|
| That's a white this or that! |
|
| |
“That’s a white this or that” How many times have you heard a song, and either you say it, or someone else say’s
“That’s a white people Song?”
How about when your Driving down the road ,and you see a church and, you say or hear someone else say,
“That’s a white Church?”
On and on we could go! Dancing, singing, praising worshiping Ect.
What is that? And why do we make statements like that?
Years ago there used to be signs hanging on doors that read “ No Negro’s, or no black’s or no this and that.
This was to let certain people or things know that they were not welcome.In other word's keep out! 2000 years ago a man named Jesus came to earth to tell people to come IN, “ yes” Come IN!
All were welcome, all were invited, come as you are!
People clung to his message, Black’s, whites in fact people from all races colors and creeds came Just as they were!
So why is it now we use terms like that’s a white this, or that’s a black that when it comes to Gods house or music or way of worship?
There has never been a sign that said Keep out!
There has never been a sign that said No white’s! There has never been a sign that said this ethnic group only!
The Bible Say’s
10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
I heard a story once! A black man went to a door of a church, only to find that there was a sign that read “No Colored's allowed” the man walked away to the woods where he talked with another man who asked him “ Why are you so sad?” the man replied I wanted to go to that church up there but the sign read No colored allowed they won’t let me in” The man replied to Him Don’t worry, They won’t let me in either, and I’m Jesus! So the next time you say or hear someone say “That’s a white this or that! Remind them that the Bible says whosoever!
© All Rights Reserved by Agape Christian Fellowship of Friends Ministries, Founder-Keith Wilson, Sr. | | |
|
|
| To add a comment to "That's a white this or that!" |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
| October 15, 2007 |
 |
|
|
| Amen, Evangelist! When I was teaching high school I observed a culture within that particular population of black males that taunted each other that academia was "white," that anyone who studied or cared about their grades was "acting white." How sad and restricitive it is for any of us to have to live up to what someone else thinks is appropriate for "our kind." We are God's children. We are brothers and sisters. We are humanity. We are making improvements, but so slowly! |
|
|
| October 15, 2007 |
|
|
|
You preach it, Evangelist!
~Coreena |
|
|
| October 15, 2007 |
|
|
|
I have four very bright grandkids (14-4) and they are in the stage of finding themselves amongst others in their respective age groups. I am amazed at what they tell me in dealing with other kids, especially the 14 year old. The school that he attends is multi-cultural and he is very observant. In fact he just did a paper that he wants to put in the school newspaper concerning racism and peer pressure. In this day and age and we said the same thing 10 years ago, people need to let go of color. WE ARE GODS CHILDREN(no matter what color we are) and in the end times it doesn't matter anyway. I have friends, it doesn't matter what color, they are just friends.
I thank my father for opening my eyes to the fact that he loves us all and we should love each other the same.
|
|
|
| October 15, 2007 |
|
|
|
Holy Ghost boldness!
Pastor Aminata |
|
|
| October 15, 2007 |
|
|
|
I come from a place in this world where I didn't know what racial prejudice was. When I was a little child, I used to think that the N word was a nice word for nice people and I always wanted one for my friend. As a man, I had that opportunity.
I actually pastored a 50-50 black-white church in No'th Ca'lina. It was a cultural shock at times, especially the first time I preached there. Several folks on the front row used to yell things like "Preach it brother!" and "Amen! You tell it preacher!" First time I heard it, I totally forgot what I was supposed to be preaching for a moment. Later, I learned that I actually preached much better. It was a pleasant feeling to have a cheer-leading squad on the front row.
Then I developed a deep friendship with the blackest black man I have ever known. His name is Jimmy and he is an electrician by trade. We used to fish together and he used to tell me of the experiences he had at the hand of some white folks. They would treat him rough and when he was working with a white fellow, one guy even told the white guy to get that ___ out of here. How absolutely awful! One time some folks stared at us enjoying a good time together and I almost got so mad that I would have bopped them if they had said anything mean to my dear, dear friend. I really miss Jimmy. He is one of the best friends I ever had! |
|
|
| October 15, 2007 |
|
|
|
| Grant, I had a similar funny experience several years ago. I was out to dinner in a small country home-cooking restaurant with my then closest friend. We tended to command attention wherever we went, as I was white and 5'2" and she was about 6'2", slender, model-like, about 5 years younger, and black. As we chatted over dinner, we were laughing a lot, and I kept noticing a man eating alone who was watching us with great interest. (I don't even remember whether he was black or white.) His curiosity of our friendship apparently getting the best of him, he finally asked us "Do you two work together." I don't know what possessed me to say this, but I answered, "No, I'm her mother." We all three had a good laugh, and that was the end of that conversation. |
|
|
| October 15, 2007 |
|
|
|
Kathy- Thank you for your comment, Yes this trend needs to be addressed- more so in Church and Home.
