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When I was a kid, Halloween was fun. I usually dressed up as something totally nonthreatening, like a princess, or a cat, or a bum. We didn't have to worry about people putting things like needles or drugs or razor blades or some other weird item into the candy. We didn't have to worry that someone would kidnap us, or that some pedophile would grab us to do unspeakable things.
That is not the case today.
Halloween, in my opinion, is an opportunity for some people to act like they are crazy. It is an excuse for behavior that is less than admirable. And it is an opportunity for those that deal in the occult, to celebrate the occult. I think that Halloween is becoming more and more geared towards adults rather than children, and the things celebrated are as far away from innocent children as possible. There is worship of evil spirits, messing with the occult, demons...not things that Christians should be associated with.
"The origins of Halloween are Celtic in tradition and have to do with observing the end of summer sacrifices to gods in Druidic tradition. In what is now Britain and France, it was the beginning of the Celtic year, and they believed Samhain, the lord of death, sent evil spirits abroad to attack humans, who could escape only by assuming disguises and looking like evil spirits themselves. The waning of the sun and the approach of dark winter made the evil spirits rejoice and play nasty tricks. Believe it or not, most of our Halloween practices can be traced back to these old pagan rites and superstitions.
But what about today? Perhaps we can still learn from history. In the fourth century, Christians attempted to co-opt the holiday by celebrating the lives of faithful Christian saints the day before Halloween. This was a conscious attempt to provide an alternative and re-focus the day away from ghouls, goblins, ghosts, witches and other “haunted” experiences. Since that time many Christians have decided to allow their children to dress in more “innocent” costumes of pumpkins, princesses, Superman or as a cowboy. Part of this is due to the simple reality that in today’s Western culture it is nearly impossible to “avoid” Halloween.
Halloween is a real, sacred day for those who follow Wicca. In fact, it is one of two high and holy days for them. The Celtic belief of spirits being released is current, along with the worship of Samhain (the lord of death) – both are promoted as something to embrace on that day. There is no question in my mind that to those who believe and follow the practices of witchcraft, Halloween represents an opportunity to embrace the evil, devilish, dark side of the spiritual world."
So should you celebrate Halloween? I think that has to be an individual decision. I prefer not to celebrate it. In the days when I was a child, it was fun, but now, it doesn't appeal to me. If I had children, depending on their age and amount of understanding, I would tell them of a spiritual world that has both evil from satan and good from God. I would make sure they knew all about Christ and his power over the darkness of this world.
In a world that has too much evil in it already, Halloween seems a waste of time to me. Especially when there are too many out there who celebrate it because they want to embrace evil. |
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Gene |
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October 16, 2007 at 1:35pm |
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Deb,
I was never allowed to dress up in those ghoulish outfits either.
Christmas is the Christian festival that supersedes the Feast of Saturnalia, celebrating the winter solstice.
Easter is taken from the Babylonian festival for Ishtar - the goddess of fertility, celebrating the time of the year when new things are being born.
All Saints day is the attempt to reclaim this Wicca festival for a Christian event. So, why not? Why not take what many see as a purely catholic day (all saints day and make it a celebration that we as all Christians can commemorate? And take both days - All Hallows day as well as the day before, All Hallows' Een?
Christmas is being reclaimed by the popular culture again. We can be different but we can also be influential and stand out. |
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Gene,
I agree with you, reclaim or restate the meaning. There is nothing stopping Christians from doing that... so why won't they?
As for me, when I know better, I do better. Once I learned the true meaning of all ... I made a decision to not participate. I don't do Holloween, I don't do Christmas (yes I do celebrate the set aside birth of our Lord Jesus) but I don't go shopping, I don't do Easter (yes I do celebrate the Resurrection of our Lord Jesus) but I don't go shopping.
We allow ourselves to be manipulated by society at large when we don't have to. I can buy gifts at any time of the year and give. Christmas is about sharing "The Gift" not going out and maxing out your credit card and Santa Claus...
Just me and my one woman stand.
