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| Who is God speaking to in Jeremiah Chapter 1 verse 5? |
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Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sancticified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. WHO IS GOD SPEAKING TO?
I heard someone recently quoting this verse from the book of Jeremiah in relationship to ALL humans. The statement was made that everyone who came into this world no matter how they were conceived is ordained by God, even before the foundations of the world. I kept getting a check in my spirit that this is not so. I could not shake the thought that many babies coming into this world from the time of Adam and Eve's disobedience was born in sin and shaped in iniquity according to the word of the Lord. I also thought that when I read the scriptures, I try to remember that I must not take it out of context. I first ask who was God having a conversation with. God was ONLY speaking to Jeremiah. Next I ask why was God having this conversation with Jeremiah? The answer is Jeremiah was only a child when God came to him and God was giving him the assurance that he called him to speak to the nations and He (God) will be with him.
Many pro-abortionist and (men/women of the cloth) are now taking this verse of scripture to mean that every child born into this world is ordained of God to advocate their cause, and they are very dogmatic in their approach. Well let us read what the Creator has to say. There are many stories in the bible that brings more clarity on this thought.
One of many examples is Abraham and Sarah and I see the (illegitimate), meaning(out of covenant) child Abraham had by the handmaid suffering under the duress of persecution because that was not a covenant God ordained. The war between Isaac and Ishmael still continues even to this very day. See Genesis chapter 17. I also see where not only the child suffered, but I see the handmaid (his birth mother) suffering and generations after him.
Many children are born into this world a product of rape, incest, sperm bank donation, animal copulation, adultery, fornication, two homosexuals marrying and needing to have a child is now "artificially inseminating" sperm from someone they may not even know to have a child, even married couples are "artificialy inseminating sperm from someone outside of their covenant marriage, human trafficking is selling sperm, now they are thinking of cloning humans, etc., The Word of God tells us what is ordained of God and what is not ordained of God. People are now calling good evil and evil good. We must let the bible speak and to let our yes be yes and no be no. In the old testament ALL sexual sin was dealt with immediately by stoning the guilty person to death so that the land will not be polluted.
We are now living in a period of time where because Jesus Christ came and died for all humanity (so that they can turn to Him for their salvation), the Holy Word is now taken out of context and mankind has no fear of God anymore because they believe that the Grace of God will cover all their sins regardless of God's laws and commands. I beg to differ. Sin is still sin and MUST be dealt with by TRUE REPENTANCE! (meaning do not do it again). The person who believes that they can defile their body and the blood of Jesus Christ will just wash away that sexual sin should look around them and see what their sins are doing to their children and children's children for generations. Even after they repent the repercussion of their sins follow them like a trail through their unsaved children. We all MUST STOP LOOK AND LISTEN TO THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD. Father will not allow this mess to continue on this planet. There is an earth shattering that will take place and no one will be exempt of the wrath of God. The rocks will fall on the just and the unjust.
After reading the entire bible and comparing it to what is going on in this world, would you still say that every child coming into this world is ordained of God? If you still do, then ask yourself why did God rid the world of everyone except Noah and his family.
We must let the bible speak and not take the Holy Written Word out of it's context because we will be held accountable for every idle word that we speak Matthew 12/36-37. If we speak the truth instead of speaking words to tickle the ears of the hearers to gain "friends", then they will know right from wrong and will turn to Jesus Christ the author and finisher of everyone's faith for their salvation.
John 3/3-8. Only those who are born-again will enter into the kingdom of heaven regardless of how they came into this world.
Father, please watch over Your Words to perform it to completion in the precious name of Jesus Christ, Amen. Please feel free to comment in love.