Coreena- The truth, nothing but the Truth!
Gods chosen- We on the same page.
Jack2u- that's right simple as black and white.
Pastor A.- And wanting to be even Bolder for our Lord. Amen!
Pastor Tim- Thank you, and thanks for the encouragement.
Grant- Thanks for the reflection, it's still going to take a lot of people to get to that level, but we going to keep on preaching the truth! Amen! |
|
|
| October 15, 2007 |
|
|
|
| Kathy, that was funny! |
|
|
| October 15, 2007 |
|
|
|
| PREACH! Aint God good? |
|
|
| October 15, 2007 |
|
|
|
| YES he is brother! |
|
|
| October 15, 2007 |
|
|
|
Amen my brother.....I love Honey's analogy about the organ transplant...so true... |
|
|
| October 16, 2007 |
|
|
|
| Your fast becomming one of my best friends Keith and we haven't met yet. I was driving down the street to take a friend to the Vidio store. My friend said have you been to that Church yet. I said once or twice. He sais that's a black church. I said no it was polk a dot. I dunno know why we do that to ourselves. I think we are falling for one of the enemies tricks. I think the enemy is happy any time he can get us devided. |
|
|
| October 18, 2007 |
|
|
|
Amen to the Evangelist! Not much needs to be added but a thank you for words. There is a lot of baggage here in this life and skin color has some of that. Won't it be wonderful to all be kneeling before the King of Kings and Lord of Lords? Just think as we are all on our knees before the same Lord for all, we won't be looking at each other for the differences or similarities we have with each other. We were all bought with a price and we will be overwhelmed with the Grace and Mercy of our Savior! Oh that we could leave some of those stigmas and prejudices behind and see each other as God sees us. When He sees us he sees Jesus. We look at the outside, but God looks at the heart. What a great Blog! Grace and Peace to you! Your brother in Christ. |
|
|
| October 18, 2007 |
|
|
|
| Thanks to all of you for your word, and prayer. It is so good to be able to Love each other no matter what color, or race we are, Thanks Brent, your right We have to leave the baggage out. |
|
|
| October 21, 2007 |
|
|
|
I don't know but as I look out the door folks are preying on black and white's just the same. We Christians don't have any room for divisions in the last days. And these are the last days. 3:1 But know this, that in the last days grievous times shall come. 3:2 For men shall be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, railers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3:3 without natural affection, implacable, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, no lovers of good, 3:4 traitors, headstrong, puffed up, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God; 3:5 holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power therefore. From these also turn away. 3:6 For of these are they that creep into houses, and take captive silly women laden with sins, led away by divers lusts, 3:7 ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
After all aren't we all striving willingly to be bondservants of the savior of our soul? |
|
|
| October 21, 2007 |
|
|
|
| Yes Dave , we all Should Be! |
|
|
| October 21, 2007 |
|
|
|
Hey Evangelist,
My wife is a Realtor, say what you will, but the facts are, races group themselves together geographically also, and some Churches reflect that. I don't think that's a problem.
It doesn't mean to most (in my opinion), that they are less cared about, or anything like that; it's just the way it is. Why do we need to read so much into it... and are we?
By the way, how many pigment challenged (whites), on this site, have tried to go to an all black Church? If you haven't, maybe you should try that first, before you assume you can just excel there. - We live, play, worship, in the Churches and neighborhoods that we feel most comfortable in. It is not for the most part in my opinion, because we have some thing against somebody else, because of color or some other difference.
My two cents, R... |
|
|
| October 21, 2007 |
|
|
|
Hey Keith, boy am I glad I came across this blog. You know, I just don't know what all the hubbub is about people's color! What's that??? I've shook hands with and hugged folks whose skin is as white as the brightest moon at night, or as dark as night sky around that moon. And all shades in between. It all feels the same to me! Depending on where people live, they might speak with an accent, or they might prefer a certain style of music, or dress in a certain way. But the people are all the same, at least in God's eyes. And in mine, I believe.
We attend an ethnically mixed church, and I love it!! Seriously that is one of the things I like most about our church. Heck, do we think for one moment heaven is all gonna be one shade?? No, so why should our churches be?
It grieves to think that something as silly as skin shade could stand in the way of two believers fellowshipping with one another. Silly! ...btw, in case ya'll didn't know, it really is a matter of shade, not color. We are all the same color! haha (true!) |
|
|
| October 21, 2007 |
|
|
|
R.,
Your two cents is well taken, but it really doesn't or shouldn't matter what color you are when it comes to God. If you feel like you want to worship in a separated fellowship then that's fine, however bare in mind that there is only one heaven and I haven't read anywhere that it will be separated by race.