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Dana |
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October 16, 2007 at 2:21pm |
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I don't let my children celebrate Holloween. I explain to them what it is and why we don't do it. They understand and agree that it is not the right thing for us to do. We also do not celebrate "Santa" during Christmas...but Jesus birthday...even though it's the wrong time of the year. We give three gifts to each of our boys because Jesus got three gifts. Not expensive gifts either. We sing happy birthday to Jesus and my grandma gets a birthday cake for him every year for our Christmas supper. We do not hunt eggs or celebrate with the easter bunny. We keep the focus on Christ.
It's tough to stand on what you believe. Especially when others in the church and family do it. But we have desided that for our family...we will not celebrate the world's way.
It makes me sad to see other Christian celebrating Holloween especially, but they have to make that decision between themselves and God.
My goal is to protect my children and guard their hearts while they are in my care. I try my best, but don't always do the right thing. |
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Gene |
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October 16, 2007 at 2:23pm |
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Pastor,
I wish I knew why they didn't reclaim or restate. Anybody got a clue out there?
We participate but we send Christian Christmas cards. We also celebrate the birth of Christ at Christmas and His resurrection at Easter. And our church has big celebrations to that effect - hopefully something to keep people's mind on the "importance" of those days rather than simply "on those days."
I've often thought that we need, in someways, to act like Jews with regard to these holidays. Recognize that there is a cultural aspect to them, yet still keep our religion strong and not be swayed by the societal conventions. After all, we are aliens in this world. We should be able to act like it.
Great topic, Deb. |
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We do not celebrate Halloween, but our church holds a fall festival instead. This is an attempt to bring some out of darkness and into His marvelous light. I was driving through town the other day, and the city had tied up these dead pretend ppl to the post in the town square. I had such an eery feeling about it, because I know that there was a day long ago that you could see that very type of insane things happen. Especially to the racially charged areas during the civil war. I hated those stupid dummies being displayed through town square. I realize it is all suppose to be fun and games, but thats not fun.
I am up for a good hay ride, or corn maze, or a apple dunking contest, or something like that. NOW THATS FUN! |
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Dana |
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October 16, 2007 at 2:26pm |
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| Hum, this has my wheels turning. Can you smell the smoke? LOL! The Lord put some things on my heart about Christmas....hum! Great topic. |
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There are many good things in our society that were "taken back" from pagan origins. Christmas is a greate example. This was originally the celebration of the winter solstice among Germanic tribes. The idea of "Jesus is the reason for the season" isn't exactly accurate (but relevant in my opinion - its become a Christian holiday over a couple thousand years). We allow ourselves to be manipulated by society at large when we don't have to. Pastor Aminata this is an excelent observation. Is it me, or does the Church at large tend to react in immature ways when we see the world being worldly? |
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Dana |
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October 16, 2007 at 2:28pm |
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| Shannon, no hay ride smily faces? You are slipping! |
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Gene |
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October 16, 2007 at 2:29pm |
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Dana, try recognizing St Nicholas on December 6th and Jesus birthday on the 25th. In Europe, the Feats of St Nicholas (from whence we get the term Santa Claus) recognizes this real man who served as a local bishop in the early church many centuries ago and who gave gifts in order to help those less fortunate. Our youth pastor did a whole series on that to get the kids to recognize the origins of our social festivities and reclaim them - at least for themselves.
I think it's easier with Christmas and Easter. Halloween is another thing altogether. I think we need at least try the ghoulishness out of it and avoid any Wiccan influences. |
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Dana |
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October 16, 2007 at 2:32pm |
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We read a book on St Nicholas. Very interesting. We tell the boys that anyone who gives them a gift is Santa...speaking of the real man and what he did.
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Who said alien Christian? I love it! I'm an alien Christian! I'm Gay and I'm an alien!
But of course I'm an alien Christian.... I'm a woman Pastor! lol
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OMGSH!! If someone had not read Evangilist blog Pastor Ami they would totally misunderstand that!!!!
ROTFL!!!!!
To all outsiders of that blog...there was a discussion about reclaiming the word GAY to is original meaning..which means happy.
OMGSH GIRL!! |
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heheheheh...
Pastor Aminata
tole ya I was an alien! |
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Dana |
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October 16, 2007 at 2:45pm |
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JessIAm messaged me with a good point. Let me clarify something...
