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Pastor_Ken_and_Aminata
October 15, 2007 at 1:39pm
Pastor Greg,

I truly agree, the first thing most people will cry.... we're not suppose to judge!

God Bless,

Pastor Aminata
Denise
October 15, 2007 at 1:55pm

That is biblical, but you are right, there are many things slipping through the cracks right in our churches, and we act as if we have blinders on.
Thank you for sharing

JessIAm
October 15, 2007 at 2:04pm
I understand what you are saying here, and I agree with it.  Most of the time I hear the phrase "we're not supposed to judge" used, it's valid.  I think a lot of the issue depends on what a person means by the term judge.  If a homeless person, or a prostitute or someone in some other socially "unacceptable" live situation shows up at Church, we should look past their situation and show love to them.  In that sense, we certainly should not judge them.
Birdie Courtright
October 15, 2007 at 3:05pm
I agree with you Jess, we should be accepting of everyone otherwise, they'll go right back out the door without recieving the help and salvation they came for. I also agree with you, Pastor Greg. When someone in the church is not growing spritually--when they're still in the mess after having been discipled in the word, we should address that. However, I don't believe in giving up on people ever.
Denise
October 16, 2007 at 6:18am
Birdie
I agree with both you and JessIAm we should never ever turn anyone away that is trying to change their life, anyone who comes to our church looking for what is missing. And as you said we should not overlook it when someone is not where they should be after having been discipled in the word, either way their blood would be on our hands if we fail them. It is a very thin line but God gives us the power of discernment.

I have been in churches where people tried to change a person the minute they walked to the altar, which only succeeded in driving them away.  Let them come God will change them, our job is to show them love, and to guide them through love, and what is God?  God is love.
Birdie Courtright
October 16, 2007 at 8:44am
Well said Denise, I agree that discernment plays a huge role when it comes to disciping others.  Love reaches much deeper than knowledge-and love does not fail.    
JessIAm
October 16, 2007 at 10:11am

I have been in churches where people tried to change a person the minute they walked to the altar, which only succeeded in driving them away.

I've come to the conclusion that I should never try to change anyone. God's the expert on that.  If He uses me (which happens often), that is Him using me to change them, not me changing anyone.

Denise
October 16, 2007 at 10:30am
You are so right JessIAM
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