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I was at school today when I guess there were some comments made on Bubba's blog. I didn't get to see them, since Bubba seems to be gone now with his blogs. But since I was a part of the ministry at one time I would like to say some things. First, anyone who read Bubba's blog about the ministry being over and done with, found out the same way I did. This was how a man who could call me 6 times a day and even during my granddaughter's birthday party chose to let me know. When I messaged him if that was the right way to treat someone, he tried telling me that I knew the ministry was over (geeee, I guess that's why I posted a blog at HIS request two days prior about the CD's and the ministry)and then the excuse became that he called me three times. Well, that ended me conversing with him at all. Why? Because he had all three of our phone #'s and every phone either has caller ID or it shows missed calls......there were none :( Within a week, the ministry was back....hmmmm. Did anyone on here notice that it was minus Cindy?????? NOT only was the ministry back but with many shows booked......hmmmm. Are you catching on??????? Very few questioned me about what happened? Let's see, I'd been on here close to a year at the time, and he'd been on here a month. Quite honestly, that hurt. I'll just say that I feel like we were all taken, our discernment was down. I also feel guilty and have been told I should have no guilt. What is my feeling of guilt? If it were just me hurt in all this....it would be nothing. I've been hurt before and I'm still going, always relying on God to take care of those who use me or whatever. And He does. But, I was part of that ministry, and other people getting hurt kills me. I understand I wasn't the one who did wrong....but still it hurts me. To Steve if you read this: How you did me as a manager was not the godly way to do a sister in Christ, but I forgive you. If there is some reason you couldn't get the CD's out to the people, then PLEASE let them know, they are very understanding people. If you never intended to send those CD's out, then I leave you in God's hands and I pray for you. |
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[star!] | I sent a donation for a CD because he was a brother on here. I know others who gave much more than my twenty bucks beyond the CD and I have dropped twenty bucks on a pizza that just made me fat, so I am not losing sleep over any money lost.
I am however concerned about Steve as I am sure he knows Christ and more than likely fell away. YOU Cindylou are a victim not to be blamed. I remember your zeal and joy over this as a ministry and we are to be wise as serpents and gentle as doves.
Hold your head up and continue to pray for him. We all need to. I don't care about the CD but he is a hurting man to have done this without explanation. Something happened to him. I remember his testimony about his granddaughter.
I don't know but God does and I will continue to pray for Steve.
Much love to you sister. Much love to you. juanita mae
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| Juanita Mae: Amen and amen. Thank you so much for the kind words. I do pray for Steve. I believe that even if done wrong, we need to forgive and pray for the person. I've spent a couple of months now asking God what He wanted me to learn from this and He's shown me. Love you much! |
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| I pray for Steve too but i also pray for those who fell victim to the scam.....He needs to refund the money he has taken and failed to deliver on. Esp the way he took advantage of Lara..a sweet gal already hurt enought...LY in Christ! PC |
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| Pastor Chuck : I do believe IF Steve did this as a scam, God will take care of it. If it wasn't, he has a chance to fix this with the people on here. God bless and love ya! |
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Bless you, CindyLou... It's interesting how far-reaching his ministry could have been if he had not given in to whatever it was that caused him to act this way. He certainly would have had a great fan base here at MC. |
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God can restore any money lost. The warning of being wise as serpents means that we can be duped if we are not.
I read my comment and I don't know what I was gonna say when I said I would and it got cut off, lol. I am fuzzy tonight. I have been watching that youtube video Stu put up and crying my eyeballs out. I have not sobbed like this in a long while. Stu always gets me with music choices he puts out there. lol.
I don't know if it was intended to be a scam but bottom line is that if it was, he is in trouble with God. If he is a brother, truly a brother gone awry, then I believe in restoration. Repentance.
Let's not get sidetracked by this, but keep our wits and hearts toward Christ. Lots of us have hurts we bear and bore and will bear again.
Let's have a laugh on old satan and pray Steve to restoration and repentance if he messed up and a ministry that will bring in souls to our Jesus. Steve HAS the talent, no doubt. Let's praise the enemy out of the way and pray that God reveals. I love you guys, and Steve, if you find a way to see what is up on here via a different name or whatever, I would guess that CindyLou's blog is where you will check out what is going on.
Give the devil his dose and do the Godly thing. If you want to talk to me privately, you know how to message me and say so. No hard feelings. Let's just put the enemy in his place. love and hugs juanita mae |
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| Some church members who loudly sing, “Standing on the Promises,” are just sitting on the premises.
