Thank You Gary Robison ~
It does take strength and courage to comment here.  I know You have both.  You use so much of what has been given You.
By-the-way, I need to clarify that The Church of Jesus Christ of The Latter Day Saints (Mormons), say that Jesus Christ is the Brother of satan.

I am a baptized Mormon, don't follow their teachings, after being ordained as an Elder at 14, I started questioning some of their teachings, and could not get a biblical answer. I was raised in the Mormon Church, off and on until I was 24. Have been baptized about 15 or 20 different times, each time we would join a different church as a child, we were told we had to be baptized into their church in order to join. (Protestant Churches... ie Methodist, Baptist,Church of God,ect.)

So I am quite familiar with their teachings.

I have to say though, their teachings on family and the church taking care of their own, is the closest I have ever seen to New Testament teaching..

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Courage I have, so comment I will! Angel worshipers, oh dear. Mustn't have any of that! No, Michael is not Jesus nor vice versa. Thanks for the warning Ken.

Mike n Laura ~
Some of the most concise and clear teachings I have received came from MyChurch and...Absolutely from the links  Mike n Laura  led me to.  I don't know where You so quickly come up with these links, but they are Awesome.  What comes next?  A gracious "THANK YOU".......{Bro-ken} 

Now know this, the body of Christ is not limited to Christians only, as man supposes to limit God; but constitutes the entire human race for whom atonement was made; even as you were told in 1 John 2: 2, Jesus Christ is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours (Christians) only, but also for the sins of the whole world. Therefore he that says he is in the light (enlightened: Christian), yet he hates his brother (a non-Christian), is in darkness even until now; and he that is in darkness knows not where he is going.

And if you suppose that one or more of God's creatures, as precious as each one is, shall be condemned to eternal hell, then you know not the source of your being, neither do you understand his righteousness. I implore you then to discern this word spoken in Jesus to the Pharisees in Matthew 21: 31: I assure you this, The publicans and the harlots (which the self-righteous condemn as sinners) go into the kingdom of God before you. For which God said to you in Isaiah 65: 5, They provoke me to anger continually to my face, which say to their brother, Keep your distance, do not come near me: for I am holier than you.

I totally Agree with You  Lara Leger .  With all of my heart and belief, I know that some Seventh Day Adventist have been also deceived and don't have a clue to what they have gotten themselves into.  My heart goes out to them.  I Love every single  S.D.A.,  every single one, those who know they are of satan and those who do not.  Thank You Lara for reminding me, also, of this great truth.

My beloved Todd:

Jesus himself, while yet flesh, said unto the rich young ruler, Why do you call me good? There is only one who is good, and that is God. And they that worship him worship him in spirit and in truth. Thus Jesus refused to commit himself unto the Jews, as denoted in John 2: 24&25, knowing they would seek to idolize him, instead of offering praise in acknowledgement to the Father who is doing the work through him.

Many profess faith in Christ, but are yet to attain, as they shall come to, the knowledge of the mystery and essence of Christ: thus they go about glorifying flesh over Spirit; referring to Jesus, the man, as God: idolatry. They forget that God, being spirit, cannot die: for he is Life; they forget also that which Paul stated to them in 2nd Corinthians 5: 16, saying, Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh (as Jesus), yet now henceforth know we him no more (having fulfilled the atonement needed for the sins of the world, and entered into glory).

Interesting discussion.

After Jesus' resurrection, while he was still apparently in bodily form, he met the women who discovered the empty tomb. "Greetings," he said. They.. clasped his feet and worshiped him. Apparently this was entirely appropriate behavior on their part, b/c Jesus had no rebuke for them whatsoever. (Matt 28:8-10) "For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form" (Col 2:9). All I know is, Jesus never ceased being full God, even when he lived in human form. Mystery of mysteries how God accomplished that!

Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity, neither confounding the persons, nor dividing the substance.

For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Spirit. But the godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, is all one, the glory equal, the majesty co-eternal.

Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit. The Father uncreated, the Son uncreated, and the Holy Spirit uncreated. The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible, and the Holy Spirit incomprehensible.

The Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Spirit eternal. And yet they are not three eternals, but one Eternal.

As also there are not three incomprehensibles, nor three uncreated, but one Uncreated, and one Incomprehensible. So likewise the Father is Almighty, the Son Almighty, and the Holy Spirit Almighty. And yet they are not three almighties, but one Almighty.

