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Deb Rockwell
November 09, 2007
Thanks Jack.  I am indeed learning, God is refining me in His fire.  I know that this whole process I am going through right now will lead to growth, and being more like Him.
Valerie Lynn  Williams
November 09, 2007
Deb my love it is Hard and it is Simple you have to let Go and let God. 
I to have a GRAND hole in My forgiving I have to somehow let the CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE POPE  know I forgive them and pray continuously for them.  I supose it will be in the form of a letter I will send or a Catholic confessional I do not quite know maybe both.  I don't think that will make me Catholic I am a Christian no other denominational tag will i take though my current home church is baptist and I have to keep reminding the pastor I am a Christian not a Baptist as I know Christ is not divided.
Deb Rockwell
November 09, 2007
Valerie, thank you...I am working towards a greater goal, and will overcome this with the help of my Lord.  I appreciate your advice, and sharing a piece of yourself.
November 09, 2007

One of the definitions of forgiveness means: "To release one from the penalty of debt"

Perhaps you are waiting on these persons to make things right with you. It may be hard to do but you have to remind yourself that to really forgive them means to not expect anything from them.

Jesus paid our debt. We are forgiven and his forgiveness requires nothing of us.

I have some notes on forgiveness from a class I took not too long ago. I wish I were at home because there are some great lessons contained therein. If you are interested, I could share some of these with you later.

I wrote a blog entitled "Unforgiveness Will Eat Your Lunch". You are welcome to read it.

One thing I do know is that whatever you choose to hold on to is really holding on to you. The things you are holding captive are captivating you.

I feel for you. But I promise that once you are able to find that release immediate peace comes in it's place.

Sorry, this wasn;t exactly much help. Just know that I have been in those shoes and walked therein until the soles wore out. After the blisters healed I decided to decide to forgive.

Jay Price
November 09, 2007
I have sent a private message and am praying for you.
Deb Rockwell
November 09, 2007

Micahel, Thank you for your thoughts.  I would like to see some of the notes you have on forgiveness, whenever you get the time to share them.  I took a look at your blog and found it very informing.  Thank you again for commenting.


Jay, I will respond to your message separately.

Mike McCorquodale
November 09, 2007
Deb, Thanks for your openess, it helps to see that you can forgive others and I think it is important to forgive yourself. I know prople who have been forgiven by others and still have not forgave themselfs.
Joey     R
November 09, 2007
Keep asking, and go to God in prayer. Seek Him in all things, Deb.  Love, Joey
Gordon Greene
November 09, 2007
Forgiveness

The selfishness of another stole my innocence
For the wrong done to me there is no defense

I have a right to feel these things that I feel
I don't know if from this injury I will ever heal

The walls of my hurt are thick and unforgiving
As I barely survive instead of abundant living

Behind bars of bitterness I refuse to expose
A wounded heart that too well of betrayal knows

Unforgiveness is a crime in which the victim pays
Where the guilty walk away and the innocent stays



Forgiveness is a choice that aborts the power of sin
Forgiveness allows the process of healing to begin

Just because we've forgiven we have not forgot
Though the hurt remains the bondage does not

Forgiveness is a key that sets the prisoner free
From the hurt and damage that was done to me

Allowing me to walk freely in spite of what was done
In places where I could not walk now I freely run

Forgiveness is a sacrifice and a gift received
It is only discovered by those who have believed


.....peace.....
Cheryl
November 09, 2007
Deb, my heart goes out to you... I have been there and I know how much it hurts.  I found that once I realized that forgiveness did not mean I condoned the action but that I was forgiving the person, just as Jesus forgave me, then I was able to forgive in my heart and meant it.  As far as people that continue with hurtful things, I believe we still must forgive the person not their actions but, I also believe there are times and circumstances when you must remove yourself from that person.  (Hope that makes sense)  It is painful to be hurt especially by family and close friends but we are not responsible for their actions only our own.  I love you and I will be praying for you.
I thought the poem submitted by apureheart was wonderful.
Voice in DC
November 09, 2007
Deb,

Thanks again for being transparent and putting yourself out in a place where you are so vulnerable. My hat is off to you for that huge step.

It certainly is easiest when people repent and ask our forgiveness. Then, if we don't forgive, it is all in our lap, isn't it?  At least that is the way we look at it. However, to be Godly in forgiveness, we need to forgive BEFORE the person asks. It is indeed a matter of the heart that we choose to forgive even if they don't want it or never ask for it. That, my friend, is the heart of the matter.

If you haven't already done so, sit down with your journal and write a letter to each individual you want to forgive. This will probably be painful, so give yourself plenty of time and have a couple of prayer partners holding you in prayer while you do it.  Write it in as much detail as you can and tell the person you forgive them for what they did, said, or didn't do.  When you are done with writing the first one, then I want you to take a couple of very difficult steps. Go to a quiet space where you can read the letter out loud. Declare your forgiveness. Then rip the pages out of your journal and burn them. Make sure they burn completely. Then declare with your words (out loud) that just as God has blotted out the forgiven sins of others, you are blotting out the sins you have forgiven, too.  You certainly have no power over the other individuals, but their sins have power over you. You know that which is why you are at the place where you want to forgive. Sure the burning thing is symbolic, but it helps put action to your written and spoken words.