People physically move to another area or they change email addresses. If they don't tell me, then I lose them as a subscriber. I feel badly every time I lose someone that way, and it happens a lot. The only way I have of replacing them is if you get a friend to sign up for FREE E-cheer. They can do that at echeersub@gmail.com . The only question we ask is “What is your email address?”
If you peruse the Internet at all, you are well aware that “Signup” is a common feature of many websites. Someone is always trying to get you to signup, and they often want too much information.
When you became a Christian, you signed up for a lifetime commitment to serve Jesus Christ. Unfortunately some fall by the wayside, but by and large, folks remain committed.
1 Timothy 3:9 is a good explanation of our signup for Christ. It says, “They must be committed to the revealed truths of the Christian faith and must live with a clear conscience.” That clear conscience part can be a tough one.
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I noticed after reading your blog that Steve's profile is gone - "poof" vanished ~~~ it was there yesterday and he was showing still on my friends list.
It truly disturbs me that he left the way he did ~ Yes I gave him money twice - yet Ive been unemployed since last September and my unemployment ended in May.
I posted a few weeks ago (my status) asking if anyone had gotten their CD - the one's that weren't ashamed to contact me indicated NO they had not. My husband asked me if anyone had and that was my only way of finding out. He had the paypal account when the money was sent to Steve. My husband uses Quick Books and the items had shown up and will again next year when we pull all to file our taxes. It's obvious Steve was operating under a "ministry" so the receipts for our donations were filed as such.
I am sorry you got caught up in his escapades but it is what it is. The words I have sent above this are from a blog that I had just gotten and amazingly it came right after I read your blog _ We All Got It ~~
I am very disappointed in his disappearing and falling off the face of the earth. God knows the truth so that is all that is needed to know.
Incidences like this will continue in the form of deceit, etc. in life no matter what. We have no control.
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| GrammyB: Thanks and we know that God can turn things around in a wink of an eye;) |
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| Juanita: AMEN and AMEN! |
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| Lynne: I really don't think anyone was ashamed to contact you, they probably didn't see your post. God will handle everything :) |
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Wow, Cindy I had no idea what all was going on in the background. I just haven't had as much time to be on here lately and I missed all of what happened on Bubba's blogs today. I am so sorry for the hurt you went through and I'm praying for you sister. All I can say for myself at this point is to pray for him and forget about the money. God knows where my heart was when I gave and I believe he honors that, regardless of the intentions of the recepient. |
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Craftsreen: I couldn't have said it better myself and EVERYONE should take your comment to heart! All I can say for myself at this point is to pray for him and forget about the money. God knows where my heart was when I gave and I believe he honors that, regardless of the intentions of the recepient. |
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Let me say another thing....there is no true loss in Christ for us...no true loss. God is a God of restoration. He restores what the cankerworm and palmerworm has eaten (that is bible but don't remember where, I think Joel).
I have been playing the you tube video New Again. Even if it didn't have the same meaning to you that it holds for me with my son's death, if you go and watch it, as it has Passion scenes, and there are words that say basically NOT to pay attention to what things look like...because He had a plan all along and it looked bad to Mary and his followers, they didn't understand. We don't understand why things happen. Perhaps God allowed this to happen to Steve because when he is done with his son (Steve) he will be purified. We all go through purification, right? I don't even want to say outloud all the things God has brought me out of.
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| Juanita: Amen, Christ says "Peace be still "......and the wind and the waves obey :) |
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[star!] | Well CindyLou my red crayon friend...I am truly...truly blown away...You know I was just chillin...waiting patiently for my CD, which I was so sure was on the way (smile)....I guess we were ALL duped...You know, I think about Steve when I had him on the Voices of Victory Radio Broadcast, and listened to his powerful...and I do mean powerful testimony, and was truly blessed...and still am, with the song..50 Million Angels Cry...Well if the man wasn't sincere on my broadcast, then he just needs to be given *The Best Actor Award for 2009*. For those that didn't get a chance to hear my interview with him, you can do so at http://www.cellecast.com/TheVoicesofVictory and just scroll over to the date..May 6, 2009...It was our Mothers Day Broadcast. Of course GOD alone knows the heart of every man, but the message against abortion that he shared still rings true.
Cindy my dear friend...You hold YOUR head up high..You are not at fault here. I certainly will not lose sleep over the $25.00 that I gave to him because I know what the Word of God says, and I know, without a doubt that *I* shall be compensated for what Steve stole from me.....
6:30 [Men] do not despise a thief, if he steal to satisfy his soul when he is hungry; 6:31 But [if] he be found, he shall restore sevenfold; he shall give all the substance of his house.