"It makes me sad to see other Christian celebrating Holloween especially, but they have to make that decision between themselves and God."
I didn't want to go into a story so I generalized and it didn't quite come out right. I have a few friends who shared with me that they think celebrating Holloween is wrong but do so because of pressure from friends and family. It breaks my heart to see them go through this struggle. There is nothing I can say that will amount to a hill of beans...it will have to come from the Holy Spirit.
In a nutshell. I hope that clarifies. Thanks JessIAm. |
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Dana |
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October 16, 2007 at 2:50pm |
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| Man, I sound like Don Knotts in the Ghost and Mr. Chicken. "Let me clarify..." |
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No problem. Thanks for taking it well (not everyone has before). I'm so grateful to meet mature people such as yourself. |
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October 16, 2007 at 2:53pm |
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| That comes from years and years of growing and healing. I can see how it looked like that. It actually seems kind of snobby and better than you. That's not me. Glad you brought that to my attention...didn't need to look like a Christian snob. |
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October 16, 2007 at 2:57pm |
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| Maybe because I am a Lutheran... but REFORMATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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See this is why I teach communication. Doesn't matter what you say, it what people hear, read... etc. I said this to say.... I must of missed something... but don't matter, Dana and Jess ya'll understand each other... and that's a real good thang.
Right Shannon?
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Dana |
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October 16, 2007 at 2:58pm |
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| Shannon, it is so funny. I actually wouldn't watch it now because it disturbs me with all the satanic stuff but aside from that it is comical. It doesn't bother my husband. Guess it depends on the person. Don give a speech where he's always saying, "Let me clarify that...". |
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Gene |
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October 16, 2007 at 3:03pm |
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Hey you guys! Deb needs some stars!
You can't keep yammering without acknowledging her blog. That's just not right. |
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I think I starred her...but just incase...heres a star! 
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Dana |
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October 16, 2007 at 3:06pm |
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| Go Deb, it's a good blog. It's awesome! You rock! Star for you! |
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Dana |
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October 16, 2007 at 3:09pm |
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| Gene is keeping us in line! We'll have to call him Daddy Gene. From this day forward you are hereby known as "Daddy Gene, Keeper of the Stars" LOL! |
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Gene |
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October 16, 2007 at 3:22pm |
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It is an honor shall wear proudly. . .
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Whenever I read a blog.. I always give a star.. If I read it you deserve it. Deb I think I just gave you two stars.... you deserve it.
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| I leave it between that person and God, much like you seem to be saying, but I knew the roots of it, so I don't want to "celebrate" it. One thing we do is give out candy. Last Halloween, I made good treat bags with sayings on it pertaining to things of Halloween like vampires: I'd say something like "Want to live forever? Choose Jesus." Then I would have a Bible verse on the other side. Plus I wrote tracks of my own for two age groups; the children and the teens, and dropped it in their bags with everything else. It is a perfect opportunity to sow some seed! |
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October 16, 2007 at 3:33pm |
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| Lara, great. My grandma does that. I live out in the woods so no kids come to my house. That is an excellent opportunity to put some light in darkness. Keep up the good job! You might be bringing Jesus to someone who has never heard of him. Evangelize girl!!!!! |
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I think you have to figure out what is right in your area...we have a fall festival, too, and it is a lot of fun to get together. There is one church in the area that allows the kids to dress up like Bible characters - nothing wrong with that. We don't give out candy - usually - and more than once our house has been egged. Oh well. I don't let my kids go door to door - not because it is Halloween so much, but I don't think it is right to teach them to demand candy. I break it down to the very basic idea.
Great blog Deb!! |
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October 17, 2007 at 2:16am |
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| I NEVER LET MY KIDS DRESS UP .....I DID AS A KID BUT WE STOPPED WHEN SOMEONE DID INDEED FIND A RAZOR BLADE IN AN APPLE......MY GRANDKIDS HOWEVER ARE ALLOWED TO AND I TOTALLY DIAGREE WITH IT BUT I'M TOLD "WE ARE THEIR PARENTS AND WE DECIDE WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR KIDS NOT YOU" SO WHAT DO YOU DO?????? |
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Deb |
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October 17, 2007 at 9:47am |
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What a great response to this topic! Thanks to all of you for all the comments (and the stars).