I hope this helps. It comes from experience.
Jess Stuart
November 09, 2007

But how do I forgive others?

Here's how God helped me forgive the people who abused me.

I was thinking about the cross one day, and I thought "Jesus is nuts."  I thought of the ways I've been abused: physically; emotionally; spiritually (people misusing the Bible to oppress me); manipulation; etc...  I realized Jesus had gone through all of that, and had experienced more of that than I will ever have to.  Then, and this one was painful, I realized that I had done all of that to him, in one way or another.  I would never had asked to go through the abuse I did, but Jesus came to earth with the goal of being abused by my sin.  He thought setting me free was worth enduring my abuse.

Then I realized somethings else painful.  Jesus died for everyone who abused me, and took the full penalty of their sin as well.  That means their sin is paid for too.  Ouch!

I find it possible to forgive my abusers for two reasons: 1) Jesus had been through more, and still forgave them; 2) every sin against my I have to forgive has already been paid for (if I continue to hold it against them I'm, in a sense, working against God.  That ain't gonna work.). 

November 09, 2007
Hi Deb,

I mentioned earlier that I had some notes on forgiveness from a previous class. I decided to post them as a blog as the entire lesson is rather lenghty. I pray that this lesson will offer some promises and principles that will help you in this area.

Michael

Forgiveness
Sue
November 10, 2007
I think that the Word is clear that we should pray for those who do us wrong.  This begins the forgiveness process.  I think it is also important to ask the Lord to show us how to forgive people.  No one knows about forgiveness more than our forgiving Lord!   
Randy Fry
November 10, 2007
I enjoyed the blog and all the replies.  Thanks to all!
Deb Rockwell
November 10, 2007
Faithrock, forgiving ourselves is important, and for me, it is a daily thing.  I do something stupid every day, and need to cut myself some slack so I am not so hard on myself.  Thank God we get to start over new each day.

Joey, thank you.  I have been keeping Him really close.

apureheart, wow, what a magnificent poem.  I am assuming that you wrote it?  Allowing me to walk freely in spite of what was done  In places where I could not walk now I freely run This is great, and where I am aiming to be...

Cheryl, I have heard that man, even close friends and family, will let you down at one time or another, but God will never let you down.  He is the only one we can really count on, and I take comfort in that.

DC, thank you for your suggestions.  I am going to try it.  I did that a long time ago when my dad died.  I had some things to forgive him for, but didn't make things right before he died.  So one of the things I did was write a letter to him.  That is a great way to forgive someone who is no longer here, but I never thought of doing it with those that are still in our lives (without actually sending it).  Thanks.

Jess, thank you for your comments.  I think the most important thing I got out of your message is

every sin against my I have to forgive has already been paid for (if I continue to hold it against them I'm, in a sense, working against God.  That ain't gonna work.). 

I have to remember that if I don't forgive, then I am working against God.  Like you said, that isn't going to work!

Michael, I went and took a look at your blog, and it was very informative.  Thank you for sharing it!!

Sue, you are right, no one knows how to forgive better than our Lord.

Realtor Randy, glad you enjoyed the blog and replies.  I hope you got something out of it!
Voice in DC
November 10, 2007
Well, Deb, you have a lot of wisdom here...now the hard part...
Denise Meyers
November 11, 2007
Praying for you Deb. I am going thru a struggle with this as well.  Thank you for the blog, it is especially hard though when it is your own flesh and blood that hurts you.  But God will get you through this as I know He will me, and we will be much stronger for it.
Suzanne Taylor
November 11, 2007
Someone once told me that forgiveness just means you are turning the problem over to God for Him to handle.  It's not that you are saying whatever happened to you was OK, just that there is really nothing more you can do about it.  

Beth Moore has a CD on forgiveness.  If you are interested just go to her website and search for "forgiveness."  I think it's only $7 plus shipping.  Sometimes hearing the words of someone who has walked this path can be a great help.   Blessings!
Deb Rockwell
November 12, 2007
DC, I don't know about wisdom...I am learning, but I wouldn't say I am wise yet...

Denise, I am praying for you as well.  We must forgive, and somehow with God's help, we will find a way.

Pastor Tim, I took a look at your blog that you wrote on Forgiveness, and found it very informative.  Thank you for the link.

Soozanne, I am a big fan of Beth Moore, so I will take a look at the cd on forgiveness.  Thank you for sharing it with me.
Deb Rockwell
November 29, 2007
Alissa, thank you so much for your comments.  It is hard to share some of the things I write, but yet at the same time, I think of the people that might benefit from it, and if I feel led by God to write about it, then it must be important to someone.  You are so right, we need to fill up our hearts and minds with Jesus, and not all the junk that has happened in the past.  Amen!