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MulletPreacher
October 22, 2007 at 12:01pm
cause honestly what other race or culture dehumanize it's women in music like our race,,,,,,,,?

man, I don't know about that sentance. You ever seen the video for Honky Tonk Badonkadonk?  But interestin thoughts you got here.
J Chyll
October 22, 2007 at 12:09pm
Well..... I heard "of" the song but never seen it or heard the song it self........but if so, that would be only one instance compared to 95% of the all hip hop songs out today that makes women the "B' word or "H' word or worse.
Pastor_Ken_and_Aminata
October 22, 2007 at 12:35pm

JChyll,

I'm with you %100.  Again this is nothing but the work of the enemy.  And it has a serious foothold within our community.   Bringing awareness to the situation is a start.  Good for you.

Pastor Aminata

Isha Odom
October 22, 2007 at 12:41pm
This is a problem, but as long we purchase, download, tune-in...why would anything change???
J Chyll
October 22, 2007 at 12:55pm

Pastor Aminata Thank you ............and Isha you 100% right I understand that if you offer someone a glass of dirty water they must drink it if there is nothing else around but what we need to do is offer them a clean glass of water and let them descide and unless they are crazy they'll take the clean water LOL I know being a gospel rapper there are MANY, MANY, MANY churches who say I'm as worldly as T.I. or Nelly or Fat Joe or whom ever but if they took time out and listen to such gospel rappers as Tadashii, The Ambassador, T.R.U.T.H., T-Bone and J.Chyll they'll see we're just doing Gods work as we're comanded to do...I wanna see not just our but all communities fill with the Holy Spirit. But I pray that ALL of you guys  are blessed and highly favored.

JessIAm
October 22, 2007 at 1:20pm
The problem with identifying with the ghetto, is you may never see the need to leave it.
Isha Odom
October 22, 2007 at 1:24pm
J Chyll-I personally know some rappers from the group called Ziglag Boys and I got to tell you that they have reached a generation who is not going to be moved by "Amazing Grace"  You just keep it Holy and measure the success by the fruit you bear.   If lives are being changed, then continue on in the Lord.
Pastor_Ken_and_Aminata
October 22, 2007 at 1:31pm

JChyll I know this might sound strange coming from a 54yr old grandma, but I believe that the Lord will raise up more like you... I remember the first time I heard TRUTH and I was floored.   Wow, I got him on my ipod.   I pray the the Lord continue to use you and others for His Glory, you may not get all..... ah but what a good catch you will get... back by the power of the Holy Spirit. 

Jess, I'm not sure what you mean by your statement... I "think" I might understand, not sure though.. the gettho for some may be a place to leave.... since it is where I hail from... it is not a place to leave... rather a place to transform...by the power of the Holy Spirit... there are souls in those ghettos..

Pastor Aminata

J Chyll
October 22, 2007 at 1:34pm
You know JessIAm you're definly right I never thought of it like that way if one don't see that where they are is a bad thing they won't wanna change..if they think that's all they have to look forward too that will set their state of mind...hhmmmmmm good looking out there JessIAm..but now the question is "how do we show them that and I think Isha got the right point stop feeding into and contributing to their negative ways..Like Isha said I wasn't moved by "amazing Grace when I was a Muslim but when I told in one day to check the CD's of The Cross Movement, Tbone, Toby Mac, Skillet.. I was shown the light of Christ almost instantly
Chris
October 22, 2007 at 1:43pm
Thank you for your honesty. It seems that satan is making a point of stealing all respect for everyone and everything. There's no respect for the office of President, for self, for God, life, property....you name it. It's our duty as Christians to turn that around by making a point of respecting and loving everyone we come in contact with. We love because He first loved us.
We should be a blessing to others.....if not...we're not doing something right.
JessIAm
October 22, 2007 at 1:44pm

Your right Pastor Aminata, there are many people whom God loves everywhere.  I don't mean to put down anyone living in a ghetto (BTW, what is a ghetto? - it's a term I hear, but not one I understand - see below).