Shalom to all my friends
Sister Marcia
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| To add a comment to "Who is God speaking to in Jeremiah Chapter 1 verse 5?" |
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| June 08, 2009 |
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"Father will not allow this mess to continue on this planet. Only those who are born-again will enter into the kingdom of heaven regardless of how they came into this world. People are now calling good evil and evil good." by: Sister Marcia
Amen to your blog, Marcia! Many powerful statements! |
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| June 08, 2009 |
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I use that Scripture to promote the pro-life thing, but only in the context of the fact that God had set Jeremiah apart from the womb when he was a so-called "fetus". Psalm 139 also of course, says that He knew us before we were in our mother's womb. Not everyone has a prophetic gifting. The Spirit distributes as HE wills. |
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| June 08, 2009 |
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| Thank you gojolly63 for acknowledging as thus says the Lord. |
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| June 08, 2009 |
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Lara, Thank you for your comment. I like the fact that you give your input to these blogs, which tells me that you are seeking truth. I looked at psalm 139 and again I must ask the question who made the statement and why? Also is it applicable to me or everyone who comes into this world regardless of the circumstances in which they were born? Is it an across the board statement that I must tell everyone as a message from God just so that they will not abort? Am I speaking the truth? I still say I must let the bible speak.. God is listening and His Word tells me that we will all be judged by every idle word that we speak. Matthew 12/36. I will try to let my yea be yea (yes says the Lord) and nay be nay (No God did not say that) because Jesus said that anything else comes out of an evil heart. I have to always check my heart. (smile)
I believe there is a better way to handle the pro-ife issue and that is to tell everyone to repent of their wicked ways or else they will reap what they sow and that is what the Word of God came here to do. That is what Jesus expects His deciples to do. Those who believe five signs will follow them and those who do not believe will be damned. Mark 16. This is what Jesus said.
I do not believe that we must take verses of scripture out of context to tickle the ears of the hearers just to gain friends.
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| June 08, 2009 |
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Jeremiah! (Special divine call of God!)
Blessings In Him... :o)
Herman |
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| June 08, 2009 |
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| June 09, 2009 |
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| Yvelisse, thank you for acknowledging this blog my friend. TMatthew 5/6 Blessed are they who hunger and thirst after righteousness for they shall be filled. |
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| June 09, 2009 |
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| There is certainly a context to be aware of here, sister. I see context as well in Jer. 29:11, and many others. Often though, even when interpreted correctly within context, certain universal principals apply. Do we really believe Jeremiah the prophet is the only person God ever knew before forming him in his mother's womb? Do we believe prophets or special servants are the only ones God knows before their conception? I think there might be a general principal here, that God who is all knowing, knows all of us before we were born, knows how we will (or will not) be sanctified in life, granted we will not all be ordained as prophets. Thanks for making us think, Marcia. |
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| June 09, 2009 |
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| June 09, 2009 |
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My friend shofar girl
Well spoken! both the sinner and the one sinned against must be washed in the precious blood of Jesus Christ for the curses to be lifted off their lives as thus says the Lord.
Jesus is the answer to this world but people keep rejecting Him and have formed their own doctrine. That is why so many people are on drugs (prescribed and illegal). People are trying to quench the Spirit of conviction which is sent to bring repentance (a turning away from wrongdoing). God only watches over His Word. The entire bible is full of blessing and curses put here by God. All we need do is make the choice to do what is right by Him and He will lift the curses.
Jesus stated in Matthew 12/49 Behold my mother and my brethren! verse 50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother and sister and mother. This summarizes it.
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| June 09, 2009 |
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Hello my friend Herman
Thank you for your input.
Shalom to you my friend |
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| June 09, 2009 |
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Hello my friend Mike
Thank you for your input. Yes! Father knows the beginning from the end of all things and that is why we must not take scripture out of context and feed it to the masses. Jesus Christ must be lifted up. I believe if I do not point all to Jesus Christ, my mission (the co-mission) will not be fulfilled. The fact is that many are frustrated about the abortion issue and right now and it is out of control that is why people are killing the abortionist. Many are using different tatics to stop the abortions and are frustrated that their tatics are not working. When we get to know Jesus Christ He will reveal the truth to us and we will not want to commit ANY sin against Him or others.
