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Mission Blue & Biker Babe want 2 know. .Biggest ? of the 21st century church
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Evangelist Keith  Wilson
October 22, 2007

We don't do Church in my opinion, we become the Church! and i do understand what you mean when you say "DO Church" but it is not a statment that comes from the word of God;
 One of the sadest things that is going on in the world today is,
we have tried to Change The mandate for church, for sharing the gosple, and for eveything else, that God has intended it to be.
 As a result we have come up with every way to please people "This does not work because" you can't please every body all the time! God never said "whosoever is pleased"  but he did say "Whosoever will let him come" That "COME" means come to Christ, not to a church building,but we are also told "not to forsake the assembling of ourselves" So what do we do?
 We Go to a Church that is teaching and preaching the word of God! Not to one that is geared to the people and there egos, but one that is gered to God! 
You might think this is hard to do, but the truth is this. IF everyone that names the name of Christ would become the church as Christ see's it  We would do fine.
we would also share the Gosple of Jesus Christ as he commissioned us to do! Mathew 28:18-20 Go!

Marc Brown
October 22, 2007
1 word. "Love"
Patrick Synnott
October 23, 2007
We are the church. We are Gods holy temple. our everyday walk with Christ doing everyday things is church. Do everything with love.
Gene Boecker
October 23, 2007
The way to be church is to live in relationship - relationship with God and with one another.  How we "do " this on the ground is what you're asking.  You need to know what the unchurched want?  have you talked with any of them?  What do they say?  What is "church" to the unchurched?"  Before you can offer an answer, you need to ask the question.

Percussion is right; if you are love, and in the world - as I know you both are - then people will see Jesus in what you do.
Don Swanger
October 23, 2007

Dear BB and MB (or MB and BB),
First of all, let me say that I understand and empathize with your "evil twin" situation...I think.  I saw a bumpersticker once that read "I'm schizophrenic...and so am I". 

To the point of your question, I believe we both ARE the church, and we DO church.  The comments above are all helpful.  A lot of the problems people have with Christians and Christianity right now stem from the fact that the church (which is supposed to be a community of believers in the process of being transformed into HIS likeness) simply does not ACT like the believing community is supposed to act.  What's more, I don't believe most Christians, at least here in the US, CANADA, etc., have any kind of clear idea as to what the church is supposed to look like.  It's kinda like setting out on a trip and not knowing what your destination really is.  How can you possibly map out a route that way?  We've become so accusomed to speaking a private language of God-talk that sounds spiritual but has little or no concrete definition.  Is it possible that God has a very clear and practical notion of what's supposed to be happening, and we're just not "getting it"?  Could it be that what we're called to is so radically counter to what we currently live that we don't even have a grid for grasping it?  Maybe we need a little of of that "having your minds transformed" stuff...and a bit having our hearts softened and spirits renewed as well?!?

I liked what Percussion said.  "Love".  Period.  How that plays out is going to be different in different contexts.  But that's what drives it all.  Love God with everything we are, and love each other the same way.  Press deeper and deeper into intimate relationship with Father, Son and Spirit.  Not something we assent to, but something we do.  Love on Him.  Spend time with Him.  Listen to Him.  Love on each other.  Spend time with each other.  Listen to each other.  Become addicted to being, individually and corporately, immersed in and hammered by His Presence.  And abandoned to being formed and transformed by that Presence and Love and Power and Will.

I hit on this stuff alot on my blog.  See Tribes, or A Safe Place For Crazy People.  God IS in the process of raising up a different kind of church, both inside and outside the walls of the institution. An emerging community of folks who are just growing tired of faith that "kind of" works and "kind of" connects with Him.  Real people who are hungry and desperate for the real thing.  I think the thing that emerges from all this may take forms that are quite unexpected.  Because hungry desperate and abandoned people have been known to do some unexpected and unusual things.

Don Swanger
October 23, 2007
I agree
Biker Babe 4 Christ
October 23, 2007
(<: :>)  Mission Blue...U go babe...LOL  ((<: :>))  Put our heads together...I ereased my comment:  I'm going 2 take Gene's advise a break comments into smaller bites...
Digest...I'll B back....
Marc Brown
October 23, 2007
Mission Blue-  Tell your friends that don't go to church because of Hypocricy, Judgemental, and Holier than thow attitudes that they can find that at McDonalds too.  Are they going to quit going there?  If they already don't go there then pick a place that they like to go.  The point is you can find that kind of stuff anywhere.  Thats NOT a good reason to not go to church.  I used to have that idea about church too.  People make up the church.  That means that like people the church has its own personality.  There is one out there that will suit them but they might have to shop for it.

