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Interesting stuff after Harvest -- as usual
||August 04, 2007|523 reads
 

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Normally Norm
August 04, 2007

I listen to Greg a lot, and he made an interesting point that it's harder to live the sermon on the mount than it is the 10 commandents (if you're saying that's all you need). 

Jason Arnold
August 04, 2007

I'm not at all making either claim, to be honest.  The guy I was talking to had claimed that he had memorized the Sermon on the Mount (though he couldn't really quote very much of it, and certainly was not demonstrating it), and he also claimed that God had showed him that only through absorbing it through the mind (memorization) and allowing it to totally fill your spirit -- "denying the Ego", as he put it -- would a person really be saved.

And of course, he was the only person he knew of who had done so, so it was kinda a lonely walk for him.  And through all the questions I asked him about the cross and of Christ, never did he ever speak anything resembling what Jesus said about the need to be born again.

IMO, the Sermon on the Mount is merely an expansion and further explanation of practical ways to live out the ten commandments, which as Jesus said of course are summed up in the "big two" -- love God first with everything you have, and love your neighbor as yourself.  I don't know if that makes it harder to live out per se, but it defines more pointedly just what exactly the original ten really entailed.

It's kinda like if I tell you "go cook me a burger", you would probably be able to accomplish that easily since I didn't give a whole lot of specifics about how -- it wouldn't even necessarily have to be edible, for example.  But once I start explaining that by cook I mean medium-well, 170* internal temperature with moderately dark grill-marks the same direction on both sides and just a wee bit of "blackening" along the edges, it might take you a few tries to actually get it just right.

Something that just came to mind is that that is one way you can tell if you're explaining something legalistically or informatively and edifyingly: if the explanation makes it more difficult to do what God has asked you to do, it's probably a legalistic explanation.  But if the explanation makes it clearer and more attainable to do what God has asked, then assuming you're not watering the Word down to do so, it's probably an informative, edifying explanation.

Normally Norm
August 05, 2007

His point was that the 10 commandments was dependent on the act, while the sermon on the mount looks on the heart.  The difference between actually committing a murder and merely thinking about murder.

Or at least that's how I remember the explanation. 

Harvest is more than one day though isn't it?  Did you just go to the one day? 

Jason Arnold
August 05, 2007

Yeah, my wife and I went Friday night...she worked yesterday and today so we weren't able to go more than just the one night.

P.O.D. and Leeland were there last night, and then tonight is the "traditional" Harvest night, with Dennis Agajanian (sp?) and Crystal Lewis...oh yeah, and Toby Mac. lol 

Normally Norm
August 05, 2007

http://www.dennisagajanian.com/

Dennis Agajanian.  I've been meaning to listen to him some more after reading about him in Franklin Graham's book.  Greg has also mentioned him a number of times, and I've seen a bit of him on a video I have.