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23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte; and when he is become so, ye make him twofold more a Son{Daughter} of Hell than yourselves. Our Savior Jesus Christ said many, much harsher things to the scribes (some bloggers)? and Pharisees and Openly Practicing Sinners, in particular. He probably had never seen them in the flesh. He told us to Reprove and Rebuke them also! The Ministers who are actually, truly among their ranks now {2009} {same crowd} will not, cannot, reprove and rebuke. (Do a Bible keyword search for reprove/rebuke). They will not, cannot, because they are among them, joined at the hip with them, practicing Sin with them. They want a pitiful little 'casper milktoast' tap on the wrist, so, that is all they are willing to do to others in their clubs. To enable a fellow Human to Sin is to Hate that Person. Do You call that Love? To enable them in their Sin? Please, beware of these of the 'Synagogues (Churches) of satan'. They are ushering the innocent into Hell, Fire, and Brimstone, Eternal Torment and Damnation, with them. They are making them Twice The Child of Hell That They Are. God Help us!!!
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| July 05, 2009 |
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When a woman who had lived a sinful life in that town learned that Jesus was eating at the Pharisee's house, she brought an alabaster jar of perfume, and as she stood behind him at his feet weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears. Then she wiped them with her hair, kissed them and poured perfume on them. Ken, your appetite for holiness is inspiring! However, I doubt that public reproving/rebuking is always the best first option. In the passage above (from Luke 7), I doubt Jesus gained the sinful woman's affections by publicly humiliating her. Perhaps it was his mercy and compassion? Just a thought bro....God bless! |
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Yes Mike~Balance is key to much of the operation of this universe. I believe 1. compromise and 2. balance are two very different conditions. Jesus would tell those to whom he gave forgiveness, "Go and Sin No More". Jesus would never compromise with Sin because of the cruel consequences of Sin. By-the-way Mike, I so much appreciated Your blog entitled 'My Gay Friend'. I saw there 'balance' without 'compromise'. I percieved in my Spirit absolute confidence that You were being led by The Holy Spirit in Your dealings with this Individual. Thank You Mike for Your quest for Peace among the Family of Faith! 'Blessed are the Peacemakers, for They Shall be called The Children of God'. |
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Addendum to Mike (sorry, i just didn't think about it at first). I so much agree that we are never to humiliate anyone, Never. There does come a time, though, to take care of business like Jesus did: 'And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;..' John 2:15 MyChurch.Org is, to me, a type of Temple of Our Lord Jesus. If those come to sell a "compromise with Sin" bill of goods...then it's time to 'overthrow their tables'. Especially, and for the sake of, the Babes in Chirst who are learning of Jesus on this site. |
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[star!] | Ken i do so appreciate your fire, God has tamed mine and helped me to understand the purpose for the spirit of discernment and how important it is to FOLLOW AFTER THE SPIRIT AND NOT AFTER FLESH, allow God to tame that burning inferno and you will never have to apologize again, unless you get out of His order. Continue to fight the good fight of faith. |
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Hi Sheree! Well, I need Your help. I believe Our Savior has me agreeing to listen to what You have to say. The release is there for me. Will You say what You just said (wrote) in another way for me? I need more simplicity and 'just break it down' a little more for me. Christ Jesus Bless and Keep You....... {Bro-ken} |
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| July 05, 2009 |
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| To enable a fellow Human to Sin is to Hate that Person. Do You call that Love? To enable them in their Sin? Hey dear friend, and Man of God. I am not understanding what this means. Please, do not feel singled out,... There are many things I do not know,... hehe. I have tried to find this in my limited resource and cannot. As General Patton always said,... "many tanks". |
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| July 05, 2009 |
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| ..........um................Sir....... Do you need a hug? |
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| July 05, 2009 |
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| I send you hugs!... sorry if you didnt want one.... |
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| July 06, 2009 |