Gene, I like all that you said, but this is the best...I've often thought that we need, in someways, to act like Jews with regard to these holidays. Recognize that there is a cultural aspect to them, yet still keep our religion strong and not be swayed by the societal conventions. After all, we are aliens in this world. We should be able to act like it. If only we could keep our religion strong and not be swayed by society.
Pastor Aminata, I still do some shopping for Christmas, but I don't go all out like I used to. I just feel that it makes the meaning of Christmas get lost. My biggest enjoyment at Christmas time is being in church celebrating with my Christian family.
Dana, I commend you for what you are doing with your children. I think that is fantastic! I don't have kids, but if I did, I would want them to know the real meanings behind the holidays. Good for you for sticking to what you believe in, making a decision and standing by it. To me, Easter is the MOST important holiday of the year, and not because of the Easter Bunny! Too many forget that and it gets lost in egg hunts and candy.
Shannon, I can just picture the bodies tied to the post. That is not a good picture for little children! I have heard a lot of churches have fall festivals, and I think that is a good idea.
Jess, I don't think it is just you. The church can act immature when it sees the world being worldly.
Lara, what a great idea for the treats you hand out. We don't have trick or treat in my neighborhood, basically because we are so far away from town, but if we did, I would do something like this.
DC, I remember one year, we lived in Michigan at the time, and my husband had already gotten another job back here, so he was in Ohio and I was in Michigan trying to sell our home. I was home alone on Halloween, and since I was there alone, I didn't want to hand out candy. I can remember wondering how many eggs I would have to clean up, but it never happened. No one seemed bothered by the fact that I wasn't handing out treats.
Rosie, I guess you have to let the parents make the decisions. Maybe someday they will figure out differently and change their minds.
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October 17, 2007 at 9:56am |
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MH and Jess...lol I love donuts! and as Jess says, they are Holeeee. Too funny. |
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MH - No don't move it.... from that day... that's my birthday..... what's a birthday without dougnuts?
Jess - That's a good one... hole-eee!
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Deb |
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October 17, 2007 at 10:11am |
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Pastor Aminata, maybe we should have multiple donut days, all birthdays and Oct. 31...then that would mean donuts every day!!
Lily, I agree wholeheartedly with what you said. Everything we do or say should be to God's glory. |
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Gene |
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October 17, 2007 at 10:21am |
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MH,
If there's nothing evil about donuts, my waistline will thank you! |
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Misse |
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October 18, 2007 at 10:09am |
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| My family and I do a harvest party at our home. We celebrate harvest time for the Lord. We may dress up but just for fun, like a bible character and ask questions about the character. We bake cookies and cut up a pumpkin just to get the seeds out to bake. The kids don't carve a face or anything just get to make a huge mess, which is fun for our kids. We don't make a big deal out of halloween. I don't celebrate it, I celebrate all the harvest that God has brought into our lives. My kids don't eat candy. I know that is amazing itself but they don't like it. Anyways I thought I would express what I and my family do to have some fun. Good blog. |
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October 18, 2007 at 10:50am |
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Misse, thanks for sharing what you do at Halloween time. I can't believe your kids don't eat chandy, but I guess if you raise them without it, they don't know what they are missing. My dad had a sweet tooth, so there was ALWAYS candy in the house, so I grew up on it, and still love it! Bad for me!
Soldier, thanks for your comment. I agree with you. |
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I was born on Halloween, my name is Hal. I speaks wit awe-thority.. hear me! (LOL)
I remember when our Christian college had a "spook house" and when Campus Crusade or the Navigators had a spook house as well. Not so much anymore though. We have a church in our neck of the woods that does something called "Judgement House." Here is a link on an evangelical outreach like theirs.
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061028/NEWS/610280443/1326
I talked to the leadership after they put it on. The church felt that it was agreat opportunity for discussion afterwards and said that quite a few decisions were made as a result of their work.