PJ
Ragland Jebaraj
October 24, 2007

Which ever Church you go to is the church you have been called to.  If you think the church you go to is right then so be it.  If you think the church we go to is the wrong one then, you know what to do to make it right. Go ahead and change it.

The problem is not that.  We are dealing with people. We have to imitate as Jesus did.  Church is for sinners to be brought in and overhauled. They have to be set right. Once set right they become the temple of God.  It is not a court where some decide that the other needs to be sent to eternal fire and eternal life. Reserve that for Jesus.

Go into the church get healed and tell others where their soul can be healed.

Gene Boecker
October 24, 2007
Ragland has the right idea.  Church is where two or more are gathered in His name.  We are all sinners and we all need to be collected and grow up together.  I like Percussion's comment about McDonald's.  Too true.  We're dealing with people here.  People are flawed.  Oh, isn't that the reason for Christ's salvation in the first place?

But I still like the original question - how do we gather as a body of believers in a more authentic way that reached the people of THIS generation rather than those of the 1950's?
Biker Babe 4 Christ
October 24, 2007
(<: :>)  777eli...I missed U....I'm Sooooo glad U came N2 this blog 4 comments...You are a precious voice 2 my ears...and wisdom speak 2 my mind....!!
Biker Babe 4 Christ
October 24, 2007

Hi…My name is Biker babe and I’m a sinner!! Yes..I confess,,,I M addicted 2 sin…But, I M currently in recovery “Just 4 Today”

So Mission Blue  I M back per your  request:

                         I’m going to start at the bottom comment and work my way up….

That’s the way I am….

 

Gene…I’m old school….B.C….1st Century…Rockin’ 2 the Classics

James 1:27 The religion which is holy and free from evil in the eyes of our God and Father is this: to take care of children who have no fathers and of widows who are in trouble, and to keep oneself untouched by the world.  

2 Samuel 6:22  Biker babe’s summary….I’ll make a fool out of myself with no self condemnations…if my actions give Paise and shows adoration 2 my God….!! 

Biker Babe 4 Christ
October 24, 2007

Ragland…A bery wise aPastor once told me….”Don’t runnn…1st try 2 change it….God will release U when it is His timing…”

U on par with 1 of my favorite “Spirit man” list….(Top 10 U R)

 

And…A-men…on your whole blog comment…A-men

Biker Babe 4 Christ
October 24, 2007

Sent:  à

 

(<:  :>)  Percussion & Tropical -à>

Some of the coolest “Church” services I’ve attended have been in the “Duct Tape” aisle of Wal*Mart….We, as the “Body of Christ”…ie, need to B a walkin’ tent…

2 Samuel 7:4-7


7:4 Now that night the word of the Lord came to Nathan, saying, 7:5 Go and say to my servant David, The Lord says, Are you to be the builder of a house, a living-place for me? 7:6 For from the day when I took the children of Israel up out of Egypt till this day, I have had no house, but have gone from place to place in a tent. 7:7 In all the places where I went with all the children of Israel, did I ever say to any of the judges of Israel, to whom I gave the care of my people Israel, Why have you not made me a house of cedar?


 


housin’ the “Ark of the Covenent”  ie…New Testament’s Holy Spirit Nside of us…the parts of the Body of Christ in the world…maybe…maybe not….What U say??

Biker Babe 4 Christ
October 24, 2007
Don't B buildin' with Brick & Mortor till U know what the purpose of the insides R.2 B  ==> ...IT COULD B BUILD WITH THE WRONG MOTIVATIONS...AND BECOME AN EMPTY TOMB INSIDE...WITH NO GOSPLE EXPLAINATION THAT CHRIST HAS RISEN..He HAS RISEN INDEED...THE VOICE OF TRUTH MUST BE INSIDE THE BRICK & MORTOR BUILDING 4 IT 2 FUNCTION AS A TENT PLEASING 2 God.!!!
Biker Babe 4 Christ
October 24, 2007

Percussion…U can relate & appreciate I bet….As a drummer U R more likely aware of the latitude of venues…..”IMPACT MOMENTS”  can & should happen everwhere…=è

