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I've never thought much about the topic of suicide. It was always something that was not in my life... until Sunday.
On Sunday one my friends killed himself.
At first I was just totally shocked.
Then I started feeling sad. Sad that I wouldn't be able to sit and share conversations with him anymore.
After that I thought, what happens to him now?
I've never looked into what God says about suicide... So, here begins my journey. What do you know about this? |
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| November 10, 2007 |
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Kelly;
I only wish I knew what to tell you, myself I feel like I 'cause myself a lot of pain trying to play God in matters like this. God is love and sometimes I think I have to learn to trust him with lifes situations that are beyond my understanding.
Personally I work in a 28 day addictions house and we went through a spell a few months ago where about 5 former residents commited suicide, I found myself second guessing everything. I finally was led to believe that depression is a desease that can be fatal.
When it really comes down to it my own heart will deceive me, I really am clueless to know the heart of another. |
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| November 10, 2007 |
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| Dave is absolutely correct...we can not know the heart of another. Suicide is sin just like any of the other multitude of sins we deal with daily. but God...God is able and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If he was a Christian, he is with the Lord. |
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| November 10, 2007 |
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You are sitting quietly in your home. Suddenly your front door is kicked open and hooded criminals rush in. One holds a gun to your head as others begin to ransack and destroy your home. Laughter and cruel taunts as they take away your most prized possessions and cherished belongings. When they have taken all they then turn their attention to you. Unspeakable acts committed against you as you are helpless to stop or resist.
To your horror the torture does not end. Your tormenters have taken over your home. At will they do with you as they wish, extracting pleasure from your anguish, fear, and pain.
You become invisible to most. No one seems to hear your silent screams. A few seem to notice you but quickly escape to their safe places.
Alone, afraid, without hope of escape or release, unending torment, no one cares, silent prison. This horrible pit of hell is now your life.
Someone loads a gun, someone holds a bottle of pills, someone stands on a ledge. Who pulled the trigger? Who gave you water to drink them down? Who gave you that push?
And who is that laughing?
Kelly, I am so sorry for the hurt you are feeling now and the loss of a friend. I am so sorry that your friend's life was so tortured that death seemed his only escape.
People do not go to hell from dying of cancer or any other disease (including mental illness). Your friend did not quit being a christian because of how he died. The GOD of the living is the GOD of the dead. Your friends battle is over. Though his life ended tragically embrace the memory of who he was and what he was in your life. And thank GOD that he is his own way touched your life.
.....peace..... |
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| November 10, 2007 |
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When Death Visits
When pain is great and tears are near
When death visits one that we hold dear
The questions come and we don't understand
"Is this GOD's will?" or "Was it planned?"
Unanswered questions don't mean GOD doesn't know
Sometimes our tears cause mustard seeds to grow
The Comforter comes to those who mourn
Mending broken hearts that have been torn
Cherish your memories that will always last
Smile as you reflect on the friendship of the past
Thank GOD for this life that made you richer
And then trust GOD with the bigger picture
.....peace..... |
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| November 10, 2007 |
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Thank you for all of your info and thoughts.
I was trying to find some verses on it, but I'm not having much luck.
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| November 10, 2007 |
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| I did a study on suicide when I was working with the youth at my church and it has been several years ago. If my memory serves me correctly, I don't believe you will find scripture on suicide per say... I know as a child I was taught that if you committed suicide you would go to hell because you committed murder... I now know that is not true... I believe from my heart and from my study that suicide is due to a sickness (depression) and you are not capable of making rational decisions. There was a time in my life that I contemplated suicide... I know now the Lord stopped me because I would have been in hell not because of suicide but because I was head saved but not heart saved. The Lord promises us that once saved always saved no one can pluck us out of His hand and I would take that to me not even yourself.. If I am able to find the study and there is scripture on suicide I will email it to you. I am sorry for you lost and will be praying for you and your friend's family. |
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| November 11, 2007 |
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| Suicide is the murder of one of God's children!! Though there are certainly many mental reasons that may cause a person to do so. It is MURDER is all other cases!! |
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| November 11, 2007 |
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| It so saddens me that the devil has decieved many christians into believing that suicide is forgivable if we are "saved".Well 1st let me say to KELLY,I am SO sorry and I KNOW your pain.I coach wrestling and I had a wrestler come to me 1 week before killing himself.I had NO idea he was in pain.He never expressed it and was always happy on the outside.Anyways,that's not the point,the point is I know what you're feeling.I also am NOT trying to get anyone angry,just got to speak the what I feel is the truth.The scripture about no one can pluck you from my hand is true,but WE can let go of God's hand.WE can tell God, "You just aren't strong enough to help me".I know most are saying, but they didn't know what they were doing.But didn't Jesus say that He would NEVER let be tempted by more than we could handle and would ALWAYS make a way out? Why would He say that if it were not true? Didn't He say He was the way,truth,and LIFE! I know I'm making people upset and that is NOT my intention,but as christians, is God stronger, or is satan? The word says we as christians have authority over ALL the power of the enemy! I gotta run, but I wanted to leave you with a site to check out and again, I am truly sorry for your lose! God Bless and love you all! http://www.behindthebadge.net/suicide/index-2.html |
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| November 11, 2007 |
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Dear Kelly,
I am so very sorry for your loss. I am thinking of the scripture Romans 8:38,39. "For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Some may say...that I am taking this and using it to benefit your situation. It says what it says. Personally, I find great comfort in this. If your friend was truly a Christian...then God knew what your friend was dealing with. satan might have won the battle...but he will never win the war!!!!
I wish you comfort in this time of sorrow and confusion.
Blessings,
Forgiven. |
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| November 12, 2007 |
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I am so sorry for your loss. My life too has been touched by suicide, twice. The first time was when the man renting the apartment in the house next door hung himself in the homeowners garage. He left his cell phone on himself so that his fiance would find him. I had that young woman in my home for hours until her father could come and get her. The police came and went, the crisis counselor came and went, and still I waited with Lilly. The devestation on Lilly's life initially was incredible. She called in to work and they initially did not believe her. She screamed and cried and moaned. I held her hand, I cried with her, I prayed and prayed and prayed. When her father walked in my door and I saw the look on his face I cried again. The pain in his face in empathy of his daughter's anguish was clear and forceful. Emotions so raw and deep that day. Lilly grieved and found positive outlets for her grief. She went on to raise money for a support group for the family and friends of suicides.
The second time, one of my best friends from church called me to tell me her husband had hung himself in a friend's kitchen. They were separated and trying to work out their marriage difficulties. Again, it was a world rocking experience. I walked closely with my friend through the next few months. She ran the gamut of emotions. One thing she shared with Lilly was the thougths of "If I had only...". One of the things I have learned from these experiences is that there really was nothing either of these women could have done to prevent the deaths of their loved ones. Both of the men were in desperate mental health crisis and there was nothing that these wonderful ladies could have said or done to change that or make it better.
I believe my friend's husband is in heaven. He was a Christian. He just could not take the mental anguish of his own foolish choices anymore. I do not believe that when someone commits suicide they go to hell. I believe the same for your friend. Again, I am so sorry for your loss.
~Coreena |
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