We at WCBF have a harvest party for our little ones. It is witchless, spookless and monsterless and occultless. It is not however, candy-less. Our little ones come dressed as any costume party...pirates...ballplayers... police...firemen...star wars figures, we just say leave out the occult stuff.
Having said all that Hal doesn't know, after all!
Here is the ultimate in costume party goers:
7:15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves. 7:16 By their fruits ye shall know them. Do `men' gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but the corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 7:20 Therefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Ohh my --this turned into a blog, not a comment. <ooops!> |
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October 18, 2007 at 1:43pm |
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Now I'm afraid to go to Hall's party in a sheep costume - or a wolf - or even a tree. I think I should go as a fruit. (Shannon, no comments now, , , ). Actually, I've been to costume parties before in that same theme. We had pumpkin carving contests and "surprise" deserts (everything was covered in foil so you had no idea what you got until you got it. My wife and I went as m&m's - plain and peanut.
So it's possible to enjoy the time and festivities without bowing to the weird and cultish. |
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Dana |
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October 18, 2007 at 5:03pm |
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| Our church has a fall festival. It's great. Rock climbing wall, bouncy house, booth games, gifts, a clown...it's a great alternative to halloween. The neighborhood kids come. The men cook hotdogs and hamburgers. It is a fun, fun, fun day of family time. |
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| I wrote a big thing on this in my blog. Take a read and let me know what you think. I, personally, love Halloween....its the only time my neighbors expect me to knock on their doors! Talk about an opportunity to build a community and relationships! |
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October 19, 2007 at 11:26am |
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Gene, if you go as a fruit, what kind will you be? I agree it is possible to enjoy Halloween and not bring in the occult, and if that happens, then I am all for it. It just scares me that so many people out there are worshiping other things and doing other things that go against God...but then He has it all in His control, doesn't He?
Dana, The fall festival that our church has sounds like a lot of fun, for kids and grown ups alike!
Chrissy, I am taking a look at your blog as soon as I finish up here. Halloween can be sued for good things too. |
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October 22, 2007 at 12:56pm |
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Sorry for the delay, Deb. I was traveling this past weekend. What fruit would I be, what fruit. . . . ?
Probably an apple. Passion fruit could be taken the wrong way; grapefruit would be a wonderful play on words but a yellow blob would look like an m&m. An orange looks like a different m&m. Grapes would be good but I'd probably get asked if I was the fruit of the loom guy. Oh, well! There goes the apple idea.
I know! A pineapple! It's neither pine nor apple but something different. And the most popular type comes from a place other than it's place of origin. It can appear prickly on the outside but is usually sweet on the inside. It is the universal symbol of welcome and hospitality. And, not easily confused with other fruits. Seems to me that's a pretty good fruit for Christians. |
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October 22, 2007 at 5:12pm |
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| Excellent choice. I can see you dressed up as a pineapple now...sounds like a plan to me! |
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I've noticed a number of blogs about this topic. I just felt we should all remember something. I'm reminding myself to - I can be just as opinionated as anyone. Romans 14:1-5
1 AS FOR the man who is a weak believer, welcome him [into your fellowship], but not to criticize his opinions or pass judgment on his scruples or perplex him with discussions.
2 One [man's faith permits him to] believe he may eat anything, while a weaker one [limits his] eating to vegetables.
3 Let not him who eats look down on or despise him who abstains, and let not him who abstains criticize and pass judgment on him who eats; for God has accepted and welcomed him.
4 Who are you to pass judgment on and censure another's household servant? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he shall stand and be upheld, for the Master (the Lord) is mighty to support him and make him stand.
5 One man esteems one day as better than another, while another man esteems all days alike [sacred]. Let everyone be fully convinced (satisfied) in his own mind.
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Deb |
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November 01, 2007 at 10:44am |
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| Jess, thanks for the reminder! |
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November 01, 2007 at 10:50am |
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Don Knotts is funny !
Hey Voice...... Give me a Candy Bar !!!! |
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Gene |
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November 01, 2007 at 10:58am |
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Well, I wasn't a pineapple - didn't dress up to hand out candy.