Like…talkin’ about God in the “Duct tape” aisle of Wal*Mart…è  God as it relates 2 the new purple duct tape from 3M..todays purchase 4 a memorial service @ church..but I say…Celebration of new birth today @ church….People R blown away when U acknowledge NO FEAR…on the “death” subject…Most think of….”The Lake of Fire” …Read Jack H’s blog…it is great (Go Tiger…Jump N anytime  ((<:  :>))  Don’t have Mission Blue turn N2 “Code Blue” 4 lack of your wisdom “AIR”…

Biker Babe 4 Christ
October 24, 2007
Mission Blue  (<:  :>)  I changed my ICON 4 U ....
Riddle me this  ... and don't go "Code Blue" on me unless the Tiger or cubs R their 4 U...
Is...NOT..."DOING CHURCH"...a bad thing  (ie why is Not going 2 church looked as a bad..as N Big Bad Wolf,,,thing????

Now hear me out...I know U have ears...
If Not doing church was a bad thing...where would "mystics" come...and reformers like Martin Luther...& Martin Luther King Jr.  ?

The power 2 propell Martin Luther out of the Catholic Church N2 the catholic church Bgin'


Riddle me this Mission Blue  (<:  :>)  Is the church choir singin':

Or better way 2 put it...Do U want to hear the church choir sing:

"Oh my God...bless my Soul"

or

"Oh my Soul...Bless the Lord"

I think this starts to explain the 20th and hopefully not the 21st century problem with what some call "Organized Christian Religions" that they want no opart of..and want 2 find a Church 2 have people equipped 2 choose out of intellecual honestly...the 1 that works 4 them...
Yes...I know...PC not short enough...Forgive me...LOL
Biker Babe 4 Christ
October 24, 2007
Jack...I thank my Lord and Savior 4 people that think like U...cause I thank Christ 4 He is the reason 2 think that way...What a beautiful instrument U R allowing Christ 2 toot His horn thru U...Praise B & all Glory 2 God the Father, Son & Holy Ghost....A-men...Yes...A-men

Thanks 4 commentin' Jack....it means a whole lot 2 me...really...really... (>:     Like my "Holy
Spirit Voice" picture of myself...I changed the icon special 4 Don S. comment on comment...BUT..I had 2 jump N 2 say something 2 U first...so I give U and him both this icon...My photos have a bigger version...if U coureous 2 check it out...
Biker Babe 4 Christ
October 24, 2007

U like Don S.???

 

Don S.  I changed my Icon 4 U 2…

Act like Act2: 41-47 & James 1:7

 

I some how wonder if (Gene,,,maybe U can address this) the “Synods” of this “dis-organized, young Christian Brick & Mortor 501c3) truly realize this “UNDERSTANDING” would B a good project 4 them to put on a front burner…B4 the people hungry 4 the “real thing” (Christ Jesus as Lord & Savior) will not starve Bcause they R relyin’ on the IMPORTED coke …cause their isn’t the:   domestic coke )“Real thing”)  {C.O.K.E. -  Christ one Kw  existbit}

 

I ain’t N2 traditional “God talk” ..AmI….I feel we have enough of that 2 feed the burb’s a good share of “WHATEVER”….If U think Iam a traditional talker’…talk 2 my hand…MissionN Blue…she my PC diplomate 2 help me stay in the pond….The “evil hand” is allowed to splap so $cents$ N2 me….She knows where I hurt…

Biker Babe 4 Christ
October 24, 2007
This ICON is 4 us Don S...I hope the right 1 comes up this time
Biker Babe 4 Christ
October 24, 2007

I’m jumpin’ around out of order now…See first comment from “Evanglist”

Thanks B 2 God 4 U è To Evangelist: reference: (I give U an A-men and follow-up words on è ) “Whoever is pleased”

