do.
King of cheese
July 24, 2007
Great !!! I totally agree. I talk to people all the time I disagree with... I want to know their opinion.

One day (probably after hitting forty ) I came to this revelational conclusion that all my opinions are ,.. well,.. opinions.

Sure there are things I know to be true,..facts if you will. However, there are alot of things that I just think...I know. I am definitly interested in the POV that opposes mine so I can either strengthen my position or change it if necessary.

How many people ,..Christian or otherwise , ever ,.. I mean EVER..change their opinion.

My oldest son used to love this band ,.. had every cd,.. now doesnt even listen to them . I though how strange.Just completely changed .But thats taste and a little different though truth be told I STILL think the Fonz is cool.Whatev.

I really enjoyed this blog .I could go on and on ...but you pretty much said it!
 SisterValerie Lynn Williams
July 24, 2007
Very good! I pray we all stop to really listen and go when God directs our paths even if we think we are un prepared.
Kathy
July 24, 2007
One day (probably after hitting forty ) I came to this revelational conclusion that all my opinions are ,.. well,.. opinions.  Interesting, King!  Me too at about the same age, and I have heard several others say the same thing about 40! 
How many people ,..Christian or otherwise , ever ,.. I mean EVER..change their opinion.  It does happen, King.  I have personally adopted this Ben Franklin quote:  Having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, for better information or fuller consideration to change opinions even on important subjects, which I once thought right, but found to be otherwise. (1787)  I would, however, agree that it is highly unlikely an argument or debate will change either side's opinion, because it's unlikely either side is really listening, except to formulate a rebuttal.  Thank you for adding such thoughtful commentary, King!

Valerie, good point.  Not only do we need to learn to listen to each other, but also to God, and likewise, if our prayers are filled with talking, we are not available to hear Him.
 
Kipper
July 25, 2007
Great post, as always Kathy!  ;)  Kip
Kathy
July 25, 2007

Hi Kip!  Thank you for your encouragement!

King of cheese
July 27, 2007
Maybe this is for its own blog but this gotme thinking. Most churches take amoment to greet each other , "shake the hand of someone near you" ,..etc.. and we all have seen the socialite go from hand to hand without stopping and talking or really looking the people in the eye,.. like its a contest how many hands you can shake before time to get back to your seat.

I was that person! One sunday an elder who had my hand pulled me back and forced me to look into his eyes...nad he said ,.. "always look someone in the eye when you shake their hand".

I never forgot it. Now, I am more interested in the actual connection with one or two people on sunday morning than trying to pretend to like a bunch of people.
Kathy
July 27, 2007
Great testimony, King, and so true!  We get so preoccupied with talking or doing (maybe even in service to others) that we miss the true connection that God intended in our relationships.  Meeting each other's eyes.  A listening heart.  A sympathetic ear.  Love.  Thank you, King!
JR  Ambassadors for Christ
July 28, 2007
What?...uh...hmmm.

My ears are open, Kathy...speak!.. I am listening.

Great Blog...and thank you.
Kathy
July 28, 2007
lol, JR!  I wrote a whole blog telling everyone to listen, and I never said anything!    :)    Kids do that too:   Mommy, Mommy, Mommy, Mommy, Mommy, Mommy . . . What? . . . Uh, nothing!
Cathy
August 01, 2007
What I find interesting, is that the folks that seem to insert their "knowledge" on a lot of people's blogs are not responding to this blog !!!!!

Hmmmmmmm??????????????????????????? 
Mike n Laura
August 01, 2007

Cathy, if it was really "knowledge" that I contributed to other people's blogs, I might think you were talking to me. But since it's not, I'll consider myself safe. 

Kathy
August 01, 2007
Thanks for all you added here, Alice!  You get it!   :)

Hi Patty!  Thanks for your kindness, and welcome to MyChurch!  So nice to meet you!

Cathy, I dare not comment!   :)
Cathy
August 01, 2007
Mike, stop it, I told you, if I was going to refer to you anywhere I would tell you first AND I would use your name.  I am not a passive aggressive kinda gal !!!!!!!!