We had only about two dozen kids come through. Each got to take a small handful of candy from the bucket.
The neighbors down the street who attend our church came as "Dash" from the Incredibles and a character from Zelda (the video game). We had a number of witches, ballerinas, devils, skeletons and pirates.
I think it's great that the kids can make fun of scary things for one night out of the year. There's enough scary stuff out there that counts. |
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November 01, 2007 at 11:04am |
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Cathy, I want a candy bar too!
Gene, too bad you didn't dress up to hand out candy, but at least you had some little beggars come to your door. I didn't see one ghost or pirate or ballerina out here in the country... |
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Gene |
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November 01, 2007 at 11:33am |
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Deb,
When I lived in Canal Winchester we always got tons of kids and all sorts of costumes. Has Ohio changed that much in a dozen years? What sort of characters did you see? |
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Deb |
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November 01, 2007 at 11:43am |
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| Gene, I am sorry, I should have been more specific...we live out in the country, so we don't get ANY trick or treaters. I really miss that about living in town, but I still love country living. |
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Gene |
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November 01, 2007 at 12:00pm |
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| THAT I understand. I'm not sure if you know where canal Winchester is located (just south of Columbus) but we were the first housing development community north of "the country." All the kids from the farming communities would be driven up into town for trick or treat. That's why ewe had about 200 kids come by. |
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Deb |
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November 01, 2007 at 12:11pm |
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| Yes, I know where Canal Winchester is. Good grief, 200 kids! Did you have enough candy? |
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Gene |
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November 01, 2007 at 12:31pm |
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| We ran out of candy one year and started giving out pennies. |
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Deb |
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November 01, 2007 at 12:39pm |
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| Pennies? Not quarters? Or apples? :) |
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Gene |
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November 01, 2007 at 12:49pm |
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For cryin' out loud. It was fifteen years ago. A penny was actually worth something then. lol
(and we gave out all the apples and we still had kids coming) |
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Deb |
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November 01, 2007 at 1:07pm |
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MH, too funny :)
Gene, I'm just giving you a hard time. Pennies don't mean much anymore. Kids today would probably throw them at you! lol |
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A penny was worth something before? When? Not in my generation!!! LOL
My church had a 'penny' carnival and played games, did crafts and had a huge campfire and ate smores together - plus they all got loads of candy. I was home sick and did not hand out candy. God has clearly placed it upon our hearts not to celebrate halloween. I sat in bed with my puppy and I felt a 'heaviness' upon me (not from me being sick), but from me hearing the people outside... the teenagers talking about freaky stuff etc., My heart was sad. I had this intense feeling of not liking the world very much lastnight! Seriously. My puppy, who is usually "Ms. Barky" did not bark once lastnight... instead she snuggled close to my side. That is my least favorite day of the year. All night long I had nightmares and had to bind up Satan from trying to attack me. It was a restless night but I am victorious in the morning! Jesus has already won that battle for me! |
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| Sorry, also Deb, here's a star for an excellent blog! Much love girl. |
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Deb |
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November 02, 2007 at 10:54am |
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Kelly, I remember one year I was living in Michigan, and my husband was gone the night they had the Trick or Treat in our neighborhood, and so I didn't hand out treats, because I was there alone. I remember hearing the kids outside, and they were just going crazy! lol I guess some people get a little carried away on Halloween.
Oh, and when I was a kid, we could buy a long stick of bubble gum for 5¢, and I remember penny candy too. One piece for a penny. (Really, I am not THAT old, am I?) |
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| Deb; I remember 5cent bubble gum and a McDonald's icecream cone for 25 cents. I guess I am that old! lol |
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| LOL MH Guitarist! Thanks for the laugh |
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Deb |
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November 02, 2007 at 11:13am |
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Yes MH Guitarist, thanks for the laugh. I can't believe it is November already. Our weather here in Ohio is still pretty nice! Usually we have had snow by now!
Kelly, Just like I can't believe it is already November, I can't believe how old I am. I don't feel that old. lol |
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Cathy |
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November 02, 2007 at 11:24am |
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A Penny !!!!!!!
I would have thrown an egg at your house | |
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