When someone says hip hop is "voice of the ghetto and black community", they are putting a description and an identity on both a place and a people group.  It implies hip hop is the only voice for the ghetto and black community.  I wonder what the black community - all of the black community, says about his claim.

I have to admit, I've only heard of the ghetto, and I presume what it means from what I've heard.  I'm sure my view is inaccurate, since it comes from what little hip-hop I've heard, and one song by Elvis.

The association I have is: economical depression to the point of oppression; little or no hope for a better life; rampant violence.  I assume there is a need for a better life - that people would be better off living somewhere with more opportunity.  I'd appreciate any correction on this.

I guess what I mean is: if a person identifies his/her self as X, they tend to remain as an X.  I came across this all the time when I tutored math.  Most of my job was helping people believe they could succeed in math.  They had labeled themselves as "people who just couldn't get math".  I had to convince them they could do it (mostly be showing them that keeping a checkbook is an application of algebra).

I hope I've made myself clearer.  I'm sure some of my misunderstanding may come across as offensive.  For anyone who responds, please keep in mind that I'm asking for help understanding, and that I'd love to learn more (God can use me more that way).

Isha Odom
October 22, 2007 at 1:51pm
Chris-true
JessIam-I don't think anyone is offended, we all need understanding about different things we were not exposed to.
J Chyll
October 22, 2007 at 1:55pm
LOL I LIKE IT JessIAm!!!!! (first of all if you read my response I didn't think you were putting anyone down..I thought you were agreeing with me lol) I just think Pastor Aminata was just asking for a little clarity so it's all good here..but the whole math thing was great..and accurate. Now I'm not a math scholar (nor Writting or english by looking at my blogs ha ha) but I just took what you said and made a math equation in my head  if we take said "X" (Unrepentant so called ghetto and hood people) and introduce them to "Z" (teachings of Christ) we would get the formulad (X+Y) = "Z" (a Christian saved and blessed)..... I don't know I'm just silly like that I guess. But bro you got Love here for you
J Chyll
October 22, 2007 at 2:00pm
actually I noticed that I put the wrong letter in the "equation" but yall get it LMBO!!!
Isha Odom
October 22, 2007 at 2:00pm
OK, let me add my corny math in: 1+1=1  one sinner, one savior= one whole man
J Chyll
October 22, 2007 at 2:03pm
true true I like that too...we got a whole little math club going on here Jess
Biker Babe 4 Christ
October 22, 2007 at 2:06pm
Reference Pastor Aminata comment addressed to not just JessIam:

"Jess, I'm not sure what you mean by your statement... I "think" I might understand, not sure though.. the gettho for some may be a place to leave.... since it is where I hail from... it is not a place to leave... rather a place to transform...by the power of the Holy Spirit... there are souls in those ghettos.."

We need to see the "Transformation" spiritually directed by the Holy Spirit...I so appreciate both your comments...because, only when they R both together...does the dialog start 2 get hot...meaning closer the the Spirit fire....
The "Man" is out there 2 "TRANSFORM" certain physical places 2 "???make them Better???", meaning more materialialistically pleasing 2 their eye.  I like to look thru the eye of seeing the people...their souls...their love 4 each other...and their fear & frustration that they have 4 not being able 2 protect their loved ones from the surrounding that is the only comfort zone they know....The Spirit of Truth is the only answer...and I know that Spirit is directin' me just 2 B there 2 walk along side..and 2 appreciate the mutual exchange of Knowledge + love = Wisdom...Prov: 1:7

1:7 The fear of Jehovah is the beginning of knowledge; `But' the foolish despise wisdom and instruction.


JessIAm
October 22, 2007 at 2:26pm

(X+Y) = "Z" (a Christian saved and blessed)..... I don't know I'm just silly like that I guess.

That isn't silly at all J Chyll.  The 'Y' is God's love expressed through Jesus' followers.

I didn't think anyone was offended, but as a non black person speaking in a discussion that is apparently about black issues I want to be as sensitive as possible.

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