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How to Read the Bible without becoming a Wacko
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Mike n Laura
October 18, 2007
Those who are willing to learn from what the Holy Spirit has taught others down through the ages about the Bible are often the most balanced and faithful to the truth.

This is worth re-emphasizing. For some reason, there are always a few folks who come along claiming the entire church is apostate, and only they know the mind of God. I hope this blog gets wide readership. Thanks Grant. ~mike
Mike n Laura
October 18, 2007
Grant, is this a friends only post?? It isn't coming up in the active blogs list. Please check your settings!
Lourdes Morales
October 18, 2007
A golden rule of Bible Study (read "exegesis") is just that. Too often we want to overcomplicate Scripture with some high falutin' theory of numerology, prophecy or some esoteric secret meaning, as if God can't speak plain. He can and he does.

WOW.  Thank you!  I hope many people read this blog.  Sometimes we as human make God's Word sooooo complicated.  If God's purpose for our life is found in Jesus, and we learn about Him through the Bible.... then why would He complicate it by hiding the real message???  Lourdes ;-)
Gene Boecker
October 18, 2007
Grant,

I hope that everyone who reads THIS blog also reads your prior one about finding the right Bible translation.  Unless we understand the Greek and Hebrew original text (or that Biblical scholar whose feet we're at does) we will tend to apply a local language bias toward the text.  It is critical that when we read and study that we do so with the understanding that context is important AND that subtleties in language are also important.

I would add one more running comment.  If the person who is teaching has only ever read or studied what the English version of the scripture says, RUN!  Her I will offer respect to the Muslim life and Hebrew school concept in that they stress the importance of learning the meaning of the writings from the original language.  No don't wear out the concordance.  Wear out Black's Comprehensive Biblical Dictionary.

Great blog, Grant.  A real good reference.
Ian Grant Spong
October 19, 2007
Thanks guys! Yes, a concordance is considered by scholars to be a second rate reference. I was shocked the first time I heard this. Scholars actually use a lexicon more than a concordance, because the lexicon helps you understand the meaning of a word as it is parsed in a particular context, whereas a concordance only gives half a dozen or so possible meanings. How many times have I heard a preacher pick the wrong meaning of a word from a concordance for a particular verse, just because it happens to suit his particular purpose, when the verse in question actually does not back him up when you understand the real meaning!

For instance, lesser educated preachers often quote "here a little, there a little" from Isaiah 28:10 to excuse the substandard practice of Bible flipping, chaining verses together from various parts of the Bible out of context. Some even call this practice swordsmaship as if it is good. It is not. In fact this is a total misunderstanding of the passage. A good commentary will tell you that Isaiah 28:10 in reality refers to incompetent drunken teachers and does not endorse the practice of stringing large numbers of verses together from a concordance.
Kathy
October 19, 2007
Grant, this is excellent!  Thank you for your posts!
Pastor_Ken_and_Aminata
October 19, 2007

Grant,


I gonna come back, again, and again, and again, until I have given you at least 20 stars.  O Lord, let all that ears, and eyes.. let them hear through their eyes.... and learn something!


Pastor Aminata

King of cheese
October 19, 2007
Too late !
Voice in DC
October 20, 2007
Grant, great post...and when combined with a recent one from Kathy, I have to wonder if God is trying to tell us something here...
Pastor_Ken_and_Aminata
October 20, 2007
Grant,

I'm back again with another Star!

Pastor Aminata
Ian Grant Spong
October 20, 2007
Kathy, thanks for the encouragement.

Aminata, thanks for the vote of confidence, but I think the machine only lets you put one star in.

King of Cheese, I love what you are doing. God's way can be fun and you show us that.

Voice in DC, I missed the recent one from Kathy. I'll have to hunt it down.
Brent Johnson
October 21, 2007

Grant, great blog!  First rate!   I love the concordance info.

 Have a Blessed week, your brother in Christ, Brent

Ian Grant Spong
October 21, 2007
Brent, thank you. You have a great week too.

Tropical guy, you are so right. Many things changed. But that is waaaaaaaaay too big a topic for me to comment further here, and besides, different Christians understand that soooooooooo different from each other as well.
Biker Babe 4 Christ
October 21, 2007
I ussually have serveral translations out @ a time...My desk is a "HOLY" mess, & also the floor around it...I'm ussually taking notes & highlighting (Cryola is a great inexpensive highlight that doesn't bleed thru pages...more ways 2 save 4 more offerings after the tithe)....There R a coulpe great books I have recently aquired that has been a great secondary gift 2 me 2 better understand the methaporical parts verses the literal parts....I will add in the following comment 2 come...sorry but I'm gonna have 2 comment on each of your points...That's just the way I am...This, and so many other blogs have been an answer 2 my recent prayer..asking God 2 bring me someone 2 bounce..and listen 2 interpretations of God's word...God answer with more than abundance..a whole cyberland of people 2 do that with...almost all lead by His Holy Spirit..
THE 1ST REFERENCE TECHNIQUE THAT HAS BEEN THE MOST...BY FAR..HELPFUL 2 ME...A GUY IN THE HOSPITAL WITH ME POINTS OUT THE OBVIOUS ONE DAY IN THE HALL WAY AS I'M SPORTING MY DOLLAR STORY KJV...1ST PRAY 2 THE HOLY SPIRIT BE4 U EVEN THINK ABOUT OPENING THE THING...!!!WISE ADVISE 4 ME...JUST WANTED 2 PASS THAT ALLONG.