So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. And yet they are not three gods, but one God.

So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Spirit Lord. And yet not three lords, but one Lord.

For as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge each Person by Himself to be both God and Lord, so we are also forbidden by the catholic religion to say that there are three gods or three lords.

The Father is made of none, neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone, not made, nor created, but begotten. The Holy Spirit is of the Father, neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.

So there is one Father, not three fathers; one Son, not three sons; one Holy Spirit, not three holy spirits.

And in the Trinity none is before or after another; none is greater or less than another, but all three Persons are co-eternal together and co-equal. So that in all things, as is aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshipped.

He therefore that will be saved must think thus of the Trinity.

Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation that he also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right faith is, that we believe and confess, that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and man; God, of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and man of the substance of his mother, born in the world; perfect God and perfect man, of a rational soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching His godhead; and inferior to the Father, as touching His manhood; who, although He is God and man, yet he is not two, but one Christ; one, not by conversion of the godhead into flesh but by taking of the manhood into God; one altogether; not by confusion of substance, but by unity of person. For as the rational soul and flesh is one man, so God and man is one Christ; who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, He sits at the right hand of the Father, God Almighty, from whence He will come to judge the quick and the dead. At His coming all men will rise again with their bodies and shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil into everlasting fire.

This is the catholic faith, which except a man believe faithfully, he cannot be saved.

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How do we get into heaven, the kingdom of G-d?

Who does the choosing?

lET THE BIBLE SPEAK FOR ITSELF.

Thank you for this blog brother Ken. Be blessed as you continue in your search for truth.

Dear  THE NICKY JAMES MOVEMENT  I deleted my response to a comment from You after I read it more slowly.  I was in a hurry going to The House of Prayer to work.  Jesus Christ, Our Savior, was Fully God, and at the same time Fully Man.  He is Very God.  Love You in The Lord Brother.

THE NICKY JAMES MOVEMENT I agree with you in part. When Christ died on the cross, He stood as the lamb of atonement, on the day of Atonement, to be the atonement of the world. When He forgave sin, He forgave all sin, He fulfilled the Law, He became the blood sacrifice required by the Law. But when the Hebrew priest's of old had to repeat the atonement each year, Christ died once, for all sin. If not for all sin, then He would have to be sacrificed again.

But as to your other comment, not all will be saved, for if they do not repent (have a contrite heart), and if they do not accept the atonement, either because they never heard, or because they refused to believe, their names are not written in the Lamb's Book of Life. Revelation tells us, that only those whose name are written therein, will be accepted into God's presence, the others will be cast into the lake of fire reserved for Satan and the fallen angels.

As to Christ being God, He told the disciples He was God, when they asked show us the Father, and Christ said, have I been with you so long, and you don't recognize Me.

The LDS teach in later teaching, when one gets into the Elder studies, that Jesus, Satan, and all humans were born from a heavenly mother. That the heavenly Father Himself was likewise born from His heavenly father and mother. And so on and so on. 

That if a believer is good enough, he and his wife will be allowed to have his own planet to be God over, have kids to populate the world.

I have 2 question Vincent,

When I was in Guatemala on a mission trip, there was a group of Indian Catholics there, we watched them walk up a dirt road, carrying a bust of Christ, and when they got to the Shrine, they knelt and prayed and worshiped the bust. Is this what Catholics do? I have never been one, but went to a Catholic Mass once as a kid.

#2 is is this... is praying to a dead saint the same as talking to the dead?  I though the New Testament said when we die, we sleep.

Ok, on the Guatemala issue, I agree.

But my question on talking/praying to saints... if they have already passed over, (are dead) is praying to them the same as talking to the dead?

We can pray through Christ, because He is resurrected.

My beloved Debbie:

Understand the story presented in John 8: 1-11 (especially verse 10); and also spiritually discern Matthew 12: 37 (Galatians 6: 7) as it relates to Job 15: 6 (Luke 10: 29; Job 9: 20). Peace and love are who you are!

I had a visit from the Elders today.... what timing...

I brought up some of the things we discussed here, and of course, when trying to discuss topics like this, they always refer back to the Book of Mormon. when I asked about scriptural references in the KJV Bible, I could not get one, the Elder's are taught to believe that parts of the Bible were taken out, that refer to these issues.