Furthermore, I have worshipped in churches that were made up of congregations that were all white, mixed (all races), and in every type of congregation you can think of. I have even attended an INDEPENDENT, FUNDAMENTAL, BIBLE BELIEVING SOULWINNING CHURCH and SCHOOL that was prodominently white, except me and another guy. I have attended four Pastors schools when Pastor Jack Hyles was living and met Curtis Hudson, Bob Grey, and a host of others. And yes, I already know how some of them feel about what you are talking about, but it doesn't matter! All of us have a Heaven to gain and a hell to shun, and if you think that God is going to separate race or color than you may need to take a closer look at your Bible. Maybe some of us have become so fundamentally independent that we have become independent of God.
This blog was by no means about that, but since you seem to be going in that direction, I will say that I will not tolerate you nor anyone else implying that we shouldn't worship together whether it be in an all white church, an all black church, or any other church for that matter. It's all about winning souls for Christ!
That's just my three cents, (1 for the Father, 2 for the Son, 3 for the Holy Spirit),
Evang. Wilson... |
|
|
| October 21, 2007 |
|
|
|
| Good word brother, there is no room in the kingdom of God for prejudice, remember James chap 2 |
|
|
| October 21, 2007 |
|
|
|
| Hey Keith (& R), having read your (Keith's) last comment, I went back and read yours, R. In answer to your question, "how many pigment challenged (whites), on this site, have tried to go to an all black Church?" We went to a Thanksgiving service 2 yrs ago, when our pastor was invited to speak at a church where the attendees were 99% AA (Afr Am.). The preaching was good (well, it was our own pastor lol), but the worship was awesome. The music itself was not really to my liking, but I was able to look beyond the music at the words, words of love, adoration, and gratitude, and we felt such unity with the believers there. Most of those folks there did not look anything like us, but that made the unity all the more real! I'll never forget it! |
|
|
| October 21, 2007 |
|
|
|
| Thank all of you That understood what this blog was all about! |
|
|
| October 21, 2007 |
|
|
|
Evangelist Keith,
Well said. Well said.
R - I suggest you do a bit of traveling just across the states. You will see both... blacks in all white churches and whites in all Black churches. It is understandable how one can ask such a question if one has never seen or experience such. It does exist and yes, we can all get along, when we want to.
Just my widow's mites
Pastor Aminata |
|
|
| October 22, 2007 |
|
|
|
Hey,
R can be for regardless also. Regardless, the pigment challenged people that I know, do Not keep this topic under the spotlight, or slip it into their conversations (ever). The only two friends we have (of color) 1 man 1 woman, both in their 80's, always bring this topic up (as do some Jews about the holocaust), though we really can't call them our close friends (the Jews), like these other two.
I guess I can understand that they will never forget it. But is it productive? To what extent should it remain a topic under the spotlight? Maybe you believe you are doing it in the right amounts but to some of us, we think it's a bit much.
My question is this: In Denver (right now), Planned Parenthood is building it's largest facility yet (for murdering the unborn), in a primarily black area, they are building it. Why? Because many of the clients that come to have abortions (murder their unborn), are of color and come from these areas.
But you know what? Even though you can't go around a block in that area and not come in contact with a predominately all color Church, there is no-one from those Churches witnessing or protesting it's building.
But you know who is? The pigment challenged (by and large), from Denver Bible Church. http://kgov.com/bel_56kbps/20070914
Why aren't more people of color witnessing and protesting this thing being built in their own neighborhoods? Peer pressure?
I'd like to stay on something that has some real meat and meaning to it, not try and answer why do blacks go to black Churches and why do whites go to white Churches. It's still worth to some 2 cents. R... |
|
|
| October 22, 2007 |
|
|
|
As sad as it is, all of this boils down to a "heart" issues. No matter how you slice it, what sites you pull, or if you have black, white, yellow, or purple friends-this is a heart issue. If our hearts were right with God, we would love with the "Agape" unconditional love. I am also a realtor, and I take folks to look at the houses that they can afford, not based on demographical make-up. None of my clients have ever asked me: Is this a_________ or ________ neighborhood. People live where their money takes them. |
|
|
| October 22, 2007 |
|
|
|
Hey Isha,
I agree... and even if they did ask us, we could not steer them in anyway... for or against. And we don't need to... they can get that information themselves.
So, a heart problem that stems from peer and neighbor pressure... or what? R... |
|
|
| October 22, 2007 |
|
|
|
| No More needs to be said to you, regarding this. we all know who you are , and were you stand and can see clearly what you feel and beleive.I will pray for you! |
|
|
| October 22, 2007 |
|
|
|
| Thanks MH. |
|
|
| October 22, 2007 |
|
|
|
Hey Guitar Guy and Evangelist,
So are you guys saying that you are for us, as we pull black women from out of the fire (from murdering their unborn), or have you misunderstood what e have shared here?