See had he been hungry and needed money...I would have given him more and would have done so willing to help a brother....but he STOLE from me and everybody else who gave...God don't take too kindly to that...I ain't mad at him...I'm getting my money back...The Lord shall see to that (smile)....Meanwhile Steve's testimony shall continue to air around the world on the Voices of Victory Radio Broadcast as a witness against him....Love you CindyLou ;o) |
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| Hi. I could tell you many a story, but that becomes sin on my part, me thinks. I'll just say that I love Steve. I don't know the whole story or what's in his heart. I am more than happy to embrace him as a bro again. I think that I need to boot Cindy Lou in the butt for feeling any guilt (LOL), b/c true love believes the best, so what else were any of us to do, right? I would have the whole world hear my testimony about my abortiont to save some babies and save some souls from hell, right? So I don't care where it goes cause it ain't mine anyways. It's God's testimony, right? So I don't feel really anything bad, just sad. Steve was funnier than funny and likeable and I pray that everything is reconciled with all of us and brought to the light. What more can I say? I love ya, Cindy. I certainly don't think you're dense or something for whatever it is that happened or didn't happen. If that's so, we are all a bunch of stupid people. lol But no, we believe the best in each other, as we should. Right? So there you go. |
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[star!] | Not really sure what is going on here but God has a way of bringing the truth into the light... Amen! And we are admonished by the word to pray - so important - Amen! Thanks sister Cindy for your blog and you up-front candor... PTL! I am so sorry for any pain or hurt concerning this... Blessings In Him... :o) Herman |
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Hi Cindy, Great of you to put this out there. Grace is lovely, isn't it?? What an awesome post. |
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All I can say is this. I sent money too. LOL !!!! I responded to Lynne, telling her that I had hopes that Steve would do the right and send the CD's to us.
I asked you about it Cindy... it took me awhile, because I felt bad for you. I still hoped he would do the right thing.
Then Marcella came out with a truth, and I thought, hmmm....
Bubs and I chatted yesterday and to be honest, I told her we should have spanked him. Teasing.
God knows his heart, cause I sure don't. I keep hoping some CD's will show up in my mailbox one day. I may be waiting until I'm 90. Who knows.
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[star!] | I didn't send any money, don't know why, I wanted a cd, but I just didn't feel compelled to order one. My prayers go out to Steve for whatever reason he has for doing this and my prayers go out to the ones who were "scammed" I hate using that word, but right now it seems appropriate. It seems to me that if there was a mix up or if he was having trouble, he would have let his friends know. From what I see, we all are understanding. But the way it's happened, makes you wonder. I ask forgiveness if I'm wrong. Have a good day Mrs. Cindy |
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| Wow, I just checked my friends list and your right, he isn't there. He was and now he's not. I never even knew he left. |
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| MarJay: I do love you and agree with you. I, too, was part of the broadcast and heard his voice and I'm praying for him. |
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| Lara Nell: Amen! Love ya girl! |
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| Evangelist: God bless you! |
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| Mike: Well, for one thing, it helps put things of past in the past ;) I'm reminded of "There, but for the Grace of God, go I". Thanks bro :) |
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| Joey: Forgiveness is the key ;) amen? |
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| Denise: Thanks :) Love ya! |
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| crystal: Praying and forgiveness, amen? Thanks :) |
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| The url ChristianCountry.org Steve used for Pay Pal in May and June when I gave money has >>>> NOTICE: This domain name expired on 06/17/2009 and is pending renewal or deletion Today's offers at GoDaddy.com
christiancountry.org
Just pulled our receipts here and found this out.
FYI: only
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| Lynne Thanks for the info :) |
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| I sent money to help with the ministry but didn't want a CD so haven't been expecting one. I don't know what Steve is going through but I pray that the Lord helps him to get it right. |
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[star!] | Oh ma Who.... I love you! (have not read the comments yet but will go back) You are in NO WAY at fault here and we all do understand that. Don't you take that on yourself. Yes it will take some time to get over because he did work into every area of your life. Into your heart. Which is what makes you such an AWESOME person!! *sigh* *hugs*!!!! |
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| She is great, isn't she? |
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Please let us pray;
Dear heavenly Father, you alone know what is in the heart of mankind. You know where Steve or whatever his name is. I ask that you arrest him and bring him to repentance. I ask that You seer his conscience until he has no choice but to repent and give back what he has stolen or give people the Cd's or whatever they have purchased from him. If he is in difficulty and need Your help, I pray that You humble him so that he must ask for your help and in doing so, I know You will help him.