 Forget the “High Entertainment Index”Churches today categorically design their services to be man-pleasing services (ministries).  They craft them to tickle the itching ear, and we want them to have a “High Entertainment Index”.  Unfortunately, these kind of meetings have very little of our sacrificial love poured out to Him who alone deserves our ministries, our praise, our worship!  God would rather have moments with a FEW who really love Him than for everyone to come and be entertained. Yet we are hosting a party for God in which we trade presents with each other while totally ignoring Him.   If we as the Church Body of Christ start looking into His face, worship Him, and abide in Him, He will transform us to go out and inside the walls of our church, and take care of the poor, widows, children, homeless, and naked.  We need to change ourselves before we can have ministries adequate for those yet to come not to have to even say, for those that are here right now.  We are not teaching the children of all ages how to die with Christ, so as to be raised into the wonderful, beautiful life in God’s Kingdom that is with us now.  Eternity starts here and now.  Christ died so that we no longer had to stay on the opposite side of the veil.  Christ ripped that veil in two between the holies of holies and man.  Christ did this while He was dying on the cross for the lost sinners in the world.  Eternity is starting fresh each new day.  On this earth we can chose to be inside the walls of His kingdom, or outside of the walls where there is still blindness because of the darkness away from the light of the Savior. Effective ministries can only be built in a well light workshop!
Don Swanger
October 24, 2007
BB: Yes, I definitely like!!  Hey, have you (or anyone else) read Red Moon Rising by Pete Grieg?  Awesome out-of-the-box about doing/being Church and seeing the Glory and Presence of God fall in the streets.  Real stuff.  Raw.  And fairly short on Christianeze.
Biker Babe 4 Christ
October 24, 2007

2 Percussion Man and all those who have rythum in their souls è

 

DRUM ON MAN !!!  (<:  :>)   Acutic or Electronic…God will provide the juice 4 the E-drums Womannn (The e-drums 4 me…so my paintball warrior can unplug me when my rythum goes wrong…LOL … No I’m serious…But I got my Yamaha’s…& I don’t care why….So plug me N 2 this song Percussion:

 WHAT THE WORLD NEED NOW IS ….LOVE….PLAY IT 4 ME ….IF U PLS

Biker Babe 4 Christ
October 24, 2007
Don S...I'll check it out on Amazon.com
Thanks!!!

I changed my icon 4 Percussion.....
Don Swanger
October 24, 2007
That's cool.  I like 'em all.  BTW, do you think people are sometimes put off by believers because we're so grim and proper??  Not you, BB...Or me...or me...  But folks I know who aren't Christian tend to VIEW Christians as all straight lines and color inside the borders and such.  My daughter used to go to church wearing a button that said "On My Planet We Laugh Once In A While".  Don't we need
Don Swanger
October 24, 2007
oops....just love and be real?
Don Swanger
October 24, 2007
So let em watch.  Maybe do your next prayer cell in a parking lot, or over coffee at Denny's just after last call at the bars.  Ask God to give you a 'word' for the waitress and then watch Holy Spirit read her mail.  The best case possibility is that the power of God flows in with you.  Worst case? I bet BB's been thrown out of classier joints than Denny's? ;o<)-
Don Swanger
October 24, 2007
I know I have!
Don Swanger
October 24, 2007

AWESOME.  THEN YOU'RE DOING/BEING CHURCH.  NO?

Pastor_Ken_and_Aminata
October 24, 2007
How do we “do church” in way that will meet people’s needs and spread the
Gospel at the same time? 

We, children of God become Love - people need - Love - Spread the Gospel through - Love
God Is Love - if we are children of God, We become Love on one accord is the true Church of the Living Christ
(there's no ego/selfish/carnal/greedy/ flesh in Christ!)

Pastor Aminata
Don Swanger
October 25, 2007
Thanks, MB.  GTG.  BB, re what you wrote about the synods, etc realizing the hunger of folks for the "real thing":  I had lunch a while back with the pastor of a major megachurch here.  We were talking about just this, and about how a 'service' will move through the process week after week...announcements, worship, collection, sermon, song, benediction, invitation to prayer...and still most folks are up and out the door ASAP.  Regardless of the content of the message or the intensity of the worship.  So I asked, even in church, why do people who behind the scenes have lives just a messed up as yours or mine, come in week after week and hear from God and still walk away rather than doing business right then and there?  He got real quiet, teared up, and said, "I think its because nobody ever gives them permission to be desperate."
Don Swanger
October 25, 2007
Amen!  (Possible Translation: "OK, Lord, Agreed. Let's do it!") ?
reFORMer
October 26, 2007
"Where's the Body?" (1 Cor 12:19)

