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Mike n Laura
August 25, 2007 at 8:12am
Norm, I (personally) don't know anyone who is desirous of discontent. And I hope you don't think that is what I was advocating here. :-)

You read the blog, I know you know what I was urging... "a Godly yearning, perhaps what Paul refers to as “straining” in Phil. 3:13. ...a constant yearning for more, a yearning or dissatisfaction that I hope to never lose (in this life). ...Since God is infinite, is there ever a time when we can no longer grow anymore, learn anymore, receive anymore?"

I think the folks you are referring to above, who bask in being miserable, are actually far from God, and instead have their eyes on themselves. (I think you even make that point with your contrast in emphasis between the first and second recitations of the scripture above.)

Thanks for making me think once again Norm. Yep, even on a Saturday morning!  ~mike
Norm
August 25, 2007 at 9:12am

This had nothing to do with your post.  Actually my first wasn't supposed to be a response to your post.  I had actually planned on posting it based on recent events, saw yours, read it, realized I didn't want to confuse the issue, but didn't want to do the "Did you see what I posted here thing?". :)

Don't know if that makes sense and if it doesn't I'll hit you up via e-mail.

As for whether the folks above are actually far from God, they may well be.  However what you need to keep in mind is most people write what they know.  The above entry started with a whole lot more "I"s in the sentences before I slowly removed them.  And this is not always obvious.  Re-read the content of the previous discontentment and the paragraphs about me, was that me being content in my discontentment?  Or what I describe above?

I find myself avoiding a *lot* of posts around here because that is how they strike me.  I don't know if I'm being cynical, or whether it's of the nature of "Takes one to know one".  Basically what it comes down to is am I glorifying the fact that I am a sinner to gain sympathy or show that I'm holy?  Or am I doing so because I feel I can teach with it?  It's a matter of the heart, but it's the heart of this matter.

I've had it pointed out to me over the years that I worry too much about the subtleties.  The thing is that I think the subtleties are what makes all the difference in the world. 

hopefienddave
August 25, 2007 at 10:39am
Good BLOG and discussion. I wonder if I should read that Ragmuffin thingy???
Norm
August 25, 2007 at 4:33pm

The Ragmuffin book was a very enjoyable book to read.   I know I've been picking on it a bit as of late but part of that is because someone just asked me what it was specifically that I didn't like about it.  So it's been on the brain.

And by avoiding a lot of posts, I don't mean not actually reading them.  But there are a lot that I don't comment on because I don't know how to. 

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