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Is Christianity a Religion or Not?
||October 20, 2007|1024 reads
 

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Mike n Laura
October 21, 2007
Grant, good point. And one I've made before too. Unfortunately the word "religion" has come to be associated with the ritualistic practices and outward manifestations of tradition, rather than simply the heart's devotion, something higher than "self". I don't have a problem with the word.
mstovall2003
October 21, 2007
The word RELIGION, in my opinion, has been defiled by man. According to James it should be PURE and UNDEFILED BEFORE GOD????? to keep oneself UNSTAINED FROM THE WORLD.

Big houses of worship, large cars for the pastors, hugh amounts of money is not how GOD wants us to worship HIM... Give all of that to the ones who need it..if he is blessing your efforts you won't lose anything....  Bickering, postering in his house - that is not what he asked us to do...
Ronnie's blog
October 21, 2007
  Gee, I have to get into this one. As I have said many times that Christianaity is certainly not a religion. First you have to understand how it is word in James l:27  The word being Gr. "threskos", thrace'-kos Strong's #2357 "cermonious" in worship (as demonstrative) ie pious-religious

Religious, being Gr. theskos It means careful follower of the observances connected with ones belief See Strong's #4576 sebomal, seb-om-ahee;

In other words. Religion is the act of celibration. Christianity can not be called that. it is an act of faith. No, it is not a religion. It just don't fit!!  It also fits with "vain" things. Gr "mataios"
See Acts 14:15 people renting their cloths in a cermoious vanity!!
Pastor_Ken_and_Aminata
October 21, 2007
Interesting my findings of the above scripture in James 1:27  is as follows:

 

English Equivalent

New Testament (Greek) Hb/Grk      Pronunciation     English Equiv.

G2356                 thrēskeia             thrā-skā'-ä

                                                                        religion, worshipping

 

G2454              Ioudaïsmos            ē-ü-dä-ē-smo's

                                                                       Jews' religion

 

New Testament (Greek)

G2357          thrēskos                    thrā-sko's

                                                                         religious

G4576         sebō                         se'-bō

                                                             worship, devout, religious

I found that G2356 is used in that scripture which is religion vs. religous  and when used interchangeable with worshipping still applies.  So I concer with you Grant.

Pastor Aminata

Pastor_Ken_and_Aminata
October 21, 2007
Grant,
For me I rather stick with what the bible says,  "pure religion"  or "pure worshipping".

Pastor Aminata
Ian Grant Spong
October 21, 2007
I am of the same opinion Aminata, but I see that others would prefer a translation that uses a different word, and that's okay too. I am not a Bible translator, so I just stick to the ones I've got. I guess my point is that either way is okay and yet I would not want to be making a "religion" out of avoiding the word religion. LOL.
Biker Babe 4 Christ
October 23, 2007
My translation uses the word "Christian" for the word "Religion" in the translation posted.

The verse makes more sense 2 me as translated "Christian"...I wonder what the original ?"greek"? word was.

Religion has so many definitions...it's like the ?...which came 1st..the chicken or the egg...all kinds of debate...but the True answer in my opinion...yes another opinion..is both...the egg was N the chicken...Duhhh (I'm not allow to use the word at home, if "Duhhhh" offense anyone, just let me know, and I will refrain,...best I can....

So back from the chicken/egg "rabbit trail".

I might of misunderstood the statement N the blog....but I say James defined what a "religion" should look like / act like thru these words...By the way...my exectutive summary on the book of James is:  "Words whisper....Actions shout!"  I'm so thankful the Book of James made the top 66 list!!
Jess Stuart
October 23, 2007
To me, it's a Relationship with Jesus.  I can't define it as a religion, becuase I still don't know what religion is supposed to mean.
Gene Boecker
October 23, 2007
Grant,
Great blog (as usual)!  I think that the use of the term is dependent on its application.  As Pastor Animata notes, the use of the term in James is an expression about what it means to worship God.  When we worship we are expressing our religion.  In context - Christianity.

It's a Western concept (and a very non-denominational one) to avoid the word religion because it bring up connotations of structure and rules.  Christianity IS a religion and some people are religious about it!

I refer to what I do as "practice my faith."  My faith is in Christ.  If I practice "religion" as used in James, I am simply worshipping Him.
Pastor_Ken_and_Aminata
October 23, 2007
If I practice "religion" as used in James, I am simply worshipping Him.  Gene that's it exactly.  I understand what others may mean by "relationship" as I use that term myself, however, when the bible says what it is.... it is...  regardless of what man has done to the word, be it twisted, distored it or whatever...    Another thing, we are living in an age, where it's becoming more and more unpopular to say I'm a Christian.  So does that mean I should start calling myself something else just because "society" see being a Christian as a negative?  Heaven forbid!

Pastor Aminata
Cade_One
April 14, 2008

I generally do not see Religion as a bad thing.  I clicked on your blog-post expecting someone bashing religion.  I know many people who cringe at the very word religion.

Religion (rĭ-lĭj'ən)

n. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

The ironic thing is that most people who say they are anti-religion actually do have a religion of sorts.  I really like what you said about using the term legalistic, Pharisaic, or authoritarian rather than Religion -- And I'm Catholic.  As a Catholic Christian I full-heartedly agree with James 1:27. Pure Religion is to visit orphans and widows and to keep oneself unstained from the world, but is not limited to this.  We must also have faith (Rom 3:28, John 3:16, 1 John 4:15); forgive the sins of others (Matt 6:14-15); care for one’s family (1 Tim 5:8); feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the sick and imprisoned (Matt 25:31-46); keep the Commandments (Matt 19:17 and 1 John 2:3-4); love our brothers (1 John 2:10); deny ourselves and pick up our cross daily (Luke 9:23); do the will of the Father (Matt 7:21); eat the flesh and drink the blood of the Son of Man (John 6:51-58); give a return for the talents the Master has given us (Matt 25:14-30); be baptized (John 3:3-5, 1 Ptr 3:20-21); confess our sins (1 John 1:9)...all by the grace of God.