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Will the Lord forgive me? Am I required to forgive EVERYONE, of everything? According to scripture, if I don't forgive, then the Lord will NOT forgive my sins. 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. 11:25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. 17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. 17:4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him. |
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| May 02, 2009 |
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| Gary I do believe you just answered your own question with what God says. One of the tenets of the Lord's Prayer is Lord forgive me in accordancw the propensity or capacity in which I can forgive others. Yes I would venture to say forgiveness has a conditiional aspect about it....Love ya Pastor Chuck |
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| May 02, 2009 |
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| sorry, this was meant as a rhetorical question. |
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| May 03, 2009 |
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Awesome blog Gary;
You know I have been going through things the past two weeks, of old wounds, that I have been trying to work on... I want to forgive everyone, but being a person it's hard for us to let go... why do we want to keep this pain? if we don't forgive we keep deep and terrible pain. Pain that cause depression, and physical, aliments... I had some things that happened to me as girl, and the past three years the Lord has showed me how to get reid of my grief, and unforgivness...
He shown me that when I said I have forgiven, I hadn't forgiven, if you keep it in you heart, and let it out once in a while, but put it back there, in it's secert place. then when that person hurts you, or someone else hurts you take it out again....
I remember such a day and I was just crying about stuff the past, when I just said to God when am I ever going to grow up, when am I ever going to for get reid this stuff I am so tired of this load, it feels so heavy...
In a quiet voice He said to me let it out, but don't let it back in, let it out but let it back in....
I cried I thought everything out... I could feel the load being lifted off of me. It felt so good...
I have been working on some stuff that doesn't come easy... Hurts from my exhusband that died in 93...
I hate the anger after all these years, my kids don't need this.then there is his ex girlfriend who was awful to two out of three of my sons... and he aloud it... I want to forgive her also... and then there are my crimes (sins) that I have done and I need to forgive myself... I really need prayers on this... For one I don't where Brian is, is he suffering or did he call on the Lord... and the anger hurts so deep to be angry when he could be suffering... And Dixie, well everyone deserves forgiveness, and it's for the person who needs to forgive more then the person you need to forgive...
Knowing this; why? can't I get past these three stupid things...
in the past coupe weeks Brian and dixies kids have found us... Dixie denied she was pregnant and Brian said the baby both of them died, two different times, two different babies...
But I had heard from his aunt it was a lie, and that well let just say they had the kids adopted out... after Brian died I often wondered about these kids and how could we ever find them...
to me it was always important for my sons to know their Half sister from their fathers first marriage, and this was important to me also...
Well they found my Daughter Tina, and Tina called us. They were adopted close by and they where adopted by the same nurse they found, and raised them together, praise God.... A girl Lena and then Ty a boy... and they look so much like the father... and I am thinking I have to get working on this forgiveness things for their sakes... as well as my step daughter who is my baby girl... and my three sons... I open this up and it is something I have been trying to do for years..
why is this so hard to give it up, or let go these people deserve forgivenss... I can't figure it out what I am doing wrong... and I am tried of the heavy weight it holds...
Thanks Gary for this post... The Lord is telling me something...
we met the kids and we are so happy they have a wonderful mother ,we hadn't met the father yet,
she is willing to share her children with us... they aren't ready to meet their mother yet... and I want to, not have hard feelings for her for their sakes...
Wow! maybe I shared to much imformation, but it feels good to share it... |
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| May 03, 2009 |
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Marilyn, I am so happy that you are allowing the Lord to work on this. It is the first step to ask Him for help. And then relax, let the Lord do His work in you. The more "you" struggle with this, the harder it will be. Let Him work on the callous that has built up around your heart. My mom "hated" my dad for many years after they divorced, she refused for many years to forgive him, because of the pain he had caused her. It was not until her mom (my grandmother) had died, that she released the hatred. We told her (my brother and I) that we had invited my dad to the funeral, she was so angry! But we stood by and watched as the Lord performed a miracle on her heart. she has forgiven him, and now the two are friends. They talk and laugh. My mom went to help my cousin move, with my brother, and while there in Kansas, they are staying in my dad's spare room. So just relax in the Lord, let Him work in your heart, don't resist Him! |
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| May 03, 2009 |
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Hi Rob, and everyone:
Marilyn, if I were Satan my tactic would be to cause you to focus on yourself and then I'd convince you that a good Christian wouldn't have those feelings and that because you have them it means that you really haven't forgiven. You would then completely focus on yourself and begin to self destruct in an effort to figure out how to get control of the situation.