Here is the belief about Christ being "born" ... all being are made out of matter, and because matter has no beginning or ending, but is energy, so too is God and Christ and the rest of us. God did not become God until He started His "forming" of the universe and Christ, then when finished with Christ, He started forming Satan, the other angels, and us out of matter.    This is what the Elders said tonight.

So in their mind, Jesus and Satan and us are all brothers and sisters.

BUT, here is the craw in the hat.... we gotta still love 'em.

Love them so much, we must love them the same way we love ourselves.

Yes  Gary Robison ~
I totally accept that 'craw in the hat' .  The Homosexual Fornicating Sodomite who viciously sexually molested me when I was a Toddler, well, he is now a High Priest (Seventy) in The Mormon Organization.  He is a Relative of mine, which made it Incest.  I have totally forgiven him and offer my love through Jesus Christ (not his Jesus Christ; The Brother of satan Jesus Christ of LDS) to him.......{Bro-ken}

it took me awhile, but I have forgiven my uncle, he is not a high priest though,

Here is something I have been learning:

to forgive, is as if the offense never happened.

Good morning Brother Ken,
 
I just woke up from a dream this morning about children and went to goggle search (Catholics and Sodomy).  It is to my understanding that many young boys were sodomized into different (religious groups). The souls of these children were offered up to Satan by the defiling ACT of SODOMY.  After my goggle search, I was going to write a blog on Sodomy and the first blog I saw was this one. 

What is so sad, is that many of the people who are committing these acts on innocent victims, and continuing to do so and are still being allowed to preach and are still allowed around children in many churches,synogues, or places of worship.  

When I became "born-again" and began to read the scriptures from the King James Bible,  the first question I asked is where did Catholicism come from?  Nothing I was taught from the "priest" is in the scriptures.  They never gave us bibles only prayers in a "catechism book".  We were taught to ask Mary to intercede for us in prayer.  We were taught to kneel before every concrete "saint" and make the sign of the cross. We were taught to pray for the dead souls. We were taught to call a man "father" in reverence to him and his "deity".  We were taught to roll "rosary beads" in our hands and say the "holy mary prayer" after confessing our sins to the priest".  NONE of this is biblical and completely opposes the Deity of Jesus Christ and His teaching.  So, what is not of Christ, is anti-christ. Yet, how many catholics believe they will get into heaven when they die.  Oh, and the lie about purgatory, and when we die we must receive "extreme unction" from the priest. On and on the lies that people believe. I was going along with the program until the Holy Spirit opened my eyes.  Catholics break the first commandement in Exodus chapter 20.. 

I had a vision of the "priest in the dress they call a robe", behind the confessional, which is a "dark booth" with a "veil" which separates them from the individual who is telling them all their "dark secrets".  I also saw the little boys they call "arcolytes" (I may have mis-spelled this word), following them around.  The "priest" of my day drank real wine when serving communion, which they believe is the body and blood of Jesus Christ.  Could you imagine having to stick out young tongue for the priest to put a piece of bread on it?  How gross!  I often wondered if these little boys where sodomized as one of the rites" into priesthood and when I goggle searched, there are many who have come out of that religion and admitted that they were sodomized.  How sick is that!  No wonder many men that I know have problems relating to their wives and children.  The homosexual agenda is growing by leaps and bounds.  The Word of G-d says this is a curse and He will give them up to their reprobate minds.  These people have cursed themselves and are cursing others by their acts of copulation. The ONLY way one can be cleansed from this curse is to be "born-again" and seriously take Jesus Christ at His Word and REPENT (meaning not do it again) and they will be cleansed from ALL past sins. 

HOMOSEXUALITY IS ALL DEMONIC IN NATURE AND A STENCH IN G-D'S NOSTRILS AND THEY TRULY HAVE A REPROBATE MINDSET.  KEEP THEM AWAY FROM YOUR CHILDREN.  Look at how many read and comment on the posts about homosexuality and it will give you an idea of how much attention this sick act is receiving even on myChurch.  I made a comment on Mike's blog you might want to go check.

Blessing to you for turning away from this curse and for exposing the lies behind these religions, brother Ken. 