     The kingdom of God is just God.   Jesus, the only mediator, died to bring us into direct and unmediated relationship with God.  The true servants of God connect the people to their head:  Christ; and, they secure and enlarge that connection.  They bring forth a group led by the gifts, intentionally moving without human headship and preventing any who would take over from doing so in order to have no other Elohim before Him.  As sons of God, we will be led of the Spirit in our meetings, every member participating.  True servants of God bring about a gathering of bodies as the flesh of God in the earth in whom is the Spirit sent in Jesus' name and among whom is their ascended head manifesting as Lord of the meeting.
     This "many...as one...Christ" (1 Co. 12:12) is another form than that crucified Adam who is separate flesh-husk units containing souls.  Their soilish and soulish authority is external (ours is internal), theirs is titled (whereas, we're all just brothers), theirs is official (but, in the bride there are no offices, it's an organic and corporate life-form, Jesus' presence coming into manifestation) and theirs is hierarchical (but we are free and in direct union with our Lord.)
     Jesus defined Gentile (or of the nations, civil) authority as other than the reign of God.  "Their great ones exercise authority over them."  Jesus says that among those under His discipline "it is not so;" not, "it shouldn't be so."  We are the beginning of the end as part of that re-heading all things with Christ ( Eph 2.)  All authority will be abolished (1 Co.15.)  Everything filled and covered"with the glory of the knowledge of the LORD" means nothing can do anything but right and without any influencing authority needed.  "The law is for the lawless."  "Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty."  The mature law is liberty (Jas.1); so, elders preserve the liberty.  Thus it is apparent there are few elders in the churches today.
     When God tells the "story" of the church (mostly in the book of Acts) He never mentions a pastor.  The verb form is used by Paul (in Acts) when he warns the Ephesian elders to be "shepherding" the flock by guarding against those who would rise up from among them and lead away disciples unto themselves.  Who in todays commonly accepted church form is raised up over the others to instruct and discipline them?  Who there today has the keys yet neither enter in themselves nor allow those about to enter to do so?  At the end of the 1500's the Lutheran Pietists began to call their priests "pastors."  Now no one else can get a crumb.  All the trouble in Corinth and Paul' last court of appeals is the local church "brethren" (Greek not masculine, but neuter, "those from a common womb,") a word occurring 350 to 400 times.  Of the 16 times "pastor" (poimen) occurs, only once does it relate to other than those who care for woolly quadrupeds (4 times) and the person of Jesus Himself, the Good, the Great Shepherd.  That once is plural and connected with instructors as "shepherding-teachers."  It shouldn't be extracted without warrant from the Eph. 4:11 list and used to justify our modern practice.
     How can so much of what claims to be God's defy the first commandment (by having other mediators) and prevent the second that is like unto it?  58 times in the New Testament "one-anothering" is commanded.  Just try it about 11:30 Sunday morning and you'll find out soon enough what else the ushers are there for!
     In our workshop gatherings, to fulfill God's intention to make each of us in His image and likeness, we are all to exercise to our own spiritual development and critique each other's expression.  This includes public correction where everybody learns and those mistaken find they're loved; unlike when they're separated as a first Adam, subordinated privately to another as controller.  We are to come into all that He is and does.  When we were "born-again" the person of Jesus came into us.  We received Him, not just a part of Him.  He's the apostle, prophet, evangelist and more beyond the 4 categories (of Eph. 4:11) called the 5-fold ministry.  They're not an hierarchical stack of successively greater authorities, the apostle the biggest boss of them all.  These functions are in us if He is in us.  They aren't static callings as when many, with their mind on the pulpit think this one's an evangelist, that, a teacher, and so on.  Rather, the measure is Christ the Word who is the Image and Glory of God.  We're called out unto Him.   
     The shepherding teachers increase in evangelizing, then deepen in the mystery to be more prophetic.  Ongoing growth in experience produces those "specially sent ones" who in turn pursue victory over death.  It's just a matter of growing up.  As our availability to Him increases we progress on from one degree of expression to another greater ability to impart Him until we ALL come to the fullness of Christ.
     But, instead of trusting the Holy Spirit, we've become audiences for professional preachers.  I WENT TO CHURCH BUT THE CHURCH WASN'T ON THE PROGRAM!  Not size of crowds, nor how well I can prophesy or see those healed I lay hands on; rather, my measure of ministry is how much of the expression of Christ I can raise up in others.  I don't care how anointed, how gifted and knowledgeable the man on stage is.  He's not the body of Christ!  and, JESUS WANTS HIS BODY BACK!!!