HEADING TO CHURCH NOW...TTUL IF I MAY???????>>  (-: 
Ian Grant Spong
October 21, 2007
Excellent point BB. Theologians use the word "illumination" to describe the Holy Spirit's lighting of the Scriptures to our understanding. It is a good thing that you said.
Ian Grant Spong
October 21, 2007
Interesting way to say it SW. Thank you.
Ian Grant Spong
October 21, 2007
ALL truth? I envy you. I know so very little and have so much yet to learn.
Gene Boecker
October 22, 2007
Grant, you need another star. . .    *
I wanted to pass along that I heard a parallel to #2.  I thought you might enjoy it:
      Exegete, don't Exacerbate

It was used in the context of declaring what the scripture says not what it appears to say or contradict.  It was written to a single audience and should not be confused with other writings that we possibly hundreds of years separated.
Jess Stuart
October 22, 2007

This is awesome!  Thanks Grant.

Now, to give you a challeng, please explain the following verse:

Chronicles 26:18 (NASB)
At the Parbar on the west there were four at the highway and two at the Parbar

Ian Grant Spong
October 22, 2007
Gene, thanks for that wonderful comment! I really appeciate nuggets of wisdom like that.

Jess, I spent a few minutes examining your question and came up with the following:

1 Chronicles 26:18 As for the court to the west, there were four at the road and two at the court itself. (NIV)

1 Chronicles 26:18 At the Parbar on the west there were four at the highway and two at the Parbar. (NASB) [Footnote: Possibly court or colonnade]

1 Chronicles 26:18 At the open court to the west, four guards were posted on the road and two at the court. (the Message)

1 Chronicles 26:18 Six were assigned each day to the west gate, four to the gateway leading up to the Temple, and two to the courtyard. (NLT) [Footnote: Or the colonnade. The meaning of the Hebrew is uncertain.]

Commentary:
 
The contextual meaning, apparently supported now by the Temple Scroll from Qumran (Williamson), appears to be a road, other outside area, or room adjacent to the temple.

Braun, R. L. (2002). Vol. 14: Word Biblical Commentary : 1 Chronicles. Word Biblical Commentary. Dallas: Word, Incorporated.
Patrick
December 10, 2008
Grant,

This is easily in my Top 5 Best Blogs!  And I love the title...lol...we have all encountered those folks wo can quote every verse and passage but completely loose the message.

Peace Friends,
pa
Gene Downs
October 13, 2009
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Gene Downs
October 21, 2009
Grant, there's a concept that says "let scripture interpret scripture".  What are your thoughts on that in light on what you wrote about #5 the concordance?

I really am just asking.  Thanks.
Ian Grant Spong
October 21, 2009
Gene, that is a very dangerous Bible study technique discouraged by experts. The reason it is bad is that it tends to take scriptures out of context. For instance, one verse says that those in the flesh cannot please God, yet another says that Christ came in the flesh. Taking the two together out of context would prove disastrous. Much false doctrine is formed by this kind of contextual mixing and mismatching.
Gene Downs
October 21, 2009
OK, thanks.  I've heard a lot of people proclaim that approach.  I've usually gone with just trying to read scripture with an end-to-end (whole Bible view) - what's the point that God is trying to get across through the author.  So for me it's been reading it, contemplating it, and praying about it.
Lara Leger
October 21, 2009
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Great practical advice here, and yes, the key is the Holy Ghost leading us into all truth. There have been many a Scripture I've read many times, and then one day "boom!" it jumps out at me and I get a revelation. Now, my revelations are not usually profound, but simple pimple, and perhaps others would see it right off the bat, but no, sometimes that's just how God does it. :-)  I have prayed on things I don't understand, asking the Lord that I would have understanding and not be deceived. So easy to be deceived this day and age.
Ian Grant Spong
October 22, 2009
Gene, that is a good approach. That is called reading it in context and will always be superior to stringing loads of verses together out of context.

Lara, that's been my experience too. To me the Bible is a lifelong study, and thankfully the Holy Spirit leads us gently and as we are ready.