You know I think you're the mack daddy bomb dude !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Froggies
August 04, 2007
I know what you are saying and I agree fully.  For years I went only by those who said stuff instead of investigating and researching for myself.  I went to a catholic church and did not fit.  Finally I found one that was for me.  I read Harry Potter.  Even when I was told that it was all evil.  Then I finished the series and found out that it is just a story.  A story about good vs. evil and good rules.  Where is that different from out world and how many Christians feel.  We wantas many followers of Christ as is possible.  It is truly important to listen to everyone.  I befriended a homosexual who I tried to turn back to Christ.  I am against Homosexuality but I can say that I have learned a great deal from him.  If not all of it I wanted to know or believed in.  Kathy I believe fully in what you have wrote.  Also, God has told me when to stay silent and when to listen.
Colleen
Debbye Hicks
August 05, 2007

This has been very thought provoking for me to read this. I connected with it right away!! Yes, I have many lost friends, but they add to my life so much!! I know, as it always does, there will be a day when they have heavy hearts about something, and knowing when to step in and minister to them is a refreshing voice that I hear from the Holy Spirit. It gives me a chance to plant the seed of God's love in them.

I am a member of another board where I am attacked constantly for my belief's, which always offered in love. People on this board constantly squabble...about religion, politics, you name it, and call each other out regularly on the board. I have been one of those people who's been called out, but it's all good. I can stand!! I was not broken in what I believe, but I was humbled at how I came across. We have to remember that lost people are blind people. Using words they don't understand is like talking to a wall.  Some people are in awe with the most popular "religion" of "humanism" and "polytheism" on this particular board...Christianity is not popular on the board in other words, but I know I am there for a reason...even if it's just one persons life that God directs my way...and He has!! Glory to God!! I've befriended many people who need someone to pray with them, even if it's over the internet...LOL Please pray for me. 

I'm so glad that Jesus ate with the tax collectors and prostitutes, and brought His love into their lives, and accepted them...we should follow His example. get out of your comfort zone and reach out to other's as Jesus would. You'd be surprised by how God can use you...

Debbye 

BTW, I'm new here!! LOL

I'm Debbye from Alabama~~Good to meet you all!! 

Sue
August 05, 2007
I am with you Kathy!  That is why I believe little bits from so many different denominations. 
Kathy
August 05, 2007
Sue, Debbye, and Colleen, thank you for sharing your comments; and Debbye and Colleen, welcome to MyChurch!  I look forward to getting to know you!
Regina Wall
August 16, 2007
I was really convicted by what you had to say.  I am guilty as charged since I was thinking what I thought I would say to you.  God has been working on me to teach me how to listen, and God knows He has his work cut out for himself.  I am a diamond in the rough and they don't get any rougher!!!

1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform [it] until the day of Jesus Christ:

Kathy
August 17, 2007
Hi Regina!  Thanks for sharing your story and one of my favorite verses.  He who began a good work in us will be faithful to complete it!  Welcome to MyChurch! 
Pastor_Ken_and_Aminata
September 07, 2007

Kathy I love your boldness, simply love it.    Me thinks me have a kindred spirit here.  I have two things to share:

I am a national public speaker, leadership facilitator and CEO of my own leadership company.  I've been in the business 18 years now, to God's Glory.   I teach the benefits of becoming a good listener, and show in my workshops how we are really poor listeners, and most of us have never been taught how to listen.   Listening is a skill that many in our culture lack.  Many people believe that because you are a preacher or a public speaker, I'm both, that you love to talk.   Yes, I do love to talk, but I love to listen more.   My workshops are usually 3 to 4 hr at a time, now when it's like this, you're supposed to give 10 to fifteen minutes breaks in between.  I can't tell you how many times, people in those sessions refused to break, why, because they were learning, from who?:  From each other.   I'm a facilitator, I'm a paid listener and a paid talker.    There is so much value in listening, so much to learn and the truth be told, you really can't help another until you have totally listened to them, not assumed them, listened to them.