I have contacted support on this, here is the email address I used if you want to put a note to thell also: be sure to let them know which browser you use, and include the "no suitable nodes"error

helpdesk@mychurch.org

Liz Bell, I have know witches that have shared their ways, and how they conduct their services, and they were blessed with peace and journeying mercies too.

read:

Beloved and True Minister Of Poetry ~
It is so frightening that satan uses mankind's perceived goodness, and, charm, beauty, pleasure and deep loving friendships  to catch Souls away to eternal hell, fire and brimstone.......{Bro-ken}

Ken, what I meant to say, was the Lord blesses us all, whether we believe or not, with fair weather, and rain. He provides safe passage. Look at the Mormons for example, you don't hear about them being run over much, while peddling around on their bikes.

Do you think Satan protects them? Satan destroys, he never protects.

And yes, I too thought she was saying the Lord protected the JW while traveling. 

 3For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.

 4For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.

 5They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.

 6Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.

 7Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.

 8They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.

 9They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.

 10Therefore his people return hither: and waters of a full cup are wrung out to them.

 11And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?

 12Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.

 13Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.

 14For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.

 15If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend against the generation of thy children.

 16When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;

 17Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.

 18Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.

 19How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors.

Ok, on the Guatemala issue, I agree.

But my question on talking/praying to saints... if they have already passed over, (are dead) is praying to them the same as talking to the dead?

We can pray through Christ, because He is resurrected.

My reply: 
Yes, Christ first. 
As for the saints, honestly I've always been puzzled a bit myself because the scripture says they are asleep in their graves until they (we) are called to resurrection and judgment, the apostles creed says we believe in the resurrection of the dead but we are also taught that after death the soul goes to its reward heaven/hell.  So if they (believers) are asleep in their graves then obviously they cannot pray for us because they aren't in heaven.  But, if that's true why do we all say at funerals they've gone to heaven or are in "a better place"?  One or the other is wrong either they are in the grave waiting for the last day or they are in heaven.  On the other hand, if they have gone to heaven then what would stop them from praying on our behalf?

In eschatology we have questions about the last judgment, aka general judgment, and particular judgment, and what resurrection from the dead means for us but that's too big a topic for this bit.

I wish you and I were neighbors and we could sit and rack our brains over these puzzles :) 

Here you go vincent.... Do the dead sleep or go strait to heaven?

Hi  Forgiven !
You know, Your MyChurch Screen Name SAYS IT ALL !  'Forgiven' .   As far as Christianity is concerned, when one Truly receives it, Your Screen Name Says It All.  That Sums It Up!  Thank You For Being Out Front.

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Ken,
Knowledge is power, and God Himself breathed I will not have you ignorant, so it is very important to study to show thy self approved, a workman need not be ashamed RIGHTLY dividing the word of truth, bottom lne if we stop trying to defend what religion we are a part of and speak the truth according to the Word a lot of discussion is not necessary, it is very true that there are those who sit in other religions but they have accepted Christ as thier Lord and Savior, not just Savior but Lord over thier lives where He says don't do we don't do, where He says do we do, no excuses, it is time out for living under the radar, i don't want to be persecuted so i will pretend to be what they want me to be so they will like me, i don't get it, Jesus Loves you and that is enough. stop living your life according to people and live your life according to The Word, and not this sick watered down mess that says it is o-kay, i do understand the love of God but to purpose in your heart that you are going to sin, God himself said don't think that my grace and mercy will laat forever He said He would turn you over to a reprobate mind where you will think that good is evil and evil is good.

Thank You Evangelist Herman Tranter ~
It is an Honored Compliment to receive Ministry and get a Star From You.......{Bro-ken}

My Gratitude to You Sheree ~
I will begin, as You suggested, by reading and 'Studying' Romans, The First Chapter.
ROMANS CHAPTER 1
 ¶ Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:
6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:
7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
8 ¶ First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.
9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;
10 Making request, if by any means now at length I might have a prosperous journey by the will of God to come unto you.
11 For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;
12 That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me.
13 Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles.
14 I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise.
15 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.
16 ¶ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 ¶ Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Thank You Forgiven ~
When reading blogs on MyChurch, I find that many people already Love You.  Your Spirit Just Comes Through in Your Thoughts Which You Present in Your Words.  I Understand Conflict May Come Down The Line As We All Speak The Truth In Love.  Once Again, Thank You, and, Continued Abundant Blessings to You and All Who You Love.