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GrowingInFaith
August 07, 2007 at 3:07pm

I believe that even in this flawed creation, God has given us things that help us understand Him, things that help us quantify or get a feel for what He is like.

I think that's why we have children - to experience a little bit of what God's love for us must be like.  And, in that parent-child relationship, we often deal with kids who throw a tantrum, and stomp away, and get MAD.

Do we stop loving the kids?  No.  Does it hurt us?  Yep.  If we have to punish them, does it hurt us too?  Yes, it does.  

Imagine how God feels with us!

voice_in_dc
August 07, 2007 at 5:58pm

Deb, great post.

My thoughts...I have pretty much stopped the "please give me" prayers with the exception of one. I offer prayers of thanks all the time. I ask for God to protect my family while I am gone. The only "please give me prayer" that I pray now is "please give me Your understanding of this situation and lead me through it as You want me to."  I wrestled with this for years when I didn't have enough macroni and cheese to make it through the week. I finally said, God, if this is where you want me, give me Your understanding and lead me through it. Well, it changed me forever. My prayers for me are always the same now - good times and bad. I am not saying this is right or wrong. I am just sharing where I am in my walk.

I still intercede for others, for my family, and when God puts someone on my heart, I pray for them, too. I guess those qualify as "give them" prayers.  I guess if we really believe that He is sovereign, then we have to believe He is walking us through the life He wants us to walk.

...like I said, this is probably half-baked, but it is where I am right now.

Once again, thanks for the post.

Sue
August 07, 2007 at 9:38pm
Well first of all, I think this is the best Deb post ever!  Great thoughts here Sister!  I think that we should be honest with God.  He knows our thoughts and hearts anyway.  He also understands our humanity.  Since He Himself came to be one of us.  Although I wouldn't suggest arguing with God, because we always know who the looser will be :)
Deb
August 08, 2007 at 9:52am
GrowingInFaith, I don't have kids, but I can't imagine punishing them without it bothering me, yet knowing it is for their good, they have to be punished.  I think sometimes it might hurt the parent more than the child!  So I can just imagine how God must feel when He has to discipline us.  Thanks for the comments!

DC, The only "please give me prayer" that I pray now is "please give me Your understanding of this situation and lead me through it as You want me to." This is a good thing to pray.  I too have intercessory prayer, and I think that God wants us to come to Him with things like that.  I don't think your ideas are half baked, I think they are good!

Sue, thanks for the compliment!  Sometimes when we argue with God, I think maybe He will give us what we want, even though it might not be the best thing for us, just to teach us a lesson!  The old adage "Be careful of what you wish for" would come in here.  lol 
Steve
August 08, 2007 at 10:10am
I know this is a serious blog and all but I can't help but ask . . .

A "snit" ???  What exactly is a snit?  Is it anything like a "funk"?

I understand what a good "mad" is and I can comprehend angry, disappointed, frustrated, hurt, and upset.  But where does this "snit" thing fit.

If I am sitting at your kitchen table and you are in a "snit" what exactly does it look like?  How do you get in one?  And how do you get out of one? And how long do they last and are they contagious?

Here is my balderdash definition: snit = when an insect flies up your nose and causes a coughing, sneezing, eye watering episode.

Smile God loves you even when you are inhaling insects!!!!!  ;)
Soozanne
August 08, 2007 at 10:24am
snit 
"state of agitation, fit of temper," 1939, Amer.Eng., of unknown origin.

I LOVE dictionaries!

Deb, thank you for taking the time to post this.  One of the things I love most about God is he hears us when we call; whether we're happy, sad, angry or even in a snit.  I wrote about one of my most difficult times, when God listened when I wasn't feeling very loving towards him, here.  Thanks again.
Deb
August 08, 2007 at 10:49am
Steve, you have me laughing :)  I can't believe you have never heard the word "snit" before.    Soozanne gave one definition, but here is one I found online...
Online Etymology Dictionary
snit 
"state of agitation, fit of temper," 1939, Amer.Eng., of unknown origin.

Online Etymology Dictonary © 2001 Douglas Harper

I would say that you probably won't see me in a snit too often, because I reserve that for those closest to me, unfortunately for them.  God gets to see all my snits, and He knows that sometimes they can last a while.  I wonder how often I try his patience?  :)

Soozanne, I just read your post, and thought it was really good.  I am so glad that God has so much patience with us, to wait until we understand better how much we need Him in our lives, and we cannot make it without Him.  Thanks for your comments. 
Steve
August 08, 2007 at 11:38am
I like my definition better =)
Deb
August 08, 2007 at 12:09pm
Steve, it is a funnier definition, that is for sure!
Mike n Laura
August 08, 2007 at 1:08pm
Deb, great post! Did I miss it first time around? I guess so.

Regarding faith in prayer, I believe the faith necessary isn't the faith that God will do, I think we need the faith that says God can do.

Regarding unrepentant works which displease God, we become so focused on ourselves that we aren't listening to God. So our prayers are more like talking to hear ourselves speak. No wonder they aren't answered!

~mike
Deb
August 08, 2007 at 6:07pm
Mike, that is so true...we are so focused on ourselves that we aren't listening to God.  God knows when our hearts are in the right place, and He will answer us at the right time.  Thanks for your comments.
Gene
August 08, 2007 at 6:36pm

Deb, we can't have an honest relationsip with anybody if we're not willing to be ourselves.  And that includes getting angry.  If we hold back because we think we're not supposed to be angry with Him, then we are, by definition, limiting our relationship with Him.  A real, "personal relationship" only happens if we let God see us for who we really are.

Deb
August 08, 2007 at 6:46pm
Gene, so true!  I guess if we look at God as our Friend, not only as our Heavenly Father, we should treat him as we would a friend.  Of course, God can see our ugly sides anyway, we can't hide from Him.  I think we can only have a true relationship with Him when we share it all...including the anger.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Rich is Livin 4 Him
August 09, 2007 at 8:33pm
Yep, I agree... Great post.

I'm a daddy of three and if I've had a dollar for everytime I've had to say no or not comply with my kids direct wishes, I'd own this trailer park by now!

Yeah, they get mad but they don't see the outcome as I see it. They don't yet understand things the way I do. Same with God; He care if we are upset but He's got our best interest at heart.

Rich
Deb
August 10, 2007 at 11:07am
Rich, God does have our best interest at heart, even though we may not see it or agree with Him at the time.  It always works out in the end though. Thanks for your comments!
King of cheese
August 10, 2007 at 11:10am
God expects you to get mad at Him. He made you and He knows you! Anything other than your true feelings would be fraudulent. What you do while angry is another story...


"Youre making me angry and you wouldnt like me when I'm angry"

 -Dr Bruce Banner /the hulk
Deb
August 10, 2007 at 11:29am
King, thanks for your comments...and indeed, if I really let my anger get the best of me, God and I would probably not be on speaking terms!  :)  I take a lot of comfort in the bible and the times it tells us of God getting angry.  I know that it is not only a human emotion, it is a God emotion too.
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