My second example:  One day I ran into a young lady that I really didn't know personally but was a friend of a friend, she was in so much pain, you could see in all in her face.   While talking with her, she just began to cry and pour out to me and then she said, "I need a drink, do you mind going with me into that bar?"    No not at all I heard myself say, and inside I went, she ordered her drink and I ordered my ginger ale with a twist of lemon.    I listened to her story of her anger, her pain, her bitterness, her fears for more than three hours.   I then share with her what the Lord layed on my heart and ask her if she mind if I prayed for her.  She agreed, I prayed and left.   Never saw or heard from her again until about ten years later, when once again I ran into her on the street.   She was a totally different person.  She was saved.  She was living her life for Christ.   She shared a lot with me that day, but it was one thing that she said that impacted me the most.  She said, "I'll never forget what you did for me that day."   I said, "what you mean the prayer?"  She laughed and said, "oh yeah, that too, what I meant was how you as a woman of God went with me into a bar, stay with me and listened to me, I can't tell you what all that did for me that day, I'll never forget that."   Wow, I thank God he gave me ears to hear and listen.

Pastor Aminata

Kathy
September 07, 2007
Pastor Aminata, thank you for sharing your stories here!  You and I are surely sisters!  Listening is an important art that used to be learned by example, but perhaps now must be deliberately taught.  The problem is, like with many other problems, we don't realize that we don't know how to listen, because we think we are doing it when we pause to let the other person speak.   
Kathy
September 09, 2007
Another great blog about listening:  http://www.mychurch.org/blog/60738/Only-Half-way-Listening
IN THE HANDS OF THE POTTER
September 09, 2007

Our Jewish and Messianic brothers and sisters call this a Midrash.....
and of course we musn't forget our Lord was a Jewish man....I think too often we in the west put this christianity thing in a box, we have it figured out in such a white anglow saxton kind of way and it in truth is such a rainbow of excellence!!!!  Many many flavors are represented at this banquet.  For once the white man is not in charge!!!   Hallelujah!!!!! 

Kathy
September 09, 2007
Hi Hands!  Good addition.  Every Christian has something to bring to the table, and no Christian has everything figured out perfectly (although some seem to believe they do)!

lol, Joe!
Kathy
October 13, 2007
Thought-provoking quote I just saw on Joey's blog


Most of us retain enough of the theological attitude to think that we are little gods.  (Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.)

 
Rebel with a Cause
November 30, 2007
Truly so true. Sometimes I have to wonder if it isn't because we aren't ready to hear what they have to say... but my mentors have always told me God made you with two ears and one mouth.

Use them proportionately and you might become wise.

Bless you I haven't read the entire comment section but I will have to come back

Love ya
Kathy
December 01, 2007
Thank you, Becky, and God bless you!
Bob Clement
January 16, 2008
Hi Kathy,
  I think another good verse to use here is:
Proverbs 18:2 - A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing personal opinion.
  Another excellent blog.
  My wife always said I was an excellent listener and that was why people seem to always come to me with their problems. I explained to her, I do my best to listen but I only appeared to be a "good listener" because I was too slow to grasp it as quick as they were talking.
  Of course this is the same sweet lady that always tells me if I want your opinion I'll tell you what it is.=0)
  Peace be with you
     Bob
LorenDP
January 16, 2008
Wow.  This is an old post but these good ones always get bumped at the right time for me.  Your first full paragraph is SPOT ON.....wow.  Automatic pilot.  What a great way to state it.
Yahschild
January 16, 2008
Yes, I think the comments you have express all I would say!  Great thing to remember, great blog!
Kathy
January 16, 2008
lol Bob!  I love your humble sense of humor!  And thanks for the verse!  I liked it so much I added it to the blog!

Thank you, Loren!  A blog is never too old to comment on!  I'm glad the timing was just right!

Thank you, Yahschild!  You are a blessing!
Simon
October 24, 2008
Thank You,
Kathy
October 24, 2008
Hi Simon!  Welcome to MyChurch, and thank you for reading my blog!