The fact is that, in your heart, you don't want to have unforgiveness but you've also been convinced into believing that pain that comes up with the remembrance of these past events proves you haven't forgiven them.
First off, feelings are always a response to what we are meditating and thinking upon. If I am deceived into trying an changing my feelings, and deceived into condemning myself for having them then I end up in a very dark place. Setting one's mind upon their own thoughts and feelings is actually setting ones mind on the flesh, and Romans 8 tells us that the mind set upon the flesh is death, and so it is.
So first things first. You do not know yourself and you cannot save yourself. Deliverances and escapes from death belong to the Lord. He is the one who would know any reason that may exist as to why or what. And He has given you the Holy Spirit to lead you into all the truth. So first off you acknowledge that fact to Father. "Father thank you that you have sent your Son to pay the price of my redemption! Father by Jesus' word you have given me your Spirit to lead me into all the truth and I thank you! I acknowledge the fact that I have been tempted to lean on my own understanding and I have been striving to achieve what only you can provide...wisdom and understanding. Father I give myself to you and trust in the fact that you love me enough to have sent your only Son to die for me; He is worthy to receive the reward of his suffering and that reward is me. You did all that before I ever knew you and now I throw myself upon your love, and trust that since I have been redeemed by Jesus' death I will also be saved by his life...not by my efforts but because of his!"
My dear sister Marilyn, you have taken the voice of the Spirit who prompts you to forgive, as a challenge that you must achieve. A lack of bad feelings is not necessarily a sign of genuine forgiveness. Forgiveness of our debtors is merely "releasing" them from any demand of payment or restitution of the debt that is owed to us. It is a debt that has been cancelled not at debt that has been paid. Just as Father has cancelled the debt that was against us [Colossians 2], so too now you have released those people from the debt that they owed you. That does not mean that the pain of past wrongs may not still be there. It does not mean that when you see those persons, or talk about those persons, or think about those persons, that the pain and hurt may not come up. If it does we just "own" those feelings before the Lord. We take those feelings to the Lord and honestly express them to him! At the same time we also acknowledge the fact that we released those persons from any debt that they may owe us; just as He has released us from any debt that we might owe him. At this point we begin to worship him and our minds are set on our awesome Father...the feelings will [eventually!] then completely loose their power. The enemy will no longer tempt you by turning your thoughts to those things because they will merely be a catalyst that causes you to go to Father!
One of the most subtle forms of deception is to get us to the place where we condemn ourselves for our feelings! We condemn ourselves for our weaknesses! When all the time, God intended our weakness to be something that we glory in because his Son's power is made perfect in them [2 Corinthians]!
Dear sister, the enemy is trying to trick you into trying to save yourself and getting you to condemn yourself for having feelings that any normal person would have if they'd been through the same thing! So I encourage you to get your eyes off of the things that can been seen, felt, tasted, and touched, and set them on the things that are in Christ, the things that are true of you in Him and He in you! He has redeemed you and He lives his life through you! There is no one that He cannot forgive, so start trusting him to forgive what you may "feel" that you cannot. You will see, and experience, a manifestation of Christ's power through your weakness! He will then get all the glory and you will be blessed beyond measure!
Blessings! Yours in Him,
Craig |
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| May 03, 2009 |
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I was praying about this last night. Had to ask God to help me with two people, and asked Him to forgive me... because I thought I'd forgiven them... ((( thoughts of them broke into my prayer, so I knew I needed help ))) .
In fact.. not a minute goes by that I'm not getting by without the help of my Lord. |
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| May 03, 2009 |
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amen earthenvessel, i really like the way the Lord has blessed you with the ability to communicate. joey, like earthenvessel said, let the Lord have it, it is a matter of releasing them from the debt they owe... the thoughts may continue, but just don't let the enemy trick you into condemning yourself. |
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| May 05, 2009 |
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| Thanks, Gary. |
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