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Hi Preston~http://www.mychurch.org/protect If I do not reprove and rebuke someone who is practicing a damnable sin, then I am enabeling, supporting and helping that person to feel good about and practice their sin. Some of these people are innocent in not knowing they are sinning. If I just smile and say "Oh, it's alright, I love You in Your sin, have a great life", then I don't really love them...I must hate them, because I am supporting them in a sin that will take them to Hell, Fire, and, Brimstone. |
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| July 06, 2009 |
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Dear Precious and Beloved EmNoelTheValicalious~http://www.mychurch.org/emilyness My therapeutic hug quota is at least seven per day. Your's came right on time. How fantastic it was as You and Christ Jesus hugged me simultaneously! I found Your comment to be uplifting and entertaining at a very serious level. So, Dear Emily, Peace and Grace to You and All who You Love. Please write again real soon.......{Bro-ken} |
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| July 06, 2009 |
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good afternoon Ken, i didn't hear anymore from you i pray that i gave some clarity on yesterday |
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| July 06, 2009 |
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I think it is important to "Hate the sin not the sinner" Sorry but that is what I have learned |
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Ken, thanks for explaining further. I was racking both of my brain cells on the rebuking issue. Because we do rebuke demons with a "casting away" kind of authority. (because they are 1: creatures, and 2: not allowed to return to be good ever again). Now I see you are talking about rebuking sin, which is NOT a casting away of anything. For, rebuking sin from someone is impossible... Amen? I think what you refer to here is like:
1 Timothy 5:1
Do not sharply censure or rebuke an older man, but entreat and plead with him as [you would with] a father. Treat younger men like brothers;
James 2:9
But if you show servile regard (prejudice, favoritism) for people, you commit sin and are rebuked and convicted by the Law as violators and offenders.
I think I am clearer now,... I would only piggy-back Mikes comment, by adding the "whole-picture process" Helping turn people around is rebuking, teaching, leading by example, fellowship and even worshiping together.
Colossians 3:16
Let the word [spoken by] Christ (the Messiah) have its home [in your hearts and minds] and dwell in you in [all its] richness, as you teach and admonish and train one another in all insight and intelligence and wisdom [in spiritual things, and as you sing] psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, making melody to God with [His] grace in your hearts.
Of course, I refer only to the correction of "saved".... because apart from Christ it's gonna take something like 2 Peter 2:16 describes,...
But he was rebuked for his own transgression when a dumb beast of burden spoke with human voice and checked the prophet's madness.
hehe,.. alright, Love you Ken. |
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Can someone show me where anyone advocated "hating the sinner"? I keep reading over and over...we are to hate the sin, not the sinner... It seems to me, many up here consider hate to be blogging Scripture...or making a "Ziploc bag" comment...sigh
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Well, so far I haven't called anybody 'satan' (speaking to satan in them). On second thought, Maybe one certain person in my city. I haven't gained that much courage yet. Jesus did, though! Jesus was speaking with a Friend of His, a dear, precious Brother (Member of The Body of Christ?) Oh, Jesus really did rebuke His tender believing Friend! Then After Jesus rebuked His precious friend, He spoke to satan who was using this Friend of Jesus. Our Lord, God and Savior rebuked His Own Apostle Peter. One of His close group of Disciples. How could Our Tender, Loving, Soft spoken, Warm and Fuzzy Feeling Lord God of Hosts do such a 'Hating' thing? Well, Peter was allowing satan to use him. Maybe, this is the litmus test and our example to follow. Do You know anyone who is letting satan use them? Will You follow Christ Jesus' example? Mark 8:33 But when He had turned about and looked on His disciples, He rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind Me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men. |
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| The importance of following after the Spirit and not flesh, if you truly love someone you will give your life for them even if that means going to hell to get them Christ did and i have yet to read that Christ loved us, it says God loved us and Christ loved God, and He loved Him enough to die for sinners such as us and even those who won't ever except Him or those who knew Him and walked away vowing to never return that is real love, i ask would you give your life for me? |
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