I ask that you bring healing across this site and give us all strong Holy Spirit discernment and wisdom so that we can truly discern the wolves among the sheep and send out warning before it is too late. I ask this in the name of my precious Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, Amen.
P.S. I did not give Steve any money, but felt led to pray as I saw fit.
Shalom to all my dear friends Sister Marcia |
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| Joyful: I pray the same for him :) |
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| Bub: You're gonna make me cry! Love you lady! |
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| Joey: Thanks sis, I love you! |
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| ihs: Thank you so much for the prayer from your heart! This happening is a chance for all of us here to become more Christlike, to forgive, to pray, to bond together as christians and to learn from it. IF Steve did mean it for bad, then we have the opportunity to turn it to good and use it for God's glory....I know that is a choice that I have made and from what I'm seeing, others are too! |
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Whoo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!! Time to praise God!
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[star!] | God's Peace and Love...CindyLou!!♥ |
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[star!] | Wow, Steve is missing out on the greatest thing he could have ever needed,... Gods' love through all of you. I pray we get him back in here and that he will see this expression of love. You guys are AWESOME. |
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| Joey: Amen and amen........time to praise God not because of who we are but because of WHO HE IS! He's my ROCK, my COMFORTER, my PROVIDER, my MASTER, my FRIEND, my ALL in ALL!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO.......what can man do to me? :) hehehehehehe love it! |
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| Ima: thank you and love ya! |
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| Bub: There may be storms in the family of God, but God brings the SONSHINE if we allow it ;) |
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| Preston: If I ever impart on anyone what God is to me, I do hope they see that it's unconditional love. :) |
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Yesterday I just kept thinking about Steve and had much sorrow in my heart for some reason and meant to go check on his blogs and got distracted every time. I believe that he is dealing with something that is troubling his mind very deeply and he needs our prayers. I should have checked his page when I got the "nudge". This is just another lesson for me to keep my mind focused on what is on Father's agenda.
Father, I repent of my disobedience before all, because You said we should confess our faults before men and you will forgive our sins, and I know that you have forgiven me and now I rest assured that You will turn all things around and make it work together for the good of everyone concerned, in the name of my sweet Saviour, Jesus Christ, I know it is done Amen. I love you Father. |
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| I believe that about you Cindy,... I was, both sad for what happened and touched by the Faithfull attitude. And with the beautiful song of comments following,... I was blessed. |
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Oh yeah... come on people, now clap your hands together!!!! Thank you, Jesus!! |
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Don't worry, be happy.................{sing it now} Woooohoooooooooohhoooooooowohoooooo wooohooohoooo wooohoooohooo Be happy now {I'm smilin from ear to ear} O the love!!!!!!!! |
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I am giggling now. I am thinking that perhaps this is a test for US in how we handle a brother that seems to have messed up. I say seems because we don't know what happened. Anyway, what would get us angry...what do we do with that anger....what does God want us to learn from it and finally....if we want to be forgiven....lol, it is soooooooooo easy. Group Hug!!!!!! |
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Cindy Lou we all love you and you were the one dubbed. If Steve were the man he should be he would refund the money and make a public apology.....also read the story of what happened to Annaias and Saphara in the book of Acts. It is a danerous thing to be dishonest with God and abuse others like wolves in sheep's clothing. He dubbed me too along with a lot of others and he will Pay for what he had done one way or another. Shame Steve and your Chalottan ministry!!!!!!!!!!PC |
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((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( MC Family)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) If God be for us, who can be against us???? Who can separate us from HIS mighty love????? Ok, JOEY, you are in big doo doo, Tank saw this and he does not like cats and he said it's discrimination because you have NO dancing dogs...... |
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| ihs: Your heart is awesome, just awesome! |
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| Preston: These comments are lifting my heart! This is what love is about :) |
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| Rebel: It was a sad situation, but ya know what? We're not gonna let satan win, no sir, we're gonna be used by God in this for good! amen? |
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| Juanita: Amen, HE, the author and the finisher is turning our sorrow into dance!!!!!! |
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| Pastor Chuck: Yes, you too were involved, because I was in corresponse with you about us coming to your church, I am sorry :( But, ya know what???? Had it not been for that correspondence over the ministry, I might not have gotten to know what a godly man you are nor had the chance to be your friend! God is good and I thank him for allowing us to connect :) |
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| GrammyB: So ARE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! |
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[star!] | I thought Steve was just taking a break. WOW. God help us all. I mess up too. |
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| Destiny: We all mess up :( |
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[star!] | Well, what shall we say to these things? All day long we are counted as sheep for the slaughter, but nay in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him that loved us. We all if we have been around church people/Christians long enough we will be hurt by those we love and admire and yes even support financially. I can say Steve was talented but, one thing I have discovered is that what goes around comes around and we reap what we sow. God is the avenger and the righteous judge and if any were wronged and stolen from remember if the theif be found he has to repay 7 times so look for your blessing. CIndy, it hurts, but remember know that your labor for God is not in vain. He saw what you did and saw how you promoted your brother and how you worked dilligently for God and not for Steve so I say if I am allowed to , to leave it with God and be blessed knowing that you served the Lord well. God Bless....I guess I was lucky cause I can't take southern gospel music. |
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| Bro Todd: Very wise words from a man I consider very wise :) I left it with God and I pray for Steve. And I see alot of people on here are the same way which shows me alot about them. |
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Victory in Jesus, my Saviour forever!
