Hi Debbie,

I agree with you 100 percent... thanks for the star also.

1 Corinthians 14 talks about a Church service that allows other members to speak when the whole Church is gathered together (up to 3); and for the congregation to judge what is spoken.

Yet, this model (order of service), is not what we Americans follow, why?

Has the monologue service (only one person allowed to speak), conditioned people to not do anything?  If so, how do we undo that conditioning (if it is part of the problem) and stir our brothers and sisters into action?

Bubbles said, "I would like to take just a second to remind that if we were all hands where would be the hearing?  If we were all ears, where would be the walking? We all have different callings from the Lord."

I have found (from personal experience) that what I do and what I pray about is directly related to what I think about. If the ripping apart of little babies in their mother's wombs (see Silent Scream) doesn't even come up in the Rolodex of my mind then I will not be moved to do anything about it.

It is my opinion and observation that many people who call themselves Christians use this different parts of the body illustration... to do nothing.

This comes to mind also... if we were living in Nazi Germany and our government was imprisoning Jews, but I chose not to think about it, how much would the unction of the Spirit ever point me in that direction?

When that was going on in Germany should I have been thinking about another ministry or could we say that it was the one thing that I should have been thinking about?

Let anyone find something more heinous in America than abortion and I'll take a look at it, but in my opinion it is the number one thing at the Church's door and by and large the Church is silent and will not motivate their congregations to even think of doing anything against it.

As far as, "do we need revival?" Yes!  But not just for new songs and dance moves (happy personal feelings) but to head off the desructive paths of what some Church's are playing with (abortion, pornography and homosexuality). Those are strange bed-fellows for Jesus... but many, many Church's are doing it.

Can you imagine freed Jews of Nazi concentration camps giving an honorary degree to a person who has had much to do with putting their family members to death?

Should we ignore the differences of others when they go against the God we say we love because we want their popularity to make our ceremony a bigger event?

While Obama considers appointing a pro-choice pro-homosexual Judge to the supreme court we should not have a hard time figuring out which way the laws will be moving. Do you think they will be moving on the side of God or away from Him?  If away from Him, then is Obama a friend or foe of God's?

Godly Prophets always said things that were true. But most people heard those things as harsh and unloving.

and Bubbles... I'll be the first to admit, I do get a little hot under the collar when I try to say to the Church, "let's move against abortion" and another well meaning Christian grabs another microphone and say's, "let's not all get on board with that, there are plenty of other things to do."

You cannot find anything in America more heinous than abortion.  Helping kids and single parents is good but saving the lives of 4,000 a day is better.

That's the number of children who are torn apart in their mother's wombs everyday in America. It is the greater need that the Church needs to come together on and stop.

Doing one without the other (when the other is greater), is heinous.

I feel the unction to add this: 

Pornography (and all things related), should be a crime.

To film and promote any of that (in any way shape or form), is against God.  

So hey... Church member, student or faculty person (of Notre Dame and elsewhere)... Hugh Hefner is an advocate of the devil, he is not a friend of Jesus Christ and neither is Obama. They are cut from the same cloth (filthy rag).

There is a lot of leven (strange bed-fellows) in the people who say they love God.

Abortion is not ok.
Pronography is not ok.
Homosexuality is not ok.

Turn to the Lord and expect Him to give you wisdom and strength to give up these things. Reckon yourselves to be dead unto sin (Rom.6:11), rely on God to back up His Word and it will come to pass.

Bubbles... please consider this, Jesus said some will receive greater condemnation. Some will receive more stripes. Jesus said this person has the greater sin. What do these things mean?

There is an ungodly teaching in the Church today, that all sins are equal and all crimes will be treated the same... but Jesus taught and said something different.

Leaders at Notre Dame will be held more responsible than the janitor at Notre Dame.

Gosh!  How clear is it that the ULTIMATE form of CHILD ABUSE is ABORTION? 

R, we have FOR YEARS been dealing with the same thing...all sin is sin in God's eyes...well, if that WERE the case, why were there differing sacrifices on the OT...?

Almost 30 years ago, a fellow Christian said to me, I oppose abortion but don't agree with Operation Rescue's tactics.  To which I replied, "Then what do YOU suggest?"

Predictably, prayer and intercession!!!

But...faith (in prayer - or anything else for that matter) without corresponding actions is dead!

Perhaps if the church in 1973 was being the salt & light it was supposed to be...we wouldn't have 50+million dead...

We cannot be silent!!!  I applaud Alan Keyes and all the others who stand against the Obamanation...

We're not flying outta here so we'd better get busy and deal with this "bloody" issue...and yeah, it might get UNCOMFORTABLE!!!

And another thing...
Yes, the one-man show has done ALOT to each of us being members of the Body of Christ...Read Pagan Christianity to see just how far removed we are from the NT church!