I say lift up Jesus and He will draw all of mankind unto Himself. Alleluia! |
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| June 09, 2009 |
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| I've never thought of it as taking Scriptures out of context. Myself, the scriptures prove when "life" truly begins. Like John the Baptist. He heard the voice of Mary and lept in Elizabeth's womb, and he was 6 months in the womb at that point. He was also filled with the Holy Ghost from the womb. The Apostle Paul says he was set apart from his mother's womb to minister the Gospel [to the Gentiles}. Jeremiah, same thing. From the womb. King David was set apart, and he was also prophetic and to say that the Lord knows us {those appointed for salvation} makes perfect sense. You get what I'm saying? I took a post-abortion Bible study called "forgiven and set free" which included some of those verses. To me it's just saying, when does GOD say life begins? |
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| June 09, 2009 |
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Hello my friend Lara
We are not talking about when life begins, or who was appointed prophet etc., from their mother's womb.
The blog is about telling people that God ordained and blessed every child even before they were born regardless of what means were used and using Jeremiah's story to do so which is wrong. Would you be speaking truth if you take my testimony and make it yours? I am sure you will say absolutely not! Well the same goes for the stories in the bible. Each person has their own testimony of what God does with their life. Would you say that a child born into this world by animal copulation or any of the above examples is God ordained? I gave examples of Abraham and Sarah's story to demonstrate that not every child is ordained by God. and to take Paul's story or anyone's story to tell people otherwise is biblically incorrect and takes the scripture out of context. It is calling good evil and evil good.
Again, we all know life begins in the womb and that is why we should tell everyone to make their decision sure because everyone will reap what they sow especially after knowing the truth.
Again, Jesus Christ is the author and finisher of everyone's faith and salvation and He alone must be lifted up and when that is done, He will draw all those who are seeking him unto himself. The problem in the world today is people are not telling others to repent. I pray that I have brought more clarity on this topic for you and others. Please feel free to respond with any more thoughts
Shalom to you my friend |
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| June 09, 2009 |
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| Man, I need to sleep more, or something! LOL Of course, God has used mightily children who've come about from rape, etc. But yeah, I get what you're saying now! :) Pardon my misunderstanding. It happens. lol |
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| June 09, 2009 |
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I had to jump back on this blog because I just had a brainstorm!
I am thinking of all the pro-lifers who are so dogmatic in their approach to the abortion issue. I applaud you! I too am pro-life. Perhaps it would be a great idea to petition your church administrators and ask them why they have not set up a 24 hour FREE OR LOW COST AFFORDABLE babysitting area in the churches to help the single mothers of these babies they are trying to save? Also, is there a 24 hour food and clothing pantry? How about 24 hour FREE Christian Councelling? If your church do not have this set up, then it is not of Jesus Christ. Find a Church is set up to help the less fortunate. Jesus said he came to set the captives FREE. In the book of acts NO ONE had a lack. There was always food, clothes, jobs for the men, healing of mind soul and body and great Christian Fellowship going on. That is the true Church of Jesus Christ.
People are FED UP with all the "talk" they want to see action of compassion and love that gives freely. They are FED UP with the "PREACHING". That baby is saying if you want me to come into this world, then prepare a good place for me where I will be loved and protected. Will you take care of me or will you leave me to take care of myself? I hear the cries of the little innocent ones from the depth of my soul. If anyone know of a church or building where I can donate time, talent and whatever is needed, please contact me at (marcia_balthazar@hotmail.com), If you know anyone who has a building where I can set up a food, clothing pantry, a Babysitting Center and Christian Counseling Center in the Orlando, Florida area, please contact me. I am open to all suggestions. If you really care about the children, please do something to let the Government know that you really care by opening your Church doors 24/7 for the people you claim to love so much.
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| June 10, 2009 |
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| That's a really fanastic idea!!!! Kinda like "put your $$ where your mouth is!" |
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| June 10, 2009 |
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Lara you got the message!.. We have to stop playing church and be church. Then and only then signs, wonders and miracles will follow the true Christians. Love in ACTION will draw all men unto Jesus Christ.
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| June 15, 2009 |
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HELLOOOOOOO
I have not heard from anyone on this issue. Well, Lara, I suppose they are still playing church. |
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