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[star!] | Love ya, CindyLou. Praising the Lord that He did not allow this to go on for too long. God bless you, dear heart. |
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See... and everyone was afraid to say something! THIS is why we are told to live in one accord. To build each other up. To share our lives with each-other. God's plan works |
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| Yvelisse: Thanks so much for stopping by, yes, HE never let's us down :) |
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| panda: I love you too lady! |
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| Bub: God's plan always works :) |
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| I hope you GOT my message. Don't know if it went through. And by the way, WootWooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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[star!] | Stacey call me a minute ago about steve and told me about this because I am not on line, (just to much to do and going on right now). I also purchased a CD from him. You are right Cindy, if he used this Christian Web Site as a scam, he is in God's hands and we need to pray for him. Cindy you have a heart of Gold and you trusted. One thing I know for sure is that what you do in the dark, God will bring to the light and that's what he did, exposed Steve. |
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| July 10, 2009 |
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| Has any checked to see if he is on facebook? |
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| July 10, 2009 |
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| crystal: got your message, loved it!!!!! ROTFLOL |
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| July 10, 2009 |
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| Terry: I'm so sorry that you, too, didn't get your CD. We'll just pray, through this thing God gave us a mission, ya know? Love ya! |
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| July 10, 2009 |
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| Praying for Steve .... Its a big problem that happens everyday online. Sad. ((((((((((((((((Cindy))))))))))))))))))))))) |
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| July 10, 2009 |
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| Donna: Thanks sis, prayers are greatly needed! Love ya! |
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| July 13, 2009 |
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| charlatan ??? I haven't heard that in 40 years, Pastor Chuck. |
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| July 15, 2009 |
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| I had really forgot about him being here until my sister told me a week or so that he just simply disappeared, and then basiclly that everyone here had been duped. I know it happens even in Church's. It did mine 2 yrs ago. Several who needed help came in and began visiting. They joined about 3 weeks later and then began asking for clothes, food, money, transportation to appts. They got everything they asked for. Shortly after they just disappeared as quickly as they came in. We keep them in prayer but yes many hearts were broken. All we can do is ask God to watch over them and trusts that their hearts will be in the right place one day and that when they accepted his eternal love that it was not a show, and that they truly meant it. I did not order any CD's but feel for those who did. He will stand before God one day and he knows that. Thanks Cindy for all you do and for being here. Blessings. |
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| July 16, 2009 |
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| mom: Yes, it does happen everywhere, sadly enough :( And all we can do is pray. Thanks for your encouragement, God bless you! |
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| July 16, 2009 |
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| ihs: Thanks for the link, I'll check it out now, God bless! |
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| July 19, 2009 |
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| When we were baby Christians,we were taken for a fairly large amount of money.It happened the year my husband quit teaching and decided to go into farming.We had 3 children under 5,a farmhouse fallen into serious disrepair and little money coming in.I knew the guy wasn't to be trusted,and doubted his confession of faith, but the Bible says to give to him who asks,so we did. We even borrowed to help his business out.It was a valuable lesson for God did restore to us every penny that was taken from us through an unexpected source.I still wonder where this poor soul went and if he ever found Jesus in a real way.I guess the lesson is to love the way God loves us----unconditionally.We cause Him much hurt,let Him down,use and abuse His wonderful grace. One has to release these people by forgiving them and let the Spirit do His work. |
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| July 19, 2009 |
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| Praying for this situation. I never give out money to those I don't trust. |
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| July 19, 2009 |
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| July 19, 2009 |
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| Pat: Yes, we do have to forgive and allow the Spirit to work :) God bless you! |
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| July 19, 2009 |
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| Megan: Thanks for praying :) |
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