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The Reformed One
July 25, 2007 at 9:01am
Zach & Jessica,
I just went to your first post to find out about the 90-reading plan. Do you know if they have it online anywhere?

I'm doing something similar right now, though not 90-days. I'm trying to read through twice this year. So far, so good.

I found it interesting that you were intrigued by the bird and Abraham. I don't know the significance either, but I made the exact same note when I read it through this last time. Very funny!
Zach and Jessica
July 25, 2007 at 9:19am

You can go here for the Bible in 90 days reading plan. I also have not quite kept on the 90 day schedule, but I will make it through the Bible in less than a year. If you stayed on the 90 day plan you could read the Bible about 4 times per year ;)

I really thought that passage was strange...glad to know I'm not alone :)

Dr Wilson Morales
July 25, 2007 at 9:48am
Z & J,

All I can say is WOW!!!  I just went for the reading plan and am programming my IPOD to do it as such.  I love it!!!  Thank you for such a challenge.  I plan to ask folks in my congregation to join me on this 90 day journey.

Again, thanks!

Dr. W.
Zach and Jessica
July 25, 2007 at 9:52am
Awesome! I just finished day 69 and it has been a great experience. You might not retain all of the information but you definietly get a better overall picture of what God has done. It truly is amazing!
Zach and Jessica
July 25, 2007 at 9:57am
Also, DW, it would be great to have the accountability that the congregation would give to you and each other. I hope it goes well :)
Eric
February 06, 2008 at 10:07am

I'm going through the Bible in 365 days with a bunch of friends.  We started January 1.  I'm in Exodus and Matthew right now.

I thought the birds odd as well.  At the least, it provides some interesting narrative color.  It appears Abraham cut the animals in the middle of the day, but God didn't pass through them until very late (11 PM?).  It would make sense that vultures would have smelled/seen the carci within a few hours and attempted to eat them.

I am also extremely puzzled over the curse of Canaan due to Ham.  Help plz.  Sorry for the necropost.

Donna S
June 10, 2008 at 5:57am
I am also reading the bible, but in a year plan. I was taking a free online course, but having trouble with thier questions, so I am just enjoying the read and learning experience!

I love questions and searching for the answers LOL so here is your answer to why clean & unclean;

Clean or unclean had to do with the levitical priesthood and was all associated with analogy. It was not defined until Moses' time, but obviously God made the distinction with Noah also. Only clean animals could be sacrificed to God, an analogy that a person needed to be "clean" from sin before their sacrifice to God would be accepted. That is why the only acceptable sacrifice that God would accept was Jesus Christ because He was the only sinless person.

In old Jewish law ( look at the Old Testament ) Jews were only allowed to eat certain animals. They were classified as clean and unclean. I don't know how they determined this but you can look on the internet. I believe fish were ok but anything that was a "bottom feeder" wasn't. Pork was unclean, as was anything with a "cloven hoof"

clean/unclean was to determine what was safe to eat.

Being deemed an unclean animal isn't a death sentence -- they have the right to exist, and be treated humanely -- the clean/unclean determination is for guidelines as to which animals are good to eat


Thanks for the questions this was something i didnt even think about but now that I found the answers, it makes sence , as later on in the old test. u will see them talk about clean & unclean.
Look forwadrs to reading the rest of your posts , it helps me to better understand .
God Bless Donna
Donna S
June 10, 2008 at 6:06am
 why Noah curses Canaan instead of Ham?

In the Hebrew language it was common for them to say, "lie with..." or "see their nakedness." This was a polite way of saying having sexual relations. Thus, by interpretation we find out that Ham slept with his own mother.

Before the flood there didn't seem to be a problem with birth defects resulting from intercourse with siblings. However, after the flood defects started to occur. So one possible theory of what was wrong with Canaan was that he was born with birth defects.



Lev.20:11) And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

(Lev.18:8) The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness.

Canaan was the child of Ham and his mother or Noah’s wife.

Whatever took place between Ham and Noah, why did Noah curse Ham's son Canaan, when Canaan is nowhere mentioned as having done anything? The Bible does not specifically answer this question. Ham was Noah's youngest son, and Canaan was Ham's youngest son. Perhaps Noah cursed Canaan because it is more painful for a father to see his child suffer than it is for a father to suffer himself. The other possible explanation is that Canaan was somehow involved in the incident, thereby bringing Noah's curse upon himself.
Donna S
June 10, 2008 at 6:13am

Why does the scripture tell us, in Gen. 15:10-11, that the birds of prey came and Abram had to drive them away?


Again, instead of rebuking Abram, the Lord gives him some directions. In 15:9, the Lord said to him, “Bring Me a three year old heifer, and a three year old female goat, and a three year old ram, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon.” These are the same “clean” animals that are used later in the sacrificial system under the law of Moses. The use of five different kinds of sacrificial animals underlines the solemnity of the occasion.

Moses then tells us that Abram “brought all these to Him and cut them in two, and laid each half opposite the other; but he did not cut the birds.41 The birds of prey came down upon the carcasses,42 and Abram drove them away” (15:10-11).43 In Abram’s day, legal and binding agreements were not drafted by attorneys and then signed by the parties involved. Instead, legal agreements were formalized by means of a very graphic covenant ceremony: the dividing of an animal sealed the covenant. The animal was cut in half44 and the two parties would pass between the halves while repeating the terms of the covenant. By doing so, the two parties were stating, “If I fail to fulfill my commitments to this covenant, may I suffer the same fate as this animal” (cf. Jer 34:18-20).

Zach and Jessica
June 10, 2008 at 4:16pm
Donna, Thanks for doing this research! It is very interesting material. On the last question you asnwered, I was wondering more about the little tidbit of information that is just kinda thrown in there. Why, in the midst of everything going on, does he tell us that the birds of prey came? Wouldn't the story have gone just as well without that info? I was just wondering why that part was there. Thanks for commenting. Its been an interesting read :-)
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