As my wife and I read your comments again Evangelist, you seem to be implying that we are against color. If that is what you think, you are wrong and I don't know where you got it except from the accuser of the brethren. If either of you guys want to compare numbers of talking people out of having abortions and many of them are not white, lets compare those numbers. |
|
|
| October 23, 2007 |
|
|
|
Hey Keith, I may be misreading some posts here, but the way I read R's comments, at least the earlier ones, it seemed as if he was essentially saying the chips fall where the chips fall -- i.e. there is a sense that gravity comes to play in where people go to church. I would hope no one here would argue that segregated churches are a good thing, and I don't think I've seen that... praise God! Hopefully just some misunderstanding going on here? God bless you brother!
R, here's a test, how many Scythians have you talked out of abortion lately? Now that would be an accomplishment! :-) |
|
|
| October 23, 2007 |
|
|
|
| Mike i have read and re-read, the comments, it's all in black and white. i have left it up to God, i will deal no more with those types of comments from a person who is trying to get me to focus on things that are not helping anyone come to the knowldge of the truth "Lord forgive me please if i am wrong!" again this blog was not a race thing it was for Christians to be aware of us all going to one Heaven and that we are all on the same team, and not seperated. Some people wanted to make it that, but i think you know all that i write is to build up the body of Christ and to provoke people to a deeper way of thinking. The things that have been said by some people are hurtful and un Christ-like, but of course the Devil likes to come in and steal, kill, and destroy! But God will advocate for me! Mile don't let this guy get under your skin, It's his Job! Good bless you! |
|
|
| October 23, 2007 |
|
|
|
28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen.
|
|
|
| February 05, 2008 |
|
|
|
HOW did I miss this blog! Great blog Evangelist Keith!! So true...and so needed. Keep telling the truth and sharing your heart.
Forgiven. |
|
|
| February 05, 2008 |
|
|
|
| Wow! this was Written awhile ago! Thanks for reminding me! Not that I dont feel the same just been along time. Thanks |
|
|
| February 09, 2008 |
|
|
|
I'm truly enjoying catching up on my newfound friend's blog postings! This one sure lit a fire, didn't it? But you were expecting something like this, no doubt.
I love the new term "pigment-challenged"! I'll have to pass that one on to my Minister of Music
who sometimes refers to me as "white chocolate"! He has to be careful about using that term,
however, because some of the ladies of the Church heard him and felt it was derrogatory towards
me ! They also felt it would be a bad influence for the Youth to hear someone in authority using
terms like that, even in a joking manner. None of it bothered me at all; he and I kid around all the time. Of all the names I've been called in my life, "white chocolate" was one of the nicer ones!
When I joined my Church a little over a year ago, I went in knowing I would probably be the minority. My neighbors had been speaking so highly of their Pastor and urging us to come to
Church with them for the longest time. Since we had not found a Church home, I decided to go
one Sunday. As soon as I walked through the doors it was as if I could hear Jesus saying,
"Welcome home." I felt the Spirit of The Lord so strongly in that place, and it has only gotten
greater. I became a member the next week! I was baptized on my birthday in October, 2007 just
short of a year's membership. Although I've been baptized before, I wanted to be baptized in this Church--the place I feel will be my home for the rest of my life.
As far as the "pigment-challenged" issue, there hasn't been one. I'm "color-blind", meaning when
I look at someone I don't notice the color of their skin. I notice how they present themselves, if they appear to be in need, how they treat me. One of our Deacons told me once, "You're white?
I thought you were red like me...washed in Our Saviour's blood!"
And that's that. There are so many more things God wants us to attend to than waste our time
being bothered with race. Especially when we should all be "red."
Amen to you, Evangelist!
Peace and Love to All!
Deb Santiago |
|
|
| February 09, 2008 |
|
|
|
| Thank you Sister Deb, For your words of encouragement! |
|
|
| May 08, 2008 |
|
|
|
I, too, am color blind. But, I have dealt with racism on both sides.....both of my best friends in the whole wide world are darker than me.......we laugh alot about it. When someone mentions "colored" we look at each other and ask "What color are you?" And then we reply with different colors,,,,,maybe today, I'm green or blue.
I don't see their color, nor do they see mine........all we see is each other's beauty :)
Our last incident happened in Walmart.....my friend is a Katrina evacuee and we were shopping for clothes....girls day out....wooooooooohooooooooo. But, then a damper got put on it. Two black women approached us, ask her what her name was, ignoring me.....and then the blow came....they invited her to church, just hugging and loving on her......I wasn't invited nor spoken to. She quickly informed them that she attends church with me.....and what do they say? They say that she might be more comfortable in THEIR church. This saddened me so. We are God's children, no matter the color, no matter how many times my ears are pierced, no matter my hair color, no matter my tattoo.......God's children. That makes us all brothers and sisters.....right? Then we should act like it :) |
|
|
Follow this blog
