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Pastor Tim
November 05, 2007 at 9:52am
very good question
Pastor_Ken_and_Aminata
November 05, 2007 at 10:18am
Evangelist Keith,
That's an excellent question.  Since I have a "Word Channel"  allow me to take one day and listen, and get back with you on what I've heard.   

Pastor Aminata
Prophetic School
November 05, 2007 at 10:23am
Jesus Christ of Nazareth is not preached from the pulpits but another Jesus i.e. Jesus of America or Jesus of India is preached from the pulpit..
Pastor Elam
November 05, 2007 at 11:29am
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Evangelist Keith Wilson
November 05, 2007 at 11:41am

I was going to wait a while before i said something, and i won't say much here! But,
 Pastor Elam,done went and got me started! All i will say for now is (WOW)!
Thank you for that list and i'm sure it's longer.

Pastor Elam
November 05, 2007 at 12:38pm
The average Pastor can't preach against sin. He can't tell folks they are going to hell if they keep living in sin. He can't tell folks that homosexuals and lesbians are not welcomed to practice that lifestyle while being apart of their fellowship. He can't tell folks to not club, party, drink, etc. He especially can't get political and speak out against abortion, gay marriage, aids, etc. And he will NEVER preach against the entertainment industry of America!! The pastor usually has a handful of messages that all center around one thing.........BLESSINGS! not JESUS!!! They have to remix the blessings message 52 different ways to have a sermon each week. And when they run out of ways to tell you that you are about to be blessed, they invite preachers in that specialize in robbing and stealing from God's people these guest speakers come in and preach the same thing, but with a different flavor. Then they take all your cash and go in the back to count it.
This is what i have seen in my travels.

2 Timothy 3:1-7
3:1 But be certain of this, that in the last days times of trouble will come. 3:2 For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, uplifted in pride, given to bitter words, going against the authority of their fathers, never giving praise, having no religion, 3:3 Without natural love, bitter haters, saying evil of others, violent and uncontrolled, hating all good, 3:4 False to their friends, acting without thought, lifted up in mind, loving pleasure more than God; 3:5 Having a form of religion, but turning their backs on the power of it: go not with these. 3:6 For these are they who go secretly into houses, making prisoners of foolish women, weighted down with sin, turned from the way by their evil desires, 3:7 Ever learning, and never coming to the knowledge of what is true.


Prophet Jay
November 05, 2007 at 2:34pm
As a Prophet I have an obligation to speak as the Spirit leads and to minister accordingly. As a Pastor I teach the brethren I disciple the truth. There is no truth outside of Jesus, and if the Spirit is speaking, the Spirit makes known to us what Jesus has to say to the church. I am a witness of the evidence of discipleship because of the example I set. When we allow the love of God to flow from us without restriction it will produce a response that cannot be spoken against. The fruit of sound doctrine will speak for itself. Shalom
Mike n Laura
November 05, 2007 at 2:43pm
Keith, Jesus is being preached from our pulpit. And has been preached from the pulpits of every church we've attended regularly or been a member of. They are out there, many of them in fact, but they must be sought after to be found. As Jesus must be sought after.

Is pastor Elam speaking against televangelists? (Just curious...)
Evangelist Keith Wilson
November 05, 2007 at 3:49pm
Mike i can't speak for Pastor Elam, But in my view i say "If the shoe fits those people than thats who it refers to"! And i am happy to hear that your Church preaches Jesus also the ones you have gone to, "Thats great news"
Laura- I think i understand what you are saying and i want to be sure, you said
" as far as the stories and what not, no" you said your Church dosn't focus on them.
Maybe i better ask the question in a different way. ( Are Churches still preaching the Gosple of Jesus Christ? The Death , burial,Resurrection.
Profit J-
3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Dani_EL_YaHWeH_Judge
November 05, 2007 at 4:37pm
Well Evangelist Wilson the way I look at this question is a fulfillment of what Christ said would be a sign of His return and that was many and I repeat many shall come in my name saying (or preaching) I am Christ (or of Christ) and shall decieve many. So when I see these things occurring it comes as no surprise. My question if you don't mind me asking you and all who can respond How Do We Tell Who is and Who isn't of Christ. Just something for us to ponder on seeing that many are going to be decieved by these false prohets. May God continually bless you and your ministry in Jesus name Amen.
JessIAm
November 05, 2007 at 4:42pm

I've been in about 12 Churches in my life and heard surmons in them.  All but one of them preached Jesus, the Biblical Gospel, the need for salvation, and God's goal - to conform his followers to the image of Christ.

The one church spoke of the superiority of Man, and rewrote Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring to be something that praised the moon landings (no joke, it actually did).  I only went once, because I was visiting my Grandfather.

Evangelist Keith Wilson
November 05, 2007 at 4:57pm
7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Dani-
your point is well taken, His WORD is being fulfilled, He said these things would come to pass!
"How can we tell who and who isnt of Christ?" the scripture above should take care of that.
JessIAm
November 05, 2007 at 4:57pm

Howdy Daniel, 

My question if you don't mind me asking you and all who can respond How Do We Tell Who is and Who isn't of Christ.

Here's my take on it, based on the parable of The Wheat and the Tares (tares = darnel in Amplified translation):

The Man:      Jesus
Believers:    Wheat
Unbelievers:  Darnel (aka tares)
Servants:     Angels

Matthew 13:24-30   (Amplified Bible)
24  Another parable He set forth before them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field.
25  But while he was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed also darnel (weeds resembling wheat) among the wheat, and went on his way.
26  So when the plants sprouted and formed grain, the darnel (weeds) appeared also.
27  And the servants of the owner came to him and said, Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? Then how does it have darnel shoots in it?
28  He replied to them, An enemy has done this. The servants said to him, Then do you want us to go and weed them out?
29  But he said, No, lest in gathering the wild wheat (weeds resembling wheat), you root up the [true] wheat along with it.
30  Let them grow together until the harvest; and at harvest time I will say to the reapers, Gather the darnel first and bind it in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my granary.

The biggest thing that strikes me as a believer: the wheat doesn't worry about whether the plant next to it is wheat or darnel.  It just keeps growing.  The servants (angels) are responsible for telling the two apart.

In my view, it isn't my responsibility to tell who is or is not of Christ.  I'm not even qualified to judge that.  In fact, in Romans 8:16, the Bible says we need God to tell us that we are God's children.  If I can't know without being told, how can I figure it out for someone else?

Rom 8:16
The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God,

Actually I dislike this kind of question.  What is the point of knowing the difference?  Would we throw all the people who aren't of Christ out of the Church?  What if God's plan is that they aren't of Christ right now?  I guess I don't see any practical need to know.  The only thing we can use the answer for is, what, to pat ourselves on the back?

Evangelist Keith Wilson
November 05, 2007 at 5:10pm
Jess- I think you and i were writting at the same time i was responding to Dani,
i think this Scripture above  will aid you in some way( You shall know them by there fruit!)
also
5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

You know if you are a child of God!
 Gloria Odom
November 05, 2007 at 5:20pm
Amen! Jess and Evangelist, I agree with you both, need I say more.
Dennis M J Yerger
November 05, 2007 at 5:21pm
Daniel, I may be able to answer your question. The Bible says that you shall know them by their fruits. If a preacher is preaching Sunday after Sunday and there is no spirtual growth to show for it, one must wonder if that preacher is being led of God. If the Truth is being preached, someone will be changed by it. God's Word will not return to Him void.
Tony
November 05, 2007 at 5:37pm

No Pastor, Jesus is not asking to be preached. When we study God's word it is quite clear that the commandments is to go make deciples. The first and formost commandment of Christ is to love God and the next is simaler, to love one another. Then we are commanded to go make deciples. Are we, the Church, His body preaching Jesus to the world by how we act and how we live and how we love?  He said if we lift Him up that He would draw all men unto himself. Pastors are to equip thier congragations to do the work of ministry, often time from the pulpit. So what I see is that we are commanded to preach Jesus from all areas of our lives, everywhere we go, not just the preacher from the pulpit. And yes, at least in my church Jesus is being preached from the pulpit....

Peace be with you! 

Evangelist Keith Wilson
November 05, 2007 at 5:55pm
Tony- i believe you and i are on the same page here, ( He commanded us to Go!) and that is everywhere, in our walk, in our talk everywhere!
 We are to equip the Saints by teaching them the Mandate that was set fourth in mathew 28; 18-20, so where is this teaching being taken place at? In the Church! So because it is a command and because people are going to hear the Word of God in the Church, Why has the Church become so fruitless?
Pastor Elam
November 05, 2007 at 6:40pm
The Gospel Is the death ,burial and ressurection of Jesus. Jesus told his disciples to go into all the world and preach the gospel. If that is not preaching. Jesus what is it? To answer a earlier question I am not against television ministry but I do believe it is hurting the local church. People have a right to send their money to whoever they want but when they get sick and go to the hospital none of those televangelist is going to come and pray for them or visit them.There are also some false ones out there and that is who I am speaking of. These false prophets have begun their shift. They have used the church to get rich and famous. They have stolen their money for enough years to set-up huge financial empires and now it's time to transition. Now, they are all making their move into the world because there, they can preach a Christ-less gospel and live out the pleasures of the flesh without being judged. They can divorce and remarry, be homosexual, party with the world, get drunk with the elite, and never be questioned about their motives or intent because, without Christ in the picture, it really doesn't matter why you do what you do. All along, the church is clapping, praising, and shouting them along without even realizing that they have been robbed, cheated, and lied to the whole time they were sending money to these crooks.
Some body has to say something my aim is not to offend but the word somtimes does that.
 4:12 For the word of God is living, and active, and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing even to the dividing of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and quick to discern the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Somebody has to say something because the standard of holiness has been let down and what is being preached is not causing men to repent, become convicted of sin in fact this is what a lot
of what the televangelist are not preaching.
 Don't preach holiness
- Don't preach against sin
- Don't preach the consequence of sin
- Don't preach Hell
- Don't preach against the entertainment industry of America
- Don't preach against abortion, homosexuality, or fornication
- Don't preach against the influences of the world
- Don't minister effectively to the youth. Just baby sit them with worldly devices.
What would Jesus do? would he cry against leaders that are hypocritical? Now don't call me judgemental call me a preacher of righteousness.

58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and declare unto my people their transgression, and to the house of Jacob their sins. 58:2 Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways: as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God, they ask of me righteous judgments; they delight to draw near unto God. 58:3 Wherefore have we fasted, `say they', and thou seest not? `wherefore' have we afflicted our soul, and thou takest no knowledge? Behold, in the day of your fast ye find `your own' pleasure, and exact all your labors.

4:1 I charge `thee' in the sight of God, and of Christ Jesus, who shall judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: 4:2 preach the word; be urgent in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure the sound doctrine; but, having itching ears, will heap to themselves teachers after their own lusts; 4:4 and will turn away their ears from the truth, and turn aside unto fables. 4:5 But be thou sober in all things, suffer hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfil thy ministry.

Evangelist Keith Wilson
November 06, 2007 at 4:18am

Pastor Elam- Wow and Amen, The teuth must be told and it is our duty to preach the Gosple!

Pastor Elam
November 06, 2007 at 6:42am
16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
Romans 16:17-18 KJV
3:15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. 3:16 Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing. 3:17Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample. 3:18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, [that they are] the enemies of the cross of Christ: 3:19 Whose end [is] destruction, whose God [is their] belly, and [whose] glory [is] in their shame, who mind earthly things.) 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

To mark them means to expose them for what they really or for the good they do .This whole thing of Christianity is about Jesus, and how he came walked as an example of a man with the spirit fully in him HE (JESUS) knew no sin. He was lead by the spirit, and he had compassion
on the people. He got angry about the acts of greed that he seen in the temple. He preached truth
he healed the sick, feed the multitude,even raised the dead. He walked on water, spoke to the wind and the waves and commanded them to be still and they had to obey. The God man took a towel and got down on his knees and showed Pastors how to lead by being humble and washing feet even the feet of the one he knew would betray him. Now that is love. In all that he did that was good he still suffered, was beaten, nailed to a cross and died, was buried in a tomb, and three days later rose with all power in his hands.EXCUSE ME I NEED TO PRAISE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!
MY GOD!!!!!!!!! what else is there to preach about. Materialism!!!!! Your car will get rusty,your house will get old, your friends will leave you when your money runs out,But JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
never fails. No Evangelist I know Jesus is not being preached cause you can't read that and not get delivered, you cant preach the gospel and not see men's lives change. What we are getting from the pulpit today is 12 steps to a miracle.10 ways to get rich ,7 steps to a turn around 5 steps to keep your marriage together. If you preach Jesus and preach him right all of that WILL change and I know this to be true from a personal testimony.
6:25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? 6:26Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? 6:27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? 6:28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: 6:29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 6:30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, [shall he] not much more [clothe] you, O ye of little faith? 6:31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? 6:32(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Evangelist Keith Wilson
November 06, 2007 at 6:49am
Amen Pastor!
Esther
November 06, 2007 at 9:14am
Some very good reading here. Praise God for His children who are not afraid to stand up and speak the truth about our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. I agree there are too many preachers spending time behind the pulpits just preaching a feel good, tickle the ears, prosperity message, and are afraid to preach it, as God says too. The WORD is to be a road map to teach us how to live and guide us to love other's as Christ loves us. The WORD tells us that sin will not enter into God's kingdom and Hell IS REAL!!!! Therefore it is the mandate of all of us to forworn other's of the snares of the enemy and teach the righteous path. I like what David said in Psalms 141:5 KJV "Let the righteous smite me; it shall be a kindness: and let him reprove me; it shall be an excellent oil, which shall not break my head: for yet my prayer also shall be in their calamities." I like that because as we know David was a man after God's own heart and that is how I want God to see me. I welcome reproof and rebuke. It doesn't feel good but I Praise God for it so that I can grow and get even closer to my Lord. I have been told several times through the years after I have preached somewhere that I am too hard, but I still speak it the way God gives it too me and if people don't like what God has to say, then they need to take it up with Him, I am just the messanger. (Especially my family--it is hard sometimes to have the family out in the congregation cause they tend to get annoyed with me and feeling that I am picking on them). I always tell them that while I am under the annointing and speaking God's word it is no longer me as they know me, but I am a vessel God is using to bring His word, so it's nothing personal. One of the biggest things that upsets me is when you hear preacher's saying that if you are poor, you must not be living right in the eyes of God cause we are prosperous. I am not materially rich by anymeans but I have a spiritual riches! God tells me in His word that He would supply ALL my needs and He does. Now if I have a little extra--Praise GOD! but if I don't--Praise GOD!! I am not against anyone for having money but don't tell me that I am not walking in His statutes just because I don't measure up to what you believe a Christian should have, such as money in the bank, a fine fancy home, driving a fine fancy car; you know what I mean? I have what God has allowed me to have and I am thankful, there are so many in this world that has a lot less than me, and besides I can't take it with me, I am just using it here for a little while cause this ain't my home anyways, I'm just visiting for awhile. Amen? Now to the other question: How Do We Tell Who is and Who isn't of Christ. I agree with Jess and Evangelist Keith. We know are brethern by the fruits they bear. Also 1 John 4:1 says: "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether thay are of God: because false prophets are gone out in the world." Therefore we should KNOW who is of God and who isn't, right? This doesn't give us a right to judge cause God will do that but we need to know who is in our churches (teaching & preaching). This doesn't give us a right to shun them either just pray for them and love them. But we are responsible for what we allow to be taught in our churches and it must line up with the word of God or you could be held accountable before God one day. Amen? Well, I guess that is all I have to comment on right now, Love you all and God Bless, Evangelist Esther
Evangelist Keith Wilson
November 06, 2007 at 9:22am
Ester- Your words are spoken like a true sevent of the Lord. Thank you for your input/
Evangelist Keith Wilson
November 06, 2007 at 3:54pm
Jack- You are wise to discern! and i am happy you were blessed by the message!
MaKelly
November 06, 2007 at 4:06pm
EVANGELIST kEITH outstanding blog


WEL WELL  I must say we do know that a lot of what was said is very true concerning churches not preaching Jesus, because I been a lot of places also and you know when the church is not preaching Jesus, that spirit in you will tell you. the church will not groiw and that's called a dead church now don't tell me nobody heard of a dead church, and I don't mean it has to have thousands of mimembers( NO fruit). I must say I came from a good church in New York and it was a full Gospel and if this Bishop was not following the voice of God I would be dead.
Evangelist Keith Wilson
November 06, 2007 at 4:12pm
Well said sister, it is so good to be were the Word of God is preached . One that is preaching Jesus!
MaKelly
November 06, 2007 at 4:21pm

CHURCH

OVERVIEW
A church is a group of persons who come together for the purpose of learning about and worshiping God. Today, “church” is the most common term used for a body of worshiping believers. But that was not always the case. In New Testament times it was a relatively new term. The term appears in only two verses in the Gospels (Matthew 16:18 and Matthew 18:17). Luke used it a lot, however, in the book of Acts, so by then the term must have become more common. Paul also wrote about the church in most of his letters, and it is a common term in the Revelation of John.


WHAT IS CHURCH?
In the Old Testament Israel was simply “the congregation.” The term was also used by early Christians. In fact, it is the actual meaning of the word “church.” Christians often referred to themselves simply as the church or the congregation. (The “of God” part was assumed.) The term could be applied either to all believers in the world or to any local group of them. It meant the total presence of God’s people in a given location. The New Testament often uses the singular “church” even when many groups of believers are included together (Acts 9:31; 2 Corinthians 1:1). The term “churches” is rarely found (Acts 15:41; Acts 16:5). Each group was the place where God was present (Matthew 16:18; Matthew 18:17). God had purchased the congregation with the blood of his Son (Acts 20:28). In the Greek world, the word translated “church” designated an assembly of people or a meeting. This could be a political body, or it could be simply a gathering of people. The word is used this way in Acts 19:32, 39, 41.
The specific Christian uses of this word vary widely in the New Testament.
1. It sometimes refers to a church meeting. Paul says to the Christians in Corinth: “When you meet as a church . . .” (1 Corinthians 11:18). This means that Christians are the people of God, especially when they are gathered for worship.
2. In texts such as Matthew 18:17, Acts 5:11, 1 Corinthians 4:17, and Philippians 4:15, “church” refers to the entire group of Christians living in one place. Often, it refers to the specific location of a Christian congregation. Note the phrases, “the church in Jerusalem” (Acts 8:1), “in Corinth” (1 Corinthians 1:2), “in Thessalonica” (1 Thessalonians 1:1).
3. In other places, house assemblies of Christians are called churches. For example, some met in the house of Priscilla and Aquila (Romans 16:5; 1 Corinthians 16:19).
4. Throughout the New Testament, “the church” refers to the universal church. All believers belong to it (see Acts 9:31; 1 Corinthians 6:4; Ephesians 1:22; Colossians 1:18). Jesus’ first word about the founding of the Christian movement in Matthew 16:18 has this larger meaning: “I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it” (RSV).
The church is a universal reality. But in its local expression, Paul refers to it as “the church of God” (e.g., 1 Corinthians 1:2; 1 Corinthians 10:32) or “the churches of Christ” (Romans 16:16). In this way a common Greek term receives its distinctive Christian meaning. It sets the Christian assembly/gathering/community apart from all other worldly or religious groups.
The Christian community understood itself as the community of the end time. It saw itself as a people called into being by God’s purposes in sending Jesus of Nazareth and his divine presence. So Paul tells the Christians in Corinth that they are those “upon whom the end of the ages has come” (1 Corinthians 10:11, RSV). That is, God had called out of both Judaism and the gentile world a new people. They would receive the Holy Spirit’s power. They were to share the Good News (gospel) of his absolute love for his creation (Ephesians 2:11-22). The Gospels tell us that Jesus chose 12 disciples who became the foundation of this new people. The church was understood as the fulfillment of God’s intention in calling Israel to become “a light to the nations, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth” (Isaiah 49:6, RSV; Romans 11:1-5). This allows Paul to call this new Gentile-Jewish community or new creation “the Israel of God” (Galatians 6:15-16). In this new community the old barriers of race, social standing, and sex are seen to be shattered. Such barriers divided people from one another and made them fit into inferior and superior classes: “There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28, NIV). This one entity is called “the body of Christ.”
Paul is alone among New Testament writers in speaking of the church as Christ’s body (Romans 12:5; 1 Corinthians 12:27; Ephesians 1:22-23; Ephesians 4:12; see also 1 Corinthians 10:16-17; 1 Corinthians 12:12-13). He also calls it “the body” of which Christ is the “head” (Ephesians 4:15; Colossians 1:18). The origin of this way of speaking about the church is not clear. Two suggestions may help reveal Paul’s thought:
1. The Damascus road experience. According to the accounts in Acts (Acts 9:3-7; Acts 22:6-11; Acts 26:12-18), Jesus identifies himself with his persecuted disciples. By persecuting these early Christians, Paul was actually fighting against Christ himself. Paul may have later felt that the living Christ was so identified with his community that it could be spoken of as his “body.” That is, it would be seen as the expression of his real presence.
2. The Hebrew concept of solidarity. Paul was a Hebrew of the Hebrews (Philippians 3:5), and his thinking was thoroughly Jewish. In that context, the individual is largely thought of as a part of the nation as a whole. The individual does not have real life apart from the whole people. At the same time, the entire people can be seen as represented by one individual. Thus, “Israel” is both the name of one individual and the name of a whole people.
The reality of the close relationship between Christ and his church is seen by Paul as analogous to the unity and connection of the physical body (Romans 12:4-8; 1 Corinthians 12:12-27). For Paul, the Lord’s Supper reveals that unity: “The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread” (1 Corinthians 10:16b-17, RSV). Since this is the case, Paul argues, all the functions of the body have their rightful place. Division within the body (i.e., the church) reveals that there is something unhealthy within. This image of the church as the “body of Christ” lies behind Paul’s repeated call for unity within the Christian community.

MaKelly
November 06, 2007 at 4:23pm

WHY IS CHURCH DISCIPLINE NECESSARY?
Titus 1:13 . . . Rebuke them as sternly as necessary to make them strong in the faith.
Church discipline is necessary to maintain strong faith and sound doctrine. Faith neglected can become faith lost.
2 Thessalonians 3:6-15 . . . We hear that some of you are living idle lives, refusing to work and wasting time meddling in other people’s business. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we appeal to such people-no, we command them: Settle down and get to work. Earn your own living.
And I say to the rest of you, dear brothers and sisters, never get tired of doing good. Take note of those who refuse to obey what we say in this letter. Stay away from them so they will be ashamed. Don’t think of them as enemies, but speak to them as you would to a Christian who needs to be warned.
Church discipline is necessary to correct disorder that comes from an undisciplined lifestyle. One dysfunctional member can disrupt the whole body.
1 Timothy 5:20 . . . Anyone who sins should be rebuked in front of the whole church so that others will have a proper fear of God.
Galatians 2:11 . . . When Peter came to Antioch, I had to oppose him publicly, speaking strongly against what he was doing, for it was very wrong.
Church discipline is necessary as a warning to others to live obediently and restore relationship to God and others. Discipline always warns about unpleasant consequences.
1 Corinthians 5:3-5, 13 . . . Concerning the one who has done this, I have already passed judgment in the name of the Lord Jesus. You are to call a meeting of the church, and I will be there in spirit, and the power of the Lord Jesus will be with you as you meet. Then you must cast this man out of the church and into Satan’s hands, so that his sinful nature will be destroyed and he himself will be saved when the Lord returns . . .God will judge those on the outside; but as the Scriptures say, “You must remove the evil person from among you.”
Church discipline is sometimes necessary to remove the cancer of wickedness. If a member is living in sin and refuses to repent and stop and turn away from that sin, that person must be removed from the congregation before the evil infects the whole body. Otherwise, the church would be endorsing sinful acts as a way of life. This is painful surgery, but most surgery is painful. It is important to note that this passage is speaking about those who willfully sin against the words of Scripture as a lifestyle. They refuse, over a period of time, to obey God’s Word. This is not talking about an individual act of sin where repentance is expected and comes quickly.
Evangelist Keith Wilson
November 06, 2007 at 4:38pm
Makelly- You have placed some powerful stuff hear that is well worth the time to read and Study! Thank you for posting it.  Keep on for Jesus and keep on posting.
MaKelly
November 06, 2007 at 4:53pm
OK I JUST TELLING IT FROM THE WORD THE TRUTH
Dani_EL_YaHWeH_Judge
November 07, 2007 at 8:13pm
Bless Yahweh O my soul and all that is within me bless His Holy Name,

                      Wow Evangelist Wilson after posting an answer to your blog and asking a question I had not been back since today 11/6/2007 due to my job but Makelly had told me that this blog was like fire and the responses made me want to jumpout my seat and give God the glory and praise He deserves in the name of Jesus including Bro. JessIAm who may have thought the question I asked was how do we separate who is of Christ and who isn,t even though it was not my question I still thank him for the insight on who will do the seperating and I know it will not be you or I. By any chance I got a plate full tonight and a lot to ponder on so keep on with the soulstirring blogs and may God bless you all in the mighty name of Jesus Amen.

      Dani-EL  which means Yahweh (God) is my Judge
rimosmob
November 17, 2007 at 9:16pm
GOD IS TRULY AMAZING GOD
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