James Rohde     reFORMer
Cracked Pot
October 27, 2007
BB4C checkin' N...
Don't know how long I'll last....Havin' somewhat of a rocki track, and hurdeled filled time of it...so..I pop N & OUT & let Mission Blue...Do...Thanks B 2 God MB is a doer 4 God...other wise...????Do I need 2 draw U a picture??
Cracked Pot
October 27, 2007

Don S.  – I got so many comments on U…I don’t know what 2 do….I NEED some time 2 ooooozzzzzieieiei the juice of the fruit….flow out of me….I hope 2 comment on U soon….I just need to full up the Holy Spirit air, 2 diver deeper N the dumpster 2 answer U….LOL….Oh Ya….N my day….well up 2  the previously 20 days…I proundly take the boot 4 my Daddy so 2 His praise.

 

Some need to learn that worship is not about them….Cut loose…foot loose…get on your dancin’ shoes?????

If we were all worshipping God…no one in God’s House would B getting’ offended on the distractions Biker babe B makin’ N & out of her pew….

 

So…boot me out…I want to B free of the box…so as to float in the Kingdom sphereee  where the air B thin…& heavy….& wet all @ the same time…and U get high on the anti-life…lovin’ N the fog…of the CHRIST!

 

Oh, Don S. & anyone with ears tuned into BB4C…FM (Forsaken Magic 2 the children out there)….I been told by daddy 2 write a blog called  ?  I’m not hearin’ the exact words yet…but?  Something like…I don’t want YOUR KIND of love ) > : 

It’s about the brothers n sisters n the church w/the totally wrong dictionary n their hands…mislovin’ n the name of Christ….Ouch….I’m not sure what the H.S. is going 2 type…but, I think I B 1 2 read it….U know….? Or do U believe????

(a post-modern blog waiting 2 happen…it’s all good n “my neighborhood”)  We got special air piped n here…

 

Don S.  U still there?  I need 2 think!!

 
Cracked Pot
October 27, 2007

reformer –

I sum the comment up as – God will have a time where there is no more “1 man shows”….did I get it?

Your comment means a lot more than meets the 1st take read…God is a God of “re-does”…I M gonna re-do my read on your comments several times…cause I get more out of it each time I read it….Thanks 4 having layers…Biker babe call U “Onion”?  What say U reFORMer?  U ok w/BB4C nickname @ U ???  LOL

MB..clued me n 2 check out your bloggg on U site...MB clue me n 2 the layers R infinity and Byon.....on...on....rollin'...rollin'...rollin'...YeHa!!!!  Cravein' a "Chuck wagon" here...are TV dinners every comin' back...not w/R "microwave" soceITy...sp?sp....

Cracked Pot
October 27, 2007
Oh...INTRODUCTIONS PLEASE....I NEED U 2 MET MY SISTER N CHRIST FROM THE NEW CYBER CHURCH IN THE 63115 ZIP CODE   CHECK-OUT IMMANUEL LUTHERAN...SO WE B SHARING A COMPUTER...& THE ICON IS RIGHT ON 4 ME ( BB4C ) & YES DON S (me 2)..so , there,,,I've tried 2 explain...
WHATEVER!!  I really hate that word.....
Cracked Pot
October 27, 2007
Pastor Aminata

Dito on MB comment back 2 U...
I real like your stuff
(Gotta love everything of God...but 2 like something is strictly my choose...the"I LIKE" compliment is a biggy n my land...
Cracked Pot
October 27, 2007
Jack,
Pls. commenting "godly man"....U help my soul 2 sing...Thanks!!!

I'm sign' out 4 now...God knows when I'll B Back....w/"TOTAL RECALL" ??? Mars...Rent the DVD if U need a picture....
Biker Babe 4 Christ
November 04, 2007
Don S.   Amazon just delivered "Red Moon Rising" with another one called ?"Vow/s"?
I hope 2 read soon...and then....

PS...Hi everyone (>:
Windsurfer
November 07, 2007
I think BB4C blog on Immanuel posted lately, shows the type of people that need 2 start acting N the churches around the world, 2 answer the question N your blog.  I cut and paste below.  I think the USA is N the most desparate need of this Universiyr SOHK type Training.
BB4C, please blog that Train4HumanFactors stuff you talked to me about....Think about it..ok?

Cut & Paste now: